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"Bag rage" in Land Down Under
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Byker
2018-07-03 17:48:03 UTC
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Australian supermarkets work to prevent "bag rage" as plastics ban takes
effect

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia's biggest supermarket chains are scrambling to
combat "bag rage" as frustrated shoppers vent their anger over the removal
of single-use plastic bags.

One man put his hands around a supermarket worker's throat, the West
Australian newspaper reported, while grocery stores are putting on more
staff to help customers get used to the change.

The removal of single-use plastics is part of a national push to reduce
waste. As of July 1, major retailers in all but two Australian states will
be fined if they supply single-use plastic bags. National supermarket chain
Coles, owned by Wesfarmers, on Sunday removed single-use plastic bags from
its stores, shortly after rival Woolworths banned the bags on June 20.

Consumer complaints forced Woolworths to backflip on charging customers 15
Australian cents (11 U.S. cents) for a reusable plastic bag, with the
retailer now offering them free until July 8.

"They just want a little extra help from us to get through the transition,"
said Claire Peters, Woolworths managing director, in an emailed statement.

After seeing the backlash at its rival, Coles said it would open every
checkout lane on Sunday to reduce queue lengths as staff explain the changes
to customers.

"We are taking a proactive step," a Coles spokesperson said in an emailed
statement.

The union that represents Australian shop assistants has launched a public
awareness campaign on the issue.

"While we understand that some customers may be frustrated by this change,
there is absolutely no excuse for abusive or violent behaviour towards
retail staff," said Gerard Dwyer, national secretary of the Shop,
Distributive and Allied Employees' Association, in a statement on the union
website.

The union conducted a survey earlier this week and of 132 members who
responded, 57 said they suffered abuse due to the plastic bag ban.

More than 8 million tonnes of plastic ends up in the world's oceans each
year, according to United Nations Environment Programme figures.

The U.N. wants to eliminate single-use plastic by 2022 and says more than 60
countries have so far taken steps to ban or reduce plastic consumption.

https://tinyurl.com/y9x9g6xb
Byker
2018-07-03 19:11:13 UTC
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The point is, they're using more plastic NOW than they did before the ban!
Pre ban it was those tissue thin plastic bags, now it's much heavier...
Wanna piss off the store? Have them sack your groceries in a competitor's
reusable bag...
george152
2018-07-03 20:34:37 UTC
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The point is, they're using more plastic NOW than they did before the ban!
Pre ban it was those tissue thin plastic bags, now it's much heavier...
Wanna piss off the store? Have them sack your groceries in a competitor's
reusable bag...
:)
Supermarket I go to lets you put the groceries back in the trundler and
unload them into the car.
No bags whether plastic, paper or reusable were damaged in the evolution

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Annona Muricata
2018-07-03 22:47:34 UTC
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george152
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The point is, they're using more plastic NOW than they did before the ban!
Pre ban it was those tissue thin plastic bags, now it's much
heavier...
Wanna piss off the store? Have them sack your groceries in a
competitor's reusable bag...
:)
Supermarket I go to lets you put the groceries back in the trundler and
unload them into the car.
No bags whether plastic, paper or reusable were damaged in the evolution
Yes, that can easily be done in most larger supermarkets as the shopping
trolleys can be taken out to the car park.
BTW my multi use shopping bags last for years, so they are certainly
reduce the waste load on the environment!
#BeamMeUpScotty
2018-07-03 22:11:48 UTC
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The point is, they're using more plastic NOW than they did before the ban!
Pre ban it was those tissue thin plastic bags, now it's much heavier...
Wanna piss off the store? Have them sack your groceries in a competitor's
reusable bag...
The reusable bags that are made of synthetic are probably rayon or some
other fabric that comes from oil.... ;)
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FMurtz
2018-07-04 13:45:45 UTC
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Australian supermarkets work to prevent "bag rage" as plastics ban takes
effect
SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia's biggest supermarket chains are scrambling to
combat "bag rage" as frustrated shoppers vent their anger over the removal
of single-use plastic bags.
One man put his hands around a supermarket worker's throat, the West
Australian newspaper reported, while grocery stores are putting on more
staff to help customers get used to the change.
The removal of single-use plastics is part of a national push to reduce
waste. As of July 1, major retailers in all but two Australian states will
be fined if they supply single-use plastic bags. National supermarket chain
Coles, owned by Wesfarmers, on Sunday removed single-use plastic bags from
its stores, shortly after rival Woolworths banned the bags on June 20.
Consumer complaints forced Woolworths to backflip on charging customers 15
Australian cents (11 U.S. cents) for a reusable plastic bag, with the
retailer now offering them free until July 8.
"They just want a little extra help from us to get through the transition,"
said Claire Peters, Woolworths managing director, in an emailed statement.
After seeing the backlash at its rival, Coles said it would open every
checkout lane on Sunday to reduce queue lengths as staff explain the changes
to customers.
"We are taking a proactive step," a Coles spokesperson said in an emailed
statement.
The union that represents Australian shop assistants has launched a public
awareness campaign on the issue.
"While we understand that some customers may be frustrated by this change,
there is absolutely no excuse for abusive or violent behaviour towards
retail staff," said Gerard Dwyer, national secretary of the Shop,
Distributive and Allied Employees' Association, in a statement on the union
website.
The union conducted a survey earlier this week and of 132 members who
responded, 57 said they suffered abuse due to the plastic bag ban.
More than 8 million tonnes of plastic ends up in the world's oceans each
year, according to United Nations Environment Programme figures.
The U.N. wants to eliminate single-use plastic by 2022 and says more than 60
countries have so far taken steps to ban or reduce plastic consumption.
https://tinyurl.com/y9x9g6xb
See how many millions Woolies and Coles are expected to make on the
plastic bag rort?
news18
2018-07-05 05:51:13 UTC
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See how many millions Woolies and Coles are expected to make on the
plastic bag rort?
Nothing if you bring your own.
We've been collecting free shopping bags for over a decade and there is
plenty on hand for a few decades.
Daniel60
2018-07-05 09:38:12 UTC
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See how many millions Woolies and Coles are expected to make on the
plastic bag rort?
Nothing if you bring your own.
We've been collecting free shopping bags for over a decade and there is
plenty on hand for a few decades.
Yeah!! I'm doing the same and carry, I'm guessing, about 50 in the boot
of my car ... and have, probably, a couple of hundred more in a kitchen
cupboard.

I thought they were supposed to decompose after some time (months/years)
exposure to sunlight!
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news18
2018-07-05 11:53:38 UTC
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See how many millions Woolies and Coles are expected to make on the
plastic bag rort?
Nothing if you bring your own.
We've been collecting free shopping bags for over a decade and there is
plenty on hand for a few decades.
Yeah!! I'm doing the same and carry, I'm guessing, about 50 in the boot
of my car ... and have, probably, a couple of hundred more in a kitchen
cupboard.
I thought they were supposed to decompose after some time (months/years)
exposure to sunlight!
Oh, you're talking about reusing those singles use bags. I'm talking
about the free shopping bags that newspaper, shops, business, etc have
been giving out.

Interesting one local mall had(has?) a system where you hand in 20 of the
single use for a good polyester reusable. we picked up four of those a
year ago.

Sadly, that claimed decomposition was just plastic degenerating to micro
fibres and just going out of sight/out of mind. They don't really
decompose except in rare infantesimal amounts.

Petzl
2018-07-05 09:57:00 UTC
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See how many millions Woolies and Coles are expected to make on the
plastic bag rort?
Nothing if you bring your own.
We've been collecting free shopping bags for over a decade and there is
plenty on hand for a few decades.
you can sell them as antiques, $5 each?
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