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Is overseas competition really dead? Have we killed them with ourf GST?
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Ördög
2018-06-06 23:10:34 UTC
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Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.

What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!

Why did people buy goods from overseas?

1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.

..... etc...etc...etc...

9999. Not having to pay the GST.

So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead LNP
donor business creeps. I certainly will!
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go bust....good
fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
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Government Shill #2
2018-06-06 23:41:05 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead LNP
donor business creeps. I certainly will!
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go bust....good
fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying here. Who
needs a job eh? We have welfare.

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de chucka
2018-06-06 23:40:49 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead LNP
donor business creeps. I certainly will!
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go bust....good
fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying here. Who
needs a job eh? We have welfare.
They are now on a level playing field.
Annona Muricata
2018-06-07 00:06:34 UTC
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Government Shill #2
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Ördög
Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead
LNP donor business creeps. I certainly will!
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go
bust....good fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying
here. Who needs a job eh? We have welfare.
They are now on a level playing field.
And that helps them how? And are they really? They are their own worst
enemies with their greed.
The majority of reasons for buying from overseas have NOT been eliminated.
Of course, if the LNP banned all overseas retail purchases that might
give boost to the locals but until then they can fuck off big time if
they don't come up with competitive pricing and product range. Maybe even
more generous donations to the LNP by the business sector will achieve
that wonderful outcome one day soon.

I am definitely certain that brick and mortal retailers are lagging
behind the times in their business models as they hope that financially
punitive measures towards OZ consumers could actually save their
financial hide. Good luck to self deluders, like Harvey Norman. BUT not
with my money!
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news18
2018-06-10 01:27:03 UTC
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I am definitely certain that brick and mortal retailers are lagging
behind the times in their business models as they hope that financially
punitive measures towards OZ consumers could actually save their
financial hide.
Too many Ozzie "business" do not have the turn over to continually
improve their service delivery. OTOH, most don't have a clue about
business. I've seen this multiple time whern technically competent people
decide to go into "business" and fail to realise that technicl competency
will swiftly become the least of their worries.

Ördög
2018-06-07 00:21:57 UTC
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Ördög
Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead
LNP donor business creeps. I certainly will!
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go
bust....good fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying
here. Who needs a job eh? We have welfare.
Maybe it is time to meditate on the disastrous fate of OZ manufacturing?
And punish those who actively aided/still aiding its total demise?
Yeah, we sell off our primary goods and natural resources without value
adding anything. And then whinge about the imports killing the locals.

Amazing logic!

And of course just to place the blame about our trade balance misery on
someone completely blameless we give another good kick to idea of welfare.
They are now on a level playing field.
They are not! And it is their own fault.
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de chucka
2018-06-07 00:41:24 UTC
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Government Shill #2
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Ördög
Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead
LNP donor business creeps. I certainly will!
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go
bust....good fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying
here. Who needs a job eh? We have welfare.
Maybe it is time to meditate on the disastrous fate of OZ manufacturing?
Depends on what manufacturing we are talking about, a car industry for
eg won't work without subsidies or tarrifs. OK a very specialised high
end car manufacturer may be viable
Post by Ördög
And punish those who actively aided/still aiding its total demise?
Yeah, we sell off our primary goods and natural resources without value
adding anything.
Dig it up or kill it and export seems to be our way. What is worse is
that a lot of these companies are now overseas owned

And then whinge about the imports killing the locals.
Post by Ördög
Amazing logic!
And of course just to place the blame about our trade balance misery on
someone completely blameless we give another good kick to idea of welfare.
They are now on a level playing field.
They are not! And it is their own fault.
When it comes to GST we are
b***@topmail.co.nz
2018-06-07 11:32:56 UTC
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Post by Government Shill #2
Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying here. Who
needs a job eh? We have welfare.
Well, I bought Falcons and Commodores since I got my P plates, but I do
sometimes buy stuff overseas. Latest example was a SCSI adapter card.
Would have cost $400 from Australian vendor, but I found one overseas
for less than $100 including postage.
Government Shill #2
2018-06-07 21:16:46 UTC
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Yeah. Never mind the Australian jobs you ship overseas by not buying here. Who
needs a job eh? We have welfare.
Well, I bought Falcons and Commodores since I got my P plates, but I do
sometimes buy stuff overseas. Latest example was a SCSI adapter card.
Would have cost $400 from Australian vendor, but I found one overseas
for less than $100 including postage.
Which doesn't help Sharon, the 20 year old shop assistant in your local PC
store. You save $300. She gets the dole. The job of the kid in the Chinese
warehouse is safe. For now.

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FMurtz
2018-06-07 01:07:40 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead LNP
donor business creeps. I certainly will!
I won't when they start tacking $7.00 on to a $2.00 delivered item.
Post by Ördög
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go bust....good
fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
Ördög
2018-06-07 02:08:55 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Brain dead greedy bastard OZ businesses are celebrating big time!
WOW! Putting GTS on all online purchases from overseas killed their
competitors...YAY! Times are looking up.
What retarded morons!
What a grandiose miscalculation!
Why did people buy goods from overseas?
1. Item is not available at any price in OZ.
2. Item is priced often less than half of the local offers.
(In fact some importers are not ashamed to do a 500%+ price mark up
if they can get away with it).
3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
4. Quicker direct delivery if item is not stocked in OZ.
..... etc...etc...etc...
9999. Not having to pay the GST.
So, everyone!
Keep on shopping online from overseas and stuff those local brain dead
LNP donor business creeps. I certainly will!
I won't when they start tacking $7.00 on to a $2.00 delivered item.
Depends on where you are shopping. And of course OZ sellers also charge
delivery and often more that $7.00.
I am actually not too sad about the Amazon ban, as many items just did
not ship to OZ and on tops delivery was quite expensive.
Ebay on the other hand often provides free deliveries from many sellers.
Shopping from the EU is not cheap when they insist on DHL delivery fees.
In such case, buying multiple items at the same time spreads the pain
across those items, so that it is more tolerable.

Having said that, if the item also available from OZ sources and the
purchase price difference is marginal then I would always chose the
Australian retailer.
I am really not ideological about this and for me price and availability
determines where I shop.
But I detest the constant whinging and whining of the OZ business sector:
"The competition is so unfair...blah';
"Our employees are asking for unaffordable pay...blah";
"We hate collective bargaining...blah";
"We hate penalty rates...blah";
"We hate the minimum wage...blah";
"We hate Labor...blah";
"We hate the trade unions...blah";
"We hate the Greens even more...blah";
"Nobody loves us...blah"!

YAWN!
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Post by Ördög
Either businesses learn to offer what the public wants or go
bust....good fucking riddance! Die Harvey Norman, DIE!
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news18
2018-06-10 01:23:32 UTC
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3. Item price is still cheaper even after paying postage costs
from overseas.
You may need to add in costs of re-director(mob buys locally OS and sends
pacxkage on) that service will boom again.
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