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"Portland Police revoke permit, declare riot as protesters clash downtown"
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Byker
2018-07-01 19:06:53 UTC
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It doesn't matter which side starts it. If there's good reason to
believe it could happen again, then revoke the permit. But this wouldn't
have happened if fat Tubby never became potus. He created this kind of
climate.
Really?
Read the article again, look at who wore masks so that they could remain
anonymous, and look at who instigated the violence.
In just about all cases of violence between Trump supporters and the Left,
it is the left who is the instigator.
At least "fat Tubby" delivers what predecessors only promised...
---------------------------------------------------------------
Like it or not, Trump is a man of his word

By Tom Switzer
30 June 2018

Donald Trump continues to break conventions. Whereas typical politicians
fail to honor their election pledges, this US President keeps his word.

The list is long and growing. He pulled the United States out of the
Trans-Pacific Partnership, the Paris climate pact and the Iran nuclear deal.
He will move permanently the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. He has
slashed the US company tax rates and stacked the judiciary with qualified
conservatives. He has put a “travel ban” that restricted entry to America
from several Muslim nations, which the Supreme Court upheld this week. On
July 16, Trump will broker detente with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki.

One can oppose Trump on these issues and much else and still recognize his
positions were advertised in the 2016 preview guide. But hatred of Trump
runs so deep in some circles that many people cannot see straight.

Even Trump’s diplomatic outreach towards Kim Jong-un was flagged on the
campaign trail. In May 2016, he suggested that as president he would welcome
direct negotiations with the North Korean dictator. The response, from left
to right, was hostile. Appeasement, weak, naive, delusional – all these
barbs were hurled at the foreign-policy novice.

And yet, notwithstanding last year’s “fire-and-fury” bombast, Trump has held
a high-level summit with the leader of Hermit Kingdom. Although the jury is
still out, Pyongyang has released US hostages, halted missile and nuclear
tests and signaled a willingness at least to talk about denuclearization. It’s
a far cry from Rocket Man’s provocations a year ago.

Trump’s base is prepared to overlook his character flaws. At one level, this
is difficult to stomach, because the rude-and-crude buffoon has debased
public discourse time and again.

However, in a polarizing culture in which Trump's supporters are denounced
as “deplorables”, many ordinary folk stick with the devil they know. And
Trump’s enemies only play into his hands.

This week, a restaurant owner in the state of Virginia refused service to
Trump’s press secretary, because she did not like her politics. Activists
harassed Trump’s homeland security cabinet secretary at her home, shouting
“no justice, no sleep".

Meanwhile, America is in a bullish mood. Everything that should be up –
growth, confidence – is up. Everything that should be down – jobless rate,
inflation – is down.

The upshot is that Trump’s tax-and-deregulation agenda appears to be
working, assuming his import tariffs – another election promise to
working-class folks displaced by globalization - don’t disrupt the boom.

On foreign policy, it should be noted that for much of 2017 the
establishment had boxed in Trump. The only time he’s received media applause
was when he enforced his predecessor’s red line by bombing Syria. These
days, Trump is untethered and doing pretty much whatever he wants. He
resembles a force of nature.

When John Bolton became national security adviser in April, the conventional
wisdom said Trump would adopt a tough and assertive world role, forever
flexing Uncle Sam’s muscles. In any case, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was
there, helping uphold the mythical “rules-based international order”.

For the most part, Trump is doing it his way, keeping America out of Middle
East quagmires while playing nice with the Kremlin and Kim regime. Although
this resonates with a war-weary American public, it is anathema to
neo-conservative interventionists and liberal hawks. As America’s leading
Russian historian Stephen Cohen tells me: “It seems the Russia-gaters and
Trump-phobes would rather impeach Trump than avert nuclear war.”

Bolton, whom I’ve known for more than two decades, is a skilled and
practiced bureaucratic infighter, but he’s no match for Trump. The
Republican hawk tried to sabotage the Singapore summit with Kim and failed.
He is now playing kissy face with Vladimir Putin.

So, where does Trump’s foreign policy lead? His tariffs will only increase
consumer prices while dampening global growth. But they may also amount to a
negotiating tactic to force the Chinese to open up its economy to US
imports.

The foreign-policy establishment types say Trump will lead to serious
trouble. But these are the same elites who have been wrong about so many
issues in the post-Cold War era (NATO expansion, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
China, GFC) that it is hard to place much faith in their judgments. After
all, it was their failures that help explain why the man they so despise is
now in the White House.

https://tinyurl.com/yd8drk2x
MattB
2018-07-01 20:01:41 UTC
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Post by Byker
It doesn't matter which side starts it. If there's good reason to
believe it could happen again, then revoke the permit. But this wouldn't
have happened if fat Tubby never became potus. He created this kind of
climate.
Really?
Read the article again, look at who wore masks so that they could remain
anonymous, and look at who instigated the violence.
In just about all cases of violence between Trump supporters and the Left,
it is the left who is the instigator.
When the protester said they would be armed the police did their jobs
and kept the Liberal freaks away. Guess they knew if liberals
attacked there would be liberal brains all over the street. That
takes a good shot as a liberal brain is so small.
Post by Byker
At least "fat Tubby" delivers what predecessors only promised...
---------------------------------------------------------------
Like it or not, Trump is a man of his word
By Tom Switzer
30 June 2018
Donald Trump continues to break conventions. Whereas typical politicians
fail to honor their election pledges, this US President keeps his word.
The list is long and growing. He pulled the United States out of the
Trans-Pacific Partnership, the Paris climate pact and the Iran nuclear deal.
He will move permanently the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. He has
slashed the US company tax rates and stacked the judiciary with qualified
conservatives. He has put a “travel ban” that restricted entry to America
from several Muslim nations, which the Supreme Court upheld this week. On
July 16, Trump will broker detente with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki.
One can oppose Trump on these issues and much else and still recognize his
positions were advertised in the 2016 preview guide. But hatred of Trump
runs so deep in some circles that many people cannot see straight.
Even Trump’s diplomatic outreach towards Kim Jong-un was flagged on the
campaign trail. In May 2016, he suggested that as president he would welcome
direct negotiations with the North Korean dictator. The response, from left
to right, was hostile. Appeasement, weak, naive, delusional – all these
barbs were hurled at the foreign-policy novice.
And yet, notwithstanding last year’s “fire-and-fury” bombast, Trump has held
a high-level summit with the leader of Hermit Kingdom. Although the jury is
still out, Pyongyang has released US hostages, halted missile and nuclear
tests and signaled a willingness at least to talk about denuclearization. It’s
a far cry from Rocket Man’s provocations a year ago.
Trump’s base is prepared to overlook his character flaws. At one level, this
is difficult to stomach, because the rude-and-crude buffoon has debased
public discourse time and again.
However, in a polarizing culture in which Trump's supporters are denounced
as “deplorables”, many ordinary folk stick with the devil they know. And
Trump’s enemies only play into his hands.
This week, a restaurant owner in the state of Virginia refused service to
Trump’s press secretary, because she did not like her politics. Activists
harassed Trump’s homeland security cabinet secretary at her home, shouting
“no justice, no sleep".
Meanwhile, America is in a bullish mood. Everything that should be up –
growth, confidence – is up. Everything that should be down – jobless rate,
inflation – is down.
The upshot is that Trump’s tax-and-deregulation agenda appears to be
working, assuming his import tariffs – another election promise to
working-class folks displaced by globalization - don’t disrupt the boom.
On foreign policy, it should be noted that for much of 2017 the
establishment had boxed in Trump. The only time he’s received media applause
was when he enforced his predecessor’s red line by bombing Syria. These
days, Trump is untethered and doing pretty much whatever he wants. He
resembles a force of nature.
When John Bolton became national security adviser in April, the conventional
wisdom said Trump would adopt a tough and assertive world role, forever
flexing Uncle Sam’s muscles. In any case, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was
there, helping uphold the mythical “rules-based international order”.
For the most part, Trump is doing it his way, keeping America out of Middle
East quagmires while playing nice with the Kremlin and Kim regime. Although
this resonates with a war-weary American public, it is anathema to
neo-conservative interventionists and liberal hawks. As America’s leading
Russian historian Stephen Cohen tells me: “It seems the Russia-gaters and
Trump-phobes would rather impeach Trump than avert nuclear war.”
Bolton, whom I’ve known for more than two decades, is a skilled and
practiced bureaucratic infighter, but he’s no match for Trump. The
Republican hawk tried to sabotage the Singapore summit with Kim and failed.
He is now playing kissy face with Vladimir Putin.
So, where does Trump’s foreign policy lead? His tariffs will only increase
consumer prices while dampening global growth. But they may also amount to a
negotiating tactic to force the Chinese to open up its economy to US
imports.
The foreign-policy establishment types say Trump will lead to serious
trouble. But these are the same elites who have been wrong about so many
issues in the post-Cold War era (NATO expansion, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
China, GFC) that it is hard to place much faith in their judgments. After
all, it was their failures that help explain why the man they so despise is
now in the White House.
https://tinyurl.com/yd8drk2x
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