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Ördög
2018-05-02 02:28:55 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.

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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living
in remote regions
Report finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into
an ongoing job"


'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan

Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people living
in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist
Related Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest
Related Story: Investigation into 'national shame' work-for-the-dole
scheme underway
Related Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson

The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with fines
under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with claims it
is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.

More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled in
the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released by
the Federal Government.

Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must complete
jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in remote New
South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia and the
Northern Territory.

Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.

About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in regions
where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're required to
work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.

To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000 people
in major cities and regional areas.

In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.

In a letter obtained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.

"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food for
days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security system
entirely," the letter said.

"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress and
leading to a loss of social cohesion."

But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
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Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
2018-05-02 02:38:54 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
Comrade Ordog doesn't want people to be able to make choices about what to spend their money on.
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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living
in remote regions
Report finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into
an ongoing job"
I bet nobody was fined who made themselves ready and available to work, something those of us whose taxes pay for the handouts have to do at least 5 days a week, week in week out.
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Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
Sounds very fair.
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About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in regions
where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're required to
work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
Gosh, 3 days of work per week, must be very taxing for them.
Post by Ördög
In a letter obtained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
What they need to learn is the ability to follow rules. You have to have rules if you're going to teach people that rules need to be followed.
This is how we have order in society.
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"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food for
days at a time,
If individuals choose to avoid doing their paid rostered work, why on earth do they imagine they should still be paid?
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and some are disengaging from the social security system
entirely," the letter said.
Hooray!
Post by Ördög
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress and
leading to a loss of social cohesion."
Well then they should work instead of choosing to lose their income.
Is there some reason this needs to be explained to anybody?
Fran
2018-05-02 04:02:59 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living
in remote regions
Report finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into
an ongoing job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people living
in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist
Related Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest
Related Story: Investigation into 'national shame' work-for-the-dole
scheme underway
Related Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with fines
under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with claims it
is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled in
the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released by
the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must complete
jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in remote New
South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia and the
Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in regions
where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're required to
work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000 people
in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food for
days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security system
entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress and
leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
news18
2018-05-02 04:16:14 UTC
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Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
Is GovCo==standard operating proceeedure==massive cockup.
Ördög
2018-05-02 05:15:56 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).

Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
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Pelican
2018-05-02 05:31:55 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
The scheme applies essentially (not exclusively) to those in aboriginal
communities where employment opportunities are very few and far between.
Applying the usual rules that apply in the mainstream to people in
those areas would mean than no-one would get paid anything, so this
scheme attempts to give minimal training to people with very low
employment opportunities. That training includes the discipline of
actually turning up. The great majority of these people have never had
a job, and have little prospect of ever getting a job.

They don't like it. They want sit-down money for nothing, so they can
spend it on alcohol, tobacco or other "substances".
Fran
2018-05-02 06:58:58 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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<http://tinyurl.com/yder9sw8>
Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that. Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
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2018-05-02 07:04:22 UTC
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that. Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that. Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
The pub won't let them in, although the bottlo is always glad to take their money in exchange for more booze.
Petzl
2018-05-02 07:39:09 UTC
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I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
The pub won't let them in, although the bottlo is always glad to take their money in exchange for more booze.
Good idea to send them somewhere for a month without booze. |Must be a
bridge need building somewhere in the wops?
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Petzl
Try saying a simple Grace for meals.
Dear Lord, thank you for this food, but most of all Lord thank you for making America great again.
Please Lord, help Pauline Hanson get in. Australia needs to be great again also!
Through Christ our Lord we pray.

Amen..
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2018-05-02 07:49:53 UTC
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Good idea to send them somewhere for a month without booze. |Must be a
bridge need building somewhere in the wops?
Why not start with you? A comfy padded cell in an asylum with strict
control ... till you dry out.
Your massively alcohol abused body would thank them for it.

And why not take Lions fart, that plonked retard with you too. It seems
he could benefit from some cold turkey treatment, too!
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
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<http://tinyurl.com/yder9sw8>
Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that. Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
The pub won't let them in, although the bottlo is always glad to take their money in exchange for more booze.
Not a lot a pubs in aboriginal communities.
Fran
2018-05-02 08:57:13 UTC
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Post by SG1
Post by Ördög
Post by Fran
Post by Ördög
While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=%
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<http://tinyurl.com/yder9sw8>
   Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
   enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
   participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
   finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an
ongoing
   job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that.  Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
yep. But as you'd know, it's not easy to give or find meaningful work
out in the sticks.
SG1
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Post by Ördög
Post by Fran
Post by Ördög
While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=%
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Post by Ördög
%7c%7c8935&utm_content=ABCNewsmail_topstories_articlelink>
<http://tinyurl.com/yder9sw8>
Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that. Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
yep. But as you'd know, it's not easy to give or find meaningful work out
in the sticks.
Yes I have "Lived" in some places that are suboptimal.
Fran
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Post by SG1
Post by Ördög
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While Gina Reinhardt must worrying sick about the reduced size of her
daily 'caviar and champagne' breakfast due to having to pay any tax at
all there are some in OZ who'd be glad to be to afford buying breakfast
at all every second day.
report"
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/work-for-the-dole-cdp-scheme-
costly-failure-harming-people/9714522?
utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=%
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Post by Ördög
%7c%7c8935&utm_content=ABCNewsmail_topstories_articlelink>
<http://tinyurl.com/yder9sw8>
Since 2015, more than 340,000 fines have been issued to people
enrolled in the Community Development Program About 80 per cent of
participants are Indigenous people living in remote regions Report
finds scheme has helped fewer than one in five people into an ongoing
job"
'By Indigenous affairs correspondent Bridget Brennan
Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion speaks to RJCP workers
Photo: About 80 per cent of CDP participants are Indigenous people
living in remote regions. (ABC News: Felicity James, file photo)
Related Story: Raising the dole trumps budget repair: economist Related
Story: Work-for-the-dole scheme largely failing Indigenous
participants, figures suggest Related Story: Investigation into
Work-for-the-dole scheme a 'national shame': Dodson
The Federal Government has been urged to stop slugging people with
fines under its controversial remote Work for the Dole program with
claims it is "blatant discrimination" and has caused serious harm.
More than 340,000 fines have been issued since 2015 to people enrolled
in the Community Development Program (CDP), according to data released
by the Federal Government.
Roughly 33,000 people are registered with the program. They must
complete jobs and activities to receive their Newstart allowance in
remote New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia
and the Northern Territory.
Fines are issued for non-attendance or refusing suitable work.
About 80 per cent of participants are Indigenous people living in
regions where unemployment can be as high as 51 per cent. They're
required to work 25 hours per week, for about $11.20 an hour.
To compare, there were 47,729 fines issued in the three months to
September 2017 under the Jobstart program — which includes 760,000
people in major cities and regional areas.
In the same quarter, 54,758 fines were issued under CDP.
In a letter obtpayained by the ABC, the Australian Council of Social
Services (ACOSS) and a coalition of key Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander organisations requested the Government suspend eight-week
penalties applied to people who don't comply with CDP rules.
"People [including reports of pregnant women] are going without food
for days at a time, and some are disengaging from the social security
system entirely," the letter said.
"The loss of income is harming people's health, causing deep distress
and leading to a loss of social cohesion."
But Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion accused ACOSS and the
Aboriginal organisations of fabricating the claims and said they were a
"blatant misrepresentation".
Is this the 3rd or the 4th iteration of these work for the dole schemes
under governments of of different colours? Every one of them has been a
bloody disaster TMWOT.
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed (assuming
that they are all just low life scum too lazy to work hard) no real
progress can be made.
Naturally work availability should be realistic from the employees' point
of view too and should not mean jobs going for 50 cents/hour rate of pay
rationed at 15 minutes allotments demanding 100 km travel from the home
of the employee under (subhuman) subcontractor arrangements (i.e. w/o job
security, paid leave, superannuation and OHS protection).
Having said that I am not against any properly designed mutual obligation
work for the Dole scheme. But so far I haven't seen any decent ones on
offer.
Can't disagree with any of that. Not that I'm so sure the job
availability aspect is something that has a solution.
I always think of these schemes as lets get them off the street and out of
the pub for a few hours.
yep.  But as you'd know, it's not easy to give or find meaningful work
out in the sticks.
Yes I have "Lived" in some places that are suboptimal.
LOL. Nice understatement :-))
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I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed
You are being ludicrous. Asking somebody to work in exchange for payment is not "punishment".

The *real* punishment is the action of successive governments in spending decades training whole communities to live a lifestyle of inactivity and substance abuse powered by sit-down money.
*This* is the precise cause of the entrenched and growing dysfunction in *some* aboriginal communities - those with weak leadership.
Petzl
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Post by Ördög
I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed
You are being ludicrous. Asking somebody to work in exchange for payment is not "punishment".
The *real* punishment is the action of successive governments in spending decades training whole communities to live a lifestyle of inactivity and substance abuse powered by sit-down money.
*This* is the precise cause of the entrenched and growing dysfunction in *some* aboriginal communities - those with weak leadership.
Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!

Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-scholarships-to-african-students/news-story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5
The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19, which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a
wider $320 million program.

Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook
page on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000
African students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
--
Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
Ördög
2018-05-02 08:57:10 UTC
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Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
You are being ludicrous. Asking somebody to work in exchange for payment
is not "punishment".
That was as meaningless moronic statement go completely missing the point
I was making as a moronic statements can be!
Post by Petzl
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
The *real* punishment is the action of successive governments in
spending decades training whole communities to live a lifestyle of
inactivity and substance abuse powered by sit-down money.
*This* is the precise cause of the entrenched and growing dysfunction in
*some* aboriginal communities - those with weak leadership.
Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
So its Goon-bag time again, eh Petz dear?

But at least you have given up on pretending to be an Abo ...
Post by Petzl
Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-
scholarships-to-african-students/news-
story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
Post by Petzl
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5 The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19,
which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a wider
$320 million program.
Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook page
on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000 African
students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
... and given up on pretending to be a true Xtian.

Well that is somethin'!
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Fran
2018-05-02 09:00:08 UTC
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Post by Petzl
Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-scholarships-to-african-students/news-story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5
The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19, which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a
wider $320 million program.
Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook
page on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000
African students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
Petzl
2018-05-02 09:47:40 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Petzl
Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
Post by Fran
Post by Petzl
Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-scholarships-to-african-students/news-story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5
The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19, which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a
wider $320 million program.
Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook
page on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000
African students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
--
Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
Fran
2018-05-02 11:28:28 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:00:08 +1000, Fran
Post by Fran
Post by Petzl
Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
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Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-scholarships-to-african-students/news-story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5
The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19, which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a
wider $320 million program.
Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook
page on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000
African students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw

Confirmed infections are up about 400 per cent in four years. Last
year, they rose again, with another 275 cases recorded, according to
government figures.
“It’s a pretty frightening explosion in case numbers,” says Professor
O’Brien, who sees many of the cases while working at Barwon Health in
Geelong.
“It’s an exploding epidemic. The time to wait is gone. We need to take
action.”
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Post by Petzl
Post by Fran
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Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-scholarships-to-african-students/news-story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5
The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19, which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a
wider $320 million program.
Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook
page on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000
African students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
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ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for China,Islam, Sharia.
and against Christian morals, religious freedom!
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(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.

You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
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(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw

It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
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Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
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2018-05-03 07:48:57 UTC
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(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
Bullshit! Are those possums which are thought to be spreading it
Moslems??????
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
Bullshit! Are those possums which are thought to be spreading it
Moslems??????
Farting African Moslems more like it!
https://www.ruralaustraliansforrefugees.org.au/rar-groups/victoria/mornington-peninsula-human-rights-group/
http://tinyurl.com/y8caa8jx
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Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
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2018-05-03 09:11:25 UTC
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Post by Fran
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
Bullshit! Are those possums which are thought to be spreading it
Moslems??????
Farting African Moslems more like it!
https://www.ruralaustraliansforrefugees.org.au/rar-groups/victoria/mornington-peninsula-human-rights-group/
You really are a very, very strange person.
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2018-05-05 00:00:01 UTC
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(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
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Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Still spreading and in greater numbers, The picture shows where
disease came from!
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Victoria is facing a worsening epidemic "defined by cases rapidly
increasing in number, becoming more severe in nature, and occurring in
new geographic areas.
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Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
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2018-05-05 06:11:58 UTC
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Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Post by Petzl
Still spreading and in greater numbers, The picture shows where
disease came from!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZV1TUVAAA8VCD.jpg
Victoria is facing a worsening epidemic "defined by cases rapidly
increasing in number, becoming more severe in nature, and occurring in
new geographic areas.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Nope

and Melbourne is still under Islamic attack
From a Mate in Brisbane arrived back yesterday.

"Left our hotel room in Melbourne at 4.30am to catch our flight back
to Brisbane, noisy blacks outside the hotel making a noise. Apparently
they were evicted, drove down the road to face more of them shouting
at each other.....welcome to the end of this beautiful country!"
Post by de chucka
Post by Petzl
Still spreading and in greater numbers, The picture shows where
disease came from!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZV1TUVAAA8VCD.jpg
Victoria is facing a worsening epidemic "defined by cases rapidly
increasing in number, becoming more severe in nature, and occurring in
new geographic areas.
--
Petzl

You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not being open-minded... You're being conquered."
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Italian immigration was an advance point for Australia, followed by Greek immigration, then Asian all provided positive growth, benefits.


The failure has and is Moslem immigration where over 30 years they are planted in West Sydney it is a proven disaster which is forbidden to be spoken about.

Reality is
This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth!

Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth they call taqiyya kitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
Facts are:-
This Trojan horse invasion by Moslems was invented by Mohammed when he and his marauding followers fled Mecca in AD 622 to Yathrib now called Medina. Claiming “refugee status”
Medina welcomed them as “our” government does today!

ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t do!
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html

Mohammad himself was once a (claimed) refugee taken in by the Jewish run city of Medina, then called Yathrib (fleeing Mecca AD 622).
https://www.britannica.com/event/Hijrah-Islam
Within five years, Mohammed (joining with other invading “marauding refugees”) had driven out, executed, or enslaved every Jew living in Medina
https://www.britannica.com/place/Medina-Saudi-Arabia

For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the worlds “refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created!

Still the same today!

This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY?
Moslems and Islam are of course synonymous with terror!
It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every politician is obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring in. If they had done even a little bit of study they would have found a bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?

Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old still used today.
The success of thier blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their Calender year begining AD 622

"Our" repomse is to declare a war on the Islamic TACTIC of "terror"?
1: You can’t declare war on a tactic – TERROR.
2: You can’t win if the “Good Guys” your soldiers are dying for are just a different type of bad guy.
3: You can’t win if you promote the problem – ISLAM.
4: And you can’t win overseas if you are losing at home

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2018-05-05 11:46:09 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Nope
and Melbourne is still under Islamic attack
From a Mate in Brisbane arrived back yesterday.
"Left our hotel room in Melbourne at 4.30am to catch our flight back
to Brisbane, noisy blacks outside the hotel making a noise. Apparently
they were evicted, drove down the road to face more of them shouting
at each other.....welcome to the end of this beautiful country!"
So even your friends are racist bogans.
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2018-05-05 18:53:57 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Nope
and Melbourne is still under Islamic attack
From a Mate in Brisbane arrived back yesterday.
"Left our hotel room in Melbourne at 4.30am to catch our flight back
to Brisbane, noisy blacks outside the hotel making a noise. Apparently
they were evicted, drove down the road to face more of them shouting
at each other.....welcome to the end of this beautiful country!"
So even your friends are racist bogans.
Another racist black aboriginal.
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Petzl
https://www.liverdoctor.com/you-should-always-put-the-toilet-lid-down-when-you-flush/
You should always put the toilet lid down when you flush
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2018-05-06 01:26:28 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Nope
and Melbourne is still under Islamic attack
From a Mate in Brisbane arrived back yesterday.
"Left our hotel room in Melbourne at 4.30am to catch our flight back
to Brisbane, noisy blacks outside the hotel making a noise. Apparently
they were evicted, drove down the road to face more of them shouting
at each other.....welcome to the end of this beautiful country!"
So even your friends are racist bogans.
Another racist black aboriginal.
Even coconuts can be bogans.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word "haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Nope
and Melbourne is still under Islamic attack
From a Mate in Brisbane arrived back yesterday.
"Left our hotel room in Melbourne at 4.30am to catch our flight back
to Brisbane, noisy blacks outside the hotel making a noise. Apparently
they were evicted, drove down the road to face more of them shouting
at each other.....welcome to the end of this beautiful country!"
So even your friends are racist bogans.
Another racist black aboriginal.
Even coconuts can be bogans.
Nothing like Moslem ones.
That mate lives in outback he and others went to Melbourne for
Aboriginal entertainment paid for by Victoria's government
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Authorities are still establishing a motive for the deadly attack.

....and shock me it's another f*cking Moslem.
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2018-05-06 03:23:10 UTC
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Aboriginal entertainment paid for by Victoria's government
That is no guarantee against bigotry, racism and boganism which know no
limits.
Hey, there are even some indigenous people who are in bed with the LNP,
fuck the interest of their communities!
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Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with idiots like Petz.
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
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2018-05-06 00:05:59 UTC
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Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
Well, they would have been wrong then, too, because it is an
infection related to leprosy, that is not leprosy.
You're doing the same thing as the educationally-challenged
subnormals who use the word "barter" in place of the correct word
"haggle".
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
It is still being caused by Turnbull Government spending $320 million
a year to bring in 4,000 Moslem Africans with a infectious incurable
Leprosy like disease!
IT IS FUCKING CURABE
Not having much success with the variety Malcolm imported!
Of course they are
Nope
and Melbourne is still under Islamic attack
From a Mate in Brisbane arrived back yesterday.
"Left our hotel room in Melbourne at 4.30am to catch our flight back
to Brisbane, noisy blacks outside the hotel making a noise. Apparently
they were evicted, drove down the road to face more of them shouting
at each other.....welcome to the end of this beautiful country!"
So even your friends are racist bogans.
They would not have been locally bred "blacks" as that is what this thread
is about. CDEP is not for anyone except those living in the outback, or
nearby
places. Not many places nearby in the outback though.
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
The bacteria aren't religious, nor is Islam the only religion in Africa,
nor is the religious denomination a selection criteria for residency
permit issued to Africans.

Next brain-farts!
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And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
No it isn't!
Next brain-farts!
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(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been called
Leprosy)
Garbage.

Already 50 years ago the pathogen causing leprosy was correctly
identified as Mycobacterium leprae. And so was that other bacteria that
causes the buruli ulcer.
They are two distinctly different species you fucking moron!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy
"Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease (HD), is a long-term infection
by the bacterium Mycobacterium leprae or Mycobacterium lepromatosis.
Initially, infections are without symptoms and typically remain this way
for 5 to 20 years."

Why do you spread alarmist fake news about things you absolutely do not
understand.
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-
exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
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http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
You have conveniently skipped quoting the relevant sections identifying
the actual disease causing bacteria properly. Trying to be clever, aren't
you, Petz dear? But no chance of success; not with me!

So here we go:

"The bacterium that causes them, Mycobacterium ulcerans, is now running
wild on the Mornington Peninsula.

"Mycobacterium ulcerans is a tropical bacteria that is largely confined
to countries in west and central Africa, including Benin, Cameroon and
Ghana."

Which btw aren't major Islamic countries, you fucking idiot.

"When it gets into the body, it begins secreting a toxin that causes
tissue death."

And that is not what happens in Leprosy.

" First noted in Victoria in the 1930s, the problem escalated in 2012,
when the infection jumped from the Bellarine Peninsula onto the
Mornington Peninsula.

"The Department of Health and Human Services said experts were analysing
possum faeces from several locations in the Mornington Peninsula in the
hope of isolating the bacterium, while other researchers are working to
crack its genetic code."

So the disease is not spread by Muslims you retarded mongrel.

BTW, you raving Islamophobic loon:

Ghana: Major religion is Xtianity
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ghana>
Cameroon: Major religion is Xtianity
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Cameroon>
Benin: Largest religious factions are Xtian
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Benin>
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Post by Petzl
(it is a variant of Leprosy and 50 or so years ago would of been
called Leprosy)
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/flesh-eating-ulcer-outbreak-exploding-epidemic-in-victoria-20180413-p4z9ig.html
http://tinyurl.com/yc6a3pbw
Confirmed infections are up about 400 per cent in four years. Last
year, they rose again, with another 275 cases recorded, according to
government figures.
“It’s a pretty frightening explosion in case numbers,” says Professor
O’Brien, who sees many of the cases while working at Barwon Health in
Geelong.
“It’s an exploding epidemic. The time to wait is gone. We need to take
action.”
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Bishop confirms Australia is spending $320 million a year on 4,000
scholarships for international students not, as it previously claimed,
10,000 African students.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hanson-attacks-federal-scholarships-to-african-students/news-story/410aa5e5f657b7a4f763bdcf3e169e18
http://tinyurl.com/y95owdb5
The Australia Awards Scholarships 2018-19, which opened in April,
allocate international scholarships, short courses and fellowships to
students across more than 40 African countries, and are part of a
wider $320 million program.
Liberal Senator Lucy Gichuhi posted the opportunity on her Facebook
page on Monday, and said the program would “enable up to 10,000
African students the opportunity to study in Australia”.
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Post by Petzl
Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
Now it is a epidemic bought in by Julie Bishop and Malcolm Turnbull
bringing in Moslem "students" 4000 a year
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
--
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With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
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Post by Fran
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
Post by Petzl
Now it is a epidemic bought in by Julie Bishop and Malcolm Turnbull
bringing in Moslem "students" 4000 a year
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
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2018-05-03 09:30:12 UTC
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way,
you're wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared
to the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still
wrong about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to
Palm Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
He can't! Most of the time he is so pissed that he does not even know
what is up and what is down! And during the few moments of soberness he
experiences occasionally he is letting himself to be brainwashes by
Xenophobic and Islamphobic hate-mongers like Pauline Hanson and Fred
Niles.

As you have well stated earlier, he is a lost cause.
For his own good and the good of all around him he should be
institutionalised w/o Internet access.
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?

Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Post by Fran
Post by Petzl
Now it is a epidemic bought in by Julie Bishop and Malcolm Turnbull
bringing in Moslem "students" 4000 a year
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
--
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In Arabic text 'bismillah' (in the name of Allah) is the same as the Mark of the Beast, as
Jesus Christ Described to his Apostle John, who wrote this mark as a
the Greek number for "666" John the Apostle wrote about it in the
book of Revelation.

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Bismillah is often worn on the foreheads and or right arm as bands by
ISIS as well as on their flag.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/13-16.htm
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and
slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,
so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is
the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Halal is when latinised is the actual name for Lucifer
Hebrew bible (old testament) name for Lucifer Halal; hawlal'; heylel
or hay-lale' "Isaiah 14:12"
http://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-12.htm
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Petz
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way,
you're wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is
more important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when
compared to the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you
are still wrong about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or
visitations by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if
you'd ever been there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area
from Newport to Palm Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?
It is no theory...its is a fact that OZ mosquitos ain't religious...none
of them are Muslims.

Tell me why do you try so hard to prove Usenet your limitless idiocy?
The disease in question is NOT malaria and IS NOT spread by mosquitos.
Post by Petzl
Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Your fundamentalist religious hate against other religions fully
compliments the very same fundamentalist religious extremist hate of
dangerous loons like members of ISIS. You all should just go on and
exterminate each other till the last loon standing and give the planet a
break. Indeed you and your ilk creates Hell on Earth.
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Petz
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Fran
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Petz
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Fran
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Petz
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Fran
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Petz
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way,
you're wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is
more important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when
compared to the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you
are still wrong about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or
visitations by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if
you'd ever been there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area
from Newport to Palm Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?
It is no theory...its is a fact that OZ mosquitos ain't religious...none
of them are Muslims.
Tell me why do you try so hard to prove Usenet your limitless idiocy?
The disease in question is NOT malaria and IS NOT spread by mosquitos.
Post by Petzl
Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Your fundamentalist religious hate against other religions fully
compliments the very same fundamentalist religious extremist hate of
dangerous loons like members of ISIS. You all should just go on and
exterminate each other till the last loon standing and give the planet a
break. Indeed you and your ilk creates Hell on Earth.
Take a holiday in the Morniton Peninsula then
Takes maybe a year for you and family to break out in boils
--
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With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
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Fran
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Fran
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Fran
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Petz
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way,
you're wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is
more important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when
compared to the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And
you are still wrong about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been
in Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or
visitations by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if
you'd ever been there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area
from Newport to Palm Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some
suggestion it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip
on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?
It is no theory...its is a fact that OZ mosquitos ain't religious...none
of them are Muslims.
Tell me why do you try so hard to prove Usenet your limitless idiocy?
The disease in question is NOT malaria and IS NOT spread by mosquitos.
Post by Petzl
Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Your fundamentalist religious hate against other religions fully
compliments the very same fundamentalist religious extremist hate of
dangerous loons like members of ISIS. You all should just go on and
exterminate each other till the last loon standing and give the planet a
break. Indeed you and your ilk creates Hell on Earth.
Take a holiday in the Morniton Peninsula then Takes maybe a year for you
and family to break out in boils
You still have no idea about pathology and the spread of infectious
diseases. And you be must through by now at least three of your daily
goon-bags ....
And on tops you are a fake Xtian.
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Post by Fran
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?
Read your cite and you might find out.
Post by Petzl
Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Hmmm. I'd heard that it was allowing Poms in.
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Now it is a epidemic bought in by Julie Bishop and Malcolm Turnbull
bringing in Moslem "students" 4000 a year
https://www.leprosy.org/fighting-a-flesh-eating-disease/
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?
Read your cite and you might find out.
Post by Petzl
Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Hmmm. I'd heard that it was allowing Poms in.
That's an odd thing to say.
Where did our system of social democracy come from?
Do you have something against socialised healthcare and education and universal suffrage?

Here a clue:
Net emitters of emigrants: muslim countries. All of them.
Target for all those migrants: Social democracies such as England and its cultural offspring.

Why would that be?
Because Islam is hell and English culture is an oasis of civilisation.
(An Oasis that shrinks with every year of excessive immigration from sh!thole countries.)
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
That many millions spet in Foreign Aid, is chickenfeed when compared to
the billions spent on Aboriginals each year. And you are still wrong
about the leprosy.
Bringing in 4,000 Moslem Africans to Victoria a year!
So?
Post by Petzl
And this epidemic you think is not connected ?
Well obviously not! I keep telling you, the buruli ulcer has been in
Australia since the 1930s!!!!! AND as I've told you before, the
Mornington Peninsula is hardly a hotspot for settlement or visitations
by recently arrived Africans. You would know that if you'd ever been
there. For a Sydney comparison, Think of the area from Newport to Palm
Beach.
Small outbreaks 1 or 2 cases bought in from Africa!
WRONG! Read your own cites. This bug has been here since the 1930s.
The reason for the increase is unknown BUT there is NO suggestion that
it's from increased Moslem or African intakes. There IS some suggestion
it's from possum poop. You really should try to get a grip on reality.
What happened to the mosquito theory?
Read your cite and you might find out.
Post by Petzl
Allowing Moslems into Australia has opened the gates of hell!
Hmmm. I'd heard that it was allowing Poms in.
That's an odd thing to say.
Where did our system of social democracy come from?
Do you have something against socialised healthcare and education and universal suffrage?
Net emitters of emigrants: muslim countries. All of them.
Target for all those migrants: Social democracies such as England and its cultural offspring.
Why would that be?
Because Islam is hell and English culture is an oasis of civilisation.
(An Oasis that shrinks with every year of excessive immigration from sh!thole countries.)
You realize it was not me that said that, the message claimed to be
you?
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Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
Ördög
2018-05-02 11:41:10 UTC
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Fuck the Abo's spend money on bringing Leprosy epidemic to Victoria!
Are you referring to Aboriginals or to Africans? Either way, you're
wrong about leprosy. But your being wrong is not new.
Spending $320 million a year to bring Africans with leprosy is more
important than Abo's to Turnbull and Bishop
You make certified card carrying morons look like intellectual geniuses
in comparison.

Your alcohol fuelled and endlessly regurgitated verbal vomit xenophobic
and Islamophobic hate propaganda lies seem to reach no limits no matter
how many times your have been publicly proven to be a malicious liar and
a raving loon previously.

Fact: You know fucking nothing about the disease leprosy, its pathology
and its epidemiology.
So stop lying! And stop spewing manufactured fake news nonsense into
aus.politics.
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2018-05-02 07:57:48 UTC
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I firmly believe that until we address the work availability issues no
matter how much and how hard we try to punish the unemployed
You are being ludicrous. Asking somebody to work in exchange for payment is not "punishment".
The *real* punishment is the action of successive governments in spending decades training whole communities to live a lifestyle of inactivity and substance abuse powered by sit-down money.
*This* is the precise cause of the entrenched and growing dysfunction in *some* aboriginal communities - those with weak leadership.
Name one aboriginal community in each State/Territory that is not
dysfunctional.
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