Discussion:
I don't want to be Asian. I'm White.
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The Enlightenment
2003-10-21 12:55:16 UTC
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I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.

We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
and circumnavigated continents and mapped them so that we could
relably return, invented polyphonic music, wrote great poetry and
novels, invented laws that liberate men democratically.

Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.

May great suffering deservedly befall those who seek to have us perish
or become small and disempowered like the Kurds by sleep walking us to
ethnocide and reviling us with defamations.
damnfine
2003-10-21 12:53:12 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person and not a pathetic,
insecure and inadequate coward.


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"To disbelieve in the gods is at the same time to
affirm life, purpose, and beauty." - Emma Goldman
Tourette's
2003-10-21 14:43:03 UTC
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Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person and not a pathetic,
insecure and inadequate coward.
Hear hear.

---
Tourette's
The Enlightenment
2003-10-22 04:54:19 UTC
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Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person
Acting like a "courageous person" according to you involves being
sleep walked without protest into ethnic suicide while watching my
children, my niece and nepwhew and other menbers of my race and
culture being villfied, defamed, demoralised and minortised like
Kurds; unable to even determin how and what our children are to be
caught.

Does courage involve letting us be ripped of 7.5 billion dollars in
taxes to support the diversitycrat vampire industry?

According to you then courage involves overfilling the cities so that
traffic makes life hell when travelling to work. It involves putting
so may people in the country we're running out of money and places to
build damns to find water.

Does it involve letting Captain Cook be redefined from a great
naviagator who circumnavigated and mapped Australia into "A hatefull
symbol".

Does it involve being embarased for the crime of being a mere White in
front of Asians?

I don't care for some of your implicit definitions of "courage". It
is the rhetoric of an insecure simpleton.
Post by damnfine
and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
coward". Little politically correct turds like you often 'status
seek'. I.E. take on fashionable and often gutless political
viewpoints to gain a certain sense of status.

That is if you are White and not a White-ant.
Mobutu
2003-10-22 06:24:06 UTC
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Courageous would be saying all this somewhere where it counts, not newsgroups.
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person
Acting like a "courageous person" according to you involves being
sleep walked without protest into ethnic suicide while watching my
children, my niece and nepwhew and other menbers of my race and
culture being villfied, defamed, demoralised and minortised like
Kurds; unable to even determin how and what our children are to be
caught.
Does courage involve letting us be ripped of 7.5 billion dollars in
taxes to support the diversitycrat vampire industry?
According to you then courage involves overfilling the cities so that
traffic makes life hell when travelling to work. It involves putting
so may people in the country we're running out of money and places to
build damns to find water.
Does it involve letting Captain Cook be redefined from a great
naviagator who circumnavigated and mapped Australia into "A hatefull
symbol".
Does it involve being embarased for the crime of being a mere White in
front of Asians?
I don't care for some of your implicit definitions of "courage". It
is the rhetoric of an insecure simpleton.
Post by damnfine
and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
coward". Little politically correct turds like you often 'status
seek'. I.E. take on fashionable and often gutless political
viewpoints to gain a certain sense of status.
That is if you are White and not a White-ant.
The person you think
2003-10-22 11:48:21 UTC
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Nope - don't agree with you.

Courage would be posting with the real name and real email address. Usually
you find that someone sticking up adamantly for any ethnic grouping isn't of
that grouping but trying to stir shit.
Post by Mobutu
Courageous would be saying all this somewhere where it counts, not newsgroups.
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person
Acting like a "courageous person" according to you involves being
sleep walked without protest into ethnic suicide while watching my
children, my niece and nepwhew and other menbers of my race and
culture being villfied, defamed, demoralised and minortised like
Kurds; unable to even determin how and what our children are to be
caught.
Does courage involve letting us be ripped of 7.5 billion dollars in
taxes to support the diversitycrat vampire industry?
According to you then courage involves overfilling the cities so that
traffic makes life hell when travelling to work. It involves putting
so may people in the country we're running out of money and places to
build damns to find water.
Does it involve letting Captain Cook be redefined from a great
naviagator who circumnavigated and mapped Australia into "A hatefull
symbol".
Does it involve being embarased for the crime of being a mere White in
front of Asians?
I don't care for some of your implicit definitions of "courage". It
is the rhetoric of an insecure simpleton.
Post by damnfine
and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
coward". Little politically correct turds like you often 'status
seek'. I.E. take on fashionable and often gutless political
viewpoints to gain a certain sense of status.
That is if you are White and not a White-ant.
Me
2003-10-23 00:09:29 UTC
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Your statement might have had more credibility and seemed less hypocritical
if you had used YOUR real name and email address.
Post by The person you think
Nope - don't agree with you.
Courage would be posting with the real name and real email address. Usually
you find that someone sticking up adamantly for any ethnic grouping isn't of
that grouping but trying to stir shit.
The person you think
2003-10-23 13:13:35 UTC
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I wasn't the one making accusations of that nature. Therefore, what I said
was only pointing out the obvious. So, apart from making you think, the idea
was that the sender can be ignored. You failed.
Post by Me
Your statement might have had more credibility and seemed less
hypocritical
Post by Me
if you had used YOUR real name and email address.
Post by The person you think
Nope - don't agree with you.
Courage would be posting with the real name and real email address.
Usually
Post by The person you think
you find that someone sticking up adamantly for any ethnic grouping
isn't
Post by Me
of
Post by The person you think
that grouping but trying to stir shit.
damnfine
2003-10-22 14:21:01 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
coward".
And bouncing my own words back at me is about the extent of your reasoning
ability.


--
/^\damnfine/^\
"To disbelieve in the gods is at the same time to
affirm life, purpose, and beauty." - Emma Goldman
Thomas Jerome Newton
2003-10-23 00:51:24 UTC
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:51:01 +0930, "damnfine" <***@ihug.com.au>
wrote:

}The Enlightenment wrote:
}> > and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
}>
}> I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
}> coward".
}
}And bouncing my own words back at me is about the extent of your reasoning
}ability.

Too shoe fits all too well, dimfine.
damnfine
2003-10-23 06:53:03 UTC
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Post by Thomas Jerome Newton
}> > and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
}>
}> I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
}> coward".
}
}And bouncing my own words back at me is about the extent of your reasoning
}ability.
Too shoe fits all too well, dimfine.
Was that supposed to make sense?

Take a few deep breaths and try again.
--
/^\damnfine/^\
"To disbelieve in the gods is at the same time to
affirm life, purpose, and beauty." - Emma Goldman
Sultan
2003-10-23 07:32:11 UTC
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Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
coward".
And bouncing my own words back at me is about the extent of your reasoning
ability.
Reasoning ability?? When you've posted on this newsgroup evidence of
your reasoning ability, your attempts to try this line of attack might
have credibility. As it is, unlike Enlightenment who has posted
numerous articles that have , with the aid of evidence, logically
argued for a point of view, you've demonstrated nothing but a
proclivity for abuse.

I disagree with most of what Enlightenment says, but he does offer
reasoning and evidence. Lets see what you can do.
Kolu Koleff
2003-10-22 16:49:04 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person
Acting like a "courageous person" according to you involves being
sleep walked without protest into ethnic suicide while watching my
children, my niece and nepwhew and other menbers of my race and
culture being villfied, defamed, demoralised and minortised like
Kurds; unable to even determin how and what our children are to be
caught.
Does courage involve letting us be ripped of 7.5 billion dollars in
taxes to support the diversitycrat vampire industry?
It's culture not race that has made Australia successful. If people
believe in the core Western values that has made Australia great that's
all that matters. Multiculturalism belittles these values and fragments
this country.
Post by The Enlightenment
According to you then courage involves overfilling the cities so that
traffic makes life hell when travelling to work. It involves putting
so may people in the country we're running out of money and places to
build damns to find water.
Does it involve letting Captain Cook be redefined from a great
naviagator who circumnavigated and mapped Australia into "A hatefull
symbol".
Does it involve being embarased for the crime of being a mere White in
front of Asians?
I don't care for some of your implicit definitions of "courage". It
is the rhetoric of an insecure simpleton.
Post by damnfine
and not a pathetic, insecure and inadequate coward.
I'm pretty sure that you are the "pathetic, insecure and inadequate
coward". Little politically correct turds like you often 'status
seek'. I.E. take on fashionable and often gutless political
viewpoints to gain a certain sense of status.
That is if you are White and not a White-ant.
The Enlightenment
2003-10-23 01:35:10 UTC
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Post by Kolu Koleff
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Then start acting more like a noble and courageous person
Acting like a "courageous person" according to you involves being
sleep walked without protest into ethnic suicide while watching my
children, my niece and nepwhew and other menbers of my race and
culture being villfied, defamed, demoralised and minortised like
Kurds; unable to even determin how and what our children are to be
caught.
Does courage involve letting us be ripped of 7.5 billion dollars in
taxes to support the diversitycrat vampire industry?
It's culture not race that has made Australia successful. If people
believe in the core Western values that has made Australia great that's
all that matters. Multiculturalism belittles these values and fragments
this country.
I would have to mostly agree. I would however say that by pushing the
immigration of other races to fast, to much and too far the culture
may die with the race that spawned it. Ethnocide.

I have often had very cordial relations with asians. In my university
days, even as a recent post graduate student I have found myself
getting on very well with some of the asian students, particularly
Thai ones but mostly East Asians. I could easily have immgined myself
living a life with one. I have helped them and they have in return
helped me. I know for instance that Arthur has a Korean wife and
family a man I know from usenet and you know personaly. I am not
against such unions.

The people from that region have a larger than average number of
intelligent, paractcalble, agreegable and thrify members by nature
than most other races and they will generally do us no harm in the
sense of burdening us. Unfortunately when we see the effect of the
more uncontrolled immigraion policies such as the latter Vietnamese,
Lebanese, Turks in Australia or the even More Horrendous policy
absence in America of Hispanics we see White people suffering crime
from these groups at 4-10 times the white averge. We see Whites
burdened not only by crime but the tax burdens they create in the form
of Welfare dependacy, special needs in education, affirmitve action,
medical care, dysfunctional neighbourhoods.

These are massive costs deeply burdening White people and
http://www.dare.com has shown that immigraion into the US is costing
$1200 per tax payer.

Most grating of all is the rehashing and censoring of our history.

In great numbers immigrants will anhilate us by the process of
replacement immigration and in this case for me the personal is
political and I choose to make decisions to preserve and nurture my
race.

We are seeing great numbers.

I came to these news groups with a very libertarian ideas. Exposure
to ethno-marxists (like Fagnadh, Seppo) and walking in streets where I
was the only caucasian and other things soon made me ethncially and
racialy conscious. Anti-Racism and Ethno-Marxism was deeply
Anti-White.

Its time to smash them.
{[} jp.turcaud
2003-10-21 13:21:18 UTC
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Yep !
Great plea indeed !
But if you want to survive, you have to identify the Traitors to what you
stand for !
These are the abominable Xians sects with their treacherous Preeeeeests and
Meaneeeesterz , bloody Surrender Monkeys indeed, with their Love & Charity
Inc. juicy business ... and the others those Infamous Freemacs Traitors,
involved up to the neck into the Port Arthur Holocaust Cover up !

Wake up and know who are your enemies !

LET'S PRAY NOW !

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all !
Teach us to love our friends as best as we can with honour,
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for mercy !
Please curse them just as we do, and support our just anger !

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and never falter in the Respect of our Duty & Obedience to the Sacred
Cosmic Laws !!!!

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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
and circumnavigated continents and mapped them so that we could
relably return, invented polyphonic music, wrote great poetry and
novels, invented laws that liberate men democratically.
Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.
May great suffering deservedly befall those who seek to have us perish
or become small and disempowered like the Kurds by sleep walking us to
ethnocide and reviling us with defamations.
Darkfalz
2003-10-21 13:25:05 UTC
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I absolutely agree.

Consider this. A person says "I am proud to be black" or "I am proud to be
asian".

People will think, great, a person secure with their identity.

Now consider the statement "I am proud to be white".

Conjurs up thoughts of skinheads or KKK members. Being proud of being white
(or being proud of being male) automatically implies some form of bigotry,
whereas pride in being another colour or being female is promoted and
encouraged.

Personally, I don't think anyone should be proud of something they didn't
accomplish. It's like being proud of being tall. It's not like you did
anything to earn it, you just grew that way. But that is beside the point,
it seems there is a push to embrace and preserve every culture except white,
in fact, much of this "embracing" can actually be blamed for the ebbing away
of white culture.
damnfine
2003-10-21 13:23:58 UTC
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Post by Darkfalz
I absolutely agree.
<snip>
Post by Darkfalz
Personally, I don't think anyone should be proud of something they didn't
accomplish.
Then you don't "absolutely agree" at all, then.

You have a striking talent for still managing to be completely wrong about
something even when you're right in principle, Darkie.


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/^\damnfine/^\
"To disbelieve in the gods is at the same time to
affirm life, purpose, and beauty." - Emma Goldman
Darkfalz
2003-10-21 14:35:49 UTC
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Post by damnfine
Post by Darkfalz
Personally, I don't think anyone should be proud of something they didn't
accomplish.
Then you don't "absolutely agree" at all, then.
You have a striking talent for still managing to be completely wrong about
something even when you're right in principle, Darkie.
And you have a striking talent for finding the one thing you can actually
pick at, discarding the rest, and then attempting to use it to discredit
everything else a person said.

Dickhead.
damnfine
2003-10-21 14:32:17 UTC
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Post by Darkfalz
Post by damnfine
You have a striking talent for still managing to be completely wrong about
something even when you're right in principle, Darkie.
And you have a striking talent for finding the one thing you can actually
pick at, discarding the rest, and then attempting to use it to discredit
everything else a person said.
I signified the snippage, that's all I need to do. I'm still right. Deal with
it.



--
/^\damnfine/^\
"To disbelieve in the gods is at the same time to
affirm life, purpose, and beauty." - Emma Goldman
Mark
2003-10-22 04:32:14 UTC
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Post by damnfine
I signified the snippage, that's all I need to do. I'm still right. Deal with
it.
*Yawn*

Get over yourself.
The Enlightenment
2003-10-22 04:32:35 UTC
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Post by Darkfalz
I absolutely agree.
Consider this. A person says "I am proud to be black" or "I am proud to be
asian".
People will think, great, a person secure with their identity.
Now consider the statement "I am proud to be white".
Conjurs up thoughts of skinheads or KKK members.
Thank Hollywood. This is because biggoted and repetitive messages
have defamed and villified White people. Consider that the once US
vice president repeatedly used "Archi Bunker" as a strawman to attack
white biggots only Archie Bunker was a fictional TV character
specifically created to characture and villfiy White working class
men.
Post by Darkfalz
Being proud of being white
(or being proud of being male) automatically implies some form of bigotry,
whereas pride in being another colour or being female is promoted and
encouraged.
Indeed, of all the races and cultures Whites are denied celebrating,
tansmiting and absorbing their history and culture. The only music
they are allowed may not contain any political content. Only pap,
love, the plight of little brown children, clever abstractions or
attempting to con a girl via emotional backmail into haveing sex is
allowed. Hip Hop gansta rappers can say and do anything including
singing songs about killing whites.

The prevailing ideology of ethno-marxism, political correctness and
I'm afraid to say present philo-semitism contain within them a hidden
agenda of anti-whiteness. A double standard is evidence of a hidden
agenda and vice a versa.
Post by Darkfalz
Personally, I don't think anyone should be proud of something they didn't
accomplish.
One should take pride in the sense of hounouring ones ancestors and
taking inspiration in their accomplishments. This form of pride
(really a love and faith in ones culure) is essential for that culture
to continue. It is quite legitimate but it is certainly quite
different from a sense of personal accomplishment. What must be
realised is that without a culture its is poosble to have a race or
peoples bioculturally whiter and die.

I don't thin anyone really confaltes the two definitons of pride in
ones accomplishments and pride in ones heritage. Hyper-individualism
is promoted almost as much as ethno-marxism to discredit a sense of
heritage. It seems to make sense to Europeans since for histroic
reasons we are individualists are heart.

One of the achievements of political correctness has been to rob the
present and future of its historic specific context.
Post by Darkfalz
It's like being proud of being tall. It's not like you did
anything to earn it, you just grew that way.
I think people to "pride" in the good fortune of their appearence and
beauty. While a sense of perspective in the form of humility is
essential it is far better than the the opposit of "pride" which is in
fact "self hate" whcih can eqsily be promoted in prides absence.

I can see the sense of what you say, which is an argument aginst
irrational pride but I think you are using a definition of pride
different to my own.
Post by Darkfalz
But that is beside the point,
it seems there is a push to embrace and preserve every culture except white,
in fact, much of this "embracing" can actually be blamed for the ebbing away
of white culture.
Indeed this is so. A double standard.

You might find Stanley Womaks "Resisting Defamation" which
http://www.resistingdefamation.org/ which is ironically modelled on
the ADL interesting.

Heinrich Graetz, a Jewsh Hitorian of great note, launched a propaganda
strataegy of "scourging" and "flogging" the majority ethnicity in his
home country (Germany) in 1868, as well as a parallel propaganda
campaign "to shatter Christianity."

Various marxist think tanks, notably the Frankfurt School of Sociology
(the people that invented "critical theory" further developed the
strategy. They eventualy combined it with Fredian psychoanalysis to
more fully patholgise western culture.

There is information on them here:
http://www.propaganda101.com/SocialPsychology/frankfurt.htm

The Frankfurt school was kicked out of Germany for being communist
(and Jewish), came back into Germany under US funding to de nazify the
Germans and then returned to the US to work in Advertising. They were
formidable an invented most modern advertising techniqes inclding "the
worm" to guage people reactions to adverstisements or political
speeches.
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-22 11:23:52 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Darkfalz
Now consider the statement "I am proud to be white".
Conjurs up thoughts of skinheads or KKK members.
Thank Hollywood. This is because biggoted and repetitive messages
have defamed and villified White people. Consider that the once US
vice president repeatedly used "Archi Bunker" as a strawman to attack
white biggots only Archie Bunker was a fictional TV character
specifically created to characture and villfiy White working class
men.
Cos that has NEVER happened to other races.

Grow some pubes.

--
~

"Standards are for pussies"

~
H.Dickmann
2003-10-22 05:37:29 UTC
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Post by Darkfalz
I absolutely agree.
Consider this. A person says "I am proud to be black" or "I am proud to be
asian".
People will think, great, a person secure with their identity.
Now consider the statement "I am proud to be white".
Conjurs up thoughts of skinheads or KKK members. Being proud of being white
(or being proud of being male) automatically implies some form of bigotry,
whereas pride in being another colour or being female is promoted and
encouraged.
Personally, I don't think anyone should be proud of something they didn't
accomplish. It's like being proud of being tall. It's not like you did
anything to earn it, you just grew that way. But that is beside the point,
it seems there is a push to embrace and preserve every culture except white,
in fact, much of this "embracing" can actually be blamed for the ebbing away
of white culture.
First, there is no such thing as a white culture, a brown culture a black or
green culture. A culture are local customs and have nothing to do with
colour. Then there is no such thing as a white man. We all have melanin
which is a brown pigment. Some have less and look fair and blond while
others have more and look dark and black.
There is a big difference between being proud of ones culture and heritage
and believing that ones own culture is superior to all other cultures. We
have multiculturalism so that people from all cultures can live here and
observe their cultural traditions as long as we all live under the same law.
To believe that ones own culture is superior is racism. To point out that
ones oun culture is not superior has nothing to do bit being anti white,
just being anti racist.
|-|erc
2003-10-21 13:35:54 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
man you've never made a steam engine, you've never seen one. The
Japanese made amazing jumps in technology just observing steam ships
coming in range and duplicating them. Toshiba is based on a 200 year
old company.

Herc
The Enlightenment
2003-10-24 02:37:24 UTC
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Post by |-|erc
Post by The Enlightenment
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
man you've never made a steam engine, you've never seen one.
I've made Two. One at 10 years of age all by myself. It was actualy
a steam turbine made out of a can, a cork, thick foil from a piebase
for the turbine shovels and also used a bit of hose, some putty and a
Milo can for the boiler.
It opperated a fan. This setup was latter modiefied by me to extract
essential oils from flowers. I also made a reciprocating steam enigne
all of metal in high school when my metal crafting skills were better.
Post by |-|erc
The Japanese made amazing jumps in technology just observing steam ships
coming in range and duplicating them. Toshiba is based on a 200 year
old company.
So they're clever. Big deal. They were only 200 years later than us.

This does not detract from the proud accomplishments of our forbears.
Nor does Japanese cleverness provide an argument for why White people
should commit racial and cultural suicide by letting themselves be
replaced racialy and culuraly with Asians. Nor does it provide an
argument why they are "better".


"Thomas Newcomen (1663-1729)
Thomas Newcomen was an English blacksmith, who invented the
atmospheric steam engine, an improvement on Slavery's engine. A
Newcomen steam engine uses the force of atmospheric pressure to do
work. Newcomen's engine pumped steam into a cylinder. The steam was
then condensed by cold water which created a vacuum on the inside of
the cylinder. The resulting atmospheric pressure operated a piston,
creating downward strokes. In Newcomen's engine the intensity of
pressure was not limited by the pressure of the steam, unlike what
Thomas Savery had patented in 1698. In 1712, Newcomen together with
John Calley built their first engine on top of a water filled mine
shaft and used it to pump water out of the mine. "
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Herc
Tourette's
2003-10-21 14:48:40 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
Most of which, I venture a guess, you know little about.
Post by The Enlightenment
It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Yes it is. It is also bloodthirsty, oppressive, imperialistic,
genocidal, sexist, racist, fascist, anti-Semitic, and so on.

There's no need to don the black armband, but let's not
engage in cultural white-washing - your history and mine
is as soaked in blood as it is grand and celebratory.
Post by The Enlightenment
No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
Unique, yes. Better, no.
Post by The Enlightenment
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
and circumnavigated continents and mapped them so that we could
relably return, invented polyphonic music, wrote great poetry and
novels, invented laws that liberate men democratically.
Whereas the Chinese invented gunpowder to make nice sparkley
crackles in the sky. We stole it and invented machines of death to
shoot people. Bloody Asians!!
Post by The Enlightenment
Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.
I hope that's true. My guess is that the Asians are as proud of their
own culture and history, no matter how flawed it is, just as you are
proud of yours. Mutual respect is the key.

---
Tourette's
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2003-10-21 16:25:35 UTC
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"Tourette's" <***@notmail.hotmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:SHblb.217$***@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
"snip".
Post by Tourette's
Whereas the Chinese invented gunpowder to make nice sparkley
crackles in the sky. We stole it and invented machines of death to
shoot people. Bloody Asians!!
They invented nothing at all !
It was given to them by their original white Emperor Fou-Hi, The Son of the
Celestial Empire, since as you obviously do not know it , the Chinese were
originally white.
Huang-Ti or the Yellow Emperor is the start of the Yellow Chinese race, but
now since Emperor Mao Tseu Tung, they are reverting to being white again !
The reason ? ... you do not neeed to know !
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.
I hope that's true. My guess is that the Asians are as proud of their
own culture and history, no matter how flawed it is, just as you are
proud of yours. Mutual respect is the key.
---
Tourette's
Tourette you are a typical lefty traitor !
That's the first point

The second point is that Asians are not any more Yellow than the American
Indians were red !
... and color of the skin does not determine a race / ethnic ... I have been
black myself after days on end in the sun in the Australia or Algeria !
Ethnics are in fact generated by the Endocrinal system impressing the
Genetic code... and mutual respect which you invoke with such arrogance, is
just that other word for Surrendering !
There is no mutual respect indeed, except based on Real & Synthetic
knowledge
--
Jean-Paul Turcaud .
Senior Geologist
PhD Geology ( ANU ) Geomorphology ( CSIRO Scholar )
Founder of the True Geology
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-22 05:50:06 UTC
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Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
Unique, yes. Better, no.
What is bioculture anyway ?
The Enlightenment
2003-10-22 09:43:21 UTC
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Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
Most of which, I venture a guess, you know little about.
Post by The Enlightenment
It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Yes it is.
It is also bloodthirsty, oppressive, imperialistic,
genocidal, sexist, racist, fascist, anti-Semitic, and so on.
Your argument, a commonly heard one, sounds reasonable but it is not
really sincere. It says one thing, (to sound reasonable) but then
emphasises "blood thirsty" and "Anti-semitic". What this form of
defamation and psychological warfare consists of is a "but" attack.
Yes we invented democracy "but" we supposedly were "imperialistic"
and "racist" and you would be a biggot to white wash that for you must
dwell in your discredited culture for ever. The overall effect IS to
dwell in negativity rather than realism.

This is infact the same canard Susan Sontage used to attack Whites:
http://www.amren.com/antiwht.htm
Susan Sontag (white (actualy Ashkenazi jew) intellectual)

"The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean Algebra, Shakespeare,
parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation
of women, Kant, Marx, and Ballanchine ballets don't redeem what this
particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is
the cancer of human history."

It also implies that we are unqiuely racist and that the semites did
not do any thing which were anti-gentile. We are always 100% guilty.

It's OK for Moors to invade spain and subject it Islam but is wrong
for us to eventualy liberate it?

Its our fault when Indians and Aboriginals die of small pox but whem
we die of a mongol disease known as Bubonic Plauque caused by the
flinging of dead bodies into our ciies we are uniquely guilty.

The most tricky for of White villifcation is the silhouette slur which
operates to slur indirectly. The best example of this is righteous
gentile which, when patronizingly affixed to one European, is
obviously a way to demonize all other European Americans as evil
gentiles. The phrase righteous among the nations is a silhouette slur,
too, and for the same reason. These two phrases are identical in
meaning and nuance to the old patronizing slur, "a credit to his
race."
Post by Tourette's
There's no need to don the black armband, but let's not
engage in cultural white-washing - your history and mine
is as soaked in blood as it is grand and celebratory.
This often heard argument is really paying lip service. You REALLY
are actualy just saying lets done the black arm band. It is like
saying that a couple on their wedding annivesary should flagellate
themselves over last weeks arguments or sex with another partner
before they dated.

Whenever we want to celebrate Captain Cook or Columbus or James Watt
we get this "White Washing" attack and a remider to our children that
realistically we are sometimes nice and mostly viscious racists.

In other words there is no forgiveness on this earth for any whites.

Susan Sontag (white intellectual) "The truth is that Mozart, Pascal,
Boolean Algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque
churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, and
Ballanchine ballets don't redeem what this particular civilization has
wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human
history."
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
Unique, yes. Better, no.
I did not say that is is better. However in some cases it is clearly
better on an objective basis. In others it is, in its modern form,
possibly lacking. In others it is a matter of subjective opinion.
There is nothing wrong with believing your culture is better if you
can reasonably support that in the knowledge that your perseoctiuve is
limited.

Love your wife, love your children and love your culture and love your
race in clear conscience. If you want to love anything else please do
but remember your first responsbilities. Neglect has consequences.
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
and circumnavigated continents and mapped them so that we could
relably return, invented polyphonic music, wrote great poetry and
novels, invented laws that liberate men democratically.
Whereas the Chinese invented gunpowder to make nice sparkley
crackles in the sky. We stole it and invented machines of death to
shoot people. Bloody Asians!!
The origin of gunpowder is actualy not so clear and I believe the
Chinese forgot the art of making it and needed to reinvent it. It may
have been invented independantly/ I detract noting from the chinese
and their achievements. Certainly their gunpowder did them no good in
their crap cannon.

We often get the next argument. the Chinese invented priniting. Not
so. They had wooden blocks and movable wooden character type.
Guttenberg invented movable metal type whose durability and precision
was needed for tiny european characters. This is not to detract from
chinese but only to emppahise how we may not marval at this
accomplisment of our civilization.
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.
I hope that's true. My guess is that the Asians are as proud of their
own culture and history, no matter how flawed it is, just as you are
proud of yours. Mutual respect is the key.
Finaly we agree on someting.

Mutual respect does not mean opening up borders. Good fences make
good neighbours.
Post by Tourette's
---
Tourette's
Tourette's
2003-10-22 19:46:43 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
"The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean Algebra, Shakespeare,
parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation
of women, Kant, Marx, and Ballanchine ballets don't redeem what this
particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is
the cancer of human history."
The white race is the dominant expression of human advancement, how
you evaluate that is completely up to you. I don't subscribe to Sonntag's
theories, as much as you seem to enjoy putting words into my mouth.
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
There's no need to don the black armband, but let's not
engage in cultural white-washing - your history and mine
is as soaked in blood as it is grand and celebratory.
This often heard argument is really paying lip service. You REALLY
are actualy just saying lets done the black arm band. It is like
saying that a couple on their wedding annivesary should flagellate
themselves over last weeks arguments or sex with another partner
before they dated.
Again, you misconstrue and deliberately misinterpret what's been
said because you know how valid it is. The low point of any debate
is when someone engages in psychobabble or amateuresque linguistic
analysis and starts telling you what you REALLY think - it's then
they're revealed to be completely devoid of ideas themselves.

<continued rant snipped>
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
Unique, yes. Better, no.
I did not say that is is better. However in some cases it is clearly
better on an objective basis. In others it is, in its modern form,
possibly lacking. In others it is a matter of subjective opinion.
There is nothing wrong with believing your culture is better if you
can reasonably support that in the knowledge that your perseoctiuve is
limited.
That last statement is ludicrous. So, believing in cultural supremacy of
your own race is fine as long as you're aware that you have your head
up your own arse?
Post by The Enlightenment
Love your wife, love your children and love your culture and love your
race in clear conscience. If you want to love anything else please do
but remember your first responsbilities. Neglect has consequences.
What about love your wife, love your children and love *people*, in
that order?
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
I hope that's true. My guess is that the Asians are as proud of their
own culture and history, no matter how flawed it is, just as you are
proud of yours. Mutual respect is the key.
Finaly we agree on someting.
Mutual respect does not mean opening up borders. Good fences make
good neighbours.
If you want to build good fences, that's fine - let's withdraw from Iraq
and Afghanistan, shut down the sweatshops in Jakarta, Bangkok and
Taiwan where global corporations pay single mothers $0.90 an hour so
kids on the streets of Melbourne can wear $50 t-shirts, let's develop an
electric car and shut down oil interests in the Middle East, let's build a
Berlin Wall-style divide between Israel and Palestine, let's suspend any
fictitious free-trade agreements, Kyoto, UN charters, etc. etc. etc.

You obviously don't get it. The current economic order demands that
borders be open for trade and intercourse with other nations, whether
that be exploitative or benevolent. You cannot have a globalised
economy and lock the doors for fear of the multicultural bogeyman.

---
Tourette's
The Enlightenment
2003-10-23 07:38:21 UTC
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Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
"The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean Algebra, Shakespeare,
parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation
of women, Kant, Marx, and Ballanchine ballets don't redeem what this
particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is
the cancer of human history."
The white race is the dominant expression of human advancement, how
you evaluate that is completely up to you. I don't subscribe to Sonntag's
theories, as much as you seem to enjoy putting words into my mouth.
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
There's no need to don the black armband, but let's not
engage in cultural white-washing - your history and mine
is as soaked in blood as it is grand and celebratory.
This often heard argument is really paying lip service. You REALLY
are actualy just saying lets don the black arm band. It is like
saying that a couple on their wedding annivesary should flagellate
themselves over last weeks arguments or sex with another partner
before they dated.
Again, you misconstrue and deliberately misinterpret what's been
said because you know how valid it is. The low point of any debate
is when someone engages in psychobabble or amateuresque linguistic
analysis and starts telling you what you REALLY think - it's then
they're revealed to be completely devoid of ideas themselves.
I do not intend to deliberatly misrepresent your arguments into a
strawman villain that can easily be beaten up.

I do however seek to expose the double meanings and implicit
anti-white racism within them. The arguments you present are
sophisticated and you are of above average intelligence to recontruct
them but I have come across them before and although I do not believe
you are an conscious anti-white racist you have aborbed some
politically correct contexts that allow the emergence of Anti-White
racism.

Modern meme warfare is based upon this.

By saying that whites should be "realistic" about their "blood thirst"
and "racism" an opening is created in which Whites can be forever
impaled upon the reality of this "guilt". I use the analogy of a
couple again. It is not possible to have a forward moving
relationship if at every wedding anniversary one partner insists that
the other be "realistic" about his prior mysoginy and premaritial sex
and then insists upon atonement.

This is what I got from what you said. Yes we whites are no angels at
all times and i note that you said "no need to don the black armband"
but we have evil stereotypes of ourselves presented to us at to ruin
every possible cultural event or whenerver we simply behave think and
act as White people naturaly do.

Anti-White racism in the form of policical correctness seeks to
patholise noraml, healthy and beautifull white behaviour.
Post by Tourette's
<continued rant snipped>
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
Unique, yes. Better, no.
I did not say that is is better. However in some cases it is clearly
better on an objective basis. In others it is, in its modern form,
possibly lacking. In others it is a matter of subjective opinion.
There is nothing wrong with believing your culture is better if you
can reasonably support that in the knowledge that your perseoctiuve is
limited.
That last statement is ludicrous. So, believing in cultural supremacy of
your own race is fine as long as you're aware that you have your head
up your own arse?
Objectively we can demonstrate that White socieities have produced
some of the most prosperous, free and healthy socieites on earth and
certainly the most technolgicaly advanced from about 1500 to 1960

It would be harder to prove that we had produced the most genteel or
kindly culture.

It migh be possible to prove that we on an objective basis are less
succesfull than Islamic cvivilisation: they may win the demographic
game of numbers despite their retarded technolgical development.
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
Love your wife, love your children and love your culture and love your
race in clear conscience. If you want to love anything else please do
but remember your first responsbilities. Neglect has consequences.
What about love your wife, love your children and love *people*, in
that order?
My own race are people closer to me genetically and culturaly than
other races in general just as my own family is. My loyalty for
instace would noramly go to Australians and those local about me not
the millions that would come to this nation if they could.

Besides the unatural levels of ethnocidal immigraion white nations are
being subjected to mean that we can not offord the false dogama of
univeralism.
Univeralism, such as you espouse in effect denies us the right to
further existence and seld determination as we head for
minoritisation, marginailsiation and ethnocide.

As nations are broken on the wheel of internationalism, globalism,
multiculuralism I think many people will transfer their loylaties to
their ethnicticity, religion or race. I choose race. Its a choice.

The Jews choose the Jews, the Muslims the muslims the chinses the
chinese. Some of their members push multiculturalism when it benefits
them but not quite as often when they have to make more concessions
than they make gains.

Try and marry an muslim girl and see who has to change religion and
what relgion the children will have to be.
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
I hope that's true. My guess is that the Asians are as proud of their
own culture and history, no matter how flawed it is, just as you are
proud of yours. Mutual respect is the key.
Finaly we agree on someting.
Mutual respect does not mean opening up borders. Good fences make
good neighbours.
If you want to build good fences, that's fine - let's withdraw from Iraq
and Afghanistan, shut down the sweatshops in Jakarta, Bangkok and
Taiwan where global corporations pay single mothers $0.90 an hour so
kids on the streets of Melbourne can wear $50 t-shirts, let's develop an
electric car and shut down oil interests in the Middle East, let's build a
Berlin Wall-style divide between Israel and Palestine, let's suspend any
fictitious free-trade agreements, Kyoto, UN charters, etc. etc. etc.
I am a nationalist and I revile globalism almost as much as I do
internationalism.

Those asian sweetshops are no worse than the Australian ones I saw as
I crawled in their roof spaces installin security systems as an
apprentice 20 years ago and the asians working in them are probably
better of. Nike in Vietnam pays so much they were canabalising all
the teachers and doctors.

those factories in Marrickville were as bad as anything in asia.
(they still weren't to bad. the idea of sitting down and sewing 8-10
hours is a torture at the same level as the rack or iron maiden for a
uni educated marxist twat but my motehr an maybe yours did that.

The whole sweetshop thing is a bit of a furphy. White people exploit
no one. its other asians doing it to each other and I even have my
doubts about that. Its mesican shitpigs and asian companies in mexico
that are the realy indifferent bastards.

Reminds me of the thai sex trade: whites get the blame but 93% of the
customers are thai men.
Post by Tourette's
You obviously don't get it. The current economic order demands that
borders be open for trade and intercourse with other nations, whether
that be exploitative or benevolent. You cannot have a globalised
economy and lock the doors for fear of the multicultural bogeyman.
It is quite possible to have free trade of goods (and serivces) but
restrict the free movement of people to an essential minimum.

It would be good for White people in the west, not quite so good for
the corparations which want cheap labour pouring into the west which
also fuels demand but overall we would be bewtter of.
Post by Tourette's
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Tourette's
Tourette's
2003-10-25 00:39:29 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Tourette's
Again, you misconstrue and deliberately misinterpret what's been
said because you know how valid it is. The low point of any debate
is when someone engages in psychobabble or amateuresque linguistic
analysis and starts telling you what you REALLY think - it's then
they're revealed to be completely devoid of ideas themselves.
I do not intend to deliberatly misrepresent your arguments into a
strawman villain that can easily be beaten up.
That would put you in the minority of Usenet posters then <g>
Post by The Enlightenment
I do however seek to expose the double meanings and implicit
anti-white racism within them. The arguments you present are
sophisticated and you are of above average intelligence to recontruct
them but I have come across them before and although I do not believe
you are an conscious anti-white racist you have aborbed some
politically correct contexts that allow the emergence of Anti-White
racism.
We are all creatures of context, it cannot be avoided, hence your point
referring to memes below. But that isn't a response to the issue or my
point either - whether I am using naturally-formulated ideas or socially
indoctrinated memes (which I don't subscribe to, by the way, memetic
theory being so inherently negative) they are still *mine* and I know the
meaning and context of what I was saying.

I understand the sophisticated point you are making, but I reject it.
I have not 'absorbed anti-White racism', any more than I have absorbed
Hitler's insane racial theories because I once read Mein Kampf. I am
espousing ideas formed through experience, study, travel and my
own thoughts.
Post by The Enlightenment
Modern meme warfare is based upon this.
The fact you see it as warfare is a significant point.
Post by The Enlightenment
By saying that whites should be "realistic" about their "blood thirst"
and "racism" an opening is created in which Whites can be forever
impaled upon the reality of this "guilt". I use the analogy of a
couple again. It is not possible to have a forward moving
relationship if at every wedding anniversary one partner insists that
the other be "realistic" about his prior mysoginy and premaritial sex
and then insists upon atonement.
An inappropriate analogy. Western 'white' society, if there is such a
thing, is far more broad, complex and dynamic than two newlyweds.
Post by The Enlightenment
This is what I got from what you said. Yes we whites are no angels at
all times and i note that you said "no need to don the black armband"
but we have evil stereotypes of ourselves presented to us at to ruin
every possible cultural event or whenerver we simply behave think and
act as White people naturaly do.
History is not an 'evil stereotype'. We, as whites, should celebrate and
rejoice in the positive achievements of our history and culture, but also
recall the many times when we have created and perpetuated cruelty,
violence, exploitation and domination upon the other people's of the
world. We need to do this to keep ourselves 'racially grounded', or else
the number of fanatical racist sliver-groups - skinheads, neo-Nazis et al -
will skyrocket.
Post by The Enlightenment
Anti-White racism in the form of policical correctness seeks to
patholise noraml, healthy and beautifull white behaviour.
No it doesn't - it seeks to promote it. 'Beautiful white behaviour' does
not include killing six million Jews, exploiting nations, enslaving and
transporting people on the basis of skin colour, developing a system of
racial separation called apartheid, and so on, and so on. These actions
stem from dangerous ideas, and dangerous ideas must be controlled.
Post by The Enlightenment
Objectively we can demonstrate that White socieities have produced
some of the most prosperous, free and healthy socieites on earth and
certainly the most technolgicaly advanced from about 1500 to 1960
Indeed
Post by The Enlightenment
It would be harder to prove that we had produced the most genteel or
kindly culture.
Ditto.
Post by The Enlightenment
It migh be possible to prove that we on an objective basis are less
succesfull than Islamic cvivilisation: they may win the demographic
game of numbers despite their retarded technolgical development.
Possibly, although the use of the word 'retarded' is value-laden.

---
Tourette's
Sultan
2003-10-23 07:48:59 UTC
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Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
Most of which, I venture a guess, you know little about.
Post by The Enlightenment
It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history.
Yes it is. It is also bloodthirsty, oppressive, imperialistic,
genocidal, sexist, racist, fascist, anti-Semitic, and so on.
These characteristics are found to a lesser or greater extent in just
about all cultures.

Your point is?
Post by Tourette's
There's no need to don the black armband, but let's not
engage in cultural white-washing - your history and mine
is as soaked in blood as it is grand and celebratory.
Is it? You're saying that the bad aspects of Western culture exactly
equal the good aspects. Is that right?
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
Unique, yes. Better, no.
Why not?

Are you arguing that all cultures are equal?





Certainly, Western culture is the one that is most emulated around the
world.

It is to western cultures that people from other cultures seek to
immigrate in their millions upon millions. Why would this be that case
unless there was something very, very attractive about western
culture?

It is Western societies that have disproportionately been responsible
for notions of denmocracy and the advancement of science and
technology.

It is western nations by far which have more tolerant open societies
than non-Western societies. You do recognise this fact, don't you?
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
and circumnavigated continents and mapped them so that we could
relably return, invented polyphonic music, wrote great poetry and
novels, invented laws that liberate men democratically.
Whereas the Chinese invented gunpowder to make nice sparkley
crackles in the sky. We stole it
Stole it? An emotional slant to put on the situation and an incorrect
one at that.


and invented machines of death to
Post by Tourette's
shoot people. Bloody Asians!!
Asian socieies also explored the development of weapons technology,
including the development of biolgical weapons - catapaulting diseased
corpses into seiged areas - but given their overall inferiority in
technological advances were less capable of doing so than the west.
Post by Tourette's
Post by The Enlightenment
Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.
I hope that's true. My guess is that the Asians are as proud of their
own culture and history,
But you wouldn't call them racist for being so - right?


no matter how flawed it is, just as you are
Post by Tourette's
proud of yours. Mutual respect is the key.
---
Tourette's
TheMan
2003-10-21 16:06:49 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
This is just evidence Asians are still one of the most racist people in the
world. And the lefties were bitching PH out for even suggesting reducing
Asian immigration... absolutely ridiculous.

-TheMan-
The Enlightenment
2003-10-22 06:53:04 UTC
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Post by TheMan
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
This is just evidence Asians are still one of the most racist people in the
world.
And I see nothing wrong with that and I will respect it so long as it
is not hatefull or hypocritical. I don not want them in my country
and they do not me in theirs in large nuumbers. Some of them however
are hypocrical about it. Worse the PC lemmings in Australia go along
with it and thus encourage it.
Post by TheMan
And the lefties were bitching PH out for even suggesting reducing
Asian immigration... absolutely ridiculous.
-TheMan-
Those anti-racists who are infact really anti-white (and that is
probably more than 1/2 of them) want to tell us that honouring our
history and predecesors by drawing inspiration from their achievments
are somehow implicitly hatefull and biggoted.

This is a false argument. It is like saying that if you love your
wife and family then you hate all other women and children.

But this is whate they are arguing and many people have been conned by
it.

They want us be feel ashamed of our historical culture. They are in
fact defaming us by indirect arguments. By criminilising our past and
teaching this to out children they want to subly discredit our culture
and patholgise our viewpoints and race so that we do not care to
nurture the very culture which nourishes our children and sustains
their wellbeing and continuance in the future.

Black, Aboriginal and many Jewish organisations (whose organsiations
are sometimes the source of defamation against whites) are allowed to
show pride and ethnic consciousness but we are not. This double
standard shows that their anti-racism is really covering a hidden
agenda of anti-white psychological warefare.
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-22 12:14:22 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Black, Aboriginal and many Jewish organisations (whose organsiations
are sometimes the source of defamation against whites) are allowed to
show pride and ethnic consciousness but we are not. This double
standard shows that their anti-racism is really covering a hidden
agenda of anti-white psychological warefare.
Its interesting to see that the people you accuse of sometimes being "the
source of defamation against whites"are also the groups that have the most
to hate white people for.

Jesus man... take a look through history and its always been white people
screwing other races.

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AntiMulticulture
2003-10-22 12:18:07 UTC
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Aaron Matthews <cantonaTHEY-PEED-ON-MY-FUCKING-***@ihug.co.nz> wrote in
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Post by Aaron Matthews
Its interesting to see that the people you accuse of sometimes being "the
source of defamation against whites"are also the groups that have the most
to hate white people for.
And the most reason to thank whites.
Post by Aaron Matthews
Jesus man... take a look through history and its always been white people
screwing other races.
Really? The Mongol & Ottoman Empires a figment of our imagination were they?

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JimB
Union Against Multiculturalism
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-22 12:34:34 UTC
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Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
Its interesting to see that the people you accuse of sometimes being "the
source of defamation against whites"are also the groups that have the most
to hate white people for.
And the most reason to thank whites.
umm.. yeh... slavery, genocide...
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
Jesus man... take a look through history and its always been white people
screwing other races.
Really? The Mongol & Ottoman Empires a figment of our imagination were they?
LOL.

Nice.

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"Standards are for pussies"

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Union Against Multiculturalism
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AntiMulticulture
2003-10-22 12:51:24 UTC
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Post by Aaron Matthews
umm.. yeh... slavery, genocide...
The Africans weren't slow at selling each other into slavery you know, or
committing genocide against each other.....in fact they still do both. But
onto white achievements in these societies.....schools, sewerage, roads,
hospitals, a justice system, a political system.....
Post by Aaron Matthews
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
Jesus man... take a look through history and its always been white
people
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
screwing other races.
Really? The Mongol & Ottoman Empires a figment of our imagination were
they?
LOL.
Nice.
No Aaron, they weren't "nice" ....

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Union Against Multiculturalism
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-23 10:21:16 UTC
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Post by AntiMulticulture
The Africans weren't slow at selling each other into slavery you know, or
committing genocide against each other.....in fact they still do both.
Thats entirely irrelevent. People fuck each over. Its a fact of like..
humans... nothing to do with colour or religion or race.
Post by AntiMulticulture
But
onto white achievements in these societies.....schools, sewerage, roads,
hospitals, a justice system, a political system.....
LOL. And Australia has in no way benefitted from the influx of asian
dollars...

Grow up, for christs sake.
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
Nice.
No Aaron, they weren't "nice" ....
i wasn;t saying they were. It was a response to your hilariously pointless
example.

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Post by Aaron Matthews
umm.. yeh... slavery, genocide...
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
Jesus man... take a look through history and its always been white
people
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Aaron Matthews
screwing other races.
Really? The Mongol & Ottoman Empires a figment of our imagination were
they?
LOL.
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Union Against Multiculturalism
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
atec77
2003-10-22 12:39:31 UTC
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whooooo bigfella , you letting the truth get in the way of a good lie here. best
be careful with this logic you will be proven correct.
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Post by Aaron Matthews
Its interesting to see that the people you accuse of sometimes being "the
source of defamation against whites"are also the groups that have the most
to hate white people for.
And the most reason to thank whites.
Post by Aaron Matthews
Jesus man... take a look through history and its always been white people
screwing other races.
Really? The Mongol & Ottoman Empires a figment of our imagination were they?
--
JimB
Union Against Multiculturalism
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
AntiMulticulture
2003-10-22 12:59:14 UTC
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Post by atec77
whooooo bigfella , you letting the truth get in the way of a good lie here. best
be careful with this logic you will be proven correct.
I wouldn't be concerned if it were just "Aaron", but this is what is being
taught in our school system....imagine six hours a day of being of being
told how "evil" whites are in favour of the notion that the third world
really are an advanced civilisation.

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Union Against Multiculturalism
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fasgnadh
2003-10-22 14:03:20 UTC
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..
this is what is being taught in our school system....
imagine six hours a day of being of being
told how "evil" whites are
I'm sure your teacher just meant you.

As your parents and the police have told you, your job in
school is to listen and learn, not to shit in the hall, masturbate in class
and make your childish scribbles in Usenet.

How many more years do you plan to spend in grade 6?
JimB
Hey Jimmybob, your brother BobbyJim wants to borrow your banjo,
and your girlfriend.. can you go down to the sty and get her?
atec77
2003-10-22 21:43:52 UTC
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Im involved business which exposes me to considerable discourse with the youth
in our area , some get a little offended initially at my reaction to the crap
they are being taught at school until they chat to myself and others in my age
group , its odd that the revelation we love and fought to defend Australia
should be news to them , that christian ideals transcend any religious
boundaries and accepting responsibilities for ones own actions starts at home .
I simply suggest that the education programs available these days should be
soundly tempered with some some commonsense acceptance that Australia has much
to offer and "multiculturism is another word describing currently acceptable
bigotry , human nature prevents any possibility of it working if those
participating continue to drag baggage into the situation.
Perhaps its time to return to the training and discipline I found offered in
the "cadets" and later basic training.
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by atec77
whooooo bigfella , you letting the truth get in the way of a good lie here.
best
Post by atec77
be careful with this logic you will be proven correct.
I wouldn't be concerned if it were just "Aaron", but this is what is being
taught in our school system....imagine six hours a day of being of being
told how "evil" whites are in favour of the notion that the third world
really are an advanced civilisation.
--
JimB
Union Against Multiculturalism
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
AntiMulticulture
2003-10-24 13:05:19 UTC
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Well said.
Post by atec77
Im involved business which exposes me to considerable discourse with the youth
in our area , some get a little offended initially at my reaction to the crap
they are being taught at school until they chat to myself and others in my age
group , its odd that the revelation we love and fought to defend Australia
should be news to them , that christian ideals transcend any religious
boundaries and accepting responsibilities for ones own actions starts at home .
I simply suggest that the education programs available these days should be
soundly tempered with some some commonsense acceptance that Australia has much
to offer and "multiculturism is another word describing currently acceptable
bigotry , human nature prevents any possibility of it working if those
participating continue to drag baggage into the situation.
Perhaps its time to return to the training and discipline I found offered in
the "cadets" and later basic training.
--

JimB
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Union Against Multiculturalism
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-24 14:47:19 UTC
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Post by atec77
Post by atec77
Im involved business which exposes me to considerable discourse with the
youth
Post by atec77
in our area , some get a little offended initially at my reaction to the
crap
Post by atec77
they are being taught at school until they chat to myself and others in my
age
Post by atec77
group
, its odd that the revelation we love and fought to defend Australia
should be news to them , that christian ideals
Christian ideals huh ? Not having sex before marriage doesn't sound too
ideal to me.
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
transcend any religious
boundaries and accepting responsibilities for ones own actions starts at
home .
Post by atec77
I simply suggest that the education programs available these days should
be
about christianity ?
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
soundly tempered with some some commonsense acceptance that Australia has
much
Post by atec77
to offer and "multiculturism is another word describing currently
acceptable
Post by atec77
bigotry ,
It's the people against multiculuralism, those that can't appreciate
diversity, that are the bigots.

People have been coming to other countries and affecting it's culture
long before there was a policy of multiculuralism.
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
human nature prevents any possibility of it working if those
participating continue to drag baggage into the situation.
And it's those damn immigrants that are conveniently dragging the
baggage right ?
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
Perhaps its time to return to the training and discipline I found offered
in
Post by atec77
the "cadets" and later basic training.
I don't know what planet you are on.
Post by atec77
Well said.
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Union Against Multiculturalism
Oh jeezus, I don't know where to begin with your website. It reads like
the beginning of Mein Kampf. "Protecting White, Christian & European
traditions and values" indeed.
atec77
2003-10-24 21:29:07 UTC
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I can see it now , the next time we have a major conflagration nancy boys like
you will discover performing oral favors wont save you from the oppression and
physical problems associated with suicide bombers and those who don't obey the
rules , w Ill defend my country even if it means saving your skanky arse ,
speaking of neither regions Im sure after Friday night we don't want to know about
yours.
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
Im involved business which exposes me to considerable discourse with the
youth
Post by atec77
in our area , some get a little offended initially at my reaction to the
crap
Post by atec77
they are being taught at school until they chat to myself and others in my
age
Post by atec77
group
, its odd that the revelation we love and fought to defend Australia
should be news to them , that christian ideals
Christian ideals huh ? Not having sex before marriage doesn't sound too
ideal to me.
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
transcend any religious
boundaries and accepting responsibilities for ones own actions starts at
home .
Post by atec77
I simply suggest that the education programs available these days should
be
about christianity ?
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
soundly tempered with some some commonsense acceptance that Australia has
much
Post by atec77
to offer and "multiculturism is another word describing currently
acceptable
Post by atec77
bigotry ,
It's the people against multiculuralism, those that can't appreciate
diversity, that are the bigots.
People have been coming to other countries and affecting it's culture
long before there was a policy of multiculuralism.
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
human nature prevents any possibility of it working if those
participating continue to drag baggage into the situation.
And it's those damn immigrants that are conveniently dragging the
baggage right ?
Post by atec77
Post by atec77
Perhaps its time to return to the training and discipline I found offered
in
Post by atec77
the "cadets" and later basic training.
I don't know what planet you are on.
Post by atec77
Well said.
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Union Against Multiculturalism
Oh jeezus, I don't know where to begin with your website. It reads like
the beginning of Mein Kampf. "Protecting White, Christian & European
traditions and values" indeed.
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-25 02:07:48 UTC
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Post by atec77
I can see it now , the next time we have a major conflagration nancy boys like
you will discover performing oral favors wont save you from the oppression and
physical problems associated with suicide bombers and those who don't obey the
rules
, w Ill defend my country even if it means saving your skanky arse ,
speaking of neither regions Im sure after Friday night we don't want to know about
yours.
I think I just saw your credibility (what little there was of it), walk
out the door.

Are they putting something in the holy water at church these days ?
atec77
2003-10-25 03:25:04 UTC
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Thats just the point , you dont see anything but a slanted view on the facts you
deny.
try again and next time do better...
Next.
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by atec77
I can see it now , the next time we have a major conflagration nancy boys like
you will discover performing oral favors wont save you from the oppression and
physical problems associated with suicide bombers and those who don't obey the
rules
, w Ill defend my country even if it means saving your skanky arse ,
speaking of neither regions Im sure after Friday night we don't want to know about
yours.
I think I just saw your credibility (what little there was of it), walk
out the door.
Are they putting something in the holy water at church these days ?
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-25 04:28:02 UTC
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Post by atec77
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by atec77
I can see it now , the next time we have a major conflagration nancy
boys
like
you will discover performing oral favors wont save you from the
oppression
and
physical problems associated with suicide bombers and those who don't
obey
the
rules
, w Ill defend my country even if it means saving your skanky arse ,
speaking of neither regions Im sure after Friday night we don't want to
know
about
yours.
I think I just saw your credibility (what little there was of it), walk
out the door.
Are they putting something in the holy water at church these days ?
Thats just the point , you dont see anything but a slanted view on the facts you
deny.
try again and next time do better...
Next.
What facts ? You haven't put forward any facts... you are implying that
World War 1 and 2 aren't taught in schools anymore, then go on to spout
a bunch of bigoted and christianity nonsense....is "christian values
transcend religuos boundaries" a fact ?!? you also claim that children
then swallow your bullshit, which i most sincerely doubt, because even
children aren't THAT naive.

go back to your cave, or go and defend us from the weapons of mass
deception you hero... either one I don't care.
atec77
2003-10-25 06:55:09 UTC
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Im going to make this simple , I dont answer you and I know your a fool as do the
majority of right thinking folks here...
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by atec77
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by atec77
I can see it now , the next time we have a major conflagration nancy
boys
like
you will discover performing oral favors wont save you from the
oppression
and
physical problems associated with suicide bombers and those who don't
obey
the
rules
, w Ill defend my country even if it means saving your skanky arse ,
speaking of neither regions Im sure after Friday night we don't want to
know
about
yours.
I think I just saw your credibility (what little there was of it), walk
out the door.
Are they putting something in the holy water at church these days ?
Thats just the point , you dont see anything but a slanted view on the facts you
deny.
try again and next time do better...
Next.
What facts ? You haven't put forward any facts... you are implying that
World War 1 and 2 aren't taught in schools anymore, then go on to spout
a bunch of bigoted and christianity nonsense....is "christian values
transcend religuos boundaries" a fact ?!? you also claim that children
then swallow your bullshit, which i most sincerely doubt, because even
children aren't THAT naive.
go back to your cave, or go and defend us from the weapons of mass
deception you hero... either one I don't care.
Diabolik
2003-10-22 07:50:20 UTC
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Post by TheMan
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
This is just evidence Asians are still one of the most racist people in the
world. And the lefties were bitching PH out for even suggesting reducing
Asian immigration... absolutely ridiculous.
Howard takes a tough stance with boat people but let's in record numbers of
Immigrants in Australia. He's selling out Australia.
Hunter1
2003-10-22 15:18:30 UTC
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Post by Diabolik
Howard takes a tough stance with boat people but let's in record numbers of
Immigrants in Australia. He's selling out Australia.
Actually for the little weasel he is he's fucking smart, and
I'll be voting for him in the next election if he stands, we
get rid of the economic opportunists and we let in those
with plenty of their own money or plenty of skills. I don't
give a fuck where they come from as long as they're going to
be an asset rather than a burden. Killing the refugee
scamwagon and focusing on skilled immigration is a bloody
good policy.
The Enlightenment
2003-10-24 05:41:30 UTC
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Post by Hunter1
Post by Diabolik
Howard takes a tough stance with boat people but let's in record numbers of
Immigrants in Australia. He's selling out Australia.
Actually for the little weasel he is he's fucking smart, and
I'll be voting for him in the next election if he stands, we
get rid of the economic opportunists and we let in those
with plenty of their own money or plenty of skills. I don't
give a fuck where they come from as long as they're going to
be an asset rather than a burden. Killing the refugee
scamwagon and focusing on skilled immigration is a bloody
good policy.
I'd have to agree that its 'better' than the excesses that the ALP
inflicted upon Australians. At the momment the 0.6% to 1% immigration
rate influx into the west is in the process of changing so that a
larger number of skilled and professional people are involved. Don't
rejoice to soon because the dross is still part of the scheme. Fifty
percent of the crime in Campbeltown is now Islander based.

Soon the middle classes will begin to suffer the way the working
classes once were. We are seeing this already in the form of IT where
large numbers of IT workers were pouring into the country even as tens
of thousands were sacked, retrenched or casualised and both
Australians and immigrants were ending up driving Taxis.

Unless we are allowed to develop an ethnic national consciousness like
the other ethnicticies have and are allowed to express we will be
doomed to extinction and suffering. This is because "good" is
measured in abstract terms such as profit, growth, diversity,
population size that benefit only a few elites in some cases while
ignoring the effects on people here now. The Australians here now,
who are mostly White, pay for it.

Getting a sense into the immigraion process such that it will reflect
on the costs to the averge Joe is nearly impossible. It is dominated
by and run for the benefit of economic elites, ethnic elites and
supported ethnocentric immigrant groups. They call it bipartisanship.
Essentialy they deem any anti-immigration policy racist (implying
Nazi) and will shut down economic arguments as well as legitimate
cultural ones.
LDL
2003-10-25 07:25:24 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I'd have to agree that its 'better' than the excesses that the ALP
inflicted upon Australians. At the momment the 0.6% to 1% immigration
rate influx into the west is in the process of changing so that a
larger number of skilled and professional people are involved. Don't
rejoice to soon because the dross is still part of the scheme. Fifty
percent of the crime in Campbeltown is now Islander based.
As far I know, the Department of Immigration has put a stop on IT
professionals into the country. There were heaps that came from India but
now that flow is stopping.

My concern is that It will continue to dwindle to a basic skeleton staff and
most will be sourced overseas.

Looks like that the western way of life will shrink in the future because
the world is becoming smaller every day and competition from developing
countries with their population as their major export like India and China
will always be cheaper than the developed countries.

Could there be a solution?
Moses Lim
2003-10-21 16:44:24 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
---snipped---

eeerrr.. as someone said recently .. u have to be at least 51% asian
before u can be called asian :)

so relax ...it looks like u get to stay whatever colour u were borned
with :) not that i give care about what it is ..
Post by The Enlightenment
May great suffering deservedly befall those who seek to have us perish
or become small and disempowered like the Kurds by sleep walking us to
ethnocide and reviling us with defamations.
after reading similar postings from u in different NGs .. i still dunno
how and where u come up with shit like this!!!

and u complain about being ¨reviled ...with defamations¨ ??? gawd ...
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-22 10:48:16 UTC
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<snip>

White isn't a culture. White isn't a race.

There are millions of white people in the world. To say they have the same
culture and race is one of the stupidest and most bigotted things i have
ever heard.

If you are gonna make some huge statement like this then actually take the
time to think about it.
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"Standards are for pussies"

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The Enlightenment
2003-10-22 14:39:52 UTC
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Post by damnfine
<snip>
White isn't a culture. White isn't a race.
Whites most definetly ARE a race. Race denial is a form of racism
used very frequently against whites. It is used to deny us a voice
and to legitimate racism aginst us by denying us an indentity. People
speak as Jews or as Blacks or as coloured people but we are denied the
right to express ourselelves form this voice. We consist of some 50
diverse sub ethnicticies that however share much in common. A serb, a
swiss and a finn are very similar to ech other compared to any african
or asian. Non will marry a first cousin but an Arab or Hebrew will.

Culture is an excretion of history and environment but also race as
well as.

Let me explain.

For instance IQ tests measure 6 components of congnitive ability.
Broadly 3 in the visual spatial areas and 3 in the lingusitic logical
area. Consistantly the weighting of these components shows a racial
correlation. Even after adoption into European familes Korean and
other East Asian Children show a visual spatial bias. 3rd generation
and older Americans of Asian racial ancestry also show the bias. Its
the same with Blacks but who also for instance have 22% higher
testosterone. Perhaps the reason that blacks on average have their
children younger than whites is that they mature sexualy 1 year
earlier and are driven by stronger sexual urges.

These are merely researched statisitcal facts but this doesn't matter.
What matters is that if I choose to identify as a White person then I
have a right to do that. Using the biggotry of race denial is simply
a form of racism.

The ethno-marxist shitpigs never deny an African a voice as a Black
becuase he may be Bantu, Shona, Kaffir or Somali? They never deny a
Ashekanazi Jew a voice becuase he is 70% Semitic and 30% hebrew by
DNA?
Post by damnfine
There are millions of white people in the world. To say they have the same
culture and race is one of the stupidest and most bigotted things i have
ever heard.
A biggot is someone who holds on to an opinion despite overwhelming
evidence to the contrary. You may be a biggot yourself. I note your
'race denial' attempt.

As for stupidity I'm sure you are frequently acquainted with your own.
Post by damnfine
If you are gonna make some huge statement like this then actually take the
time to think about it.
honi soit
fasgnadh
2003-10-22 15:23:26 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
<snip>
White isn't a culture. White isn't a race.
Whites most definetly ARE a race.
So the racists, despite ALL their denials, DO base their
primitive 'race' myth on nothing more than Skin colour! B^p
Post by The Enlightenment
Race denial is a form of racism
used very frequently against whites.
It is used to deny us a voice
and to legitimate racism aginst us by denying us an indentity.
I never knew you were Japanese. I always thought you
were a pink European!
Post by The Enlightenment
People speak as Jews or as Blacks
So you claim 'Jews' are a 'race' and 'Blacks',
even though there are black jews!? B^p

In your first two sentances your irrationality and contradictions
are exposed!

Any system where people can be part of TWO categories
you claim are distinct, is clearly NONSENSE!

Which is what racism is, a primitive superstition with
no rational basis, let alone a scientific taxonomy.
LumpenProl.
2003-10-23 09:37:12 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
<snip>
White isn't a culture. White isn't a race.
Whites most definetly ARE a race. Race denial is a form of racism
used very frequently against whites. It is used to deny us a voice
and to legitimate racism aginst us by denying us an indentity. People
speak as Jews or as Blacks or as coloured people but we are denied the
right to express ourselelves form this voice. We consist of some 50
diverse sub ethnicticies that however share much in common. A serb, a
swiss and a finn are very similar to ech other compared to any african
or asian. Non will marry a first cousin but an Arab or Hebrew will.
snip cos etc. etc. ad nauseum:

REAL whites don't adopt a 'pathetic-victim' persona as you do ...you
come across as more a snivelling whining Jew-boy than a rugged Aryan;
in point of fact I'd wager Berlin to a bagel that after reading your
pitiful never-ending saga of persecution the Nazi's would have
frogmarched you to the head of the queue & given you a damn fine gassing
The Enlightenment
2003-10-23 23:37:21 UTC
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Post by LumpenProl.
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
<snip>
White isn't a culture. White isn't a race.
Whites most definetly ARE a race. Race denial is a form of racism
used very frequently against whites. It is used to deny us a voice
and to legitimate racism aginst us by denying us an indentity.
People
Post by LumpenProl.
Post by The Enlightenment
speak as Jews or as Blacks or as coloured people but we are denied the
right to express ourselves form this voice. We consist of some 50
diverse sub ethnicticies that however share much in common. A serb, a
swiss and a finn are very similar to ech other compared to any african
or asian. Non will marry a first cousin but an Arab or Hebrew will.
REAL whites don't adopt a 'pathetic-victim' persona as you do ...you
come across as more a snivelling whining Jew-boy than a rugged
Aryan;
Post by LumpenProl.
in point of fact I'd wager Berlin to a bagel that after reading your
pitiful never-ending saga of persecution the Nazi's would have
frogmarched you to the head of the queue & given you a damn fine gassing
I am not, in the above instance, espousing the folk oriented ideology
of German National Socialism but then I am not a German National
Socialist. Why would you even bother to bring them up? Usually the
citation of Nazis and the Holocaust is a slur technique used against
Whites and it is therefore racist as per the context.

I am using the techniques of political correctness or "critical
theory" that ethno-Marxists use against White people only re-oriented
to a White perspective. It is quite effective and I am glad it grates
you; all you have able to come up with is "the nazis wouldn't have
liked it" which is quite a pathetic argument to put. If anything I
would expect Adolf and Joseph would be up there in Valhalla having a
chuckle over the Irony.

I am White. I am not Asian. I do not want to become Asian nor do I
want my children to have their right to cultural self determination be
annihilated by anti-white racism which seeks to force by power of
slanders and defamation's against us and our history to destroy our
right to exist and invoke hatred against us.
Mobutu
2003-10-24 04:25:27 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I am White. I am not Asian. I do not want to become Asian nor do I
want my children to have their right to cultural self determination be
annihilated by anti-white racism which seeks to force by power of
slanders and defamation's against us and our history to destroy our
right to exist and invoke hatred against us.
What exactly is the problem? What part of being white do you want to do,
and are being stopped from doing?

Australia is not overly Asianised. I live on the north side of Brisbane
and it's 100% white. Hobart is 100% white. So are many other parts of the
country. If you want to be white and eat only white food and consume only
white culture, you can do that easily in this country.

Australians are amoung the most mono-linguistic people in the world. Few
people study Asian languages. We are not being Asianised - your whiteness
is not threatened.
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-24 08:45:08 UTC
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Post by Mobutu
Australia is not overly Asianised. I live on the north side of Brisbane
and it's 100% white. Hobart is 100% white.
I doubt your statistical accuracy.
Post by Mobutu
So are many other parts of the
country. If you want to be white and eat only white food and consume only
white culture, you can do that easily in this country.
Australians are amoung the most mono-linguistic people in the world.
Because we are among the most isolated.
AntiMulticulture
2003-10-24 13:19:43 UTC
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Post by Mobutu
Post by The Enlightenment
I am White. I am not Asian. I do not want to become Asian nor do I
want my children to have their right to cultural self determination be
annihilated by anti-white racism which seeks to force by power of
slanders and defamation's against us and our history to destroy our
right to exist and invoke hatred against us.
What exactly is the problem? What part of being white do you want to do,
and are being stopped from doing?
Having our own space, like China, having a dominant host culture, like
Japan, having to be "multicultural" with everyone and anyone who wants to
turn up without the necessary compatability checks to assimilate & integrate
into our way of life unlike Saudi Arabia or Iran. Having to put up with
ethnic ghetto's and the ethnic industries that come with it chewing away at
our way of life, our culture and society.
Post by Mobutu
Australia is not overly Asianised.
Sydney is Asianised, Brisbane is Asianised, Perth is Asianised, Melbourne is
Asianised not to mention the other third world "multi-cultures" which
inhabit the same space....and this is where most people live....
Post by Mobutu
I live on the north side of Brisbane
and it's 100% white. Hobart is 100% white. So are many other parts of the
country.
How come you don't live in a "multicultural" suburb like Cabramatta
considering you think it is so good?
Post by Mobutu
If you want to be white and eat only white food and consume only
white culture, you can do that easily in this country.
What about if you wanted to start a pro-white, anti-multicultural political
party?
Post by Mobutu
Australians are amoung the most mono-linguistic people in the world.
Few people study Asian languages. We are not being Asianised - your
whiteness
Post by Mobutu
is not threatened.
Just have a walk around the inner-west of Sydney for a day, and when you are
done there try Bankstown, Auburn, Lakemba and Guildford then I challenge you
to tell me our way of life is not under threat....

--

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http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Union Against Multiculturalism
Moses Lim
2003-10-24 15:47:12 UTC
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Post by AntiMulticulture
Just have a walk around the inner-west of Sydney for a day, and when you are
done there try Bankstown, Auburn, Lakemba and Guildford then I challenge you
to tell me our way of life is not under threat....
quite simply, i m sorry to say that ur way of life is under threat only
becos right-minded ppl no longer subscribe to such narrow views of life
as u and ur mates want others to have ...

personally i don´t understand why anybody would wanna confine themselves
to such a small world ... but hey .. i never said i was a genius so i
guess that is gonna be a mystery to me ..
AntiMulticulture
2003-10-25 11:47:30 UTC
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Moses Lim <***@zeta.org.au_no_spam_pls> wrote in message
news:4Qbmb.163843
Post by Moses Lim
quite simply, i m sorry to say that ur way of life is under threat only
becos right-minded ppl no longer subscribe to such narrow views of life
as u and ur mates want others to have ...
Which narrow views would they be Moses?
Post by Moses Lim
personally i donŽt understand why anybody would wanna confine themselves
to such a small world ... but hey .. i never said i was a genius so i
guess that is gonna be a mystery to me ..
I don't know how China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Japan could confine
themselves to such a small world either....

--

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http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Union Against Multiculturalism
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-26 11:03:20 UTC
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Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Moses Lim
personally i donŽt understand why anybody would wanna confine themselves
to such a small world ... but hey .. i never said i was a genius so i
guess that is gonna be a mystery to me ..
I don't know how China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Japan could confine
themselves to such a small world either....
LOL... its an interestiong point to bring up considering that Australia is a
FUCKING COLONY! Honestly. You really think you'd be there at all if the
Brits hadn;t decided to send some rapists and murderers to an isolated
country? Those countries mentioned have a much much longer history than
white australia does. Thats why people go to Australia... higher standard of
living... more space... cleaner.... greener.. etc. You should be proud that
people want to go to Australia. Don;t start claiming it as a white country
with a rich white history that is being foresaken because you will just look
like an idiot.

--
~

"Standards are for pussies"

~
Post by AntiMulticulture
news:4Qbmb.163843
Post by Moses Lim
quite simply, i m sorry to say that ur way of life is under threat only
becos right-minded ppl no longer subscribe to such narrow views of life
as u and ur mates want others to have ...
Which narrow views would they be Moses?
--
JimB
http://www.geocities.com/UAM01
Union Against Multiculturalism
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-27 13:31:15 UTC
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Post by Aaron Matthews
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Moses Lim
personally i donŽt understand why anybody would wanna confine themselves
to such a small world ... but hey .. i never said i was a genius so i
guess that is gonna be a mystery to me ..
I don't know how China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Japan could confine
themselves to such a small world either....
LOL... its an interestiong point to bring up considering that Australia is a
FUCKING COLONY! Honestly. You really think you'd be there at all if the
Brits hadn;t decided to send some rapists and murderers to an isolated
country? Those countries mentioned have a much much longer history than
white australia does. Thats why people go to Australia... higher standard of
living... more space... cleaner.... greener.. etc. You should be proud that
people want to go to Australia. Don;t start claiming it as a white country
with a rich white history that is being foresaken because you will just look
like an idiot.
Maybe we should come over to New Zealand ?
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-28 10:42:27 UTC
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Post by Single Serving Kenton
Maybe we should come over to New Zealand ?
yeh... mi casa su casa...

i got a couch.

--
~

"Standards are for pussies"

~
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by Aaron Matthews
Post by AntiMulticulture
Post by Moses Lim
personally i donŽt understand why anybody would wanna confine themselves
to such a small world ... but hey .. i never said i was a genius so i
guess that is gonna be a mystery to me ..
I don't know how China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Japan could confine
themselves to such a small world either....
LOL... its an interestiong point to bring up considering that Australia is a
FUCKING COLONY! Honestly. You really think you'd be there at all if the
Brits hadn;t decided to send some rapists and murderers to an isolated
country? Those countries mentioned have a much much longer history than
white australia does. Thats why people go to Australia... higher standard of
living... more space... cleaner.... greener.. etc. You should be proud that
people want to go to Australia. Don;t start claiming it as a white country
with a rich white history that is being foresaken because you will just look
like an idiot.
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-28 13:30:16 UTC
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Post by Aaron Matthews
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Maybe we should come over to New Zealand ?
yeh... mi casa su casa...
i got a couch.
You've also got a hard on for Natalie Portman. I think I'll stay here.
Aaron Matthews
2003-10-29 05:16:57 UTC
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Post by Single Serving Kenton
Post by Aaron Matthews
Post by Single Serving Kenton
Maybe we should come over to New Zealand ?
yeh... mi casa su casa...
i got a couch.
You've also got a hard on for Natalie Portman. I think I'll stay here.
wuss


--
~

"Standards are for pussies"

~
Single Serving Kenton
2003-10-25 04:40:46 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by damnfine
<snip>
White isn't a culture. White isn't a race.
Whites most definetly ARE a race. Race denial is a form of racism
used very frequently against whites.
Yeah, by those pesky racist blacks I'm sure...
Post by The Enlightenment
Let me explain.
For instance IQ tests measure 6 components of congnitive ability.
Broadly 3 in the visual spatial areas and 3 in the lingusitic logical
area. Consistantly the weighting of these components shows a racial
correlation. Even after adoption into European familes Korean and
other East Asian Children show a visual spatial bias. 3rd generation
and older Americans of Asian racial ancestry also show the bias. Its
the same with Blacks but who also for instance have 22% higher
testosterone.
I realise now that you couldn't possibly be racist, not when you have
statistical proof to indicate that particular races are better than
others.
Kolu Koleff
2003-10-22 16:36:56 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions. It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
We made great cathedrals, beautiful still paintings, pocket watches,
steam engines, exquisite statues that are true to life, we discovered
and circumnavigated continents and mapped them so that we could
relably return, invented polyphonic music, wrote great poetry and
novels, invented laws that liberate men democratically.
Let the Asians be Asians, but let us be White Australians who accept
those of other races who happen to find themselves here but leave it
at that.
Non English speaking peoples have come to Australia to escape the
hells on earth that their own cultures have created. They have gladly become
Australians and become active members of our thriving, tolerant and
successful society, happily adopting our beliefs. Under multiculturalism
separateness is promoted and immigrants are encouraged to retain the very
cultural values that created the hell that they came to Australia to escape.
Post by The Enlightenment
May great suffering deservedly befall those who seek to have us perish
or become small and disempowered like the Kurds by sleep walking us to
ethnocide and reviling us with defamations.
Su Solomon
2003-10-23 06:36:05 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?

Get over it Benighted, you are a wog like all the others.
Thurston Phoremost
2003-10-23 09:25:10 UTC
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Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
You mean, apart from bringing the abos from the Stone Age to the
Information Age in just over 200 years?

Abos would still be eating grubs and lizards and moths if it wasn't
for us white folks.

T.
Su Solomon
2003-10-23 11:57:31 UTC
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Post by Thurston Phoremost
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
You mean, apart from bringing the abos from the Stone Age to the
Information Age in just over 200 years?
Yair, just like poor old benighteds family in Eastern Europe, hell they
dont even have running water in the place he came from.
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Abos would still be eating grubs and lizards and moths if it wasn't
for us white folks.
Naw, they dont eat white folks like you, you taste toooo bitter.
Post by Thurston Phoremost
T.
Alan Peyton-Smith
2003-10-23 16:39:24 UTC
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Post by Su Solomon
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
You mean, apart from bringing the abos from the Stone Age to the
Information Age in just over 200 years?
Yair, just like poor old benighteds family in Eastern Europe, hell they
dont even have running water in the place he came from.
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Abos would still be eating grubs and lizards and moths if it wasn't
for us white folks.
Naw, they dont eat white folks like you, you taste toooo bitter.
You must have two dicks. You don't get that silly just by pulling one.

T.
John Iser
2003-10-24 18:31:13 UTC
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[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]

"Alan Peyton-Smith" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<***@news.comindico.com.au>:

So I guess I don't get to ask "are you now, or have you ever been,
Alan Prattling-Twit" again then, Thrusty (I mean - Alan)?
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For relative newcomers to aus.pol:
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for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Alan Peyton-Smith
2003-10-25 11:28:22 UTC
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Post by John Iser
[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]
So I guess I don't get to ask "are you now, or have you ever been,
Alan Prattling-Twit" again then, Thrusty (I mean - Alan)?
John, please feel free to continue to ask all you like!


T. or not T. That is the question.

And you can also be white and bigoted too, if that "floats yer boat". Works
for me! :)

T.
John Iser
2003-10-25 14:47:20 UTC
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Post by Alan Peyton-Smith
Post by John Iser
[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]
So I guess I don't get to ask "are you now, or have you ever been,
Alan Prattling-Twit" again then, Thrusty (I mean - Alan)?
John, please feel free to continue to ask all you like!
T. or not T. That is the question.
To express that in C code: 2BT | ~2BT /* that is not a condition */.
Post by Alan Peyton-Smith
And you can also be white and bigoted too, if that "floats yer boat". Works
for me! :)
I describe myself as a 'non-discriminating bigot'. That means I hate
everyone equally - regardless of race, creed, gender, sexuality and
all the rest of it. (:
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for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
John Iser
2003-10-27 15:20:02 UTC
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John Iser <***@cher.con.uk> wrote in message
<***@4ax.com>:
[-- 8< --]
Post by John Iser
To express that in C code: 2BT | ~2BT /* that is not a condition */.
...should of course read "(2BT | !2BT)" (which is always true, FWIW).

How about we substitute 2CG instead? http://www.twocowgarage.com/ (I'm
going outside to beat myself about the head with a straightened tilde
now. I may be gone for some time...)
--
28/09/03 Spontaneous doggerel inspired by junk mail
for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Thurston Phoremost
2003-10-27 20:58:51 UTC
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Post by John Iser
[-- 8< --]
Post by John Iser
To express that in C code: 2BT | ~2BT /* that is not a condition */.
...should of course read "(2BT | !2BT)"
Yes, I was wondering what posessed you to stick your tilde in there.

(which is always true, FWIW).
Post by John Iser
How about we substitute 2CG instead? http://www.twocowgarage.com/ (I'm
going outside to beat myself about the head with a straightened tilde
now. I may be gone for some time...)
Yes indeed, having read your website, it's clear to me that you spend
quite some time beating your straightened tilde. Not so much a website
as a cry for help, is it?

Speaking of your website, while I was reading it, I was listening to a
discussion on the radio about traffic cops who are more interested in
revenue raising than in saving lives. The discussion turned to how
coppers are reaping lots of money from the new laws which are designed
to slow down the traffic going past schools during school hours. I
thought, "Gee, this new law won't affect John Iser, he probably has
always driven slowly past school yards during school hours".

T.
John Iser
2003-10-29 03:14:18 UTC
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Post by Thurston Phoremost
Post by John Iser
[-- 8< --]
Post by John Iser
To express that in C code: 2BT | ~2BT /* that is not a condition */.
...should of course read "(2BT | !2BT)"
Yes, I was wondering what posessed you to stick your tilde in there.
Got my logical propositions mixed up with my C code. It's hard to tell
the difference sometimes.
Post by Thurston Phoremost
(which is always true, FWIW).
Post by John Iser
How about we substitute 2CG instead? http://www.twocowgarage.com/ (I'm
going outside to beat myself about the head with a straightened tilde
now. I may be gone for some time...)
Yes indeed, having read your website, it's clear to me that you spend
quite some time beating your straightened tilde. Not so much a website
as a cry for help, is it?
True (even if it's not "my" website). "Please call your friends and/or
bring them to a show. We need money in a bad way....we are broke. But
still content."

They're playing in Lawrence, Kansas on 11/14 (as the septics say).
That's the closest they'll get to Australia this year. Maybe I'll see
you there?
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Speaking of your website, while I was reading it, I was listening to a
discussion on the radio about traffic cops who are more interested in
revenue raising than in saving lives. The discussion turned to how
coppers are reaping lots of money from the new laws which are designed
to slow down the traffic going past schools during school hours. I
thought, "Gee, this new law won't affect John Iser, he probably has
always driven slowly past school yards during school hours".
The only schoolyard I pass by on a regular basis (on foot, these days)
is this one: http://www.as.edu.au/
"In 1897 TAS, as it is affectionately known, became a member of the
Association of Great Public Schools of NSW. Of the nine GPS schools,
TAS is the only one located outside the Sydney metropolitan area and,
like its brother schools, is sensitive to its traditions, its
academic, cultural and sporting standards and its role in preparing
students for leadership and service."

*baaaaarrrrffff* Besides its being snot-brat central of the town, my
meathead next-door neighbour works there as a groundsman. So the only
reason I'd drive slowly past it is if I was thinking about a drive-by
shooting. (Which reminds me: do you still have that rusty old .22?) (:
--
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for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Thurston Phoremost
2003-10-29 12:01:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Iser
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Post by John Iser
[-- 8< --]
Post by John Iser
To express that in C code: 2BT | ~2BT /* that is not a condition */.
...should of course read "(2BT | !2BT)"
Yes, I was wondering what posessed you to stick your tilde in there.
Got my logical propositions mixed up with my C code. It's hard to tell
the difference sometimes.
Post by Thurston Phoremost
(which is always true, FWIW).
Post by John Iser
How about we substitute 2CG instead? http://www.twocowgarage.com/ (I'm
going outside to beat myself about the head with a straightened tilde
now. I may be gone for some time...)
Yes indeed, having read your website, it's clear to me that you spend
quite some time beating your straightened tilde. Not so much a website
as a cry for help, is it?
True (even if it's not "my" website). "Please call your friends and/or
bring them to a show. We need money in a bad way....we are broke. But
still content."
No, dumdum, I was not referring to to the twocowgarage website, I was
referring to YOUR website at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jiser/ .

You know, the one with your picture on it? BTW, you never did tell me
what it was that your neighbours "dobbed you in" for, and to whom they
dobbed.
Post by John Iser
They're playing in Lawrence, Kansas on 11/14 (as the septics say).
That's the closest they'll get to Australia this year. Maybe I'll see
you there?
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Speaking of your website, while I was reading it, I was listening to a
discussion on the radio about traffic cops who are more interested in
revenue raising than in saving lives. The discussion turned to how
coppers are reaping lots of money from the new laws which are designed
to slow down the traffic going past schools during school hours. I
thought, "Gee, this new law won't affect John Iser, he probably has
always driven slowly past school yards during school hours".
The only schoolyard I pass by on a regular basis (on foot, these days)
is this one: http://www.as.edu.au/
"In 1897 TAS, as it is affectionately known, became a member of the
Association of Great Public Schools of NSW. Of the nine GPS schools,
TAS is the only one located outside the Sydney metropolitan area and,
like its brother schools, is sensitive to its traditions, its
academic, cultural and sporting standards and its role in preparing
students for leadership and service."
*baaaaarrrrffff* Besides its being snot-brat central of the town, my
meathead next-door neighbour works there as a groundsman. So the only
reason I'd drive slowly past it is if I was thinking about a drive-by
Huh? FYI, I do not now, nor have I ever owned, a "rusty old .22",
despite what you may have heard. And even if I did, I wouldn't lend it
to a mentally unstable highly medicated individual such as you! :)

T.

The Enlightenment
2003-10-23 09:40:20 UTC
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Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
Get over it Benighted, you are a wog like all the others.
I'm hardly from the Eastern Europe and only one of my parents is an
immigrant and she is from somewhere else. I am a pan European racial
activist which is why I will defend Germans, Swiss, Serbs, White Sth
Africans, Russians, Irish and English against anti-white defamation's;
most of which I can't help noticing (like a rhino in the living room)
seem to come from Jews.

Remember Su, you picked a fight with us, we had no problem with you
lot. If the jewsih defense league needed to stop anti-semsitism
they'd only have to assasinate one person: you! you flippin
inflamatory idiot.

Why don't you go to Israel? You have a right of return? Then you
won't have any duel loyalties to worry about anymore. They are
however busily expelling illegal immigrants and tightening up
immigration laws along blood lines to ensure their survival even as
they are expelling more Palestinians.

Or don't you have the stomach for having bulldozing of peoples olive
groves on their behalf?

Su, so take the multicrapism you want to use to minoritise us and
stick it up your jumpa.
Su Solomon
2003-10-23 11:53:50 UTC
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Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
Get over it Benighted, you are a wog like all the others.
I'm hardly from the Eastern Europe
Liar!

You have claimed that you are a migrant from Eastern Europe.

And we all know that English is NOT your first language
Post by The Enlightenment
and only one of my parents is an
immigrant and she is from somewhere else.
Swaziland?
Post by The Enlightenment
I am a pan European racial
activist
Naw, you are just a plain simple racist.
Post by The Enlightenment
which is why I will defend Germans, Swiss, Serbs, White Sth
Africans, Russians, Irish and English against anti-white defamation's;
Bullshit, there is no such thing as a 'white' - unless of course you are
an Albino from Albania.
Post by The Enlightenment
most of which I can't help noticing (like a rhino in the living room)
seem to come from Jews.
And you are an anti-semite as well.

LOL

Who would have known : )
Post by The Enlightenment
Remember Su, you picked a fight with us,
????????????????????

I had a 'go' at you on USENET, and you call it a fight?

Get real you facsist wog.
Post by The Enlightenment
we had no problem with you
lot.
You should not have come to Australia in that case, here, we are all:
"that lot", aussies.
Post by The Enlightenment
If the jewsih defense league needed to stop anti-semsitism
they'd only have to assasinate one person: you! you flippin
inflamatory idiot.
Is this supposed to scare or, heaven forbid, intimidate me?

LOL

You are as weak as piss.
Post by The Enlightenment
Why don't you go to Israel?
Why should I go to flaming Israel?

I am an Australian, my family has been here since the1840's.
Post by The Enlightenment
You have a right of return?
You seem to be under some illusion that my surname indicates an
affiliation that is merely in your imagination.

Same could be said for your piss weak nom de net: enlightnement, nothing
could be further from the truth. Benighted is more like it.
Post by The Enlightenment
Then you
won't have any duel loyalties to worry about anymore. They are
however busily expelling illegal immigrants and tightening up
immigration laws along blood lines to ensure their survival even as
they are expelling more Palestinians.
Like to run that again, in English?
Post by The Enlightenment
Or don't you have the stomach for having bulldozing of peoples olive
groves on their behalf?
Are you a Jew, oh Benighted One?
Post by The Enlightenment
Su, so take the multicrapism you want to use to minoritise us
Whether you like it or not, Australia is multicultural, and has been
long before you migrated here.
Post by The Enlightenment
and
stick it up your jumpa.
Sweetheart, its jumper.


LOL

Poor bloody wog, cant even speaka da English.
Rakali
2003-10-23 13:26:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
Get over it Benighted, you are a wog like all the others.
I'm hardly from the Eastern Europe
Liar!
"the" Eastern Europe...? Is he trying to weasel out of this on a grammatical
error?

Su, baby, looks like you've picked a live one. Shame it isn't intellectually
enabled. Just "elightened" as to how to post to usenet on Daddy's account.
Post by Su Solomon
You have claimed that you are a migrant from Eastern Europe.
And we all know that English is NOT your first language
Post by The Enlightenment
and only one of my parents is an
immigrant and she is from somewhere else.
Swaziland?
Rhodesia ;-)
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I am a pan European racial
activist
Naw, you are just a plain simple racist.
A very simple racist
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
which is why I will defend Germans, Swiss, Serbs, White Sth
Africans, Russians, Irish and English against anti-white defamation's;
Bullshit, there is no such thing as a 'white' - unless of course you are
an Albino from Albania.
Or a braindead redneck queenslander desperate to get a good look in with the
local Klan
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
most of which I can't help noticing (like a rhino in the living room)
seem to come from Jews.
And you are an anti-semite as well.
LOL
Who would have known : )
Well, maybe he's stumbled across a point. Who defends defamation based on
culturally interpreted us and them scenarios? Maybe one of his personalities is
beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable about constantly trying to lay blame for
his woebegotten life at the feet of others?
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Remember Su, you picked a fight with us,
????????????????????
I had a 'go' at you on USENET, and you call it a fight?
Get real you facsist wog.
Maybe one of his personalities is attempting to be?
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
we had no problem with you
lot.
"that lot", aussies.
Heh, the "no problem" is more likely denial. Blaming someone else for beginning
"the fight" in which he now finds himself embroiled.
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
If the jewsih defense league needed to stop anti-semsitism
they'd only have to assasinate one person: you! you flippin
inflamatory idiot.
Is this supposed to scare or, heaven forbid, intimidate me?
LOL
You are as weak as piss.
Post by The Enlightenment
Why don't you go to Israel?
Why should I go to flaming Israel?
Nice place to holiday. Plenty of history. Heh, he probably secretly dreams of
going there himself, being "introduced" to one of those ballsy, gun-toting
Hebrew chicks... but their uniforms don't quite cut it with the nazi fantasies.
Post by Su Solomon
I am an Australian, my family has been here since the1840's.
Post by The Enlightenment
You have a right of return?
You seem to be under some illusion that my surname indicates an
affiliation that is merely in your imagination.
Same could be said for your piss weak nom de net: enlightnement, nothing
could be further from the truth. Benighted is more like it.
Post by The Enlightenment
Then you
won't have any duel loyalties to worry about anymore. They are
however busily expelling illegal immigrants and tightening up
immigration laws along blood lines to ensure their survival even as
they are expelling more Palestinians.
Like to run that again, in English?
Duel loyalties... It's where you demand satisfaction over a percieved offence
against one or more of your personalities.
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Or don't you have the stomach for having bulldozing of peoples olive
groves on their behalf?
Are you a Jew, oh Benighted One?
Whatever he is, he has no grasp of English grammar.
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Su, so take the multicrapism you want to use to minoritise us
Whether you like it or not, Australia is multicultural, and has been
long before you migrated here.
Nah, it's the victim thing again. Whether it's multiculturalism or "sticking up
for the jooz" or being open minded or whatever, his problem is that he feels
some others are trying to "minoritise" him. Hence the banding together with
other "racial purists" and assorted slack-jawed inbred idiots trying to scrape
together any vestige of self worth by denigrating the easiest target, in this
case apparently the "yellow peril".
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
and
stick it up your jumpa.
Sweetheart, its jumper.
LOL
Poor bloody wog, cant even speaka da English.
Doubtful if he's any more lucid in his own language,.

Cheese, Rak
Su Solomon
2003-10-26 14:46:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
And ................................ what the hell has your Eastern
European migrant culture contributed to this fine land of Australia?
Get over it Benighted, you are a wog like all the others.
I'm hardly from the Eastern Europe
Liar!
"the" Eastern Europe...? Is he trying to weasel out of this on a grammatical
error?
I dont know where he learnt to speak/write English, but it sure as hell
wasnt from an Aussie.
Post by Rakali
Su, baby, looks like you've picked a live one.
Are you sure that the Benighted is 'alive'?
Post by Rakali
Shame it isn't intellectually
enabled. Just "elightened" as to how to post to usenet on Daddy's account.
Do robots have 'dads' ?
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
You have claimed that you are a migrant from Eastern Europe.
And we all know that English is NOT your first language
Post by The Enlightenment
and only one of my parents is an
immigrant and she is from somewhere else.
Swaziland?
Rhodesia ;-)
Swaziland sounds 'better' - dont go cruelling MY ad homs Rak : )
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
I am a pan European racial
activist
Naw, you are just a plain simple racist.
A very simple racist
Indeed
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
which is why I will defend Germans, Swiss, Serbs, White Sth
Africans, Russians, Irish and English against anti-white defamation's;
Bullshit, there is no such thing as a 'white' - unless of course you are
an Albino from Albania.
Or a braindead redneck queenslander desperate to get a good look in with the
local Klan
: )
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
most of which I can't help noticing (like a rhino in the living room)
seem to come from Jews.
And you are an anti-semite as well.
LOL
Who would have known : )
Well, maybe he's stumbled across a point. Who defends defamation based on
culturally interpreted us and them scenarios? Maybe one of his personalities is
beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable about constantly trying to lay blame for
his woebegotten life at the feet of others?
I guess it makes a change from demonising Muslims : (
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Remember Su, you picked a fight with us,
????????????????????
I had a 'go' at you on USENET, and you call it a fight?
Get real you facsist wog.
Maybe one of his personalities is attempting to be?
A personality?

C'mon Rak, I am sure you have known fine rats with better personalities
then his attempts at multiple personas ;)
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
we had no problem with you
lot.
"that lot", aussies.
Heh, the "no problem" is more likely denial. Blaming someone else for beginning
"the fight" in which he now finds himself embroiled.
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
If the jewsih defense league needed to stop anti-semsitism
they'd only have to assasinate one person: you! you flippin
inflamatory idiot.
Is this supposed to scare or, heaven forbid, intimidate me?
LOL
You are as weak as piss.
Post by The Enlightenment
Why don't you go to Israel?
Why should I go to flaming Israel?
Nice place to holiday. Plenty of history. Heh, he probably secretly dreams of
going there himself, being "introduced" to one of those ballsy, gun-toting
Hebrew chicks... but their uniforms don't quite cut it with the nazi fantasies.
Wanna bet?
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
I am an Australian, my family has been here since the1840's.
Post by The Enlightenment
You have a right of return?
You seem to be under some illusion that my surname indicates an
affiliation that is merely in your imagination.
Same could be said for your piss weak nom de net: enlightnement, nothing
could be further from the truth. Benighted is more like it.
Post by The Enlightenment
Then you
won't have any duel loyalties to worry about anymore. They are
however busily expelling illegal immigrants and tightening up
immigration laws along blood lines to ensure their survival even as
they are expelling more Palestinians.
Like to run that again, in English?
Duel loyalties... It's where you demand satisfaction over a percieved offence
against one or more of your personalities.
LOL
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Or don't you have the stomach for having bulldozing of peoples olive
groves on their behalf?
Are you a Jew, oh Benighted One?
Whatever he is, he has no grasp of English grammar.
Yeah, his English usage is a sure give away.
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
Su, so take the multicrapism you want to use to minoritise us
Whether you like it or not, Australia is multicultural, and has been
long before you migrated here.
Nah, it's the victim thing again. Whether it's multiculturalism or "sticking up
for the jooz" or being open minded or whatever, his problem is that he feels
some others are trying to "minoritise" him. Hence the banding together with
other "racial purists" and assorted slack-jawed inbred idiots trying to scrape
together any vestige of self worth by denigrating the easiest target, in this
case apparently the "yellow peril".
He has multiple 'coloured' and religious 'perils', I often wonder if
there is any grouping of humans that he doesnt hate- except the "WHITES"
(whoever they are) ; )
Post by Rakali
Post by Su Solomon
Post by The Enlightenment
and
stick it up your jumpa.
Sweetheart, its jumper.
LOL
Poor bloody wog, cant even speaka da English.
Doubtful if he's any more lucid in his own language,.
Cheers,

Su
Post by Rakali
Cheese, Rak
John Iser
2003-10-24 18:31:14 UTC
Permalink
[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]
[-- 8< --]
Post by Su Solomon
Post by damnfine
Then you
won't have any duel loyalties to worry about anymore. They are
however busily expelling illegal immigrants and tightening up
immigration laws along blood lines to ensure their survival even as
they are expelling more Palestinians.
Like to run that again, in English?
Babel Fish to the rescue. http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
I translated this from English into German, from German into French,
then from French back into English:

"Then, you should not of fidelities of duel ensure approximately him
more. They involve however employ far from Immigranten invalids and of
Immigrationgesetze more palaestinenser wegtreiben along the lines of
blood tighten, to guarantee to survive to them, even like them."

Yep, makes more sense now. (:
--
28/09/03 Spontaneous doggerel inspired by junk mail
for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Su Solomon
2003-10-26 14:30:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Iser
[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]
[-- 8< --]
Post by Su Solomon
Post by damnfine
Then you
won't have any duel loyalties to worry about anymore. They are
however busily expelling illegal immigrants and tightening up
immigration laws along blood lines to ensure their survival even as
they are expelling more Palestinians.
Like to run that again, in English?
Babel Fish to the rescue. http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
I translated this from English into German, from German into French,
"Then, you should not of fidelities of duel ensure approximately him
more. They involve however employ far from Immigranten invalids and of
Immigrationgesetze more palaestinenser wegtreiben along the lines of
blood tighten, to guarantee to survive to them, even like them."
Probably makes more sense in Albanian : )

In truth, most of the Benighteds postings are probably better in
Albanian.
Post by John Iser
--
28/09/03 Spontaneous doggerel inspired by junk mail
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Throatwarbler Mangrove
2003-10-27 02:33:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Su Solomon
Post by John Iser
[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]
...
Post by Su Solomon
Post by John Iser
"Then, you should not of fidelities of duel ensure approximately him
more. They involve however employ far from Immigranten invalids and of
Immigrationgesetze more palaestinenser wegtreiben along the lines of
blood tighten, to guarantee to survive to them, even like them."
Probably makes more sense in Albanian : )
In truth, most of the Benighteds postings are probably better in
Albanian.
He makes more sense than either or both of you dimwits. :)

T.
Su Solomon
2003-10-27 10:00:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Throatwarbler Mangrove
Post by Su Solomon
Post by John Iser
[soc.culture.australian,aus.tv,aus.general spared]
...
Post by Su Solomon
Post by John Iser
"Then, you should not of fidelities of duel ensure approximately him
more. They involve however employ far from Immigranten invalids and of
Immigrationgesetze more palaestinenser wegtreiben along the lines of
blood tighten, to guarantee to survive to them, even like them."
Probably makes more sense in Albanian : )
In truth, most of the Benighteds postings are probably better in
Albanian.
He makes more sense than either or both of you dimwits. :)
T.
Ahhh, another Albanian
John Iser
2003-10-27 15:20:03 UTC
Permalink
[-- 8< --]
Post by Su Solomon
Post by Throatwarbler Mangrove
Post by Su Solomon
In truth, most of the Benighteds postings are probably better in
Albanian.
He makes more sense than either or both of you dimwits. :)
Hello again, Alan/Thurston/Raymond/Throatwarbler... How's Mt Isa this
time of year?
Post by Su Solomon
Ahhh, another Albanian
Actually he's a Yorkshireperson, but with that accent and the cloth
cap it's hard to tell the difference sometimes. "Ee bah goom lahd!" (:
--
28/09/03 Spontaneous doggerel inspired by junk mail
for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Thurston Phoremost
2003-10-27 20:35:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Iser
[-- 8< --]
Post by Su Solomon
Post by Throatwarbler Mangrove
Post by Su Solomon
In truth, most of the Benighteds postings are probably better in
Albanian.
He makes more sense than either or both of you dimwits. :)
Hello again, Alan/Thurston/Raymond/Throatwarbler...
Oh dear, I DO hope that this Mangrove person is not trying to pretend
to be me.
Post by John Iser
How's Mt Isa this
time of year?
Phew, just a bit tropical at the moment, mate! (Well, that is, I'd
imagine that the weather would be quite warmish up there at this time
of year.)

So, how's Funnyfarmidale at the moment?
Post by John Iser
Post by Su Solomon
Ahhh, another Albanian
Naughty Su, so how long have you been enjoying these albanian
fantasies of yours? Please, tell us more...
Post by John Iser
Actually he's a Yorkshireperson, but with that accent and the cloth
Eeee, ecky thoomp, another Yorkshire Puddin' eh? Bloody nora!

T.
John Iser
2003-10-29 03:14:17 UTC
Permalink
[-- 8< --]
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Post by John Iser
Hello again, Alan/Thurston/Raymond/Throatwarbler...
Oh dear, I DO hope that this Mangrove person is not trying to pretend
to be me.
Au contraire, Alain: you're pretending to be him...

Throatwarbler's post:
Message-ID: <***@news.dodo.com.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.220.191.118
(AKA dialup-118.191.220.203.acc01-camo-mti.comindico.com.au)

(Nice touch, using the antique version of Agent to post that message.)

Your post:
Message-ID: <***@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.220.190.8
(AKA dialup-8.190.220.203.acc01-camo-mti.comindico.com.au)

Now it's been established that 'mti' is Comindico's TLA for Mt Isa
(and 'camo' is their IVLA 4 Camooweal Street). So either you and he
are the same entity, or you and he post from the same town using the
same ISP. Applying Ockham's razor, we get... a nasty case of
septicaemia from cutting one's skin with a piece of steel that hasn't
been washed for several hundred years... or... worse...
Post by Thurston Phoremost
Post by John Iser
How's Mt Isa this
time of year?
Phew, just a bit tropical at the moment, mate! (Well, that is, I'd
imagine that the weather would be quite warmish up there at this time
of year.)
Given that your posts are emanating from Mt Isa I don't think you'd
Post by Thurston Phoremost
So, how's Funnyfarmidale at the moment?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! We haven't had a
race riot since, oh, September! And - I restrung my guitar early this
morning. (That's my equivalent of basketweaving.)
--
28/09/03 Spontaneous doggerel inspired by junk mail
for a business owned by someone named Docherty:
"Hickety dickety dockety,
We live in a fuckwitocracy."
Ken McVay, OBC
2003-10-24 15:18:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
Yes, you do, and if you understood it, you'd also understand you're not
"white," but an amalgam of genetic soup.
Post by The Enlightenment
It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
Monguls, Moguls, Gauls, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Picts & other assorted
Barbarians painted that "noble history" for you. Yawn... you're about as
"unique" as a grain of sand.
Hunter1
2003-10-24 17:52:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
Yes, you do, and if you understood it, you'd also understand you're not
"white," but an amalgam of genetic soup.
Much like every other "racial grouping" like Asians,
"blacks", etc. Funny how they're encouraged to have racial
pride though, yet white's are shunned when they do it. Yep,
there's racism around, pity is no-one seems to realise its'
true face.
The Enlightenment
2003-10-25 00:21:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hunter1
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
Yes, you do, and if you understood it, you'd also understand
you're not
Post by Hunter1
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
"white," but an amalgam of genetic soup.
Much like every other "racial grouping" like Asians,
"blacks", etc. Funny how they're encouraged to have racial
pride though, yet white's are shunned when they do it. Yep,
there's racism around, pity is no-one seems to realise its'
true face.
Note how McVay equates White Europeans right to maintain their ethnic
identiy as "dumb". Clearly a racist slur and clearly a double
standard.
Moses Lim
2003-10-25 02:10:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
Yes, you do, and if you understood it, you'd also understand you're not
"white," but an amalgam of genetic soup.
Much like every other "racial grouping" like Asians, "blacks", etc.
Funny how they're encouraged to have racial pride though, yet white's
don´t u worry ... whilst asian racists and black racists do exist ...
they r treated with the same contempt within their respective
communities by right-minded ppl :)
The Enlightenment
2003-10-25 00:16:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
Post by The Enlightenment
I have my own culture, history, art and traditions.
Yes, you do, and if you understood it, you'd also understand you're not
"white," but an amalgam of genetic soup.
This statement which is a form of "race denial" is a frequent form of
racism directed against Whites. I seeks to deny and muzzle White
people the right to speak from their unique cultural and historical
perspectives. This form of censorship, bias and biggotry is not
dienied to Blacks, Asians or for that matter Jews.

The term "White" refers to a race that covers some 50 different
ethnicities that share a common or similar ancestry. They share that
common ancestry becuase they were alomost completely and often
completley isolated by geography, distance and sometimes culture for
most of the 50,000 years that there has been human habitation in
Europe.

There is and overwhelming volume of recent science, both that based on
analysis of mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA which is passed down only from
mother to child) and confirmed by y chromosome data (the y-chromosome
is uniquely only passed down from father to son) that has allowed us
to track the fact that 80% of our DNA is of indigenous paleolithic
European origin and that furthermore that never more than 20% of that
of non paleolithic european origin is of neolithic middle eastern
origin.
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
Post by The Enlightenment
It is a noble,
courageous and beautiful history. No matter how hard they try to
vilify that history and that culture, to replace it with Hip Hop and
other prefab commercial imported monstrosities, to make us hate
ourselves and our heroes to discredit us: I we are still
bioculturaly unique.
Monguls, Moguls, Gauls, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Picts & other
assorted
Post by Ken McVay, OBC
Barbarians painted that "noble history" for you. Yawn... you're about as
"unique" as a grain of sand.
"Angles, Saxons, Normans" and if you like "Vikings, Swedes,
Norweigens, Jutes, Vandals, Frisians" are all Germanic.
Picts and Gauls are essentialy part of the same grouping and are our
very close and loved White brothers as are the Slaves of for instance
those the Baltic states and Russia and the Ukrain.

The genetic contribution of the Monguls is tiny, a fraction of a
fraction. Inpart the legacy of the mass rape, enslavement, sexual
slavery and subjegation of Eastern European women. Is this a form of
diversity you also celebrate?

*************

McVey, I note that you and your organisation are the distrubed bum
boys of the B'nai Bannana of the ADL which is an organisation that is
notorious for the pathological anti-white racism of its members who
might rightfully be called Jewish Supremacists.

As you are a Canadian would you mind taking you obnoxious self out of
Australian newsgroups that are irrelevant? We are discusing an issue
in Australia in which some people would like to make Australia an
Asian country. Promoting White ethnocide is you business in Canada
but it is not you business here.

*********************
Here are some of the Anti-White defamations comming out of the
organisation which you serve:

This is a passive-aggressive example of the negative stereotype that
young and old European Americans are not victims of hate speech or
hate crimes. Bay Area ADL leader Barbara H. Bergen expressed this
stereotype by letter to the San Francisco Chronicle printed on
3/18/98, a portion of which follows:

"Clearly, every minority group which has felt the pain and outrage of
bias-motivated violence needs to speak out to demand better attention
to and education about the problem of intolerance in our city and our
society."

Her limitation of pain and outrage to members of minority group
members is a mean restatement of the victimless majority stereotype.
Even though Barbara H. Bergen denies that European Americans are
victims of hate crimes, the California Attorney General tells another
story. His "Hate Crime In California 1999" report shows that no fewer
than 834 European American residents in California have been victims
of serious hate crimes from 1995 through 1999.

The argument that European Americans are not victimized by hate speech
and hate crimes is a pathological denial of the truth. European
American children and adults are frequently victimized by hate speech
and hate crimes. European Americans have a duty to speak out to demand
that European American victims of bias-motivated violence are
recognized and respected.

*****************
A northern California example of this stereotype was voiced in public
discourse in 1991 and 1992 by Anastasia Steinberg who was Hate Crimes
Coordinator for Santa Clara County and, at the same time, on the local
governing board of ADL. Ms. Steinberg stated the stereotype as
follows:

"The profile of the hate criminal is the white male between 19 and
26."

Her profile statement has become known to hate speech experts as
Steinberg's Lie. It was publicly discredited by a Japanese American
Deputy Police Chief of San Jose in September 1992 when he disclosed
the actual 1991 statistics for local hate crime suspects: there were
85 hate crimes in San Jose with a total of 91 suspects in 1991.
Contradicting Steinberg's Lie, only 22 of the suspects were European
Americans for a share of only 24% overall. This contrasts strongly
with the fact that European Americans made up about 45% of San Jose's
population at that time.

All national, statewide, county, and city statistics about the
commission of
hate crimes (as opposed to prosecution of hate crimes and publicity
about hate crimes) conclusively demonstrate that European Americans
perpetrate a smaller share of hate crimes than their share of the
population.

***************

You also play a "White-baiting canards" are statements that may be
true, half true, or false, but are retailed in such a way as to
embarrass and silence White people.

1) If a professor mentions some destructive effects of European
exploration in the Western Hemisphere without mentioning the lessons
that Europeans received in destruction at the hands of Mongols, Turks,
and Arabs for 700 years prior to, and simultaneously with, the great
European explorations in the 1400s, 1500s, and 1600s, that is a
white-baiting canard. In this instance, the canard lies in the refusal
to consider the prior and simultaneous context of the world situation
in order to white-bait about world history.

In your case you mention Moghuls and Monguls who left some small
genetic legacy to deny Whites the right to speak from a White voice.

Asian-based Mongol Invasions were a centuries-long series of
plundering and butchering crusades was by the Mongols of Asia and
lasted for 550 years in eastern and central Europe. Millions of
Europeans were slaughtered or sold at slave markets in Asia. These
invasions did not completely end until around 220 years ago (about the
time George Washington was President of the United States) when
Catherine the Great of Russia wiped out the Mongol-installed khanates
(kingdoms) on the Crimean Peninsula. Dozens of European principalities
and cities were destroyed by Mongol armies as they converted the
populated plains and river basins of eastern and central Europe into
grazing grounds for horses and cattle. This 550 year period would be
an excellent area for historical research from the point of view of
the indigenous European peoples. Unfortunately most studies are from
the point of view of the cruel invaders.

Asian-based Turkish Invasions A third centuries-long series of
marauding and vicious militaristic crusades into Europe was the Asian
Turkish jihads and slave-takings in central Europe for 500 years that
ended only about 85 years ago with the collapse of imperial Turkey
into its present boundaries. These crusades took the Turkish empire
all the way to the coast of Italy and the walls of Vienna. Millions of
Europeans were enslaved and sold at slave auctions in north Africa and
southwest Asia. This is an area that needs historical research and
documentation from the point of view of the European victims. One
depraved feature of the Turkish empire was an annual slave roundup
throughout the Slavic nations and as far north as the city walls of
Moscow and Warsaw. These were no simple, mercantile affairs like the
Asian Arab slave-taking expeditions into the east coast of Africa.
These were well-financed and state-run roundups of young Europeans
(and the murder of their parents in many cases), and they lasted for
400 years. There is nothing in European conduct toward any other
peoples or nations to compare with this systematic and centuries-long
depredation of central Europeans. The Turkish crusades put any
excesses of the papal crusades in southwest Asia in the shade.

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You also effectively make use of the "Passive Ethnicity Stereotype"
is that Europeans lack the right of self-designation and the right to
an ethnic voice. This is the passive ethnicity stereotype.

Whites of diverse European origins do have the right to decide what
label will be applied to them. Newspapers often seek to decide for
them, resulting in confusing and demeaning descriptions like white,
anglo, caucasian.

Ordinary Whites do have the right to speak out of their
continent-of-origin voice, just like members of all other groups.
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