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Cardinal George Pell will face trial on homosex-offense charges
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2018-05-02 19:56:47 UTC
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SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.

After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.

Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.

After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.

She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.

Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.

“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”

A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.

“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.

Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.

But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.

A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.

Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.

“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.

During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.

On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.

As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
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MattB
2018-05-03 18:19:18 UTC
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on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Patrick B
2018-05-03 18:42:30 UTC
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
MattB
2018-05-03 19:16:46 UTC
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on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
Patrick B
2018-05-03 21:35:52 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
R☼d
2018-05-03 23:14:30 UTC
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on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
I think so as well. It looks like a few scammers trying
to jump on the money train.
Patrick B
2018-05-04 12:15:54 UTC
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
I think so as well. It looks like a few scammers trying
to jump on the money train.
And I am really surprised that a bunch of "me-too's" haven't seen the
lawyers for their piece of the pie.
MattB
2018-05-04 04:29:51 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.


1 John 4:1

4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.

Matthew 7:21-23

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.

Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Patrick B
2018-05-04 12:21:09 UTC
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So your gift is prophesying.
As I said earlier:
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.

I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.

My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Of course God says it is a sin.
That is why you and yer dad are doomed.
MattB
2018-05-04 18:53:09 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Of course God says it is a sin.
That is why you and yer dad are doomed.
Maybe people should call Melissa and Christopher and ask them about
you Patrick. 8536
Patrick B
2018-05-04 20:20:19 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Huh?
I don't read all of rod's posts.
I never know if it is te "good" rod, or the "bad" rod.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Of course God says it is a sin.
That is why you and yer dad are doomed.
Maybe people should call Melissa and Christopher and ask them about
you Patrick. 8536
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
MattB
2018-05-04 20:32:48 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
In post Message-ID: <***@4ax.com> you
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Huh?
I don't read all of rod's posts.
I never know if it is te "good" rod, or the "bad" rod.
So you just stalk me?
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Of course God says it is a sin.
That is why you and yer dad are doomed.
Maybe people should call Melissa and Christopher and ask them about
you Patrick. 8536
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Maybe you are just defending yourself and your past actions?
Patrick B
2018-05-04 22:11:59 UTC
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Post by MattB
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Quote me.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Where is the lie?
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Huh?
I don't read all of rod's posts.
I never know if it is te "good" rod, or the "bad" rod.
So you just stalk me?
I answer your questions.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Maybe you are just defending yourself and your past actions?
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
MattB
2018-05-04 22:29:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Quote me.
It is the post. You just edited it out.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Where is the lie?
All three of them is a lie.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I and my Dad don't need defending should people call Melissa and
Christopher Kalt of Dayton, OH and see if you do?
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Huh?
I don't read all of rod's posts.
I never know if it is te "good" rod, or the "bad" rod.
So you just stalk me?
I answer your questions.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Maybe you are just defending yourself and your past actions?
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I and my Dad don't need defending should people call Melissa and
Christopher Kalt of Dayton, OH and see if you do?
Patrick B
2018-05-05 00:23:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Quote me.
It is the post. You just edited it out.
Quote me.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Where is the lie?
All three of them is a lie.
Where is the lie?
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I and my Dad don't need defending should people call Melissa and
Christopher Kalt of Dayton, OH and see if you do?
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Huh?
I don't read all of rod's posts.
I never know if it is te "good" rod, or the "bad" rod.
So you just stalk me?
I answer your questions.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Maybe you are just defending yourself and your past actions?
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I and my Dad don't need defending should people call Melissa and
Christopher Kalt of Dayton, OH and see if you do?
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
R☼d
2018-05-04 22:40:53 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?

And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?

Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?

I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...

and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
MattB
2018-05-04 22:56:03 UTC
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Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
R☼d
2018-05-04 23:57:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
MattB
2018-05-05 03:11:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
The manner of his replies is all the proof one needs.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Most people know what he is and those that support him.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
His lies and deceit of these post say it all.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
Maybe but do not ask me to ignore or cover such up.
R☼d
2018-05-05 11:36:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
The manner of his replies is all the proof one needs.
If that were true he would be shamed and shunned by other
catholics. Take notice of the fact that he isn't. The truth
is that you don't have any evidence, do you?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Most people know what he is and those that support him.
You don't have any evidence, do you?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
His lies and deceit of these post say it all.
Then you have said likewise about yourself with your
own testimony, Matt.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
Maybe but do not ask me to ignore or cover such up.
MattB
2018-05-05 18:25:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
The manner of his replies is all the proof one needs.
If that were true he would be shamed and shunned by other
catholics. Take notice of the fact that he isn't. The truth
is that you don't have any evidence, do you?
I'm not the one putting him on trail. If guilty hope they hang him.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Most people know what he is and those that support him.
You don't have any evidence, do you?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
His lies and deceit of these post say it all.
Then you have said likewise about yourself with your
own testimony, Matt.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
Maybe but do not ask me to ignore or cover such up.
R☼d
2018-05-05 23:12:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
The manner of his replies is all the proof one needs.
If that were true he would be shamed and shunned by other
catholics. Take notice of the fact that he isn't. The truth
is that you don't have any evidence, do you?
I'm not the one putting him on trail. If guilty hope they hang him.
But what will you say if they find him innocent?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Most people know what he is and those that support him.
You don't have any evidence, do you?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
His lies and deceit of these post say it all.
Then you have said likewise about yourself with your
own testimony, Matt.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
Maybe but do not ask me to ignore or cover such up.
MattB
2018-05-05 23:17:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
The manner of his replies is all the proof one needs.
If that were true he would be shamed and shunned by other
catholics. Take notice of the fact that he isn't. The truth
is that you don't have any evidence, do you?
I'm not the one putting him on trail. If guilty hope they hang him.
But what will you say if they find him innocent?
Then he will be released.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Most people know what he is and those that support him.
You don't have any evidence, do you?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
His lies and deceit of these post say it all.
Then you have said likewise about yourself with your
own testimony, Matt.
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
Maybe but do not ask me to ignore or cover such up.
R☼d
2018-05-05 23:33:25 UTC
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So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
Do you have the proof I requested?
The manner of his replies is all the proof one needs.
If that were true he would be shamed and shunned by other
catholics. Take notice of the fact that he isn't. The truth
is that you don't have any evidence, do you?
I'm not the one putting him on trail. If guilty hope they hang him.
But what will you say if they find him innocent?
Then he will be released.
And apologized to for labeling him as a pedophile in public
when the court found him innocent? How do you undo the destruction
of another mans reputation and life?
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Where is your proof that Duke and Patrick are defending pedophiles
and helping to cover up pedophilia?
Most people know what he is and those that support him.
You don't have any evidence, do you?
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
Post by R☼d
I get the impression that you want to kill anyone accused of
pedophilia immediately without a trial...
Can you provide ANY evidence of this?
Just as you can't provide evidence that Patrick and Duke are guilty of
defending pedophiles and helping to cover up pedophilia in the church.
His lies and deceit of these post say it all.
Then you have said likewise about yourself with your
own testimony, Matt.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
and that is blind hatred with only one cause...evil having
taken root in your heart.
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
All humankind has some evil in them or they would not sin
Maybe but do not ask me to ignore or cover such up.
R☼d
2018-05-04 23:58:59 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Do you hate evil?
MattB
2018-05-05 03:11:57 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Do you hate evil?
That is a tricky question.
R☼d
2018-05-05 23:30:01 UTC
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Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Do you hate evil?
That is a tricky question.
I already have your answer Matt. Thank you.
MattB
2018-05-06 02:45:57 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Do you hate evil?
That is a tricky question.
I already have your answer Matt. Thank you.
OK Will you be commanding the earth to shake and the heavens to
open?
Patrick B
2018-05-06 11:12:31 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Do you hate evil?
That is a tricky question.
I already have your answer Matt. Thank you.
OK Will you be commanding the earth to shake and the heavens to
open?
+ What is wrong with you?
R☼d
2018-05-06 17:24:34 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
Patrick Barker did indeed try prophesying. So you were being
deceitful?
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
Just today you claimed I have or do work for Walmart and yet have in
the Past said it was Target or a cop. Yet none are true you lie to
defend pedophiles.
Post by Patrick B
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
That the best you have? How sad you need to defend pedophiles,
Why do you keep insisting that he is defending pedophiles? Can
you show me ONE sentence where Patrick of Duke have told you to
stop attacking pedophiles?
Why do you think he lies so much about me for? Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Post by R☼d
And why do you hate the catholic church so badly that you want
to tarnish their name forever?
No hate as I hate few things.
Do you hate evil?
That is a tricky question.
I already have your answer Matt. Thank you.
OK Will you be commanding the earth to shake and the heavens to
open?
Lol!
Patrick B
2018-05-05 00:29:36 UTC
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Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Why do you think of such a stupid thing?
Do you like to make shit up about EVERYTHING?

Grow up.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
But you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Post by MattB
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
Then stop defending larry.
Stop pretending you don't know of him.
MattB
2018-05-05 03:39:52 UTC
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Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
Patrick Barker Wrote:
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."

"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."

End quote

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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Do you think that is
telling me it is OK to despise Pedophiles and those that cover it up?
Why do you think of such a stupid thing?
Do you like to make shit up about EVERYTHING?
Grow up.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Nothing that I have seen Patrick or Duke say has ever defended
a pedophile, other than speaking out for their right to a fair
trial?
All have the right to a fair trail. I've never said they didn't.
But you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Do I as most the time all I do is post a current news article.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
Then stop defending larry.
Stop pretending you don't know of him.
I don't know him. Thought you claimed to have seen my school records
shouldn't you know I wasn't raised in Washington State? Did you
lie...again?
Patrick B
2018-05-05 13:03:23 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
But you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Do I as most the time all I do is post a current news article.
you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
Then stop defending larry.
Stop pretending you don't know of him.
I don't know him. Thought you claimed to have seen my school records
shouldn't you know I wasn't raised in Washington State? Did you
lie...again?
I saw the school you enrolled in.
I could not find any graduation record of you.
Thousands of other kids.
Just not you.
I wonder why?
Could it be that you never graduated from high school?

Why not tell the whole class the truth?
MattB
2018-05-05 19:17:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.

The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
But you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Do I as most the time all I do is post a current news article.
you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
I'm applying your standard of evidence. If they are not guilty let
them prove it.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Those that defend and cover up the rape of kids are evil to me.
Then stop defending larry.
Stop pretending you don't know of him.
I don't know him. Thought you claimed to have seen my school records
shouldn't you know I wasn't raised in Washington State? Did you
lie...again?
I saw the school you enrolled in.
Yet you have never posted it?
Post by Patrick B
I could not find any graduation record of you.
Now that is strange. What name did you use?
Post by Patrick B
Thousands of other kids.
Just not you.
I wonder why?
Could it be that you never graduated from high school?
Why not tell the whole class the truth?
Fact is how can you be sure it was me do you know how many Matt Brooks
are in the USA. You don't know my middle name. Face it Patrick
Barker you are a liar that lies to defend Pedophile Priests.
Patrick B
2018-05-05 20:05:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
Post by MattB
The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Why should I?
You know I have the truth.
And the only thing you have is denials.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
But you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Do I as most the time all I do is post a current news article.
you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
I'm applying your standard of evidence. If they are not guilty let
them prove it.
How do you prove you didn't grab some kid's balls 40 years ago?
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I saw the school you enrolled in.
Yet you have never posted it?
Post by Patrick B
I could not find any graduation record of you.
Now that is strange. What name did you use?
Yours. The same name I used when you enrolled.
The same name was that absent from the graduation rolls.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Thousands of other kids.
Just not you.
I wonder why?
Could it be that you never graduated from high school?
Why not tell the whole class the truth?
Fact is how can you be sure it was me do you know how many Matt Brooks
are in the USA. You don't know my middle name. Face it Patrick
Barker you are a liar that lies to defend Pedophile Priests.
How many matt brooks are there in Skaggit County where you live?
How many sons named matty lives close to larry?
You screwed up big time when you slipped and let us know where you
live. And you are still regretting it.
MattB
2018-05-05 20:22:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence. They just make a claim
Pell can't or won't provide a counter he dies. Simple.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Seems many now you defend pedophiles and yet have your supporters
people who are not Christians.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Why should I?
Why not. You want to play that game I'm all for it.
Post by Patrick B
You know I have the truth.
No you lie and so many know you are lying.
Post by Patrick B
And the only thing you have is denials.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
But you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
Do I as most the time all I do is post a current news article.
you have proclaimed them to be guilty every time you open your
yap. You are one sad puppy.
I'm applying your standard of evidence. If they are not guilty let
them prove it.
How do you prove you didn't grab some kid's balls 40 years ago?
Not my problem if they can't or won't they should be put to death is
your own standard Patrick Barker.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I saw the school you enrolled in.
Yet you have never posted it?
Post by Patrick B
I could not find any graduation record of you.
Now that is strange. What name did you use?
Yours. The same name I used when you enrolled.
The same name was that absent from the graduation rolls.
So you don't know. How stupid you can be LOL.
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Thousands of other kids.
Just not you.
I wonder why?
Could it be that you never graduated from high school?
Why not tell the whole class the truth?
Fact is how can you be sure it was me do you know how many Matt Brooks
are in the USA. You don't know my middle name. Face it Patrick
Barker you are a liar that lies to defend Pedophile Priests.
How many matt brooks are there in Skaggit County where you live?
At least 2.
Post by Patrick B
How many sons named matty lives close to larry?
Don't know as I don't know Larry.
Post by Patrick B
You screwed up big time when you slipped and let us know where you
live. And you are still regretting it.
Hate to tell you this reject that info was around long before you
tried to act like a moderator. Really doesn't matter. If you could
find them there are post that tell why I moved and even where in more
detail. They are even post that tell my middle name and yet you don't
know it. How stupid can you be. All the records you lie about seeing
would have it listed. You are so Catholic in your lies.

This is all you have to use to defend pedophile Priest and people like
you who IMO are also a Pedophile. Maybe you were raped at Great Falls
Central Catholic High School and liked it. Who knows.
Patrick B
2018-05-05 22:04:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
Post by MattB
They just make a claim
Pell can't or won't provide a counter he dies. Simple.
That is how it works sometimes.
Old people die.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Seems many now you defend pedophiles and yet have your supporters
people who are not Christians.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Why should I?
Why not. You want to play that game I'm all for it.
I've already provided the names and dates of the high school and
colleges that I graduated from.
Your turn.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
You know I have the truth.
No you lie and so many know you are lying.
You know I have the truth.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And the only thing you have is denials.
How do you prove you didn't grab some kid's balls 40 years ago?
Not my problem if they can't or won't they should be put to death is
your own standard Patrick Barker.
Speak English.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Fact is how can you be sure it was me do you know how many Matt Brooks
are in the USA. You don't know my middle name. Face it Patrick
Barker you are a liar that lies to defend Pedophile Priests.
How many matt brooks are there in Skaggit County where you live?
At least 2.
How funny.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
How many sons named matty lives close to larry?
Don't know as I don't know Larry.
He is your dad.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
You screwed up big time when you slipped and let us know where you
live. And you are still regretting it.
Hate to tell you this reject that info was around long before you
tried to act like a moderator. Really doesn't matter. If you could
find them there are post that tell why I moved and even where in more
detail. They are even post that tell my middle name and yet you don't
know it. How stupid can you be. All the records you lie about seeing
would have it listed. You are so Catholic in your lies.
This is all you have to use to defend pedophile Priest and people like
you who IMO are also a Pedophile. Maybe you were raped at Great Falls
Central Catholic High School and liked it. Who knows.
Are you done whining?
Now, how about telling the class.... the WHOLE truth.
You are a looser, and you can't put lipstick on a pig.
de chucka
2018-05-05 22:11:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed to
stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that there
is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is evidence to be
tested
Patrick B
2018-05-06 00:10:25 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed to
stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that there
is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is evidence to be
tested
How do I know?
Because some prosecutors go well beyond their limitations to make a
name for themselves. It has happened many times in the past. In case
you forget, a Philly DA convicted Mnsgr Lynn and later Lynn was
released due to false evidence.
Another Philly DA got some grand jury to indict the Philadelphia
diocese for keeping 37 active pedo priests in the ministry.
Of course this was also shown to be bull shit. Half of those priests
were dead. Another third was retired. A few had been defrocked.

They say the DA can indict a ham sandwich.

Wait and see.

Pell won't spend a day in jail.
de chucka
2018-05-06 01:56:11 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed to
stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that there
is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is evidence to be
tested
How do I know?
You don't
Post by Patrick B
Because some prosecutors go well beyond their limitations to make a
name for themselves. It has happened many times in the past. In case
you forget, a Philly DA convicted Mnsgr Lynn and later Lynn was
released due to false evidence.
Happening in Australia where we don't have elected prosecutors
Post by Patrick B
Another Philly DA got some grand jury to indict the Philadelphia
diocese for keeping 37 active pedo priests in the ministry.
Of course this was also shown to be bull shit. Half of those priests
were dead. Another third was retired. A few had been defrocked.
What about the rest of them. IIRC the diocese like your one was found
guilty and declared bankruptcy
Post by Patrick B
They say the DA can indict a ham sandwich.
Wait and see.
I shall unlike you
Post by Patrick B
Pell won't spend a day in jail.
Patrick B
2018-05-06 11:16:42 UTC
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Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed to
stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that there
is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is evidence to be
tested
How do I know?
You don't
+ Wait and see.
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
Because some prosecutors go well beyond their limitations to make a
name for themselves. It has happened many times in the past. In case
you forget, a Philly DA convicted Mnsgr Lynn and later Lynn was
released due to false evidence.
Happening in Australia where we don't have elected prosecutors
And it is not possible that they are TV hounds looking for praise and
glory? Kinda like the most dangerous thing in the world is to get
between Stormy Daniels' lawyer and a camera.
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
Another Philly DA got some grand jury to indict the Philadelphia
diocese for keeping 37 active pedo priests in the ministry.
Of course this was also shown to be bull shit. Half of those priests
were dead. Another third was retired. A few had been defrocked.
What about the rest of them. IIRC the diocese like your one was found
guilty and declared bankruptcy
What about them?
Admit what?
Of course I admit that some evil fag priests abused their position
and sexually abused children.
Of course I admit that bishops were dumbfounded as to what
they should do. Since most victims and families wanted to keep
the abuse quiet, the bishops looked for other solutions. They sought
advice from the leading shrinks of the day, and by God, they were
stupid enough to follow that advice. And because of this, the church
has paid out $ 3 Billion to the lawyers of the victims who came
forward 40 years after the fact.

Those bishops sent those offending evil fag priests to treatment
centers were they were "cured." Since the RCC is in the forgiveness
business, not the punishment business, they again made more
mistakes by believing the repentant evil fag priest was sorry for
his sins, and they allowed him to remain in the ministry.
I admit this was a bad decision on the part of the bishops

This is all fact. Of course I admit it.
The evil fag priests were bad. Of course I admit it.
The bishops were stupid and made the wrong choices. I admit that.

The fact is that YOU refuse to admit that perhaps the RCC
made its mistakes, admitted its mistakes, paid for those mistakes,
and has made positive corrective actions to prevent this from
ever happening again. No fag priest is now allowed in the ministry.
As soon as any priest is accused of misconduct, he is immediately
removed from the ministry. The bishops all have marching orders
to cooperate with civil authorities when it comes to this crime.

You don't want to let this go, because you have another agenda
against the RCC. You feel you were wronged by the RCC in some
way - perhaps because they informed you that YOU are totally
responsible for your bad decisions and your actions. You have
some sort of sin that you feel should be accepted by the church.
And you are pissed because the RCC refuses to let you off the hook.
What is your particular sin? Abortion? Divorce? Homosexual acts?
What is it?

Most Catholics were shocked when the crisis first came about.
They were disturbed, wary, and wanted explanations.
There were no good excuses. However, after studying the
problem, most Catholics have just come to realize that the
priests that they held so high on pedestals were merely humans.
And, the bishops were dumbstruck on how to handle the problem.
Most Catholics have now accepted the fact that mistakes were
made, poor decisions, and some hushing up to protect the
victims and accused. The bishops looked for quiet solutions,
and they found out that there aren't any.
Protocols have changed, and those same decisions will
never be made again.
Most Catholics are watching, praying and will remain vigilant.
The outsiders are still trying to raise mobs and start bonfires.
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
They say the DA can indict a ham sandwich.
Wait and see.
I shall unlike you
Post by Patrick B
Pell won't spend a day in jail.
de chucka
2018-05-06 20:13:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed to
stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that there
is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is evidence to be
tested
How do I know?
You don't
+ Wait and see.
Why don't you
Post by Patrick B
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
Because some prosecutors go well beyond their limitations to make a
name for themselves. It has happened many times in the past. In case
you forget, a Philly DA convicted Mnsgr Lynn and later Lynn was
released due to false evidence.
Happening in Australia where we don't have elected prosecutors
And it is not possible that they are TV hounds looking for praise and
glory?
Not under our system
Post by Patrick B
Kinda like the most dangerous thing in the world is to get
between Stormy Daniels' lawyer and a camera.
Well she's got her hush money
Post by Patrick B
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
Another Philly DA got some grand jury to indict the Philadelphia
diocese for keeping 37 active pedo priests in the ministry.
Of course this was also shown to be bull shit. Half of those priests
were dead. Another third was retired. A few had been defrocked.
What about the rest of them. IIRC the diocese like your one was found
guilty and declared bankruptcy
What about them?
They were guilty of covering up chil abuse
Post by Patrick B
Admit what?
Of course I admit that some evil fag priests abused their position
and sexually abused children.
Of course I admit that bishops were dumbfounded as to what
they should do. Since most victims and families wanted to keep
the abuse quiet, the bishops looked for other solutions. They sought
advice from the leading shrinks of the day, and by God, they were
stupid enough to follow that advice. And because of this, the church
has paid out $ 3 Billion to the lawyers of the victims who came
forward 40 years after the fact.
Great thing that it was held up for covering up criminal offences
Post by Patrick B
Those bishops sent those offending evil fag priests to treatment
centers were they were "cured." Since the RCC is in the forgiveness
business, not the punishment business, they again made more
mistakes by believing the repentant evil fag priest was sorry for
his sins, and they allowed him to remain in the ministry.
I admit this was a bad decision on the part of the bishops
This is all fact. Of course I admit it.
The evil fag priests were bad. Of course I admit it.
The bishops were stupid and made the wrong choices. I admit that.
The fact is that YOU refuse to admit that perhaps the RCC
made its mistakes, admitted its mistakes, paid for those mistakes,
and has made positive corrective actions to prevent this from
ever happening again. No fag priest is now allowed in the ministry.
As soon as any priest is accused of misconduct, he is immediately
removed from the ministry. The bishops all have marching orders
to cooperate with civil authorities when it comes to this crime.
good, the RCC was dragged kicking and screaming to this posistion
Post by Patrick B
You don't want to let this go, because you have another agenda
against the RCC.
No I am against all those organizations hat covered up criminal behavior

You feel you were wronged by the RCC in some
Post by Patrick B
way - perhaps because they informed you that YOU are totally
responsible for your bad decisions and your actions. You have
some sort of sin that you feel should be accepted by the church.
And you are pissed because the RCC refuses to let you off the hook.
What is your particular sin? Abortion? Divorce? Homosexual acts?
What is it?
I'm not Roman Catholic so don't give a stuff about their bizarre rules
Post by Patrick B
Most Catholics were shocked when the crisis first came about.
They were disturbed, wary, and wanted explanations.
There were no good excuses.
You've spent a long time making excuses as did he RCC

However, after studying the
Post by Patrick B
problem, most Catholics have just come to realize that the
priests that they held so high on pedestals were merely humans.
And, the bishops were dumbstruck on how to handle the problem.
Most Catholics have now accepted the fact that mistakes were
made, poor decisions, and some hushing up to protect the
victims and accused. The bishops looked for quiet solutions,
and they found out that there aren't any.
Protocols have changed, and those same decisions will
never be made again.
Most Catholics are watching, praying and will remain vigilant.
The outsiders are still trying to raise mobs and start bonfires.
Post by R☼d
Post by Patrick B
They say the DA can indict a ham sandwich.
Wait and see.
I shall unlike you
Post by Patrick B
Pell won't spend a day in jail.
Daniel60
2018-05-10 09:58:05 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 16:05:05 -0400, Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:17:50 -0800, MattB
On Sat, 05 May 2018 09:03:23 -0400, Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:40:53 -0500, R?d
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time
by providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we
all know you are afraid to provide real facts because
they can then be fact checked. And that little
procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker Quote
Patrick Barker Wrote: "That is not how it works. You made
a stupid claim. I call you on it. I call you a liar
because what you said is patently false." "It is up to
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by
providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know
you are afraid to provide real facts because they can then
be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused
of Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea. I thought of it. And since there
will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not guilty.
You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed
to stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that
there is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is
evidence to be tested
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.

By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s, so at least reducing the
amount of muttering!!
--
Daniel
Patrick B
2018-05-10 11:32:17 UTC
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Post by Daniel60
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
+ Excellent conclusion.
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s, so at least reducing the
amount of muttering!!
I'm sure there will be a lot of grandstanding, claims, and
unverifiable evidence that will be tried to be introduced, and when it
is dismissed, the rumors will continue.
Another example of the fake news folks trying to make a name for
themselves. Reminds me of Dan Rather, Keith Oberman, Cuomo, Trapper,
Rachel Maddow, etc.
de chucka
2018-05-10 20:30:27 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by Daniel60
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
+ Excellent conclusion.
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s, so at least reducing the
amount of muttering!!
I'm sure there will be a lot of grandstanding, claims, and
unverifiable evidence that will be tried to be introduced, and when it
is dismissed, the rumors will continue.
Another example of the fake news folks trying to make a name for
themselves. Reminds me of Dan Rather, Keith Oberman, Cuomo, Trapper,
Rachel Maddow, etc.
You seem to very quickly dismiss the possibility that he may be guilty
like so many others in the RCC, other churches and organizations. Good
that you got the 'fake news' excuse in early
Patrick B
2018-05-10 21:38:27 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by Daniel60
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
+ Excellent conclusion.
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s, so at least reducing the
amount of muttering!!
I'm sure there will be a lot of grandstanding, claims, and
unverifiable evidence that will be tried to be introduced, and when it
is dismissed, the rumors will continue.
Another example of the fake news folks trying to make a name for
themselves. Reminds me of Dan Rather, Keith Oberman, Cuomo, Trapper,
Rachel Maddow, etc.
You seem to very quickly dismiss the possibility that he may be guilty
like so many others in the RCC, other churches and organizations. Good
that you got the 'fake news' excuse in early
Not quickly.
The ausie punks have been grubbing about pell for years.
You whined that Pell was whisked out of the country.
He came back.
Now you are whining that no one takes you seriously.
de chucka
2018-05-10 21:53:53 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by Daniel60
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
+ Excellent conclusion.
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s, so at least reducing the
amount of muttering!!
I'm sure there will be a lot of grandstanding, claims, and
unverifiable evidence that will be tried to be introduced, and when it
is dismissed, the rumors will continue.
Another example of the fake news folks trying to make a name for
themselves. Reminds me of Dan Rather, Keith Oberman, Cuomo, Trapper,
Rachel Maddow, etc.
You seem to very quickly dismiss the possibility that he may be guilty
like so many others in the RCC, other churches and organizations. Good
that you got the 'fake news' excuse in early
Not quickly.
The ausie punks have been grubbing about pell for years.
Justice moves slowly sometimes
Post by Patrick B
You whined that Pell was whisked out of the country.
He came back.
Kicking and screaming
Post by Patrick B
Now you are whining that no one takes you seriously.
Doesn't matter about me it is now up to the justice system which I have
faith in one way or the other

You on the other hand are getting your excuses in early. Given the
proven abuse and cover-up in the RCC, other churches and other
organization around the world your 'fake news' and other conspiracy
theories seem a bit strange
dolf
2018-05-10 21:54:37 UTC
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— IRISH CATHOLIC SAINT PATRICK’S PLAGUE —

“TREASON ONLY TREASON.
TO BE SURE, TO BE SURE.
THERE IS NO OTHER REASON.
LEPRECHAUN CAUSE SO PURE.

DOES CURSE OUR SOVEREIGN.
AND FELCH THE PAPAL ARSE.
SUCH LOVE WHICH YOU FEIGN.
AS JINGOISTIC PIOUS FARCE.”

TERROR @ 2238 HOURS ON 7 MAY 2017: “Lest we forget.”

DOLF @ 2259 HOURS ON 3 MAY 2018: "Disrespect?"

— TIME DIDN'T DENY —

“YE BE NOT
FORGOTTEN.
AS THEY ROT.
SOIL SODDEN.

WE REMEMBER.
OF VALOUR BORN.
FAITHFUL FOREVER.
ER EVE NOR MORN.”

[Centennial Anzac Day: 25 April 2018]

DOLF @ 2239 HOURS ON 7 MAY 2018: “No you are the soil sodden.

Because you did forget and will never be forgiven as that is the
photographic evidence made against your soul.”



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[IMAGES (REMOVAL OF ANZAC CENTENNIAL 2018 FLORAL TRIBUTE @ 0935 / 0942
HOURS ON 6 MAY 2018 AFTER 10 DAYS): In Memory of our SOLDIERS who fell in
the BOER War 1899 - 1902. FOUNDATION STONE laid by Walter Lyon 29th OCTOBER
1909.

‘THIS PLAQUE COMMEMORATES THE RE SITING OF THIS MEMORIAL FROM THE CORNER OF
RAYMOND AND MACALISTER STREETS TO ITS PRESENT SITE.

BOER WAR VETERAN MR G.E.T. KELLEY UNVEILED THE PLAQUE ON 25TH APRIL 1972’]

WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE AS REPRESENTED BY THE MARION ('CHERISHED MOTHER')
WASHERWOMAN STATUE ERECTED WITHIN VICTORIA PARK OPPOSITE ON SAINT PATRICK'S
DAY OF 17 MARCH 2017 IS THE TRADITIONAL VIEW OF THE ALTERNATIVE PYTHAGOREAN
HETEROS (binomial} UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARRIAGE / SOVEREIGN DYNAMIC AS THE
BASIS OF BOTH ROMAN CATHOLICISM AND GERMAN FASCIST IDENTITY AS THAT WHICH
DIFFERS FROM THE DAOist HOMOIOS (trinomial) VIEW OF HEAVEN / EARTH / SEA as
implicit to the laws and government of our COMMONWEALTH which is framed by
a CONTINENT.

— RACHEL WEEPING —

"*GORDON* IS MY ROCK,
I SO LOVE DILDO {[vulgar slang] a stupid or ridiculous person} GRANITE.
PEOPLE NOW CIRCLE THE BLOCK,
JUST TO LOOK AT JANET {God is merciful}."

YOUTUBE: "[OFFICIAL VIDEO] Bohemian Rhapsody – Pentatonix"



FALSE PROPAGANDA ABOUT ANZAC IDENTITY AND THE BOER WAR MEMORIAL
COMMEMORATIONS HELD ON *SUNDAY* AND NOT *SATURDAY* EVENTS:




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[IMAGES: @ (TOP LEFT) 1058 HOURS ON 17 MARCH 2017: FUNERAL RIGHTS AND
CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF A STATE AS PLAQUE INSTALLATION @ (TOP RIGHT) 1510
HOURS ON 8 JUNE 2017 {#413 as [#1, #30, #10, #300, #2, #70] = n. *GOD*
*OF* *OATH*, *ELIZABETH*; {

SEE ALSO 'HITLER'S TABLE TALK' COMMENCING FROM:

IDEA @235 ON MIDDAY OF 7TH JUNE 1942: MONARCHICAL TENDENCIES IN SPAIN
SUPPORTED BY THE CHURCH — SAME OLD TACTICS FOR THE SEIZING OF POWER / ... /
— INTER-ALLIED MILITARY COMMISSIONS IN 1925 — TREASON AMONG GERMANS — THE
EMIGRES OF 1933 — VIEWS ON THE CRIME OF TREASON — ALL TRAITORS SHOULD BE
SHOT — CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS — SETTLING WITH "BIBLE STUDENTS":

PAGE #515 - VISIT TO SPAIN IMPOSSIBLE;

SUPER (MALE) A-U-M HETEROS THEORY ON NUMBER IDEA: {OUTER: #8 - Worth of
Water, Easy By Nature; I-Ching: H48 - The Well, Welling; Tetra: 40 -
Law/Model / INNER: #3 - Political Prescriptions, Quietude; I-Ching: H46 -
Climbing, Moving/Pushing Upward, Ascending; Tetra: 8 - Opposition} #413 has
7 Categories:

#40, #90, #200, #10, #40, #1, #2, #30 = n. Egyptians' Meadow or Egyptians'
Mourning; #1, #10, #2, #400 = Female enemy; #1, #30, #10, #300, #2, #70 =
n. *GOD* *OF* *OATH*, *ELIZABETH*; #3, #2, #8, #400 = Bald forehead;
baldness or bare place on the right side of cloth; #7, #1, #400, #5 = This;
#7, #6, #200, #200 = To sneeze; #8, #400, #5 = To haste, to snatch up;
terror;

} / #383 as #3, #300, #80 = To stroke, caress; / #30, #300, #2, #6, #70, #5
= shebuw`ah (H7621): {#6 as #383} 1) *OATH*, *CURSE*; 1a) oath; 1a1)
attesting of innocence; 1a2) curse; 1b) oath (of Jehovah)

} BY A CONTRIVED SAINT ANDREWS CAUSE CÉLÈBRE IMPOSITION OBSERVED @ 1153
HOURS ON 10 JUNE 2017 (SHOWN BOTTOM LEFT / RIGHT) BEING MADE UPON THE BOER
WAR MEMORIAL AS THE ONLY SUBJECTIVE MEMORIAL OCCASION.

THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK, GIVEN WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCIL'S CLEAR AND
STUBBORN REFUSAL TO CLARIFY THEIR BELLICOSE JINGOIST CONDUCT, WHICH BEGAN
ON SATURDAY 8 OCTOBER 2016 AND SYDNEY GLBTI COMMUNITY MARDI GRAS ON
SATURDAY 4 MARCH 2017 AS THE INTENTIONED IMPOSING OF A SUBSTITUTED VIRTUE
UPON OUR ANZAC TRADITION:

IF IT WAS SO CLEARLY A NON SUBSTITUTED VIRTUE AND NOT A PERVERSION OF STATE
AUTHORITY AND SOVEREIGNTY YOU WOULD BE CAPABLE OF AN ANSWER FOR YOUR
ACTIONS, BUT ALAS I CAN FIND NO OTHER MEDIA REPORTS OF ANY SUCH TOWN HALL
ASSEMBLAGES FOR THAT GIVEN DATE—CAN YOU ASSIST IN THAT REGARD?

IT'S GOING TO COURT ON THE 12 APRIL, 2017]

GORDON (noun):
* from the marshes {#100 as #6, #1, #3, #40, #10, #40 = 'agam (H98): {#0 as
#44} 1) pool, troubled pool; 1a) troubled or muddy (gloomy) pools, marshes;
1b) any pool, pond; 1c) swamp reeds, reeds, rush(es)
* #46 as #40, #3, #2, #1 = gebe (H1360): {#4 as #6} 1) *cistern*, *pool*;
1a) *cistern*; 1b) *pool*, *marsh*;
* #46 as #6, #3, #7, #30 = gezel (H1499): {#5 as #40} 1) *robbery*,
*plunder*;
* s[c/k]eptic narcissistic swampy pool

The London Scottish (1900-1902) was a Volunteer infantry regiment of the
British Army. Formerly a regiment, the unit is now 'A' (London Scottish)
Company of the London Regiment and [this alleged tribute made by a foreign
power] is neither associated with the later Flanders field poppy of World
War I nor to the Australian Boer War as ANZAC troops to which the Shrine is
representative.

However as a matter of travesty over historical revisionism of our ANZAC
tradition as the forgotten of our war dead, the Boer War Day commemorates
the first war in which Australia fought as a nation. In 1899 NSW Lancers
were the first to join in this war followed by all of the other colonies
and after Federation in 1901 Australian units. *THE* *BOER* *WAR* *WAS*
*ALSO* *THE* *FIRST* *WAR* *IN* *WHICH* *AUSTRALIANS* *FOUGHT* *ALONGSIDE*
*NEW* *ZEALANDERS*. 31 May is the anniversary of the signing of the Treaty
of Vereeniging (PRON: Ver-en-ig-in) that ended the South African War in
1902. Boer War Day itself is held on the *SUNDAY* before 31 May to enable
working people to attend.

Material details of my defence against the APPLICATION AND SUMMONS FOR AN
INTERVENTION AND PERSONAL SAFETY ORDER made on 31 October 2017 as CASE
NUMEBR: H13018534 in being a direct reaction to my public and parting
comment of "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN FROM YOU FASCISTS" pertaining to my several
tactical carpe diem interjections made at local events of the RSL et al
{Catholic Sale College, Catholic representatives of Wellington Shire
Council} as pre-cursor to the Beersheba 100 year [commemorations]
accompanying earlier artistic deliberations over avoiding anti-semitic,
hymeneal {marriage}, procreational as fascist idealisation which is absent
of women's emancipation due to suffrage of 1902 and scientific discussion
on the specific subject of INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTUS v's JINGOISM
{MARRIAGE AS PIETY / FAMILY AND PROCREATION} relative to the Materia Prima
of Queen Victoria's Letter Patents as PRESENTS {ie. HEAVENLY (EPOURANIOS)
GIFT (DŌREA: a gratuity:—gift) [Hebrews 6:4-12]} instrumentation made to
the Federation of the Commonwealth of Australia.

Commensurate with our 100 year celebration of the BeerSheba campaign of the
Charge of the Light Horse Brigade as celebrations which occurred on 31
October 2017 and the issue is the partiality and prejudiced Memorial 'Lest
We Forget' Tributes comprising SEVEN {5 Wreaths and 2 Bouquets} floral
arrangements which were made during a ceremony presided over by the
Returned Service League as Public Authority and laid at only the World War
I and onwards Memorial Shrine for the War Dead upon the Saturday of 28
October 2017.

In the mistaken belief which was propagandised as the consideration that:
Battle of Beersheba 'should be the cornerstone of Australia's identity'

<http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/10/29/battle-beersheba-should-be-cornerstone-australias-identity>

ACCORDING TO MEDIA REPORTS OF LATER EVENTS OF 31 October 2017, a large
crowd gathered to commemorate the 100th Anniversary of the Beersheba
breakthrough in Israel. It was a very moving experience with excellent
speeches by Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, Australian Prime
Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, and the Governor General of New Zealand, Dame
Patsy Reddy.

Describing the significance of the historical event, Benjamin Netanyahu
said:

Exactly 100 years ago brave Anzac Soldiers liberated Beersheba for the sons
and daughters of Abraham and opened the gateway for the Jewish people to
re-enter this stage of history… brave soldiers who are buried here played a
crucial role in defeating the Ottoman Empire, liberating the Holy Land and
ending 400 years of Ottoman rule in one great dash.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull added:

It did not create the state of Israel but enabled its creation...They
defied history. They made history and with their courage they fulfilled
history.

Immediately after the service, the dignitaries opened a new ANZAC museum
adjacent to the cemetery. Following this, the band led a parade of the
horses through the streets lined with thousands of flag-waving school
children, Israelis and overseas visitors. A contingent of aborigines
represented their forefathers who served in the ANZAC troops and were
enthusiastically welcomed and honoured by the crowds.

The official party then drove up to Tel Be’er Sheva where there was a New
Zealand commemoration and a new monument was opened to remember the
soldiers who fought to capture this strategic, ancient TEL.

Almost at the exact time of the charge, the re-enactment ceremony began
[*WITH* *THE* *ADDITIONAL* *INCLUSION* *OF* *THE* *ISRAELI* *FLAG*]. The
100 horses walked the distance ‘in peace’ for the Prime Ministers, followed
shortly after by a gallop from a smaller group, much to the delight of the
thousands who filled the stands.
[<http://beersheba100.com.au/events/israel.html>]

Let me explain that to you in relation to public advice given to our Prime
Minister [the Honourable Malcolm Turnbull] with whom I have previously
corresponded over Jewish Holocaust issues and he had the self same day
taken suitable action, who is later today [31 October 2017] to sign an
agreement with Israel:

No the Boer War is the cornerstone of Australian identity as ethos of
"OBEDIENT, AIDING AND ASSISTING" and we reject CATEGORICALLY your
unreasoned disloyalty by INTELLECTUAL assent given to Foreign Powers {ie.
especially Irish, Scottish, RSL / Freemasonry / Roman Catholic [by] Saint
Andrews Cause Célèbre} as all unconscionable attempts to impose a
substituted ethic @5 against the INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTUS
whether by NEGLECT or forced WILL upon our War Dead and to usurp @1 the
Sovereignty embodied within the Governor General as ANTHROPIC COSMOLOGICAL
PRINCIPLE.

In accordance with this pre-eminent value statement which was heartedly
adopted by the participants within that public ceremony which occurred
within the State of Israel, compliant with the 500 year anniversary of
Martin Luthers nailed #95 treatise which commenced the Protestant
Reformation and the [centenary to the] Balfour Declaration [occurring] 2
November 2017, I had upon Saturday of 28 October 2017 immediately removed
FOUR {3 Wreaths and 1 Bouquets} floral arrangements after th[is]
Remembrance Service made for the Beersheba Centenary and before the actual
events occurring within the State of Israel and doing so [entirely] without
neither authority nor notification given to [or by] another party.

I have thereafter maintained a photographic timeline of events and of
particular note is the regrettable circumstance, that although the THREE {2
Wreaths and 1 Bouquets} floral arrangements were removed from the main
Memorial Shrine, 82 Macalister Street, Sale upon the following Saturday 4
November 2017, they have remained in a dried {#368 = #6, #10, #2, #300,
#10, #40 as yabesh (H3002): {#3 as #312} 1) dry; 2) dried} state at the
Boer War Memorial situated on the corner of York Street / Foster Street by
the time the COURT ORDERS were made in the matter @ 1025 HOURS on 8
NOVEMBER 2017.

There are several legal issues involved with respects to [the] Saint
Andrews Cause Célèbre participated in by the representatives of the
Returned Service League as Public Authority and the nature of its
association to a FOREIGN POWER as a group named KNIGHTS TEMPLARS
INTERNATIONAL which formed within 2015 and comprises various: RELIGIONS /
STATES / MILITARY / ORGANISATIONS / INSTITUTIONS as unconscionable attempts
made by them to impose a substituted ethic @5 against the INTELLECTUS AS
GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTUS whether by NEGLECT or forced WILL upon our War Dead
and to usurp @1 the Sovereignty embodied within the Governor General as
ANTHROPIC COSMOLOGICAL PRINCIPLE.

Such a statement of value [as demonstrated by the inclusion of the State of
Israel's flag amongst the calvary of cavalry as 100 year anniversary
re-enactment of the Battle of Beersheba] is a priori, not mantric as dogma,
requires no apologetics and proffers the utmost tactical, endearing and
enduring advantage for posterity as prosperity...

#1 - Captain James Cook wrote in a journal on 22 August 1770 of his
discovery as the east coast of Australia: "[Since I] may land no more upon
this eastern coast of New Holland, and on the western side I can make no
new discovery the honour of which belongs to the Dutch navigators and as
such they may lay claim to it as their property."

#2 - Solar Eclipse: 21 August 1914 [During World War I: 28 July 1914 to 11
November 1918]

#3 - Refusal of Communion and Solar Eclipse: I have ascertained in
accordance with my deliberate protest of conscience and arrest made upon
Saturday 21 August 1999 and earlier evidence which was tendered at the
extra-ordinary Victorian Civil Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) hearing of 7
December 2001, that the Roman Catholic refusal of communion perpetuated by
then Archbishop George PELL at Saint Patricks Cathedral Melbourne upon
according to their ecclesiastic traditions Pentecost Sunday of 31 May 1998
and 21 June 2000 is then associated to an eclipse occurring upon the
following year of 21 June 2001.

#4 - Solar Eclipse: 21 (UTC) / 22 August 2017 (AEST)

This suspected eclipse treason {#41, #320, @1 / @5, and #308} plot as Saint
Andrews / {Sino-Vietnamese: NIHN} cause célèbre sedition perpetuated by
Vietnam Veterans / Returned Services League {RSL} / Freemasons {Knights
Templar International} / Roman Catholic Church et al religious / state /
organisation entities has been foiled.

All too often the dialogue about our Australia Day celebrations of 26
January 2016 is historical revisionist, racially prejudiced and with
genocidal ambitions (ie. willing us dead) against any 400 year entitlement
of Indigenous Dutch Australians as their Sovereign claim to an earlier
discovery of Australia acknowledged by Captain James Cook as diary entry
made of his visitation on 22 August, 1770 as having occurred on 26 October
1616 AO and an immutably in defining the INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTIS
which is sustained by seven Papal Bulls as edicts made upon the Knights
Templars as my heritage.

It is noted that the THAT GOVERNOR GENERAL PETER COSGROVE WAS IN 2013
CONFERRED WITH THE KNIGHTHOOD OF THE GRAND CROSS OF THE ORDER OF ST GREGORY
THE GREAT BY CARDINAL PELL ON 7 FEBRUARY 2013 AND IS THEREFORE COMPROMISED
WITHIN HIS OFFICE AS GOVERNOR GENERAL AND THE SUBSTANTIAL CAUSE FOR THE
IMPEDIMENT TO ANY OBTAINMENT OF JUSTICE IN OUR PROVEN ALLEGATION OF TREASON
AGAINST THIS SAME ECCLESIASTIC as cause célebre associated with unlawful
foreign powers associated to eclipse cycles and earlier refusal of the
Eucharist Communion, which occurred at Saint Patricks Cathedral, East
Melbourne on the Pentecost Sunday Mass as the dates of 31 May, 1998 (*THE*
*PROXIMITY* *SUNDAY* *TO* *31ST* *MAY* *IS* *WHEN* *THE* *BOER* *MEMORIAL*
*OF* 1902 *OCCURS*) and 21 June, 2000.

Cardinal George Pell is guilty of Treason as per the photograph of myself
being evidence of our BOER WAR MEMORIAL DAY 31 May 1998 (refusal of
Communion on Pentecost Sunday) as crime by a substituted ethic imposed upon
our war dead and disloyalty towards our nation’s sovereignty.



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[IMAGE: Author consoling Catholic mother of a gay son & PFLAG President,
Nanette McGregor - The Rainbow Sash Protest (Refusal of Communion) on
'Pentecost Sunday' 31 May 1998, Saint Patrick's Cathedral, Melbourne
pictured by The Australian newspaper (front page) of 1 June 1998

(c) 1 June 1998 - James Croucher (photographer), News Ltd / Newspix,
Commercial Use, Internal Use For Company Or Organisation, Internal
Newsletter Or Document, Print And Digital, Up To 1,000]

Which indiscriminately and in presence of mercenary security guards, was
violently directed towards the self identity as the formula of autonomy of
any and all such persons (inclusive of mother, sons and daughters) who were
distinguished only by their fraternity in the wearing of the GLBTI
Community's symbol represented as a rainbow sash.

It’s such as the HETEROS binomial incommensurate irrationality being
descriptive of the enemy that the nation ought to be concerned about as I
have conveyed a mathematical fact in relation to our BOER / ANZAC tradition
which is logically sustainable by compliance with Immanuel Kant’s Critique
of Pure Reason published in 1781 / 1787.

The problem <http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html> is an issue of
PAIRING {DODECAHEDRON: HERITAGE & ENVIRONMENT / KIN SPIRITS as Cultural
values; community; gives area its collective identity: 5x5 = #65 (25) as
Esoteric Number #325}:

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #6, #300, #9, #10 / #119 as #60, #9, #10, #600 = suwt
(H7750): {#9 as #315 / #42 as #119} 1) to swerve, fall away; 2) to thrust
or force down, out, or away; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to swerve, fall away; 1a2)
those falling away (participle); 2a) subject to censorship or killfile
filtering; 2b) habitually exclude socially or ignore conversationally;

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #50, #5, #70, #200 = neos (G3501): {#18 as #325} 1)
recently born, *YOUNG*, youthful; 2) new;

Which occurs within the ANTHROPIC PROTOTYPE {ICOSAHEDRON: TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT / TRUTH FORCE as Maintaining an harmonious environment: 7x7 =
#175 (49)} as Esoteric Number: #1225}

ANGEL GENII CORRESPONDENCES TO MOON (#369 = DISCRIMINATING NORM (HUMAN
NATURE) AS ACT OF NATURE AND THE ORGANIZATION OF THE MYRIAD OR *NUMBER* OF
THINGS (WAN WU) OF SOCIETY AND NATURE)

#419 as [#6, #2, #5, #6, #400] = havvah (H1942): {#1 as #16 (*)
*INTERFERENCE* *MAPPED* *TO* *EGYPTIAN* *ANKH* / *ROMAN* *IMPERIAL*
*EMPIRE* *GOVERNANCE* *PROTOTYPE* #EIGHT: #120 / #360} 1) desire; 2) chasm
(fig. of destruction); 1a) desire (in bad sense); 2a) engulfing ruin,
destruction, calamity;

48 8 64
56 40 24
16 72 32 = #120 / #360 {#EIGHT}

<http://www.grapple369.com?idea:{120}&idea:{360}>

#8 (9) - KHATEL (Seraphim-Angels) = #8
#16 (8) - HAQMYAH (Cherubim-Angels) = #24
#24 (7) - HAHOUYAH (Throne-Angels) = #48
#32 (6) - OUSHRYAH (Dominion-Angels) = #80
#40 (5) - YEIZEL (Powers-Angels) = #120 <--- [*HITLER'S* *TABLE* *TALK*
IDEA @120 ON 24TH JANUARY 1942 (A FUTURE REFORMER OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM):
One day the English will realise that they've nothing to gain in Europe...
*IF* *THEY* *WANT* *TO* *SAVE* *NEW* *ZEALAND* *AND* *AUSTRALIA*, they
can't let India go.

The English have two possibilities : either to give up Europe and hold on
to the East, or vice versa. They can't bet on both tables. When it's a
matter of the richest country in the world (from the capitalist point of
view), one understands the importance of such a *DILEMMA* (NOTE: SEE ON
RELATIONSHIP TO A LEGAL LOGICAL SYLLOGISM AN EXPLANATION GIVEN WITHIN:

<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Pinocchio.pdf>

). It would be enough for them to be aware of it for everything to be
changed.

PAGE #609 (REVISITING BATTLEFIELDS): The *SOLDIER* *HAS* *A* *BOUNDLESS*
*AFFECTION* *FOR* *THE* *GROUND* *ON* *WHICH* *HE* *HAS* *SHED* *HIS*
*BLOOD*. IF WE COULD ARRANGE THE TRANSPORT, WE *SHOULD* *HAVE* *A*
*MILLION* *PEOPLE* *POURING* *INTO* *FRANCE* *TO* *REVISIT* *THE* *SCENES*
*OF* *THEIR* *FORMER* [*BOER* / *ANZAC*] *STRUGGLE*. [HITLER'S TABLE TALK
IDEA @120 / PAGE #609 (REVISITING BATTLEFIELDS)]

#48 (4) - MIHEL (Virtues-Angels) = #168
#56 (3) - PHOHEL (Principalities-Angels) = #224 {*MENS* *REA*: #334 as
[#40, #4, #200, #20, #10, #20, #40] = derek (H1870): {#1 as #224} 1) way,
road, distance, journey, manner; 1a) road, way, path; 1b) journey; 1c)
direction; 1d) manner, habit, way; 1e) of course of life (fig.); 1f) of
moral character (fig.)}

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[IMAGE: By week ending Saturday 8 April 2018 I had received one of these
special 1000 minted "TRUMP JEWISH TEMPLE" half shekel coins.

It is my intellectual property associated with the letters patent to the
Australian commonwealth which makes that entirely possible]

#224 as [#4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #70, #10] = dokimos (G1384): {#61 as #224}
1) accepted, particularly of coins and money; 2) accepted, pleasing,
acceptable

#64 (2) - MEHIEL (Archangels-Angels) = #288 as ANTI-SEMITISM: #364 as [#10,
#8, #200, #80, #6, #50, #10] = charaph (H2778): {#1 as #288 *INTERFERENCE*
*AS* *EVIDENCE* *OF* *ANTI*-*SEMITISM*} 1) to reproach, taunt, *BLASPHEME*,
defy, jeopardise, rail, upbraid; 2) (Qal) to *WINTER*, spend harvest time,
remain in harvest time; 3) (Niphal) to acquire, *BE* *BETROTHED*; 1a) (Qal)
*TO* *REPROACH*; 1b) (Piel) *TO* *REPROACH*, *DEFY*, *TAUNT*;

*BEERSHEBA* {*BEER* {a *WELL*: AUM #288 as [#8, #80, #200] = To cut in,
dig; to search out, *TO* *SPY*; to turn red (with shame); to be ashamed; a
hole; n. Blushing, Pit or *WELL*} *SHEBA* {*CAPTIVITY*; *OLD* *MAN*;
*REPOSE*; *OATH*}

#72 (1) - MOUMYAH (Angels-Angels) = #360

Within the metaphysical example below we have equivalent categories #432
that were obtained from a voluntary SMS dialog as temporal associations of
their choosing which conveys the propositional factoid of by their common
association that the propensity for violence increases where there is a
distinct lack of any truth content as a depreciated integrity between
persons:

#432 as [#5, #80, #10, #300, #10, #9, #8, #10]
#432 as [#40, #1, #300, #1, #10, #70, #10]

But we have here a different dialectic progression associated to the GNOMIC
IMPERATIVE instruction set whereby there is an opportunity to obverse any
*OSMOSIS* {ie. the process of gradual or unconscious assimilation between
ideas as it's interior knowledge} which are then conceptually the
intersections between our dispersed meta-descriptor prototypes and we need
to observe how frequent these are within inclusions of further vEVENTS and
then any subsequent COMMON THEME PROTOTYPES such as to know if your partner
is having an affair.

DOLF @ 1748 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017: "This category #432 as [#5, #80,
#10, #300, #10, #9, #8, #10] = epitithemi (G2007): {#10 as #472} 1) in the
active voice; 2) in the middle voice; 1a) to put or lay upon; 1b) to add
to; 2a) *TO* *HAVE* *PUT* *ON*, *BID* *TO* *BE* *LAID* *ON*; 2b) *TO* *LAY*
*OR* *THROW* *ONE'S* *SELF* *UPON*; 2c) *TO* *ATTACK* *ONE*, *TO* *MAKE*
*AN* *ASSAULT* *ON* *ONE*;

ASSAILMENT@{
#1: Sup: 5; Ego: 5,
#2: Sup: 4; Ego: 80,
#3: Sup: 14; Ego: 10,
#4: Sup: 71; Ego: 57,
#5: Sup: 81; Ego: 10,
#6: Sup: 9; Ego: 9,
#7: Sup: 17; Ego: 8,
#8: Sup: 27; Ego: 10,
Male: #228; Feme: #189
}

Tells me that you have loyalty and empathy with the person whom assaulted
me.

I warned you not to make any statement which would incriminate you.”

DOLF @ 1749 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017: "That’s all I need to know.

What a waste of time you are”

DOLF @ 1801 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017: "The lack of truth and waste of time
is conveyed by this category #432 as [#40, #1, #300, #1, #10, #70, #10] =
mataios (G3152): {#11 as #622} 1) *DEVOID* *OF* *FORCE*, *TRUTH*,
*SUCCESS*, *RESULT*; 2) *USELESS*, *OF* *NO* *PURPOSE*;

WORTHLESS@{
#1: Sup: 40; Ego: 40,
#2: Sup: 41; Ego: 1,
#3: Sup: 17; Ego: 57,
#4: Sup: 18; Ego: 1,
#5: Sup: 28; Ego: 10,
#6: Sup: 17; Ego: 70,
#7: Sup: 27; Ego: 10,
Male: #188; Feme: #189
}

There is never going to be forgiveness granted towards you: “But I will
forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath
power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." [Luke 12:5 (KJV)]

- dolf

A REVISION OF THIS DOCUMENT MAY BE OBTAINED AS A PDF DOCUMENT FROM THIS
URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Detrude.pdf>

Initial Post: 7 May 2017
Post by Patrick B
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by Daniel60
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
+ Excellent conclusion.
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s, so at least reducing the
amount of muttering!!
I'm sure there will be a lot of grandstanding, claims, and
unverifiable evidence that will be tried to be introduced, and when it
is dismissed, the rumors will continue.
Another example of the fake news folks trying to make a name for
themselves. Reminds me of Dan Rather, Keith Oberman, Cuomo, Trapper,
Rachel Maddow, etc.
You seem to very quickly dismiss the possibility that he may be guilty
like so many others in the RCC, other churches and organizations. Good
that you got the 'fake news' excuse in early
Not quickly.
The ausie punks have been grubbing about pell for years.
You whined that Pell was whisked out of the country.
He came back.
Now you are whining that no one takes you seriously.
--
YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus"



SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF
NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN*
*CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as
harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a
robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT*

Private “Saint Andrews” Street on the edge of the Central Business District
dated 16th May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as
a Notice of an Application for Planning Permit

<http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>

SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in 1993),
first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie.
Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory
of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven
visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis
[James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day
= #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the
64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather
than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the
macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial
canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER.

<http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>

The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines
a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is permissible to
extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS
REALITY OF HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL
REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] as
EXISTENCE.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip> (Download resources)

After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS
de chucka
2018-05-10 20:10:16 UTC
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Post by Daniel60
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 16:05:05 -0400, Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:17:50 -0800, MattB
On Sat, 05 May 2018 09:03:23 -0400, Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:40:53 -0500, R?d
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time
by providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd.  However, we
all know you are afraid to provide real facts because
they can then be fact checked. And that little
procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and you are a
big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker Quote Patrick
Barker Wrote: "That is not how it works. You made
a stupid claim. I call you on it. I call you a liar
because what you said is patently false." "It is up to
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by
providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd.  However, we all know
you are afraid to provide real facts because they can then
be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused
of Pedophilia.  Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea. I thought of it. And since there
will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not guilty.
You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed
to stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that
there is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is
evidence to be tested
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
WOW the conspiracy theory!! For what it's worth the Court figured that
there was a case to answer on some of the charges
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s
Judges? Not in Aus

, so at least reducing the
Post by Daniel60
amount of muttering!!
MattB
2018-05-10 20:33:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by de chucka
Post by Daniel60
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 16:05:05 -0400, Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:17:50 -0800, MattB
On Sat, 05 May 2018 09:03:23 -0400, Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:40:53 -0500, R?d
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time
by providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd.  However, we
all know you are afraid to provide real facts because
they can then be fact checked. And that little
procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and you are a
big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker Quote Patrick
Barker Wrote: "That is not how it works. You made
a stupid claim. I call you on it. I call you a liar
because what you said is patently false." "It is up to
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by
providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd.  However, we all know
you are afraid to provide real facts because they can then
be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused
of Pedophilia.  Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea. I thought of it. And since there
will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not guilty.
You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed
to stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that
there is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is
evidence to be tested
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
WOW the conspiracy theory!! For what it's worth the Court figured that
there was a case to answer on some of the charges
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s
Judges? Not in Aus
Should be interesting. Same kind of BS has happened in Chile and
Mexico now as well as Guam. That is only what has made international
news. Scary how long this might of been going on, maybe the RCC's
whole 1700 years being a Church?
Post by de chucka
, so at least reducing the
Post by Daniel60
amount of muttering!!
de chucka
2018-05-10 21:03:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by de chucka
Post by Daniel60
Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 16:05:05 -0400, Patrick B
On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:17:50 -0800, MattB
On Sat, 05 May 2018 09:03:23 -0400, Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
Post by Patrick B
On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:40:53 -0500, R?d
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time
by providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd.  However, we
all know you are afraid to provide real facts because
they can then be fact checked. And that little
procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and you are a
big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker Quote Patrick
Barker Wrote: "That is not how it works. You made
a stupid claim. I call you on it. I call you a liar
because what you said is patently false." "It is up to
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by
providing "YOUR" truth to the crowd.  However, we all know
you are afraid to provide real facts because they can then
be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused
of Pedophilia.  Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea. I thought of it. And since there
will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not guilty.
You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
How do you know?. There was enough evidence for him to be committed
to stand trial after the committal hearing. OK that only means that
there is a prospect for a guilty finding but it means there is
evidence to be tested
My suspicion, for what it's worth, is that both the Court *and* the RCC
figured that if the committal hearing had found that there was nothing
to answer for, the muttering behind closed doors or out of the sides of
people mouths would have continued unabated.
WOW the conspiracy theory!! For what it's worth the Court figured that
there was a case to answer on some of the charges
Post by Daniel60
By having the matter go to trial, everything will be laid out,
considered, and a finding of not guilty will be made, hopefully by a
jury but I'm expecting it to be by judge/s
Judges? Not in Aus
Should be interesting. Same kind of BS has happened in Chile and
Mexico now as well as Guam. That is only what has made international
news. Scary how long this might of been going on, maybe the RCC's
whole 1700 years being a Church?
As normal you are not making much sense In Aus a jury trial is normal in
these cases, a judge alone trial ( note judge not judges note trial not
appeal) can be opted for in some types of criminal trials not sure if
this is one
MattB
2018-05-05 23:16:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
Post by MattB
They just make a claim
Pell can't or won't provide a counter he dies. Simple.
That is how it works sometimes.
Old people die.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Seems many now you defend pedophiles and yet have your supporters
people who are not Christians.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Why should I?
Why not. You want to play that game I'm all for it.
I've already provided the names and dates of the high school and
colleges that I graduated from.
Your turn.
You have claimed to have seen them. Why would I need provide them
unless you lied...
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
You know I have the truth.
No you lie and so many know you are lying.
You know I have the truth.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And the only thing you have is denials.
How do you prove you didn't grab some kid's balls 40 years ago?
Not my problem if they can't or won't they should be put to death is
your own standard Patrick Barker.
Speak English.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Fact is how can you be sure it was me do you know how many Matt Brooks
are in the USA. You don't know my middle name. Face it Patrick
Barker you are a liar that lies to defend Pedophile Priests.
How many matt brooks are there in Skaggit County where you live?
At least 2.
How funny.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
How many sons named matty lives close to larry?
Don't know as I don't know Larry.
He is your dad.
ROFL
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
You screwed up big time when you slipped and let us know where you
live. And you are still regretting it.
Hate to tell you this reject that info was around long before you
tried to act like a moderator. Really doesn't matter. If you could
find them there are post that tell why I moved and even where in more
detail. They are even post that tell my middle name and yet you don't
know it. How stupid can you be. All the records you lie about seeing
would have it listed. You are so Catholic in your lies.
This is all you have to use to defend pedophile Priest and people like
you who IMO are also a Pedophile. Maybe you were raped at Great Falls
Central Catholic High School and liked it. Who knows.
Are you done whining?
Now, how about telling the class.... the WHOLE truth.
You are a looser, and you can't put lipstick on a pig.
Why would I put lipstick on Barbara?
Patrick B
2018-05-06 00:11:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
Post by MattB
They just make a claim
Pell can't or won't provide a counter he dies. Simple.
That is how it works sometimes.
Old people die.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Seems many now you defend pedophiles and yet have your supporters
people who are not Christians.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Why should I?
Why not. You want to play that game I'm all for it.
I've already provided the names and dates of the high school and
colleges that I graduated from.
Your turn.
You have claimed to have seen them. Why would I need provide them
unless you lied...
I didn't lie.
I said you never graduated from your high school graduating class.
And a GED is not the same thing.
MattB
2018-05-06 02:48:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Why do you think he lies so much about me for?
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
That isn't how it work according to Patrick Barker
Quote
"That is not how it works.
You made a stupid claim.
I call you on it.
I call you a liar because what you said is patently false."
"It is up to you to prove your stupid lie."
End quote
+ You do know that you can defend yourself at any time by providing
"YOUR" truth to the crowd. However, we all know you are afraid to
provide real facts because they can then be fact checked.
They should use this on Pell and all Catholic Priest accused of
Pedophilia. Good idea Patrick Barker.
Of course it is a good idea.
I thought of it.
And since there will be no evidence provided, Pell will be found not
guilty. You see, that is how it works.
By your method they don't need any evidence.
They don't have any eveidence.
Post by MattB
They just make a claim
Pell can't or won't provide a counter he dies. Simple.
That is how it works sometimes.
Old people die.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
The again you lie and those that aid you also lie to defend pedophile
priest.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Seems many now you defend pedophiles and yet have your supporters
people who are not Christians.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
And that little procedure would certainly prove that I am right, and
you are a big bunch of lies.
ROFL. You are funny. Tell you what you post all you have and I'll
post all I have.
Why should I?
Why not. You want to play that game I'm all for it.
I've already provided the names and dates of the high school and
colleges that I graduated from.
Your turn.
You have claimed to have seen them. Why would I need provide them
unless you lied...
I didn't lie.
I said you never graduated from your high school graduating class.
And a GED is not the same thing.
Yet you can provide no evidence? Not the State or name of the school?
Patrick you will lie to defend pedophiles is proven.
Patrick B
2018-05-06 11:17:40 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I said you never graduated from your high school graduating class.
And a GED is not the same thing.
Yet you can provide no evidence? Not the State or name of the school?
Patrick you will lie to defend pedophiles is proven.
'I do npt defend you, larry, or any pedophile.
R☼d
2018-05-04 21:55:45 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
You claim to be a prophet
I do?
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
and yet you have been caught lying and using
deception on these NGs? Is that what you think of Jesus? Do you
believe he lied for effect?
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit,
That is one of the reasons no one believes you, matty.
Good quote.
I do not have such a gift and unlike you have never claimed it.
Why do you lie?
God gave me many precious gifts.
Besides my wife, family, career, he gave me excellent common sense and
an intellect to know how to use it. It has served me well. And that
is why I thank God every single day.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven
Another great quote.
Thanks.
I guess you can teach and serve others.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me. To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
Another gift of my common sense lets me know you are whining again,
looking for some excuse to bash a Catholic.
I do not consider a Catholic any better than a scientologist, I go by
their actions not their Church.
And you want applause for this idea?
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
I don't need defending, my dad passed away over a decade ago and
didn't need defending. Patrick Barker you are a Pedo defender as your
deception and lies in doing so prove.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
My statement was that I do not believe there will be enough proof to
send a long standing bishop to prison. Most everyone knows this.
Too bad you don't have a lick of common sense.
Did Rod use a new set of terms for you LOL.
Huh?
I don't read all of rod's posts.
I never know if it is the "good" rod, or the "bad" rod.
Lol!
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Of course God says it is a sin.
That is why you and yer dad are doomed.
Maybe people should call Melissa and Christopher and ask them about
you Patrick. 8536
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
de chucka
2018-05-04 23:48:06 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Your God is one sick dude looking at the evil done in his name. BTW is
your diocese still bankrupt from all the sexual abuse claims?
Patrick B
2018-05-05 00:31:02 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Your God is one sick dude looking at the evil done in his name.
Jo mama.
Post by de chucka
BTW is
your diocese still bankrupt from all the sexual abuse claims?
Why would it be?
Oh, BTW, have your mom send us another check.
duke
2018-05-05 12:25:47 UTC
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Post by de chucka
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
So your gift is prophesying.
God gave me many precious gifts.
Your God is one sick dude looking at the evil done in his name. BTW is
your diocese still bankrupt from all the sexual abuse claims?
Let's face facts. You don't know God. Here's the stupidity: acts "done in
his name". Haahaahaa. Don't you mean "acts done in the name of satan"?

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Purpose of the NT Word of God is not to inform as it did in
the OT,but instead to form us in the very image of Jesus Christ.
*****
R☼d
2018-05-04 17:29:32 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.

So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.


Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.

The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

1 Ti 5:19

1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.

2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.

Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
MattB
2018-05-04 18:49:06 UTC
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Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
Patrick B
2018-05-04 20:22:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles
Stop trolling.
MattB
2018-05-04 20:37:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles
Stop trolling.
That what the kids say about you Patrick. Then they run.
Patrick B
2018-05-04 22:12:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles
Stop trolling.
That what the kids say about you Patrick. Then they run.
I do not defend you, your dad, or any pedophile.
R☼d
2018-05-04 21:19:29 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?

Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!

Why is it that you don't understand this?
MattB
2018-05-04 22:25:20 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.

Article says "Cardinal George Pell will face trial " You saying he is
above needing to go to a trail?

You need to read what I post not what pedo defender Patrick Barker
says I post.
R☼d
2018-05-04 23:07:30 UTC
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Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
Post by MattB
Article says "Cardinal George Pell will face trial " You saying he is
above needing to go to a trail?
Did I say that anywhere? Show me where I have even hinted at such
a thing.
Post by MattB
You need to read what I post not what pedo defender Patrick Barker
says I post.
I have read what you have said. You are convicting the Cardinal of
pedophilia without a trial.
dolf
2018-05-04 23:41:17 UTC
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Post by R☼d
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Post by MattB
On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
He hasn’t been convicted of treason either but that ought not prevent us
from calling his actions seditious...
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Article says "Cardinal George Pell will face trial " You saying he is
above needing to go to a trail?
Did I say that anywhere? Show me where I have even hinted at such
a thing.
Post by MattB
You need to read what I post not what pedo defender Patrick Barker
says I post.
I have read what you have said. You are convicting the Cardinal of
pedophilia without a trial.
— KARL MARX 200TH ANNIVERSARY: THE WORLD IS FINALLY READY FOR MARXISM AS
CAPITALISM REACHES THE TIPPING POINT

(c) 2018 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 5 May 2018

YOUSSEF EL-GINGIHY (THE INDEPENDENT) @ 2300 HOURS (BST) ON 4 MAY 2018: “The
philosopher Karl Marx (5 May 1818 - 14 March 1883) predicted that
centralisation would lead to revolution and give birth to a
post-capitalist society – globalisation has led us to that point.”

<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/karl-marx-anniversary-a8334241.html>

The following ideas on HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] were expressed {

G2089@{
   #1: Sup: 5; Ego: 5,
   #2: Sup: 62; Ego: 57,
   #3: Sup: 72; Ego: 10,
   Male: #139; Feme: #72
} // #315

#315 as [#5, #300, #10] = eti (G2089): {#14 as #315} 1) yet, still; 1a) of
time; 1a1) of a thing which went on formerly, whereas now a different state
of things exists or has begun to exist; 1a2) of a thing which continues at
present; 1a2a) even, now; 1a3) with negatives; 1a3a) no longer, no more;
1b) of degree and increase; 1b1) even, yet; 1b2) besides, more, further;

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   #1: Sup: 30; Ego: 30,
   #2: Sup: 70; Ego: 40,
   #3: Sup: 71; Ego: 1,
   #4: Sup: 30; Ego: 40,
   #5: Sup: 68; Ego: 38,
   Male: #269; Feme: #149
} // #311

#311 as [#30, #40, #1, #40, #200] = 'amar (Aramaic) (H560): {#2 as #241} 1)
(P'al) to say, to speak, to command, to tell, to relate;

} some 100 years (if not millennia) earlier than Karl Marx.

Nous: #8
Time: 05:35 hrs
Date: 2018.6.14
Torah: [#30, #1, #6]@{
#1: Sup: 30; Ego: 30,
#2: Sup: 31; Ego: 1,
#3: Sup: 37; Ego: 6,
Male: #98; Feme: #37
} // #37

Dao: Worth of Water, Easy By Nature
Tetra: #40 - Law/Model
I-Ching: H48 - The Well, Welling

Latin: Deprecabilis {Admirable God} Alt: Dambyah {Flowing Blood of God} {

1. AIDS REFRESHING NIGHT-TIME SLEEP, AGAINST SADNESS
2. THE HIGH SCIENCES, MARVELOUS DISCOVERIES
3. MUSICIANS, POETS, LITERATURE & PHILOSOPHY
4. Phuor
}
Serug {Branch, Layer; twining}

Transformative Prototype: *HOMOIOS* {#315 / #311} / HETEROS {#261 / #284}

<http://www.grapple369.com?time:5.37>

***@zen: 4, row: 3, col: 3, nous: 8 [Super: #315 / #24 - Important
Distinctions, Trouble from Indulgence; I-Ching: H5 - Waiting, Delay,
Attending, Waiting, Moistened, Arriving; Tetra: 18 - Waiting, Ego: #311 /
#8 - Worth of Water, Easy By Nature; I-Ching: H48 - The Well, Welling;
Tetra: 40 - Law/Model]

But what if the paradigm of thinking as Immanuel Kant (22 April 1724 – 12
February 1804) postulates within his Critique of Pure Reason (1781 / 1787)
as the trinomial mathematical theoretical noumenon was the basis of
governance?

I QUOTE: "In the third chapter of the "Analytic of Principles," on
phenomena and noumena, Kant in Critique of Pure Reason (1781 and second
edition 1787) emphasizes that because the categories must always be applied
to data provided by sensibility in order to provide cognition, and because
the data of sensibility are structured by the transcenden­tally ideal forms
of intuition, the categories give us knowledge only of things as they
appear with sensibility ("phenomena," literally "that which appears").

Although through pure understanding (nous in Greek) we may think of objects
independently of their being given in sensibil­ity, we can never cognize
them as such non-sensible entities ("noumena," literally "that which is
thought" as a subject of some 112 mentions). The meaning of Kant's use of
the term "phenomena" is self-evident, but the meaning of "noumena" is not,
since it literally means not "things as they are in­ dependently of
appearing to us" but something more like "things as they are understood by
pure thought." Yet Kant appears to deny that the human understanding can
comprehend things in the latter way."

<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/kant-first-critique-cambridge.pdf>

*THUS* *I* *AM* *PROFFERING* *AN* *INFORMED* *AND* *REASONED* *OPINION*
*AS* *THAT* *WHICH* *IMMANUEL* *KANT* *STATES* *IS* *AN* *IMPOSSIBILITY*
*FOR* *A* *HUMAN* *BEING* *TO* *ACCOMPLISH* *BY* *TRANSCENDENT*
*SAPIENTIAL* *THOUGHT* *AND* *CAPABLY* *DEMONSTRATE* *IT'S* *TEMPORAL*
*CONGRUENCE* *AS* *COHERENCE* *BY* *A* *MATHEMATICAL* *THEORETICAL*
*NOUMENON* *AS* *AN* *INTELLECTUAL* *PROPERTY* *WHICH* *IMMANUEL* *KANT*
*HIMSELF* *CALLS* *NOUMENA* *AS* *THE* *PROOF* *OF* *A* *VALID* *AND*
*RATIONAL* *CONCEPT* *ATTAINED* *BY* *PURE* *THOUGHT*.

FOR EXAMPLE:

Here is a poem written at 0857 hours that is directly associated by
temporal relativity to the noumena conveying two explicit CATEGORIES OF
UNDERSTANDING that whilst linguistically HEBREW / GREEK {ie. 24 x 7 x 13 =
#2,184 / #364 = 6D as ‘OTH being a cosmological anthropic principle
defining ratiocination: 22 / 7} operate as an equivalent of electronic STEM
cells by which DYNAMIC NATURAL ASSOCIATIONS occur as fostering of IDEAS
with other media types.

That the CATEGORIES are then redacted to their bifurcation of male / feme
pairing so as to ascertain the GNOMIC IMPERATIVE instruction set substrata
relationship and its OSMOSIS intersection points to the noumena operation
of MIND by the dialectic of INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTUS:

— FINE AND DANDY —

“MY HAIR IS NEVER A MESS.
JUST NUMBER TWO WAHL.
I LOVE 💕 WASH AND WEAR.
IT’S SO EASY TO BARBER.

AND I MUST CONFESS.
THERE’S NO EYES KOHL.
BEING BLONDE ‘N FAIR.
THE LOOK TO HARBOUR.”

H1548@{
   #1: Sup: 5; Ego: 5,
   #2: Sup: 81; Ego: 76,
   #3: Sup: 3; Ego: 3,
   #4: Sup: 33; Ego: 30,
   #5: Sup: 41; Ego: 8,
   #6: Sup: 47; Ego: 6,
   Male: #210; Feme: #128
} // #452

#452 as [#5, #400, #3, #30, #8, #6] = galach (H1548): {#2 as #41} 1) to
poll, shave, shave off, be bald; 1a) (Piel); 1a1) to shave; 1a2) to shave
off; 1a3) (fig. of devastation); 1b) (Pual) to be shaven; 1c) (Hithpael) to
shave oneself;

G3659@{
   #1: Sup: 70; Ego: 70,
   #2: Sup: 29; Ego: 40,
   #3: Sup: 69; Ego: 40,
   #4: Sup: 70; Ego: 1,
   #5: Sup: 46; Ego: 57,
   #6: Sup: 47; Ego: 1,
   Male: #331; Feme: #209
} // #452

#452 as [#70, #40, #40, #1, #300, #1] = omma (G3659): {#15 as #151} 1) an
eye;

Nous: #31
Time: 08:55 hrs
Date: 2018.8.5
Torah: [#10, #200, #400]@{
#1: Sup: 10; Ego: 10,
#2: Sup: 48; Ego: 38,
#3: Sup: 43; Ego: 76,
Male: #101; Feme: #124
} // #610

Dao: Military Stratagem, Quelling War
Tetra: #51 - Constancy
I-Ching: H32 - Perseverance, Endurance, Duration, Constancy

Latin: Spes {God who punishes the wicked} Alt: Saitel {Roaming of God} {

1. PROTECTS AGAINST UNJUST ATTACKS, CONFOUNDING ONE'S ENEMIES
2. PROPAGATES LIGHT, CIVILISATION & LIBERTY
3. PEACE, JUSTICE, SCIENCES & THE ARTS
4. Hepe
}

Solar Eclipse: 4 December 2002 (AEST) + 28 years

Amminadab {My people is liberal}

Transformative Prototype: *HOMOIOS* {#344 / #452} / HETEROS {#326 / #443}

<http://www.grapple369.com/?time:8.57>

***@zen: 4, row: 4, col: 5, nous: 31 [Super: #344 / #77 - Natural
Guide, Heaven's Reason; I-Ching: H12 - Obstruction, Standstill
(stagnation), Selfish persons; Tetra: 57 - Guardedness, Ego: #452 / #31 -
Military Stratagem, Quelling War; I-Ching: H32 - Perseverance, Endurance,
Duration, Constancy; Tetra: 51 - Constancy]

H7140@{
   #1: Sup: 6; Ego: 6,
   #2: Sup: 36; Ego: 30,
   #3: Sup: 55; Ego: 19,
   #4: Sup: 12; Ego: 38,
   #5: Sup: 20; Ego: 8,
   Male: #129; Feme: #101
} // #344

YOUTUBE: “Ice Ice Baby (Vanilla Ice)”

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE>

#344 as [#6, #30, #100, #200, #8] = qerach (H7140): {#10 as #308} 1) frost,
ice, ice crystal; 1a) frost (of night); 1b) *ICE*;

FACEBOOK VIDEO: "Block of ice falling from sky terrifies London street
cleaner"

<https://www.facebook.com/TheIndependentOnline/videos/10155989843921636/>

G716@{
   #1: Sup: 1; Ego: 1,
   #2: Sup: 20; Ego: 19,
   #3: Sup: 60; Ego: 40,
   #4: Sup: 61; Ego: 1,
   #5: Sup: 37; Ego: 57,
   #6: Sup: 47; Ego: 10,
   Male: #226; Feme: #128
} // #452

YOUTUBE: “The Horses 🐎 (Daryl Braithwaite)

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnigc08J6FI>

#452 as [#1, #100, #40, #1, #300, #10] = harma (G716): {#12 as #142} 1) a
chariot; 2) of war *CHARIOTS* (ie. armed with scythes); 3) chariots (drawn
with many horses);

That it is then the time and deterministic opportunity for a #391 - HOMOIOS
dispensation as the sapient global artificial intelligence knowledge
economy ... {#311 as [#6, #5, #200, #20, #30, #10, #40] = rakal (H7402):
{#14 as #250} 1) to go about (meaning dubious); 1a) (Qal) trafficker,
trader (participle) (subst)}

"Beside that he had of the merchantmen, and of the traffic of the spice
{rakal-merchant [H7402]: #311} merchants {rakal-merchant [H7402]: #311},
and of all the kings of Arabia, and of the governors of the country."
[1Kings 10:15]

YOUTUBE: "He who controls the Spice...!"

<https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=seRyZeLamAE>

“Thou hast multiplied thy merchants {rakal-merchant [H7402]: #311} above
the stars of heaven: the cankerworm spoileth, and fleeth away." [Nahum
3:16]

FIRSTLY I AM GOING TO SELF-DESCRIBE THE COGNITIVE PROCESS BY PROPOSITION OF
A HYPOTHETICAL Y-M-T-A MODEL WHICH I EQUALLY APPLY TO CHROMOSOMES:

#YOD - IS THE #CENTRE OF REALITY AS THE BEGINNING OF A WORD

#MEM - IS THE DELIMITATION OF ANY COGNITIVE EVENT AS THE ENDING OF A WORD

#TAU - IS THE CIRCUMSCRIBING OF ANY REALITY EVENT WHEREBY THE PROCESS AS
DISAMBIGUATION OF A WORD OCCURS

#ALEPH - IS THEN THE NEUROLOGICAL STREAMING OF THE COMPREHENSION



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[IMAGE: The eye {Y-M-T-A} glyph]

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that
was made.

In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
[John 1:1-5 (KJV)]

Most readers would realise that our Y-M-T-A model applies equally to the
New York / Pentagon TERRORIST EVENT of 11 September 2001:

STOICHEION OF THE KOSMOS

#YOD - IS THE #CENTRE OF REALITY IN SOVEREIGNTY AS OUR PRIME MINISTER JOHN
HOWARD IN NEW YORK ON 10 SEPTEMBER 2001 as HEAVEN {Divine GODHEAD which is
the Mind of Christ as *HYPOSTATIS*} +

#MEM - IS THE DELIMITATION OF ANY COGNITIVE EVENT AS THE CUSTODIAL SEIZURE
OF #41 - CENTRE {#6000 % 22 = 13} ON 13 SEPTEMBER 2001 as EARTH {DAO-ziran
(Chinese) / COURSE-trochos (Greek) OF NATURE-genesis [James 3:6]} +

#TAU - IS THE CIRCUMSCRIBING OF ANY REALITY EVENT AS EQUINOX @ 2305 HOURS
(GMT) UPON 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 as MAN {HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T]} +

<http://www.grapple369.com/?time:23.5>

***@zen: 2, row: 9, col: 8, nous: 1 [Super: #349 / #6 - Female
Superiority, Completion of Form; I-Ching: H25 - No Errancy, Without
Embroiling, Innocence, Pestilence; Tetra: 66 - Departure, Ego: #235 / #1 -
To Guide with Names, Reason's Realisation; I-Ching: H58 - Joy, Open, Lake;
Tetra: 24 - Joy]

#ALEPH - IS THEN THE #REPRISE OF THE WEEK UPON SUNDAY AS 23 SEPTEMBER 2001
{23 CHROMOSOME ELEMENTS AS THEORY OF GENDER}

“Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer
thou me.

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou
hast understanding.

Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched
the line upon it?

Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner
stone thereof;

When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for
joy?

Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued
out of the womb?

When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a
swaddlingband for it,

And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy
proud waves be stayed?

Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to
know his place;

That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be
shaken out of it?

It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be
broken.

Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the
search of the depth?

Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors
of the shadow of death?

Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it
all.

Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the
place thereof,

That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest
know the paths to the house thereof?

Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy
days is great?

Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the
treasures of the hail,

Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of
battle and war?” [Job 36:1-41 (KJV)]

— PINOCCHIO’S PARADOX —

“THERE ONCE WAS A BOY.
WHO COULD TALK CROW.
AN EPIC BIG AS TOLSTOY.
FANNY TICKLE, NOSE GROW.

TWAS FOR LOVE OF RACH[I]EL.
SO DID NOT REALLY CARE.
OF ANY TRUTH TO COMPEL.
NOR OF CONCEIT DESPAIR.

VIVID PORTRAITS VAN GOGH.
EACH TIME TRUTH DISPLACE.
ONE DAY WAS MAD ENOUGH.
TO CUT AN EAR SPITING FACE.”

NOTES: Russian author Leo Tolstoy’s ‘War and Peace’ was serialized within
The Russian Messenger from 1865 to 1867. The entire novel was published by
1869 as comprised some 1,225 pages being a substantial accomplishment.

Adventures of Pinocchio was serially published by Italian author Carlo
Collodi between 1881 to 1882 and finally during February 1883. And the
Dutch artist Vincent Van Gogh at 35 yo cut off his ear on the evening of 23
December 1888 and gave it to a prostitute.

RACH[I]EL: is within the Cabala schema, one of the angelic luminaries
concerned with human sexuality (ie. Eros and Evil). Is one of the presiding
spirits of #175 - VENUS. Has been depicted as one of 3 angels of Friday:

Sachiel {covering of God} is an angel of the Cherubim and the presiding
spirit of the planet #34 - JUPITER; Whereas Sachiel-Melek was a king of the
underworld hierarchy governing priesthoods and sacrifices.

ANAEL: controls kingdoms and kings on earth in having dominion over the
moon. And proclaims: “Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which
keepeth the truth may enter in.

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because
he trusteth in thee.

Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting
strength:

For he bringeth down them that dwell on high; the lofty city, he layeth it
low; he layeth it low, even to the ground; he bringeth it even to the
dust.” [Isaiah 26:2-5 (KJV)]

Thusly should I wish to obtain advice on eliminating extraneous Categories
of Understanding associated to the BOMB BLAST EVENT and which have been
systematically and unwillingly imposed upon me and its consequence is then
"hyper-arousal of the central nervous system and stress of the startle
reflex"

Whereby in terms of the WORD example the mind's phonetic apprehension is
impeded and stressed as then either discordant or unknowing of any word's
entity (ie. as the manner by which you can distinguish a car exhaust blow
back as a sudden and an inexplicable bang from an earlier experience of a
bomb blast) is a priori and transitional towards it's final comprehension
by it's acceptable, customary and correct orthography as Category of
Understanding.

Thus the recourse in my view is to either effect a stratagem of #YOD / #MEM
amplification THERAPY by which AMBIGUITY is delimited and so that the
apprehension process occurs normally as unimpeded and becomes de-stressed.

Or whether a prescription of a PSYCHOTROPIC pharmaceutical which whilst not
impeding either the apprehension or cognitive process is able to sedate the
“central nervous system and destressing of the startle reflex”.

But I am after all, seeking their advice of how best to resolve the injury
given they do not have any substantial practical clinical and case study
expertise with instances of bomb blasts experience.

Making a reasonable supposition as a logical, probable and hypothetical
proposition, which is then predicated upon by a determined course of
affirmative action to inform oneself through inquisition as elimination--is
the process of a rational mind practiced in acquiring knowledge and
explicit specification within Categories of Understanding.

That in my view, punctiliousness has an intrinsic phonetic correspondence
and is a functional cognitive characteristic which is intrinsic of the mind
and this process is not all unlike the initial starting point of this
chapter by its specific construction of meticulous narrative as neural
linguistic streaming and it's subsequent refinement until it was
satisfactory.

For example, if all but the first and last letters are scrambled and the
sentence is entirely ambiguous, you can still disambiguate the word and
fully comprehend the sentence, as Cambridge University researchers have
suggested:

"Taht in my veiw, psciiouelnunsts is an insniirtc phteinoc conrecoednprse
and fancounitl cvgiinote cartarseiichtc of mnid."

<http://douglastwitchell.com/scrambled_words.php>

And in a similar manner, the mind's phonetic apprehension as the knowing of
any word's entity (ie. as the manner by which you can distinguish a car
exhaust blow back as a sudden and an inexplicable bang from an earlier
experience of a bomb blast) is a priori and transitional towards it's final
comprehension by it's acceptable, customary and correct orthography as
Category of Understanding.

Confusion like fear and paranoia which steadfastly and habitually refuses
to overcome its ignorant state by informing itself, can then be considered
delusional.'

Here is an another description of Autonomy of Will which is then an
Adam/Eve original sin scenario: 'That it is then, manifestly the
substantial cause as my impetus for the claim that you have departed from
all sense of decency as decorum being a stable characteristic, in having
lost a total semblance of rationality, as any connectivity with the
temporal as sensibility and coherence of reality--manifestly an insanity as
narcissist personality disordered.

You after all, are young and whimsical in being entirely driven as governed
by a daemonic circumstantial desire as inclusive of your sexual
appetite--it can no more make a justifiable claim of a substantial
rationality, coherence and integrity of being because you are entirely
unable to keep your intention, the utterance of your words and any
consequential action within concord as the ethereal quality and the
affirmation of the legitimacy of existence, which separates the mind of a
man from the impertinence, impudence and the inconsequential amorality of
the boy as possessing a deficiency and having a questionable and an
illegitimacy as only a pretentious claim to humanity.

The fragile, pathetic, frightened and circumstantial condition which is
your existence is clearly conveyed by the deprivation of language, which
isn't really sufficient as a quality or quantity to even authenticate your
humanity.

A cockatoo would have a larger vocabulary!

Your manner of speech is a testimony to the ineffectual, circumstantial
manner of your life, which is driven by a contrary desire as feigned reason
(ie. the real and substantiating human dynamic) being the cause for
preference as fickle and inconsequential values. Other than to utter some
idiosyncratic preferences as wants, you are incapable of engaging within a
rational process of negotiation in order to resolve the dynamics of any
sexual opportunism, overcome any impediments to the whimsical
determination, that it might possibly occur--raising the significant
question as to whether you are even capable of showing any accountability
for harm reduction within your inter-personal interaction as your sexual
conduct. As being, something more than happenstance and thereby it's only
claim to virtue.

- dolf

A DRAFT REVISION OF THIS DOCUMENT MAY BE OBTAINED AS A PDF FROM THIS URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Karl%20Marx.pdf>

Initial Post: 5 May 2018
--
YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7OuqWi4vQ>

SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF
NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN*
*CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as
harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a
robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT*

Private “Saint Andrews” Street on the edge of the Central Business District
dated 16th May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as
a Notice of an Application for Planning Permit

<http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>

SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in 1993),
first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie.
Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory
of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven
visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis
[James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day
= #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the
64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather
than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the
macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial
canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER.

<http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>

The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines
a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is permissible to
extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS
REALITY OF HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL
REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] as
EXISTENCE.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip> (Download resources)

After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."

"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."

Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Article says "Cardinal George Pell will face trial " You saying he is
above needing to go to a trail?
Did I say that anywhere? Show me where I have even hinted at such
a thing.
Post by MattB
You need to read what I post not what pedo defender Patrick Barker
says I post.
I have read what you have said. You are convicting the Cardinal of
pedophilia without a trial.
Patrick B
2018-05-05 13:07:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
Do you even know what excommunication is, or what it means?
Would you like a lesson?
MattB
2018-05-05 18:33:35 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
Do you even know what excommunication is, or what it means?
Would you like a lesson?
How would you know you using Voodoo and reading minds?
Patrick B
2018-05-05 20:10:01 UTC
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Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
Do you even know what excommunication is, or what it means?
Would you like a lesson?
How would you know you using Voodoo and reading minds?
Huh?
You don't have to know "voodoo" to understand what excommunication is.

Excommunication A spiritual censure by which one is excluded from the
communion of the faithful and suffers consequences inseparably
attached by canon law to such exclusion. It is also called anathema,
especially when inflicted with solemnities described in the Roman
Ritual. While not vindictive, excommunication is the Church's most
serious penalty, its chief purpose being the correction of the guilty.
This correction takes the form of exclusion from the spiritual
benefits of the Church as a society and Mystical Body of Christ.
Excommunication directly affects only the individual, who does not
cease thereby to be a Christian, owing to the indelible character of
Baptism.
http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/ncd03169.htm

Would you like to learn more?
MattB
2018-05-05 20:25:29 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
Do you even know what excommunication is, or what it means?
Would you like a lesson?
How would you know you using Voodoo and reading minds?
Huh?
You don't have to know "voodoo" to understand what excommunication is.
Excommunication A spiritual censure by which one is excluded from the
communion of the faithful and suffers consequences inseparably
attached by canon law to such exclusion. It is also called anathema,
especially when inflicted with solemnities described in the Roman
Ritual. While not vindictive, excommunication is the Church's most
serious penalty, its chief purpose being the correction of the guilty.
This correction takes the form of exclusion from the spiritual
benefits of the Church as a society and Mystical Body of Christ.
Excommunication directly affects only the individual, who does not
cease thereby to be a Christian, owing to the indelible character of
Baptism.
http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/ncd03169.htm
Would you like to learn more?
I already knew. This really all you have to defend pedophiles?? There
is no defense.
Patrick B
2018-05-05 22:06:08 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
Do you even know what excommunication is, or what it means?
Would you like a lesson?
How would you know you using Voodoo and reading minds?
Huh?
You don't have to know "voodoo" to understand what excommunication is.
Excommunication A spiritual censure by which one is excluded from the
communion of the faithful and suffers consequences inseparably
attached by canon law to such exclusion. It is also called anathema,
especially when inflicted with solemnities described in the Roman
Ritual. While not vindictive, excommunication is the Church's most
serious penalty, its chief purpose being the correction of the guilty.
This correction takes the form of exclusion from the spiritual
benefits of the Church as a society and Mystical Body of Christ.
Excommunication directly affects only the individual, who does not
cease thereby to be a Christian, owing to the indelible character of
Baptism.
http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/ncd03169.htm
Would you like to learn more?
I already knew. This really all you have to defend pedophiles?? There
is no defense.
I do not defend you, yer dad, or any pedo.
R☼d
2018-05-05 23:38:05 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Yes. I will defend his reputation until the court finds him guilty,
but until then he has been ACCUSED of pedophilia, that isn't proof
that he is guilty of it.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Article says "Cardinal George Pell will face trial " You saying he is
above needing to go to a trail?
Did I say that anywhere? Show me where I have even hinted at such
a thing.
Post by MattB
You need to read what I post not what pedo defender Patrick Barker
says I post.
I have read what you have said. You are convicting the Cardinal of
pedophilia without a trial.
MattB
2018-05-06 02:51:16 UTC
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
Post by Patrick B
Post by MattB
On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Yes. I will defend his reputation until the court finds him guilty,
but until then he has been ACCUSED of pedophilia, that isn't proof
that he is guilty of it.
That is your choice.
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Article says "Cardinal George Pell will face trial " You saying he is
above needing to go to a trail?
Did I say that anywhere? Show me where I have even hinted at such
a thing.
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You need to read what I post not what pedo defender Patrick Barker
says I post.
I have read what you have said. You are convicting the Cardinal of
pedophilia without a trial.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
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That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
MattB
2018-05-06 02:51:13 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Patrick B
2018-05-06 11:21:01 UTC
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. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
+ C'mon, matty. It's almost time to call rod a pedo again.
Mention his wife and kids again.
Post his address again.

That is what you do....
MattB
2018-05-06 18:53:31 UTC
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. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
+ C'mon, matty. It's almost time to call rod a pedo again.
Mention his wife and kids again.
Post his address again.
That is what you do....
I told you the rules. I will reply in kind and up the ante to your
intent.

Rod is not making up BS saying it is my family. He knows my middle
name I believe so knows you are lying about so much.

The fact is you lie to try to intimidate people to keep silent about
Pedophilia within the RCC. You just aren't good at it and are in
actuality a wuss and whiny bitch.

Pell might be innocent and we will see what the court says but with so
many witnesses seems unlikely. Australian Judges don't have to worry
about how Catholics vote.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
MattB
2018-05-06 18:55:41 UTC
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty. I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.

Patrick defends Pedophilia. You empower Patrick.

I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;

"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"

"Cardinal is evil or insane."


and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;

"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
Post by MattB
I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia. You empower Patrick.
I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
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and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia. You empower Patrick.
I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
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"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
I do not defend you, larry or any pedo.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
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Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
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and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
Very funny! In all of this I have NOT ONCE seen ANY OF YOU
come up with a QUOTE from Patrick admitting that he supports
pedophiles, either accidentally or confession.

Show me some proof. Show me a statement of Patrick admitting
doing this, but more likely than not it is you misconstruing
something he has said.
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia.
Patrick defends the church and the innocent in the church. He also
believes in innocent until proven guilty.
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You empower Patrick.
(Smiling)
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I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
I didn't write the article dumb shit born again fraud.
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
Post by R☼d
and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
Very funny! In all of this I have NOT ONCE seen ANY OF YOU
come up with a QUOTE from Patrick admitting that he supports
pedophiles, either accidentally or confession.
Patrick just attacks any poster of a article about Pedophilia within
the RCC with lies for the fun of it?
Post by R☼d
Show me some proof. Show me a statement of Patrick admitting
doing this, but more likely than not it is you misconstruing
something he has said.
You are funny.
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia.
Patrick defends the church and the innocent in the church. He also
believes in innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by MattB
You empower Patrick.
(Smiling)
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I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
Sure you won't.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
I didn't write the article dumb shit born again fraud.
(smiling...)
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
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and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
Very funny! In all of this I have NOT ONCE seen ANY OF YOU
come up with a QUOTE from Patrick admitting that he supports
pedophiles, either accidentally or confession.
Patrick just attacks any poster of a article about Pedophilia within
the RCC with lies for the fun of it?
Perhaps because it is a hurtful subject and he and others
have been condemned before for being catholic..as if that
isn't happening now...

Now..where is your good, solid evidence pointing to Patrick
covering up pedophilia and defending pedophiles?

If this is all you have then you don't have a thing.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Show me some proof. Show me a statement of Patrick admitting
doing this, but more likely than not it is you misconstruing
something he has said.
You are funny.
None of it is funny. You are not funny. The longer that you
use evil, the more entrenched it becomes in your spirit until
one day you have become that evil, and destroyed that wonderful
work done by God that was Matt Brooks.
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia.
Patrick defends the church and the innocent in the church. He also
believes in innocent until proven guilty.
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You empower Patrick.
(Smiling)
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I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
Sure you won't.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
I didn't write the article dumb shit born again fraud.
(smiling...)
I'm just shaking my head and you and Patrick. You don't want these
events made public. Still waiting for you power to cause the earth to
shake. You being a fraudulent Born again?
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
Post by R☼d
and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
Very funny! In all of this I have NOT ONCE seen ANY OF YOU
come up with a QUOTE from Patrick admitting that he supports
pedophiles, either accidentally or confession.
Patrick just attacks any poster of a article about Pedophilia within
the RCC with lies for the fun of it?
Perhaps because it is a hurtful subject and he and others
have been condemned before for being catholic..as if that
isn't happening now...
Now..where is your good, solid evidence pointing to Patrick
covering up pedophilia and defending pedophiles?
If this is all you have then you don't have a thing.
It is all over the post. His method of defense of Pedophilia and like
you not wanting it made public.
What your Priest lack victims now as Parents are warned.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Show me some proof. Show me a statement of Patrick admitting
doing this, but more likely than not it is you misconstruing
something he has said.
You are funny.
None of it is funny. You are not funny. The longer that you
use evil, the more entrenched it becomes in your spirit until
one day you have become that evil, and destroyed that wonderful
work done by God that was Matt Brooks.
Post by MattB
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Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia.
Patrick defends the church and the innocent in the church. He also
believes in innocent until proven guilty.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
You empower Patrick.
(Smiling)
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
Sure you won't.
dolf
2018-05-07 19:54:38 UTC
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— SAINT PATRICK IRISH CATHOLIC PLAGUE —

“TREASON ONLY TREASON.
TO BE SURE, TO BE SURE.
THERE IS NO OTHER REASON.
LEPRECHAUN CAUSE SO PURE.

DOES CURSE OUR SOVEREIGN.
AND FELCH THE PAPAL ARSE.
SUCH LOVE WHICH YOU FEIGN.
AS JINGOISTIC SOCIAL CURSE.”

SUBJECT WAS: Re: Cardinal George Pell will face trial on homosex-offense
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate
to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him
the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in
court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was
asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed
one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one
of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell
by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two
boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the
regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers
at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop
in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a
statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to
meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases
to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by
dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting
uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims,
and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse
that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140
people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children,
the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of
the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability
of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her
to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with
victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate
read
the judgment and left the room, there was
clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
I didn't write the article dumb shit born again fraud.
(smiling...)
I'm just shaking my head and you and Patrick. You don't want these
events made public. Still waiting for you power to cause the earth to
shake. You being a fraudulent Born again?
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
Post by R☼d
and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
Very funny! In all of this I have NOT ONCE seen ANY OF YOU
come up with a QUOTE from Patrick admitting that he supports
pedophiles, either accidentally or confession.
Patrick just attacks any poster of a article about Pedophilia within
the RCC with lies for the fun of it?
Perhaps because it is a hurtful subject and he and others
have been condemned before for being catholic..as if that
isn't happening now...
Now..where is your good, solid evidence pointing to Patrick
covering up pedophilia and defending pedophiles?
If this is all you have then you don't have a thing.
It is all over the post. His method of defense of Pedophilia and like
you not wanting it made public.
What your Priest lack victims now as Parents are warned.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Show me some proof. Show me a statement of Patrick admitting
doing this, but more likely than not it is you misconstruing
something he has said.
You are funny.
None of it is funny. You are not funny. The longer that you
use evil, the more entrenched it becomes in your spirit until
one day you have become that evil, and destroyed that wonderful
work done by God that was Matt Brooks.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia.
Patrick defends the church and the innocent in the church. He also
believes in innocent until proven guilty.
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
You empower Patrick.
(Smiling)
Post by MattB
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
Sure you won't.
-- NEO-FASCIST EMPATHIES EXHIBITED BY GRINDR #231 - YOUTH {[#2, #8, #6,
#200, #10, #5] = bachuwr (H970): {#49 as #231} 1) *YOUTH*, young man; 2)
*HITLER* *YOUTH*} AS A MODUS OPERANDI OF *DETRUDE* {ie. *TO* *THRUST* *OR*
*FORCE* *DOWN*, *DRIVE* *OUT*, *OR* *AWAY*}

(c) 2018 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 7 May, 2018

— ***@T H8R —

"BIN IT OR KURB IT.
NOT STREET WISE.
MIRROR SAYS IT ALL.
JUST WEARING ***@T.
YA FACE DISGUISE.
DEPRAVITY'S PALL."

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DOLF @ 1741 HOURS ON 30 APRIL 2018: "Hey jonger."

DUTCH BOY @ 0803 HOURS ON 1 MAY 2018: "Hello."

DOLF @ 0903 HOURS ON 1 MAY 2018: "How long are you in Gippsland for and are
you enjoying your trip?

I'm an older guy of Dutch / Friesian heritage but born here."

DOLF @ 2259 HOURS ON 3 MAY 2018: "Disrespect?"

DOLF @ 1942 HOURS ON 5 MAY 2018: "Can you count to TEN as a SOVEREIGN
PRINCIPLE?

@1 - #17 - 2017
@2 - #33 - #INR
@3 - #65 - SOLDIER
@4 - #390 - WREATHS / CROWN / AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE 4 JULY 1776

@5 - #288 - UMBRA / BEERSHEBA / 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 (HETEROS)
@6 - #419 - SLAUGHTER
@7 - #391 - HOMOIOS
@8 - #13 - Letters Patent
@9 - #21 - Bequeathed to Sovereign Heirs in perpetuity

@10 - #37 - Non-Deeming Action, Government Administration; I-Ching: H40 -
Release, Deliverance, Taking-Apart, Untangled; Tetra: 21 - Release;

Do you know what that means boy?

It's bigger than even your Dutch Sovereign."

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[IMAGE: Egyptian ANKH as the basis of Fascist / Roman Catholic {ie.
hymeneal as marriage / sovereign dynamic v's Jewish Torah Intellectus as
Genitive Voluntātus} Empire Governance]

DUTCH BOY @ 2000 HOURS ON 6 MAY 2018: *BLOCKED*

GOVERNMENT SHILL #2 (***@GMAIL.COM) @ 1144 HOURS ON 7 MAY 2018:
"Yeah. Well. I'm not surprised. you come across as a bit... nutty."

DOLF @ 1153 HOURS ON 7 MAY 2018: "Says the pedophile shill."

GOVERNMENT SHILL #2 (***@GMAIL.COM) @ 1144 HOURS ON 7 MAY 2018:
"Hmm... Slander. I see you practice what you preach.

'If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the
bible seriously, one must be already mad.' Aleister Crowley (12 October
1875 – 1 December 1947) [*EXTOLLING* *ADMIRATION* *FOR* *ADOLF* *HITLER'S*
*DOGMA*]

DOLF @ 1339 HOURS ON 7 MAY 2018: "It’s not slander made against an
anonymous entity as you have no substantial grounds to refute the assertion
and therefore such a premise must be held to be *LOGICALLY* {

G3050@{
#1: Sup: 30; Ego: 30,
#2: Sup: 19; Ego: 70,
#3: Sup: 22; Ego: 3,
#4: Sup: 32; Ego: 10,
#5: Sup: 52; Ego: 20,
#6: Sup: 41; Ego: 70,
#7: Sup: 10; Ego: 50,
Male: #206; Feme: #253
} // #253

#253 as [#30, #70, #3, #10, #20, #70, #50] = logikos (G3050): {#18 as #403}
1) pertaining to speech or speaking; 2) pertaining to the reason or logic;
2a) spiritual, pertaining to the soul; 2b) agreeable to reason, following
reason, reasonable, *LOGICAL*;

} factual as correct on face value.

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***@zen: 4, row: 6, col: 3, nous: 29 [Super: #253 / #31 - Military
Stratagem, Quelling War; I-Ching: H32 - Perseverance, Endurance, Duration,
Constancy; Tetra: 51 - Constancy, Ego: #357 / #29 - Deeming, Non-Assertion;
I-Ching: H36 - Suppression of the Light, Sinking/Darkening of the Light,
Brilliance injured, Intelligence hidden; Tetra: 67 - Darkening]

You are digging yourself further into a hole."

That if this trinomial HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER a priori as PARADIGM
already has a conception of an INTELLECTUAL TETRAD {#8 - Transformation
Prototype} which as CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY was associated to a LUNAR
event upon the midnight solstice of 21 December 103 BCE and published in 4
BCE is equivalent to the later implementation of PYTHAGOREAN binomial
HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER as the basis for the Julian calendar and the
subsequent Roman Empire Governance (and that of religionists):

VIRTUE as MIND: {#1 + #2 = #3} +
TOOLS as SCIENCE: {#3 + #4 = #7} +
POSITION as OPINION: {#5 + #6 = #11 as Collegium of Pontiffs from 510 BCE
as AS PONTIFICATED DEIFIED IGNORANCE BEING NARCISSISM} +
TIME as SENSE: {#7 + #8 = #15}

= #36 (ie. H27 - Realm of its Nature as Heaven - Formula of Universal Law +
H9 - System's Cosmology as Earth - Formula of Humanity)

6x6 = #36 / #111 / #666 {#FIVE AS #CENTRE VALUE TO THE GNOME}

Whilst it may continue to function as an acceptable METHODOLOGY {ARCH KAI
TELOS OIDA: #1 + #2 + #3 +#4 = #10} with an encapsulated sphere of
operation {

41 1 57
49 33 17
9 65 25 = #99 / #297 {#ONE}

42 2 58
50 34 18
10 66 26 = #102 / #306 {#TWO}

43 3 59
51 35 19
11 67 27 = #105 / #315 {#THREE}

44 4 60
52 36 20
12 68 28 = #108 / #324 {#FOUR}

74 81 76
79 77 75
78 73 80 = #231 - #108 = #123 / #693 - #369 = #324 {#TEN} AS RETURN TO
GRECO-ROMAN MAGIC SQUARE BEING ITSELF

}, it is entirely a specious notion to declare it is the root and causal
basis of the perennialist philosophical tradition.

Nous: #73
Time:
Date:
Torah: [#40, #90, #200]@{
#1: Sup: 40; Ego: 40,
#2: Sup: 49; Ego: 9,
#3: Sup: 6; Ego: 38,
Male: #95; Feme: #87
} // #330

Dao: Employing Deeming, Daring to Act
Tetra: #7 - Ascent
I-Ching: H46 - Climbing, Moving/Pushing Upward, Ascending

Latin: Gloria {God who comforts the oppressed} Alt: Menkel {Cease Strife
Before God] {

1. HELPS HEAL THE ILLS OF THE SPIRIT, RELEASES FROM PERSECUTORS
2. MEN OF VIRTUE
3. FAITHFULNESS, INDUCES OBEDIENCE IN SUBORDINATES
4. Homoth
}
Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {Sovereign; one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}; #15 CE

Transformative Prototype: *HOMOIOS* {#450 / #375 - *RESOLVES* TO #231 ON
THE SIXTH PLANE} / HETEROS {#452 / #376}

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***@zen: 7, row: 7, col: 7, nous: 73 [Super: #450 / #61 - Virtuous
Humility at Using 'Beneath'; I-Ching: H64 - Ferrying Incomplete, Before
Completion, Not Yet Fording, Not yet completed; Tetra: 78 - On the Verge,
Ego: #375 / #73 - Employing Deeming, Daring to Act; I-Ching: H46 -
Climbing, Moving/Pushing Upward, Ascending; Tetra: 7 - Ascent]

@5 - {RHYTHM: 5 x #41 = #205 as #5 - last will, testament: Faciens
misericordiam {#5 - Granting forgiveness} (1308 CE) / CANON: RHYTHM &
HARMONY / Do Not Steal} / DISCRIMINATING NORM (HUMAN NATURE),

#17 / #5 - Act of Nature: {DOUBLE: #5 - Act of Nature {#8 - Transforming
Nature} [#175 / #4 - Nature Amended in its Nature]

@6 - {CAUSE AND EFFECT: 6 x #41 = #246 as #6 - goal, object, purpose,
intention: Ad providam {#6 - To Foresee / For Providence} (1312 CE) /
IMPLEMENTATION: HETEROS (binomial / bifurcated) THEORY OF NUMBER / Do Not
Bear False Witness} / BINDING NORM (NORMA OBLIGANS),

#20 / #8 - Transforming Nature {DOUBLE: #6 - Form of Nature {#9 -
Autonomous Nature} [#505 / #1 - Nature Contains Nature]

IMPLEMENTATION: {GRAVITAS: ASSISTING (#RESH to #TAU)} / DEFINE THE @1
SOVEREIGN PRINCIPLE CHARACTERISTIC HERE

@7 - {ENGENDERING / ENUMERATE: 7 x #41 = #287 as #7 - signification,
import: Vox in excelso {#7 - The voice on high} (1312 CE) / LIMIT: #INR AS
TERNIO ANAGRAM / Do Not Covet} MANIFESTING NORM (NORMA DENUNTIANS). [LATIN
definition: VOLUNTĀTIS]

7 x #41 = #287 as [#1, #50, #1, #3, #20, #1, #10, #1, #200] = anagkaios
(G316): {#9 as #356} 1) necessary; 1a) what one can not do without,
indispensable; 1b) connected by bonds of nature or friendship; 1c) what
ought according to the law of duty be done, what is required by the
circumstances;

#22 / #10 - Totality of Nature {DOUBLE: #7 - Engendering Nature {#10 -
Totality of Nature}} [#870 / #6 - Form of Nature]

THE HOMOIOS PROTOTYPE UTILIZES THE HETERO SPIROGYRA ORDER SQUARE WHEREAS
THE HETEROS ('CHRIST MURDEROUS') PROTOTYPE UTILIZES THE GRECO-ROMAN MAGIC
SQUARE.

Thus you see how religionist protagonists are defeated in relation to
GENDER and SEXUAL IDENTITY.

And on the eighth day God said, 'I’m done with those ***@ckers.'

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Deus ex machina.

Didn’t Hitler praise the machina as Volkswagen (much like ELON MUSK) also
lament against the German Bible translation as derangement of MIND in
deference to returning to the neo-platonic (ie. Pythagorean binomial
HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER) as SCIENCE / OPINION being the traditions of
Ancient Rome?

Makes perfect SENSE to me that you are not only GODLESS but a NEO-FASCIST.

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[IMAGES: An Australian Irish / Roman Catholic wedding of circa 1920-30 as
preceding the use of the swastika by Nazi Germany]

ADOLF HITLER'S TABLE TALK IDEA @5 ON NIGHT OF 21ST-22ND JULY 1941 AS
GRATITUDE TO THE JESUITS — PROTESTANT FANATICISM— SIMILARITIES BETWEEN
GERMANY AND ITALY — DANTE AND LUTHER — THE DUCE IS ONE OF THE CAESARS — THE
MARCH ON ROME — A TURNING POINT IN HISTORY — DELIGHTFUL ITALIAN TOWNS —
ROME AND PARIS:

"But Luther had the merit of rising against the Pope and the organisation
of the Church. It was the first of the great revolutions. And thanks to his
translation of the Bible, Luther replaced our dialects by the great German
language!

It's remarkable to observe the resemblances between the evolution of
Germany and that of Italy. The creators of the language, Dante and Luther,
rose against the ecumenical desires of the papacy.

Each of the two nations was led to unity, against the dynastic interests,
by one man. They achieved their unity against the will of the Pope." [PAGE
#5: LUTHER, DANTE AND MUSSOLINI]

HITLER'S TABLE TALK: IDEA @I / PAGE #3 ON SATURDAY 5 JULY 1941: “THE
*FASCIST* *MOVEMENT* *IS* *A* *SPONTANEOUS* *RETURN* *TO* *THE*
*TRADITIONS* *OF* *ANCIENT* *ROME* {strength}.”

IDEA @52 / PAGE #87 ON EVENING 25 OCTOBER 1941 WHERE HEYDRICH (architect of
the Holocaust) WAS A SPECIAL GUEST. He was an Senior Group Leader and
General of Police as well as chief of the Reich Main Security Office
including the Gestapo: “*THE* *ATTEMPT* *TO* *CREATE* *A* *JEWISH* *STATE*
*WILL* *BE* *A* *FAILURE*.

THE BOOK THAT CONTAINS THE REFLECTIONS OF THE EMPEROR JULIAN (Latin:
Flavius Claudius Iulianus Augustus; 331/332 – 26 June 363 CE) SHOULD BE
CIRCULATED IN MILLIONS. WHAT WONDERFUL INTELLIGENCE, WHAT DISCERNMENT, ALL
THE WISDOM OF ANTIQUITY!

IT'S EXTRA-ORDINARY: Julian was a man of unusually complex character: he
was "the military commander, the theosophist, the social reformer, and the
man of letters". *HE* *WAS* *THE* *LAST* *NON*-*CHRISTIAN* *RULER* *OF*
*THE* *ROMAN* *EMPIRE*, *AND* *HE* *BELIEVED* *THAT* *IT* *WAS* *NECESSARY*
*TO* *RESTORE* *THE* *EMPIRE'S* *ANCIENT* *ROMAN* *VALUES* *AND*
*TRADITIONS* *IN* *ORDER* *TO* *SAVE* *IT* *FROM* *DISSOLUTION*.

He revive traditional Roman religious practices at the expense of
Christianity. Julian also forbade the Christians from teaching classical
texts and learning. His rejection of the Christianity imposed on him in his
youth, and his *PROMOTION* *OF* *NEOPLATONIC* *HELLENISM* {ie. advocated by
IRISH THEOLOGIAN John Scotus Eriugena (c. 815 – c. 877) as consisting of
Pythagorean binomial HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER however the PRE-PLATONIC
advocate Philolaus (470-385 BCE) considered the Natural Year to be 364.5
days} in its place caused him to be remembered as Julian the Apostate by
the church. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)>]"

IDEA @233 ON MIDDAY OF 5th June 1942: PRE-DISPOSITION OF THE FINNS TO
MENTAL DISEASES — EFFECTS OF STUDY OF THE BIBLE THEREON — RELIGIOUS MANIA —
GERMANS MUST AVOID SPIRITUAL SICKNESS:

PAGE #512 - IRREPLACEABLE MEN MUST AVOID RISKS

The topic of conversation {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #20, #4, #2, #200, #5 = dabar (H1696): {#3 as #231}
1) to speak, declare, converse, command, promise, warn, threaten, sing; 1a)
(Qal) to speak; 1b) (Niphal) *TO* *SPEAK* *WITH* *ONE* *ANOTHER*, *TALK*;
1c) (Piel); 1c1) *TO* *SPEAK*; 1c2) to promise; 1d) (Pual) to be spoken;
1e) (Hithpael) to speak; 1f) (Hiphil) to lead away, put to flight;

} was the exceptionally large {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #200, #8, #10, #2, #6 = rachab (H7337): {#37 as
#231} 1) to be or grow wide, be or grow large; 1a) (Qal) to be widened, be
enlarged; 1b) (Niphal) broad or roomy pasture (participle); 1c) (Hiphil);
1c1) *TO* *MAKE* *LARGE*; 1c2) to enlarge;

} number of cases of mental disease {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #10, #7, #200, #8 = zarach (H2224): {#1 as #231}
1) to rise, come forth, break out, arise, rise up, shine; 1a) (Qal); 1a1)
to rise; 1a2) to come out, appear; #6, #5, #9, #5, #200, #6 = taher
(H2891): {#2 as #231} 1) to be clean, be pure; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to be clean
(physically - *OF* *DISEASE*); 1a2) to be clean ceremonially; 1a3) to
purify, be clean morally, made clean; 1b) (Piel); 1b1) to cleanse, purify;
1b1a) physically; 1b1b) ceremonially; 1b1c) morally; 1b2) to pronounce
clean; 1b3) to perform the ceremony of cleansing; 1c) (Pual) to be
cleansed, be pronounced clean; 1d) (Hithpael); 1d1) to purify oneself;
1d1a) ceremonially; 1d1b) morally; 1d2) to present oneself for
purification;

} in Finland. Among the causes {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #200, #1, #10, #500 = ra'ah (H7200): {#40 as #231} 1)
to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to see; 1a2)
to see, perceive; 1a3) to see, have vision; 1a4) to look at, see, regard,
look after, see after, learn about, observe, watch, look upon, look out,
find out; 1a5) to see, observe, consider, look at, give attention to,
discern, distinguish; 1a6) to look at, gaze at; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to
appear, present oneself; 1b2) to be seen; 1b3) to be visible; 1c) (Pual) to
be seen; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to see, show; 1d2) to cause to look
intently at, behold, cause to gaze at; 1e) (Hophal); 1e1) to be caused to
see, be shown; 1e2) to be exhibited to; 1f) (Hithpael) to look at each
other, face;

} put forward as possible explanations of the vulnerability of the Finns to
these types of diseases {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #10, #1, #200, #9, #1, #10 = iaomai (G2390): {#58 as
#231} 1) to cure, heal; 2) to make whole; 2a) to free from errors and sins,
to bring about (one's) salvation;

} were—the Aurora Borealis and the strong {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #20, #3, #2, #6, #200 = gibbowr (H1368): {#33 as
#231} 1) strong, mighty n m; 2) strong man, brave man, mighty man;

} inclination prevalent among Finns to worry unduly {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #408 as #4, #1, #3, #400 = da'ag (H1672): {#1 as #8} 1) to
fear, be anxious, be concerned, be afraid, be careful; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to
be anxious, be concerned; 1a2) to fear, dread;

} over religious problems {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #10, #100, #8, #50, #8, #50 = eirene (G1515):
{#57 as #231} 1) a state of national tranquillity; 2) peace between
individuals, i.e. harmony, concord; 3) security, safety, prosperity,
felicity, (because peace and harmony make and keep things safe and
prosperous); 4) of the Messiah's peace; 5) of Christianity, the tranquil
state of a soul assured of its salvation through Christ, and so fearing
nothing from God and content with its earthly lot, of whatsoever sort that
is; 6) the blessed state of devout and upright men after death; 1a)
exemption from the rage and havoc of war; 4a) the way that leads to peace
(salvation);

}. In Finland the farms are often as much as thirty to fifty miles apart,
and the inhabitants {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #80, #1, #100, #5, #80, #10, #4, #8, #40, #70, #10 =
parepidemos (G3927): {#13 as #598} 1) one who comes from a foreign country
into a city or land to reside there by the side of the natives; 2) a
stranger; 3) sojourning in a strange place, a foreigner; 4) in the NT
metaphor in reference to heaven as the native country, one who sojourns on
earth;

}, condemned, particularly in winter, to a comparatively isolated {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #60, #5, #20, #30, #10, #50, #1, #50 = ekklino
(G1578): {#62 as #231} 1) to turn aside, deviate (from the right way and
course); 2) to turn (one's self) away, to turn away from, keep aloof from
one's society; 3) to shun one;

} existence, feel the need of mental exercise; an exceptionally strong {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #20, #3, #2, #200 = geber (H1397): {#46 as #231}
1) man, strong man, warrior (emphasising strength or ability to fight);

} tendency to religious surmise {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #5, #10, #70, #90, #10, #600 = ya`ats (H3289):
{#52 as #231} 1) to advise, consult, give counsel, counsel, purpose,
devise, plan; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to advise, counsel, give counsel, consult;
1a2) counsellor (participle); 1b) (Niphal) to consult together, exchange
counsel, deliberate, counsel together; 1c) (Hithpael) to conspire;

} is therefore understandable {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #1, #20, #10, #200 = nakar (H5234): {#31 as #231} 1)
to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or
treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to distinguish,
understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a) (Niphal) to disguise
oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign (profane); 2b2) to
misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) to act as alien; 2c2) to disguise
oneself;

}.

THE FUEHRER EXPRESSED HIMSELF AS FOLLOWS:

PAGE #513 - GERMAN BIBLE TRANSLATION CONDEMNED

It is a great pity that this tendency towards religious thought {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #70, #50, #70, #40, #1 = onoma (G3686): {#56 as #231}
1) name: universe of proper names; 2) the name is used for everything which
the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in
the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, ie. for one's rank,
authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc.; 3)
persons reckoned up by name; 4) *THE* *CAUSE* *OR* *REASON* *NAMED*: *ON*
*THIS* *ACCOUNT*, *BECAUSE* *HE* *SUFFERS* *AS* *A* *CHRISTIAN*, *FOR*
*THIS* *REASON*;

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #10, #100, #8, #50, #8, #50 = eirene (G1515):
{#57 as #231} 1) a state of national tranquillity; 2) peace between
individuals, ie. harmony, concord; 3) security, safety, prosperity,
felicity, (because peace and harmony make and keep things safe and
prosperous); 4) of the Messiah's peace; 5) *OF* *CHRISTIANITY*, *THE*
*TRANQUIL* *STATE* *OF* *A* *SOUL* *ASSURED* *OF* *ITS* *SALVATION*
*THROUGH* *CHRIST*, *AND* *SO* *FEARING* *NOTHING* *FROM* *GOD* *AND*
*CONTENT* *WITH* *ITS* *EARTHLY* *LOT*, *OF* *WHATSOEVER* *SORT* *THAT*
*IS*; 6) the blessed state of devout and upright men after death; 1a)
exemption from the rage and havoc of war; 4a) the way that leads to peace
(salvation);

} can find no better outlet than the Jewish pettifoggery {ie. practise
legal deception or trickery / quibble about petty points} of the Old
Testament {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #408 as #80, #1, #30, #10, #3, #3, #5, #50, #5, #200, #10,
#1, #10 = paliggenesia (G3824): {#12 as #398} 1) new birth, reproduction,
renewal, recreation, regeneration; 10) of Cicero's restoration to rank and
fortune on his recall from exile; 100) of the restoration of the Jewish
nation after exile; 1000) of the recovery of knowledge by recollection; 1a)
hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to
God, a radical change of mind for the better. The word often used to denote
the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as a
renewal or restoration of life after death; 1b) the renovation of the earth
after the *DELUGE*; 1c) the renewal of the world to take place after its
destruction by fire, as the Stoics taught; 1d) the signal and glorious
change of all things (in heaven and earth) for the better, that restoration
of the primal and perfect condition of things which existed before the fall
of our first parents, which the Jews looked for in connection with the
advent of the Messiah, and which Christians expected in connection with the
visible return of Jesus from heaven.; 1e) other uses;

}. For religious people who, in the solitude of winter, continually seek
ultimate light on their religious problems with the assistance of the
Bible, must eventually become spiritually deformed. The wretched people
strive to extract truths from these Jewish chicaneries {

ie. to quibble: the use of deception or subterfuge to achieve one's purpose
such as the denial that according to HITLER:

The *FASCIST* *MOVEMENT* *IS* *A* *SPONTANEOUS* *RETURN* *TO* *THE*
*TRADITIONS* *OF* *ANCIENT* *ROME* {strength}.

}, where in fact no truths exist. As a result they become embedded in some
rut of thought or other {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #1, #20, #10, #200 = nakar (H5234): {#31 as #231} 1)
to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or
treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to distinguish,
understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a) (Niphal) to disguise
oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign (profane); 2b2) to
misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) to act as alien; 2c2) to disguise
oneself;

} and, unless they possess an exceptionally commonsense mind, degenerate
into religious maniacs.

It is deplorable that the Bible should have been translated into German,
and that the whole of the German people should have thus become exposed to
the whole of this Jewish mumbo jumbo {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #408 as #30, #8, #100, #70, #200 = leros (G3026): {#11 as
#408} 1) *IDLE* *TALK*, *NONSENSE*;

}. So long as the wisdom, particularly of the Old Testament, remained
exclusively in the Latin of the Church, there was little danger that
sensible people would become the victims of illusions as the result of
studying the Bible. But since the Bible became common property, a whole
heap of people have found opened to them lines of religious thought which —
particularly in conjunction with the German characteristic of persistent
and somewhat melancholy meditation — as often as not turned them into
religious maniacs. When one recollects further that the Catholic Church has
elevated to the status of Saints a whole number of madmen, one realises why
movements such as that of the Flagellants came inevitably into existence in
the Middle Ages in Germany.

As a sane German, one is flabbergasted to think that German human beings
could have let themselves be brought to such a pass by Jewish filth and
priestly twaddle, that they were little different from the howling dervish
of the Turks and the negroes, at whom we laugh so scornfully. It angers {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #70, #100, #3, #8, #50 = orge (G3709): {#61 as #231}
1) anger, the natural disposition, temper, character; 2) movement or
agitation of the soul, impulse, desire, any violent emotion, but especially
anger; 3) *ANGER*, wrath, indignation; 4) anger exhibited in punishment,
hence used for punishment itself; 4a) of punishments inflicted by
magistrates;

} one to think that, while in other parts {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #1, #8, #200, #10, #6 = 'achar (H310): {#6 as
#231} 1) after the following part, behind (of place), hinder, afterwards
(of time); 1a) as an adverb; 1a1) behind (of place); 1a2) afterwards (of
time); 1b) as a preposition; 1b1) behind, after (of place); 1b2) after (of
time); 1b3) besides; 1c) after that; 1d) as a substantive; 1d1) hinder
part; 1e) with other prepositions; 1e1) from behind; 1e2) from following
after;

} of the globe {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #30, #70, #6, #30, #40, #10, #600 = `owlam
(H5769): {#38 as #231} 1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever,
ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, *ANCIENT*, *WORLD*; 1a)
ancient time, long time (of past); 1b) (of future); 1b1) for ever, always;
1b2) continuous existence, perpetual; 1b3) everlasting, indefinite or
unending future, eternity;

} religious teaching like that of *CONFUCIUS*, *BUDDHA* and *MOHAMMED*
offers an undeniably broad basis for the religious-minded, Germans should
have been duped by a theological exposition devoid of all honest depth.

PAGE #514 - THE VALUE OF ASTRONOMY

When one seeks reasons for these *PHENOMENA*, *ONE* *IS* *IMMEDIATELY*
*STRUCK* *BY* *THE* *EXTENT* *TO* *WHICH* *THE* *HUMAN* *BRAIN* *REACTS*
*TO* *EXTERNAL* *INFLUENCE* {ie.

HITLER DOES NOT CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF A THEORETICAL NOTION AS KANT
POSTULATES OF A NOUMENON:

I QUOTE: "In the third chapter of the "Analytic of Principles," on
phenomena and noumena, Kant in Critique of Pure Reason (1781 and second
edition 1787) emphasizes that because the categories must always be applied
to data provided by sensibility in order to provide cognition, and because
the data of sensibility are structured by the transcenden­tally ideal forms
of intuition, the categories give us knowledge only of things as they
appear with sensibility ("phenomena," literally "that which appears").

Although through pure understanding (nous in Greek) we may think of objects
independently of their being given in sensibil­ity, we can never cognize
them as such non-sensible entities ("noumena," literally "that which is
thought" as a subject of some 112 mentions). The meaning of Kant's use of
the term "phenomena" is self-evident, but the meaning of "noumena" is not,
since it literally means not "things as they are in­ dependently of
appearing to us" but something more like "things as they are understood by
pure thought." Yet Kant appears to deny that the human understanding can
comprehend things in the latter way."

<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/kant-first-critique-cambridge.pdf>

*THUS* *I* *AM* *PROFFERING* *AN* *INFORMED* *AND* *REASONED* *OPINION*
*AS* *THAT* *WHICH* *IMMANUEL* *KANT* *STATES* *IS* *AN* *IMPOSSIBILITY*
*FOR* *A* *HUMAN* *BEING* *TO* *ACCOMPLISH* *BY* *TRANSCENDENT*
*SAPIENTIAL* *THOUGHT* *AND* *CAPABLY* *DEMONSTRATE* *IT'S* *TEMPORAL*
*CONGRUENCE* *AS* *COHERENCE* *BY* *A* *MATHEMATICAL* *THEORETICAL*
*NOUMENON* *AS* *AN* *INTELLECTUAL* *PROPERTY* *WHICH* *IMMANUEL* *KANT*
*HIMSELF* *CALLS* *NOUMENA* *AS* *THE* *PROOF* *OF* *A* *VALID* *AND*
*RATIONAL* *CONCEPT* *ATTAINED* *BY* *PURE* *THOUGHT* *BUT* *MY*
*ANTAGONIST'S* *OPINIONS* *ARE* *ONLY* *A* *SELF*-*INFATUATION* *WITH*
*DELUSION* *AND* *MORE* *PROPERLY* *UNDERSTOOD* *IN* *TERMS* *OF*
*PSYCHOSIS*.

}. A child {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #50, #5, #70, #200 = neos (G3501): {#18 as #325} 1)
recently born, *YOUNG*, youthful; 2) new;

}, for example, who in its very early years has been frightened {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #30, #200, #1 = yare' (H3372): {#17 as #231} 1) *TO*
*FEAR*, *REVERE*, *BE* *AFRAID*; 2) (TWOT) to shoot, pour; 1a) (Qal); 1a1)
to fear, be afraid; 1a2) to stand in awe of, be awed; 1a3) to fear,
reverence, honour, respect; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) *TO* *BE* *FEARFUL*, *BE*
DREADFUL*, *BE* *FEARED*; 1b2) to cause astonishment and awe, be held in
awe; 1b3) to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe; 1c) (Piel) *TO* *MAKE*
*AFRAID*, *TERRIFY*;

} with the threat {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #20, #4, #2, #200, #5 = dabar (H1696): {#3 as #231}
1) to speak, declare, converse, command, promise, warn, *THREATEN*, sing;
1a) (Qal) to speak; 1b) (Niphal) to speak with one another, talk; 1c)
(Piel); 1c1) to speak; 1c2) to promise; 1d) (Pual) to be spoken; 1e)
(Hithpael) to speak; 1f) (Hiphil) to lead away, put to flight;

} of the bogey-man in the dark, will frequently retain {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #10, #40, #50, #70, #50, #5 = mana` (H4513): {#34
as #231} 1) to withhold, hold back, keep back, refrain, deny, keep
restrain, hinder; 1a) (Qal) *TO* *WITHHOLD*; 1b) (Niphal) to be withheld;

} throughout all the years of its development a fear of entering a dark
room, a cellar or the like; among women a fear of this nature inculcated in
early youth {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #2, #8, #6, #200, #10, #5 = bachuwr (H970): {#49 as
#231} 1) *YOUTH*, young man;

} often persists for a lifetime. On the other hand, there are dangers
which, not ever having come to his notice {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #1, #20, #10, #200 = nakar (H5234): {#31 as #231} 1)
to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or
treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, *NOTICE*; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to distinguish,
understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a) (Niphal) to disguise
oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign (profane); 2b2) to
misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) to act as alien; 2c2) to disguise
oneself;

}, a man {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #2, #8, #6, #200, #10, #5 = bachuwr (H970): {#49 as
#231} 1) youth, young *MAN*;

} completely ignores. A child living in an area exposed to bombing and to
whom the dangers of a bombardment {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #8, #200, #10, #2, #6 = charab (H2717): {#20 as
#231} 1) *TO* *BE* *WASTE*, *LAY* *WASTE*, *MAKE* *DESOLATE*, *BE*
*DESOLATE*, *BE* *IN* *RUINS*; 2) to be dry, be dried up; 3) *TO* *ATTACK*,
*SMITE* *DOWN*, *SLAY*, *FIGHT*; 1a) (Qal) to be waste, be desolate; 1b)
(Niphal); 1b1) to be made desolate; 1b2) desolate (participle); 1c)
(Hiphil) to lay waste, make desolate; 1d) (Hophal) to be laid waste; 2a)
(Qal) to be dried, be dried up; 2b) (Pual) to be dried; 2c) (Hiphil) to dry
up; 2d) (Hophal) to be dried up;

} have not been explained, will regard an enemy air attack as a noisy
firework display, and will not as a rule show the slightest sign of fear.

The essential conclusion to which these considerations leads me is that we
must do everything humanly possible to protect for all time {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #10, #40, #50, #70, #50, #5 = mana` (H4513): {#34
as #231} 1) to withhold, hold back, keep back, refrain, deny, keep
restrain, hinder; 1a) (Qal) to withhold; 1b) (Niphal) to be withheld;

} any further sections of the German people from the danger of mental
deformity {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #10, #100, #8, #50, #8, #50 = eirene (G1515):
{#57 as #231} 1) a state of national tranquillity; 2) peace between
individuals, ie. harmony, concord; 3) security, safety, prosperity,
felicity, (because peace and harmony make and keep things safe and
prosperous); 4) of the Messiah's peace; 5) *OF* *CHRISTIANITY*, *THE*
*TRANQUIL* *STATE* *OF* *A* *SOUL* *ASSURED* *OF* *ITS* *SALVATION*
*THROUGH* *CHRIST*, *AND* *SO* *FEARING* *NOTHING* *FROM* *GOD* *AND*
*CONTENT* *WITH* *ITS* *EARTHLY* *LOT*, *OF* *WHATSOEVER* *SORT* *THAT*
*IS*; 6) the blessed state of devout and upright men after death; 1a)
exemption from the rage and havoc of war; 4a) the way that leads to peace
(salvation);

}, regardless of whether it be religious mania or any other type of
cerebral derangement. For this reason {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #70, #50, #70, #40, #1 = onoma (G3686): {#56 as #231}
1) name: univ. of proper names; 2) the name is used for everything which
the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in
the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, i.e. for one's
rank, authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc.; 3)
persons reckoned up by name; 4) *THE* *CAUSE* *OR* *REASON* *NAMED*: *ON*
*THIS* *ACCOUNT*, *BECAUSE* *HE* *SUFFERS* *AS* *A* *CHRISTIAN*, *FOR*
*THIS* *REASON*;

} I have directed {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #2, #5, #4, #200, #500 = derek (H1870): {#29 as #231}
1) way, road, distance, journey, manner; 1a) road, way, path; 1b) journey;
1c) direction; 1d) manner, habit, way; 1e) of course of life (fig.); 1f) of
moral character (fig.);

} that every town of any importance shall have an observatory, for
astronomy has been shown by experience to be one of the best means at man's
disposal for increasing his knowledge of the universe {

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #450 as #20, #70, #200, #40, #70, #50 = kosmos (G2889): {#23
as #600} 1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order,
government; 2) ornament, decoration, adornment, ie. the arrangement of the
stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3; 3)
the world, the universe; 4) the circle of the earth, the earth; 5) the
inhabitants of the earth, men, the human race; 6) the ungodly multitude;
the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the
cause of Christ; 7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly; 8) any
aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort; 7a) the whole
circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc,
which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God
and are obstacles to the cause of Christ; 8a) of believers only, John 1:29;
3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19;

}, and thus saving him from any tendency towards mental aberration.

Thus the preliminary as provisional conclusion is that there is an SAINT
ANDREWS cause célèbre element within the RSL who had plotted to interpose a
#390 - WREATHS / ROBBERS by a substituted #364 - anti-Semitic ethos through
imposition of an #288 - UMBRA made against my Intellectual Property and
intent upon our BEERSHEBA and other WAR MEMORIAL as 100th year celebrations
since this is associated to #EIGHT {#120 / #360} as it’s #72 - ANTHROPIC
PROTOTYPE:

*BEERSHEBA* {*BEER* {a *WELL*: AUM #288 as [#8, #80, #200] = To cut in,
dig; to search out, *TO* *SPY*; to turn red (with shame); to be ashamed; a
hole; n. Blushing, Pit or *WELL*} SHEBA {*CAPTIVITY*; *OLD* *MAN*;
*REPOSE*; *OATH*}

That it not only shares an organisational / institutional orbital
association to other regimes which are constituted by A-U-M belief,
furthermore it has a connection to a vassal perspective (ie. AS PRINCIPLE
OF #AIDING, #WILLINGLY OR #UNWILLINGLY THE DISSOLUTION OF THE STATE) as
subjugation to mechanised autonomic transformative gnostic process of
extrusion as the "different substance or hypostasis" impetus for Roman
Imperial / Religious Empire Governance which pervaded throughout Europe as
the world created and ruled by a lesser divinity, the demiurge as oligarch.
That the oligarchy ("the rule of the few") or the ecclesiastical hierarchy
adopted by Islam, the Vatican City / State and German Fascism, have often
become instruments of transformation, by insisting upon monarchs ("the rule
of the one") or dictators share power or giving credibility and impetus to
that process of change, such as occurred by the 20 July 1933 signing of the
Concordat with the German Reich, thereby opening the door to governance by
other 'party' elements of society.

And is by it's schema of CATEGORIES OF UNDERSTANDING which shapes and forms
its reality, implicitly and complicity connected to the occurrence of
terrorist acts such as the #288 - EVENTs of New York / Pentagon upon 11
September 2001 or the Las Vegas Mandalay Bay massacre upon 1 October 2017,
but certainly not limited to...

Nous: #30
Time: 11:15 hrs
Date: 2001.9.11
Torah: [#30, #5, #8]@{
#1: Sup: 30; Ego: 30,
#2: Sup: 35; Ego: 5,
#3: Sup: 43; Ego: 8,
Male: #108; Feme: #43
} // #43

Dao: Government without Coercion, Be Chary of War
Tetra: #59 - Massing
I-Ching: H45 - Gathering, Congregation, Clustering, Gathering together
(massing), Finished

Latin: Clemens ... {Clement God} Alt: Haladyah {Yonder is the Strife of
God} {

1. HELPS MAINTAIN PEACE & HARMONY BETWEEN COUNTRIES, PROTECTS CROWN HEADS &
MAKES SUBJECTS OBEDIENT TO SUPERIORS
2. FAITHFULNESS
3. RESPECT AND DEVOTION
4. Thopitus
}

Solomon {Peaceable; perfect; one who recompenses}

Transformative Prototype: HOMOIOS {#304 / #257} / *HETEROS* {#366 / #288}

<http://www.grapple369.com?zen:4,row:5,col:4,nous:30&PROTOTYPE:HETEROS>

***@zen: 4, row: 5, col: 4, nous: 30 [Date: 2001.9.11, Super: #366 /
#12 - Numbing Effect of the Conventional, Abstaining from Desire; I-Ching:
H6 - Contention, Conflict, Arguing, Lawsuit; Tetra: 25 - Contention, Ego:
#288 / #30 - Government without Coercion, Be Chary of War; I-Ching: H45 -
Gathering, Congregation, Clustering, Gathering together (massing),
Finished; Tetra: 59 - Massing]

As I can now since 18 December 2017 associate #288 using the HETEROS
TRANSFORMATIVE PROTOTYPE to the UMBRA (mens rea), Terrorist event of 11
September 2001 (actus rea), christian marriage / Sovereign dynamic and
fascist identity which was lodged in a legal case where I was arrested on
Remembrance Day 11 November 2017 and then struck out on 21 March 2018 as
not being a breach of law.

The problem <http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html> is an issue of
PAIRING {DODECAHEDRON: HERITAGE & ENVIRONMENT / KIN SPIRITS as Cultural
values; community; gives area its collective identity: 5x5 = #65 (25) as
Esoteric Number #325}:

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #6, #300, #9, #10 / #119 as #60, #9, #10, #600 = suwt
(H7750): {#9 as #315 / #42 as #119} 1) to swerve, fall away; 2) to thrust
or force down, out, or away; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to swerve, fall away; 1a2)
those falling away (participle); 2a) subject to censorship or killfile
filtering; 2b) habitually exclude socially or ignore conversationally;

Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #50, #5, #70, #200 = neos (G3501): {#18 as #325} 1)
recently born, *YOUNG*, youthful; 2) new;

Which occurs within the ANTHROPIC PROTOTYPE {ICOSAHEDRON: TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT / TRUTH FORCE as Maintaining an harmonious environment: 7x7 =
#175 (49)} as Esoteric Number: #1225}

#17 / #5 - Act of Nature: {DOUBLE: #5 - Act of Nature {#8 - Transforming
Nature} [#175 / #4 - Nature Amended in its Nature]

41 1 57
49 33 17
9 65 25 = #99 / #297 {#ONE} <-- *AS* *THE* *FOUNDATION* *STONE*
(*USURPING* @1 = *SOVEREIGN* / #CENTRE @5 = *LAST* *WILL*, *TESTAMENT* *OF*
#INR *BEING* *THE* *BINDING* *NORM* (*NORMA* *OBLIGANS* ) *ON* #33 AD)
*MAGIC* *SQUARE

#1 (9) - OUHOUYAH (King-Seraphim) = #1
#9 (8) - HAZIEL (King-Cherubim) = #10
#17 (7) - LEVYAH (King-Throne) = #27 <-- SOVEREIGNTY / PYTHAGOREAN TERNIO
ANAGRAM TO #INR
#25 (6) - NETEHYAH (King-Dominion) = #52 <-- *THEY* *ARE* *AS* *THE* *SONS*
*OF* *DARKNESS* *NOT* *THE* *SONS* *OF* *LIGHT* / *GOD* *AS* #123

#33 (5) - YHOUYAH (King-Powers) = #85 <-- ADAMANT {ie. fixed mind /
dogmatic} / DIAMOND 💍
#41 (4) - HEHAHEL (King-Virtues) = #126
#49 (3) - OHOUEL (King-Principalities) = #175 <-- *VENUS* (7x7 = #49 /
#175) *USE* *OF* *MARRIAGE* *AS* *AN* *ANTHROPIC* *PROTOTYPE*

#57 (2) - NEMAMYAH (King-Archangels) = #232
#65 - *SOLDIER* (1) - DAMBYAN (King-Angels) = #297

Within the metaphysical example below we have equivalent categories #432
that were obtained from a voluntary SMS dialog as temporal associations of
their choosing which conveys the propositional factoid of by their common
association that the propensity for violence increases where there is a
distinct lack of any truth content as a depreciated integrity between
persons:

#432 as [#5, #80, #10, #300, #10, #9, #8, #10]
#432 as [#40, #1, #300, #1, #10, #70, #10]

But we have here a different dialectic progression associated to the GNOMIC
IMPERATIVE instruction set whereby there is an opportunity to obverse any
*OSMOSIS* {ie. the process of gradual or unconscious assimilation between
ideas as it's interior knowledge} which are then conceptually the
intersections between our dispersed meta-descriptor prototypes and we need
to observe how frequent these are within inclusions of further vEVENTS and
then any subsequent COMMON THEME PROTOTYPES such as to know if your partner
is having an affair.

DOLF @ 1748 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017: "This category #432 as [#5, #80,
#10, #300, #10, #9, #8, #10] = epitithemi (G2007): {#10 as #472} 1) in the
active voice; 2) in the middle voice; 1a) to put or lay upon; 1b) to add
to; 2a) *TO* *HAVE* *PUT* *ON*, *BID* *TO* *BE* *LAID* *ON*; 2b) *TO* *LAY*
*OR* *THROW* *ONE'S* *SELF* *UPON*; 2c) *TO* *ATTACK* *ONE*, *TO* *MAKE*
*AN* *ASSAULT* *ON* *ONE*;

ASSAILMENT@{
#1: Sup: 5; Ego: 5,
#2: Sup: 4; Ego: 80,
#3: Sup: 14; Ego: 10,
#4: Sup: 71; Ego: 57,
#5: Sup: 81; Ego: 10,
#6: Sup: 9; Ego: 9,
#7: Sup: 17; Ego: 8,
#8: Sup: 27; Ego: 10,
Male: #228; Feme: #189
}

Tells me that you have loyalty and empathy with the person whom assaulted
me.

I warned you not to make any statement which would incriminate you.”

DOLF @ 1749 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017: "That’s all I need to know.

What a waste of time you are”

DOLF @ 1801 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017: "The lack of truth and waste of time
is conveyed by this category #432 as [#40, #1, #300, #1, #10, #70, #10] =
mataios (G3152): {#11 as #622} 1) *DEVOID* *OF* *FORCE*, *TRUTH*,
*SUCCESS*, *RESULT*; 2) *USELESS*, *OF* *NO* *PURPOSE*;

WORTHLESS@{
#1: Sup: 40; Ego: 40,
#2: Sup: 41; Ego: 1,
#3: Sup: 17; Ego: 57,
#4: Sup: 18; Ego: 1,
#5: Sup: 28; Ego: 10,
#6: Sup: 17; Ego: 70,
#7: Sup: 27; Ego: 10,
Male: #188; Feme: #189
}

There is never going to be forgiveness granted towards you: “But I will
forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath
power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." [Luke 12:5 (KJV)]

- dolf

A REVISION OF THIS DOCUMENT MAY BE OBTAINED AS A PDF DOCUMENT FROM THIS
URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Detrude.pdf>

Initial Post: 7 May 2017
--
YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7OuqWi4vQ>

SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF
NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN*
*CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as
harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a
robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT*

Private “Saint Andrews” Street on the edge of the Central Business District
dated 16th May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as
a Notice of an Application for Planning Permit

<http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>

SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in 1993),
first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie.
Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory
of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven
visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis
[James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day
= #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the
64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather
than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the
macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial
canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER.

<http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>

The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines
a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is permissible to
extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS
REALITY OF HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL
REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] as
EXISTENCE.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip> (Download resources)

After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS
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— IRISH CATHOLIC SAINT PATRICK PLAGUE —

“TREASON ONLY TREASON.
TO BE SURE, TO BE SURE.
THERE IS NO OTHER REASON.
LEPRECHAUN CAUSE SO PURE.

DOES CURSE OUR SOVEREIGN.
AND FELCH THE PAPAL ARSE.
SUCH LOVE WHICH YOU FEIGN.
AS JINGOISTIC PIOUS FARCE.”
Post by dolf
— SAINT PATRICK IRISH CATHOLIC PLAGUE —
“TREASON ONLY TREASON.
TO BE SURE, TO BE SURE.
THERE IS NO OTHER REASON.
LEPRECHAUN CAUSE SO PURE.
DOES CURSE OUR SOVEREIGN.
AND FELCH THE PAPAL ARSE.
SUCH LOVE WHICH YOU FEIGN.
AS JINGOISTIC SOCIAL CURSE.”
SUBJECT WAS: Re: Cardinal George Pell will face trial on homosex-offense
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate
to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make
him
the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in
court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was
asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm,
loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed
one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one
of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell
by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two
boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the
regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers
at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop
in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of
the
details have been legally suppressed and
the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a
statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to
meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek
to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long
time it took for the cases
to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by
dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting
uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims,
and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse
that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic
Church
than any other organization. Ballarat
was a hot spot of abuse: 140
people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing
children,
the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of
the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church
over
decades to effectively respond to the
sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability
of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her
to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with
victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate
read
the judgment and left the room, there was
clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
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Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
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The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
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That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
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To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
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Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
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What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
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Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
I didn't write the article dumb shit born again fraud.
(smiling...)
I'm just shaking my head and you and Patrick. You don't want these
events made public. Still waiting for you power to cause the earth to
shake. You being a fraudulent Born again?
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
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and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
Very funny! In all of this I have NOT ONCE seen ANY OF YOU
come up with a QUOTE from Patrick admitting that he supports
pedophiles, either accidentally or confession.
Patrick just attacks any poster of a article about Pedophilia within
the RCC with lies for the fun of it?
Perhaps because it is a hurtful subject and he and others
have been condemned before for being catholic..as if that
isn't happening now...
Now..where is your good, solid evidence pointing to Patrick
covering up pedophilia and defending pedophiles?
If this is all you have then you don't have a thing.
It is all over the post. His method of defense of Pedophilia and like
you not wanting it made public.
What your Priest lack victims now as Parents are warned.
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Show me some proof. Show me a statement of Patrick admitting
doing this, but more likely than not it is you misconstruing
something he has said.
You are funny.
None of it is funny. You are not funny. The longer that you
use evil, the more entrenched it becomes in your spirit until
one day you have become that evil, and destroyed that wonderful
work done by God that was Matt Brooks.
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia.
Patrick defends the church and the innocent in the church. He also
believes in innocent until proven guilty.
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You empower Patrick.
(Smiling)
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I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
Sure you won't.
-- NEO-FASCIST EMPATHIES EXHIBITED BY GRINDR #231 - YOUTH {[#2, #8, #6,
#200, #10, #5] = bachuwr (H970): {#49 as #231} 1) *YOUTH*, young man; 2)
*HITLER* *YOUTH*} AS A MODUS OPERANDI OF *DETRUDE* {ie. *TO* *THRUST* *OR*
*FORCE* *DOWN*, *DRIVE* *OUT*, *OR* *AWAY*}
(c) 2018 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 7 May, 2018
"BIN IT OR KURB IT.
NOT STREET WISE.
MIRROR SAYS IT ALL.
YA FACE DISGUISE.
DEPRAVITY'S PALL."
<https://www.facebook.com/grapple369/posts/756042427922929>
you enjoying your trip?
I'm an older guy of Dutch / Friesian heritage but born here."
PRINCIPLE?
@1 - #17 - 2017
@2 - #33 - #INR
@3 - #65 - SOLDIER
@4 - #390 - WREATHS / CROWN / AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE 4 JULY 1776
@5 - #288 - UMBRA / BEERSHEBA / 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 (HETEROS)
@6 - #419 - SLAUGHTER
@7 - #391 - HOMOIOS
@8 - #13 - Letters Patent
@9 - #21 - Bequeathed to Sovereign Heirs in perpetuity
@10 - #37 - Non-Deeming Action, Government Administration; I-Ching: H40 -
Release, Deliverance, Taking-Apart, Untangled; Tetra: 21 - Release;
Do you know what that means boy?
It's bigger than even your Dutch Sovereign."
<http://www.grapple369.com/images/ANKH-Fascist-Roman-Catholic-Empire-Governance.jpeg>
[IMAGE: Egyptian ANKH as the basis of Fascist / Roman Catholic {ie.
hymeneal as marriage / sovereign dynamic v's Jewish Torah Intellectus as
Genitive Voluntātus} Empire Governance]
"Yeah. Well. I'm not surprised. you come across as a bit... nutty."
"Hmm... Slander. I see you practice what you preach.
'If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the
bible seriously, one must be already mad.' Aleister Crowley (12 October
1875 – 1 December 1947) [*EXTOLLING* *ADMIRATION* *FOR* *ADOLF* *HITLER'S*
*DOGMA*]
anonymous entity as you have no substantial grounds to refute the assertion
and therefore such a premise must be held to be *LOGICALLY* {
#1: Sup: 30; Ego: 30,
#2: Sup: 19; Ego: 70,
#3: Sup: 22; Ego: 3,
#4: Sup: 32; Ego: 10,
#5: Sup: 52; Ego: 20,
#6: Sup: 41; Ego: 70,
#7: Sup: 10; Ego: 50,
Male: #206; Feme: #253
} // #253
#253 as [#30, #70, #3, #10, #20, #70, #50] = logikos (G3050): {#18 as #403}
1) pertaining to speech or speaking; 2) pertaining to the reason or logic;
2a) spiritual, pertaining to the soul; 2b) agreeable to reason, following
reason, reasonable, *LOGICAL*;
} factual as correct on face value.
<http://www.grapple369.com?time:13.39>
Stratagem, Quelling War; I-Ching: H32 - Perseverance, Endurance, Duration,
Constancy; Tetra: 51 - Constancy, Ego: #357 / #29 - Deeming, Non-Assertion;
I-Ching: H36 - Suppression of the Light, Sinking/Darkening of the Light,
Brilliance injured, Intelligence hidden; Tetra: 67 - Darkening]
You are digging yourself further into a hole."
That if this trinomial HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER a priori as PARADIGM
already has a conception of an INTELLECTUAL TETRAD {#8 - Transformation
Prototype} which as CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY was associated to a LUNAR
event upon the midnight solstice of 21 December 103 BCE and published in 4
BCE is equivalent to the later implementation of PYTHAGOREAN binomial
HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER as the basis for the Julian calendar and the
VIRTUE as MIND: {#1 + #2 = #3} +
TOOLS as SCIENCE: {#3 + #4 = #7} +
POSITION as OPINION: {#5 + #6 = #11 as Collegium of Pontiffs from 510 BCE
as AS PONTIFICATED DEIFIED IGNORANCE BEING NARCISSISM} +
TIME as SENSE: {#7 + #8 = #15}
= #36 (ie. H27 - Realm of its Nature as Heaven - Formula of Universal Law +
H9 - System's Cosmology as Earth - Formula of Humanity)
6x6 = #36 / #111 / #666 {#FIVE AS #CENTRE VALUE TO THE GNOME}
Whilst it may continue to function as an acceptable METHODOLOGY {ARCH KAI
TELOS OIDA: #1 + #2 + #3 +#4 = #10} with an encapsulated sphere of
operation {
41 1 57
49 33 17
9 65 25 = #99 / #297 {#ONE}
42 2 58
50 34 18
10 66 26 = #102 / #306 {#TWO}
43 3 59
51 35 19
11 67 27 = #105 / #315 {#THREE}
44 4 60
52 36 20
12 68 28 = #108 / #324 {#FOUR}
74 81 76
79 77 75
78 73 80 = #231 - #108 = #123 / #693 - #369 = #324 {#TEN} AS RETURN TO
GRECO-ROMAN MAGIC SQUARE BEING ITSELF
}, it is entirely a specious notion to declare it is the root and causal
basis of the perennialist philosophical tradition.
Nous: #73
#1: Sup: 40; Ego: 40,
#2: Sup: 49; Ego: 9,
#3: Sup: 6; Ego: 38,
Male: #95; Feme: #87
} // #330
Dao: Employing Deeming, Daring to Act
Tetra: #7 - Ascent
I-Ching: H46 - Climbing, Moving/Pushing Upward, Ascending
Latin: Gloria {God who comforts the oppressed} Alt: Menkel {Cease Strife
Before God] {
1. HELPS HEAL THE ILLS OF THE SPIRIT, RELEASES FROM PERSECUTORS
2. MEN OF VIRTUE
3. FAITHFULNESS, INDUCES OBEDIENCE IN SUBORDINATES
4. Homoth
}
Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {Sovereign; one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}; #15 CE
Transformative Prototype: *HOMOIOS* {#450 / #375 - *RESOLVES* TO #231 ON
THE SIXTH PLANE} / HETEROS {#452 / #376}
<http://www.grapple369.com?zen:7,row:7,col:7,nous:73>
Humility at Using 'Beneath'; I-Ching: H64 - Ferrying Incomplete, Before
Completion, Not Yet Fording, Not yet completed; Tetra: 78 - On the Verge,
Ego: #375 / #73 - Employing Deeming, Daring to Act; I-Ching: H46 -
Climbing, Moving/Pushing Upward, Ascending; Tetra: 7 - Ascent]
@5 - {RHYTHM: 5 x #41 = #205 as #5 - last will, testament: Faciens
misericordiam {#5 - Granting forgiveness} (1308 CE) / CANON: RHYTHM &
HARMONY / Do Not Steal} / DISCRIMINATING NORM (HUMAN NATURE),
#17 / #5 - Act of Nature: {DOUBLE: #5 - Act of Nature {#8 - Transforming
Nature} [#175 / #4 - Nature Amended in its Nature]
@6 - {CAUSE AND EFFECT: 6 x #41 = #246 as #6 - goal, object, purpose,
intention: Ad providam {#6 - To Foresee / For Providence} (1312 CE) /
IMPLEMENTATION: HETEROS (binomial / bifurcated) THEORY OF NUMBER / Do Not
Bear False Witness} / BINDING NORM (NORMA OBLIGANS),
#20 / #8 - Transforming Nature {DOUBLE: #6 - Form of Nature {#9 -
Autonomous Nature} [#505 / #1 - Nature Contains Nature]
SOVEREIGN PRINCIPLE CHARACTERISTIC HERE
@7 - {ENGENDERING / ENUMERATE: 7 x #41 = #287 as #7 - signification,
import: Vox in excelso {#7 - The voice on high} (1312 CE) / LIMIT: #INR AS
TERNIO ANAGRAM / Do Not Covet} MANIFESTING NORM (NORMA DENUNTIANS). [LATIN
definition: VOLUNTĀTIS]
7 x #41 = #287 as [#1, #50, #1, #3, #20, #1, #10, #1, #200] = anagkaios
(G316): {#9 as #356} 1) necessary; 1a) what one can not do without,
indispensable; 1b) connected by bonds of nature or friendship; 1c) what
ought according to the law of duty be done, what is required by the
circumstances;
#22 / #10 - Totality of Nature {DOUBLE: #7 - Engendering Nature {#10 -
Totality of Nature}} [#870 / #6 - Form of Nature]
THE HOMOIOS PROTOTYPE UTILIZES THE HETERO SPIROGYRA ORDER SQUARE WHEREAS
THE HETEROS ('CHRIST MURDEROUS') PROTOTYPE UTILIZES THE GRECO-ROMAN MAGIC
SQUARE.
Thus you see how religionist protagonists are defeated in relation to
GENDER and SEXUAL IDENTITY.
YOUTUBE: "Doctor Who - Victory of the Daleks - The Paradigm Daleks"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntKtkOE3DLI>
Deus ex machina.
Didn’t Hitler praise the machina as Volkswagen (much like ELON MUSK) also
lament against the German Bible translation as derangement of MIND in
deference to returning to the neo-platonic (ie. Pythagorean binomial
HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER) as SCIENCE / OPINION being the traditions of
Ancient Rome?
Makes perfect SENSE to me that you are not only GODLESS but a NEO-FASCIST.
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[IMAGES: An Australian Irish / Roman Catholic wedding of circa 1920-30 as
preceding the use of the swastika by Nazi Germany]
GRATITUDE TO THE JESUITS — PROTESTANT FANATICISM— SIMILARITIES BETWEEN
GERMANY AND ITALY — DANTE AND LUTHER — THE DUCE IS ONE OF THE CAESARS — THE
MARCH ON ROME — A TURNING POINT IN HISTORY — DELIGHTFUL ITALIAN TOWNS —
"But Luther had the merit of rising against the Pope and the organisation
of the Church. It was the first of the great revolutions. And thanks to his
translation of the Bible, Luther replaced our dialects by the great German
language!
It's remarkable to observe the resemblances between the evolution of
Germany and that of Italy. The creators of the language, Dante and Luther,
rose against the ecumenical desires of the papacy.
Each of the two nations was led to unity, against the dynastic interests,
by one man. They achieved their unity against the will of the Pope." [PAGE
#5: LUTHER, DANTE AND MUSSOLINI]
*FASCIST* *MOVEMENT* *IS* *A* *SPONTANEOUS* *RETURN* *TO* *THE*
*TRADITIONS* *OF* *ANCIENT* *ROME* {strength}.”
the Holocaust) WAS A SPECIAL GUEST. He was an Senior Group Leader and
General of Police as well as chief of the Reich Main Security Office
including the Gestapo: “*THE* *ATTEMPT* *TO* *CREATE* *A* *JEWISH* *STATE*
*WILL* *BE* *A* *FAILURE*.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus Augustus; 331/332 – 26 June 363 CE) SHOULD BE
CIRCULATED IN MILLIONS. WHAT WONDERFUL INTELLIGENCE, WHAT DISCERNMENT, ALL
THE WISDOM OF ANTIQUITY!
IT'S EXTRA-ORDINARY: Julian was a man of unusually complex character: he
was "the military commander, the theosophist, the social reformer, and the
man of letters". *HE* *WAS* *THE* *LAST* *NON*-*CHRISTIAN* *RULER* *OF*
*THE* *ROMAN* *EMPIRE*, *AND* *HE* *BELIEVED* *THAT* *IT* *WAS* *NECESSARY*
*TO* *RESTORE* *THE* *EMPIRE'S* *ANCIENT* *ROMAN* *VALUES* *AND*
*TRADITIONS* *IN* *ORDER* *TO* *SAVE* *IT* *FROM* *DISSOLUTION*.
He revive traditional Roman religious practices at the expense of
Christianity. Julian also forbade the Christians from teaching classical
texts and learning. His rejection of the Christianity imposed on him in his
youth, and his *PROMOTION* *OF* *NEOPLATONIC* *HELLENISM* {ie. advocated by
IRISH THEOLOGIAN John Scotus Eriugena (c. 815 – c. 877) as consisting of
Pythagorean binomial HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER however the PRE-PLATONIC
advocate Philolaus (470-385 BCE) considered the Natural Year to be 364.5
days} in its place caused him to be remembered as Julian the Apostate by
the church. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)>]"
MENTAL DISEASES — EFFECTS OF STUDY OF THE BIBLE THEREON — RELIGIOUS MANIA —
PAGE #512 - IRREPLACEABLE MEN MUST AVOID RISKS
The topic of conversation {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #20, #4, #2, #200, #5 = dabar (H1696): {#3 as #231}
1) to speak, declare, converse, command, promise, warn, threaten, sing; 1a)
(Qal) to speak; 1b) (Niphal) *TO* *SPEAK* *WITH* *ONE* *ANOTHER*, *TALK*;
1c) (Piel); 1c1) *TO* *SPEAK*; 1c2) to promise; 1d) (Pual) to be spoken;
1e) (Hithpael) to speak; 1f) (Hiphil) to lead away, put to flight;
} was the exceptionally large {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #200, #8, #10, #2, #6 = rachab (H7337): {#37 as
#231} 1) to be or grow wide, be or grow large; 1a) (Qal) to be widened, be
enlarged; 1b) (Niphal) broad or roomy pasture (participle); 1c) (Hiphil);
1c1) *TO* *MAKE* *LARGE*; 1c2) to enlarge;
} number of cases of mental disease {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #10, #7, #200, #8 = zarach (H2224): {#1 as #231}
1) to rise, come forth, break out, arise, rise up, shine; 1a) (Qal); 1a1)
to rise; 1a2) to come out, appear; #6, #5, #9, #5, #200, #6 = taher
(H2891): {#2 as #231} 1) to be clean, be pure; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to be clean
(physically - *OF* *DISEASE*); 1a2) to be clean ceremonially; 1a3) to
purify, be clean morally, made clean; 1b) (Piel); 1b1) to cleanse, purify;
1b1a) physically; 1b1b) ceremonially; 1b1c) morally; 1b2) to pronounce
clean; 1b3) to perform the ceremony of cleansing; 1c) (Pual) to be
cleansed, be pronounced clean; 1d) (Hithpael); 1d1) to purify oneself;
1d1a) ceremonially; 1d1b) morally; 1d2) to present oneself for
purification;
} in Finland. Among the causes {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #200, #1, #10, #500 = ra'ah (H7200): {#40 as #231} 1)
to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to see; 1a2)
to see, perceive; 1a3) to see, have vision; 1a4) to look at, see, regard,
look after, see after, learn about, observe, watch, look upon, look out,
find out; 1a5) to see, observe, consider, look at, give attention to,
discern, distinguish; 1a6) to look at, gaze at; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to
appear, present oneself; 1b2) to be seen; 1b3) to be visible; 1c) (Pual) to
be seen; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to see, show; 1d2) to cause to look
intently at, behold, cause to gaze at; 1e) (Hophal); 1e1) to be caused to
see, be shown; 1e2) to be exhibited to; 1f) (Hithpael) to look at each
other, face;
} put forward as possible explanations of the vulnerability of the Finns to
these types of diseases {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #10, #1, #200, #9, #1, #10 = iaomai (G2390): {#58 as
#231} 1) to cure, heal; 2) to make whole; 2a) to free from errors and sins,
to bring about (one's) salvation;
} were—the Aurora Borealis and the strong {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #20, #3, #2, #6, #200 = gibbowr (H1368): {#33 as
#231} 1) strong, mighty n m; 2) strong man, brave man, mighty man;
} inclination prevalent among Finns to worry unduly {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #408 as #4, #1, #3, #400 = da'ag (H1672): {#1 as #8} 1) to
fear, be anxious, be concerned, be afraid, be careful; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to
be anxious, be concerned; 1a2) to fear, dread;
} over religious problems {
{#57 as #231} 1) a state of national tranquillity; 2) peace between
individuals, i.e. harmony, concord; 3) security, safety, prosperity,
felicity, (because peace and harmony make and keep things safe and
prosperous); 4) of the Messiah's peace; 5) of Christianity, the tranquil
state of a soul assured of its salvation through Christ, and so fearing
nothing from God and content with its earthly lot, of whatsoever sort that
is; 6) the blessed state of devout and upright men after death; 1a)
exemption from the rage and havoc of war; 4a) the way that leads to peace
(salvation);
}. In Finland the farms are often as much as thirty to fifty miles apart,
and the inhabitants {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #80, #1, #100, #5, #80, #10, #4, #8, #40, #70, #10 =
parepidemos (G3927): {#13 as #598} 1) one who comes from a foreign country
into a city or land to reside there by the side of the natives; 2) a
stranger; 3) sojourning in a strange place, a foreigner; 4) in the NT
metaphor in reference to heaven as the native country, one who sojourns on
earth;
}, condemned, particularly in winter, to a comparatively isolated {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #60, #5, #20, #30, #10, #50, #1, #50 = ekklino
(G1578): {#62 as #231} 1) to turn aside, deviate (from the right way and
course); 2) to turn (one's self) away, to turn away from, keep aloof from
one's society; 3) to shun one;
} existence, feel the need of mental exercise; an exceptionally strong {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #20, #3, #2, #200 = geber (H1397): {#46 as #231}
1) man, strong man, warrior (emphasising strength or ability to fight);
} tendency to religious surmise {
{#52 as #231} 1) to advise, consult, give counsel, counsel, purpose,
devise, plan; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to advise, counsel, give counsel, consult;
1a2) counsellor (participle); 1b) (Niphal) to consult together, exchange
counsel, deliberate, counsel together; 1c) (Hithpael) to conspire;
} is therefore understandable {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #1, #20, #10, #200 = nakar (H5234): {#31 as #231} 1)
to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or
treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to distinguish,
understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a) (Niphal) to disguise
oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign (profane); 2b2) to
misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) to act as alien; 2c2) to disguise
oneself;
}.
PAGE #513 - GERMAN BIBLE TRANSLATION CONDEMNED
It is a great pity that this tendency towards religious thought {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #70, #50, #70, #40, #1 = onoma (G3686): {#56 as #231}
1) name: universe of proper names; 2) the name is used for everything which
the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in
the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, ie. for one's rank,
authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc.; 3)
persons reckoned up by name; 4) *THE* *CAUSE* *OR* *REASON* *NAMED*: *ON*
*THIS* *ACCOUNT*, *BECAUSE* *HE* *SUFFERS* *AS* *A* *CHRISTIAN*, *FOR*
*THIS* *REASON*;
{#57 as #231} 1) a state of national tranquillity; 2) peace between
individuals, ie. harmony, concord; 3) security, safety, prosperity,
felicity, (because peace and harmony make and keep things safe and
prosperous); 4) of the Messiah's peace; 5) *OF* *CHRISTIANITY*, *THE*
*TRANQUIL* *STATE* *OF* *A* *SOUL* *ASSURED* *OF* *ITS* *SALVATION*
*THROUGH* *CHRIST*, *AND* *SO* *FEARING* *NOTHING* *FROM* *GOD* *AND*
*CONTENT* *WITH* *ITS* *EARTHLY* *LOT*, *OF* *WHATSOEVER* *SORT* *THAT*
*IS*; 6) the blessed state of devout and upright men after death; 1a)
exemption from the rage and havoc of war; 4a) the way that leads to peace
(salvation);
} can find no better outlet than the Jewish pettifoggery {ie. practise
legal deception or trickery / quibble about petty points} of the Old
Testament {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #408 as #80, #1, #30, #10, #3, #3, #5, #50, #5, #200, #10,
#1, #10 = paliggenesia (G3824): {#12 as #398} 1) new birth, reproduction,
renewal, recreation, regeneration; 10) of Cicero's restoration to rank and
fortune on his recall from exile; 100) of the restoration of the Jewish
nation after exile; 1000) of the recovery of knowledge by recollection; 1a)
hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to
God, a radical change of mind for the better. The word often used to denote
the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as a
renewal or restoration of life after death; 1b) the renovation of the earth
after the *DELUGE*; 1c) the renewal of the world to take place after its
destruction by fire, as the Stoics taught; 1d) the signal and glorious
change of all things (in heaven and earth) for the better, that restoration
of the primal and perfect condition of things which existed before the fall
of our first parents, which the Jews looked for in connection with the
advent of the Messiah, and which Christians expected in connection with the
visible return of Jesus from heaven.; 1e) other uses;
}. For religious people who, in the solitude of winter, continually seek
ultimate light on their religious problems with the assistance of the
Bible, must eventually become spiritually deformed. The wretched people
strive to extract truths from these Jewish chicaneries {
ie. to quibble: the use of deception or subterfuge to achieve one's purpose
The *FASCIST* *MOVEMENT* *IS* *A* *SPONTANEOUS* *RETURN* *TO* *THE*
*TRADITIONS* *OF* *ANCIENT* *ROME* {strength}.
}, where in fact no truths exist. As a result they become embedded in some
rut of thought or other {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #1, #20, #10, #200 = nakar (H5234): {#31 as #231} 1)
to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or
treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to distinguish,
understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a) (Niphal) to disguise
oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign (profane); 2b2) to
misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) to act as alien; 2c2) to disguise
oneself;
} and, unless they possess an exceptionally commonsense mind, degenerate
into religious maniacs.
It is deplorable that the Bible should have been translated into German,
and that the whole of the German people should have thus become exposed to
the whole of this Jewish mumbo jumbo {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #408 as #30, #8, #100, #70, #200 = leros (G3026): {#11 as
#408} 1) *IDLE* *TALK*, *NONSENSE*;
}. So long as the wisdom, particularly of the Old Testament, remained
exclusively in the Latin of the Church, there was little danger that
sensible people would become the victims of illusions as the result of
studying the Bible. But since the Bible became common property, a whole
heap of people have found opened to them lines of religious thought which —
particularly in conjunction with the German characteristic of persistent
and somewhat melancholy meditation — as often as not turned them into
religious maniacs. When one recollects further that the Catholic Church has
elevated to the status of Saints a whole number of madmen, one realises why
movements such as that of the Flagellants came inevitably into existence in
the Middle Ages in Germany.
As a sane German, one is flabbergasted to think that German human beings
could have let themselves be brought to such a pass by Jewish filth and
priestly twaddle, that they were little different from the howling dervish
of the Turks and the negroes, at whom we laugh so scornfully. It angers {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #70, #100, #3, #8, #50 = orge (G3709): {#61 as #231}
1) anger, the natural disposition, temper, character; 2) movement or
agitation of the soul, impulse, desire, any violent emotion, but especially
anger; 3) *ANGER*, wrath, indignation; 4) anger exhibited in punishment,
hence used for punishment itself; 4a) of punishments inflicted by
magistrates;
} one to think that, while in other parts {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #1, #8, #200, #10, #6 = 'achar (H310): {#6 as
#231} 1) after the following part, behind (of place), hinder, afterwards
(of time); 1a) as an adverb; 1a1) behind (of place); 1a2) afterwards (of
time); 1b) as a preposition; 1b1) behind, after (of place); 1b2) after (of
time); 1b3) besides; 1c) after that; 1d) as a substantive; 1d1) hinder
part; 1e) with other prepositions; 1e1) from behind; 1e2) from following
after;
} of the globe {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #30, #70, #6, #30, #40, #10, #600 = `owlam
(H5769): {#38 as #231} 1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever,
ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, *ANCIENT*, *WORLD*; 1a)
ancient time, long time (of past); 1b) (of future); 1b1) for ever, always;
1b2) continuous existence, perpetual; 1b3) everlasting, indefinite or
unending future, eternity;
} religious teaching like that of *CONFUCIUS*, *BUDDHA* and *MOHAMMED*
offers an undeniably broad basis for the religious-minded, Germans should
have been duped by a theological exposition devoid of all honest depth.
PAGE #514 - THE VALUE OF ASTRONOMY
When one seeks reasons for these *PHENOMENA*, *ONE* *IS* *IMMEDIATELY*
*STRUCK* *BY* *THE* *EXTENT* *TO* *WHICH* *THE* *HUMAN* *BRAIN* *REACTS*
*TO* *EXTERNAL* *INFLUENCE* {ie.
HITLER DOES NOT CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF A THEORETICAL NOTION AS KANT
I QUOTE: "In the third chapter of the "Analytic of Principles," on
phenomena and noumena, Kant in Critique of Pure Reason (1781 and second
edition 1787) emphasizes that because the categories must always be applied
to data provided by sensibility in order to provide cognition, and because
the data of sensibility are structured by the transcenden­tally ideal forms
of intuition, the categories give us knowledge only of things as they
appear with sensibility ("phenomena," literally "that which appears").
Although through pure understanding (nous in Greek) we may think of objects
independently of their being given in sensibil­ity, we can never cognize
them as such non-sensible entities ("noumena," literally "that which is
thought" as a subject of some 112 mentions). The meaning of Kant's use of
the term "phenomena" is self-evident, but the meaning of "noumena" is not,
since it literally means not "things as they are in­ dependently of
appearing to us" but something more like "things as they are understood by
pure thought." Yet Kant appears to deny that the human understanding can
comprehend things in the latter way."
<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/kant-first-critique-cambridge.pdf>
*THUS* *I* *AM* *PROFFERING* *AN* *INFORMED* *AND* *REASONED* *OPINION*
*AS* *THAT* *WHICH* *IMMANUEL* *KANT* *STATES* *IS* *AN* *IMPOSSIBILITY*
*FOR* *A* *HUMAN* *BEING* *TO* *ACCOMPLISH* *BY* *TRANSCENDENT*
*SAPIENTIAL* *THOUGHT* *AND* *CAPABLY* *DEMONSTRATE* *IT'S* *TEMPORAL*
*CONGRUENCE* *AS* *COHERENCE* *BY* *A* *MATHEMATICAL* *THEORETICAL*
*NOUMENON* *AS* *AN* *INTELLECTUAL* *PROPERTY* *WHICH* *IMMANUEL* *KANT*
*HIMSELF* *CALLS* *NOUMENA* *AS* *THE* *PROOF* *OF* *A* *VALID* *AND*
*RATIONAL* *CONCEPT* *ATTAINED* *BY* *PURE* *THOUGHT* *BUT* *MY*
*ANTAGONIST'S* *OPINIONS* *ARE* *ONLY* *A* *SELF*-*INFATUATION* *WITH*
*DELUSION* *AND* *MORE* *PROPERLY* *UNDERSTOOD* *IN* *TERMS* *OF*
*PSYCHOSIS*.
}. A child {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #50, #5, #70, #200 = neos (G3501): {#18 as #325} 1)
recently born, *YOUNG*, youthful; 2) new;
}, for example, who in its very early years has been frightened {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #30, #200, #1 = yare' (H3372): {#17 as #231} 1) *TO*
*FEAR*, *REVERE*, *BE* *AFRAID*; 2) (TWOT) to shoot, pour; 1a) (Qal); 1a1)
to fear, be afraid; 1a2) to stand in awe of, be awed; 1a3) to fear,
reverence, honour, respect; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) *TO* *BE* *FEARFUL*, *BE*
DREADFUL*, *BE* *FEARED*; 1b2) to cause astonishment and awe, be held in
awe; 1b3) to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe; 1c) (Piel) *TO* *MAKE*
*AFRAID*, *TERRIFY*;
} with the threat {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #20, #4, #2, #200, #5 = dabar (H1696): {#3 as #231}
1) to speak, declare, converse, command, promise, warn, *THREATEN*, sing;
1a) (Qal) to speak; 1b) (Niphal) to speak with one another, talk; 1c)
(Piel); 1c1) to speak; 1c2) to promise; 1d) (Pual) to be spoken; 1e)
(Hithpael) to speak; 1f) (Hiphil) to lead away, put to flight;
} of the bogey-man in the dark, will frequently retain {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #10, #40, #50, #70, #50, #5 = mana` (H4513): {#34
as #231} 1) to withhold, hold back, keep back, refrain, deny, keep
restrain, hinder; 1a) (Qal) *TO* *WITHHOLD*; 1b) (Niphal) to be withheld;
} throughout all the years of its development a fear of entering a dark
room, a cellar or the like; among women a fear of this nature inculcated in
early youth {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #2, #8, #6, #200, #10, #5 = bachuwr (H970): {#49 as
#231} 1) *YOUTH*, young man;
} often persists for a lifetime. On the other hand, there are dangers
which, not ever having come to his notice {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #1, #20, #10, #200 = nakar (H5234): {#31 as #231} 1)
to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or
treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, *NOTICE*; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to distinguish,
understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a) (Niphal) to disguise
oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign (profane); 2b2) to
misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) to act as alien; 2c2) to disguise
oneself;
}, a man {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #2, #8, #6, #200, #10, #5 = bachuwr (H970): {#49 as
#231} 1) youth, young *MAN*;
} completely ignores. A child living in an area exposed to bombing and to
whom the dangers of a bombardment {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #5, #8, #200, #10, #2, #6 = charab (H2717): {#20 as
#231} 1) *TO* *BE* *WASTE*, *LAY* *WASTE*, *MAKE* *DESOLATE*, *BE*
*DESOLATE*, *BE* *IN* *RUINS*; 2) to be dry, be dried up; 3) *TO* *ATTACK*,
*SMITE* *DOWN*, *SLAY*, *FIGHT*; 1a) (Qal) to be waste, be desolate; 1b)
(Niphal); 1b1) to be made desolate; 1b2) desolate (participle); 1c)
(Hiphil) to lay waste, make desolate; 1d) (Hophal) to be laid waste; 2a)
(Qal) to be dried, be dried up; 2b) (Pual) to be dried; 2c) (Hiphil) to dry
up; 2d) (Hophal) to be dried up;
} have not been explained, will regard an enemy air attack as a noisy
firework display, and will not as a rule show the slightest sign of fear.
The essential conclusion to which these considerations leads me is that we
must do everything humanly possible to protect for all time {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #6, #10, #40, #50, #70, #50, #5 = mana` (H4513): {#34
as #231} 1) to withhold, hold back, keep back, refrain, deny, keep
restrain, hinder; 1a) (Qal) to withhold; 1b) (Niphal) to be withheld;
} any further sections of the German people from the danger of mental
deformity {
{#57 as #231} 1) a state of national tranquillity; 2) peace between
individuals, ie. harmony, concord; 3) security, safety, prosperity,
felicity, (because peace and harmony make and keep things safe and
prosperous); 4) of the Messiah's peace; 5) *OF* *CHRISTIANITY*, *THE*
*TRANQUIL* *STATE* *OF* *A* *SOUL* *ASSURED* *OF* *ITS* *SALVATION*
*THROUGH* *CHRIST*, *AND* *SO* *FEARING* *NOTHING* *FROM* *GOD* *AND*
*CONTENT* *WITH* *ITS* *EARTHLY* *LOT*, *OF* *WHATSOEVER* *SORT* *THAT*
*IS*; 6) the blessed state of devout and upright men after death; 1a)
exemption from the rage and havoc of war; 4a) the way that leads to peace
(salvation);
}, regardless of whether it be religious mania or any other type of
cerebral derangement. For this reason {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #70, #50, #70, #40, #1 = onoma (G3686): {#56 as #231}
1) name: univ. of proper names; 2) the name is used for everything which
the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in
the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, i.e. for one's
rank, authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc.; 3)
persons reckoned up by name; 4) *THE* *CAUSE* *OR* *REASON* *NAMED*: *ON*
*THIS* *ACCOUNT*, *BECAUSE* *HE* *SUFFERS* *AS* *A* *CHRISTIAN*, *FOR*
*THIS* *REASON*;
} I have directed {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #231 as #2, #5, #4, #200, #500 = derek (H1870): {#29 as #231}
1) way, road, distance, journey, manner; 1a) road, way, path; 1b) journey;
1c) direction; 1d) manner, habit, way; 1e) of course of life (fig.); 1f) of
moral character (fig.);
} that every town of any importance shall have an observatory, for
astronomy has been shown by experience to be one of the best means at man's
disposal for increasing his knowledge of the universe {
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #450 as #20, #70, #200, #40, #70, #50 = kosmos (G2889): {#23
as #600} 1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order,
government; 2) ornament, decoration, adornment, ie. the arrangement of the
stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3; 3)
the world, the universe; 4) the circle of the earth, the earth; 5) the
inhabitants of the earth, men, the human race; 6) the ungodly multitude;
the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the
cause of Christ; 7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly; 8) any
aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort; 7a) the whole
circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc,
which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God
and are obstacles to the cause of Christ; 8a) of believers only, John 1:29;
3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19;
}, and thus saving him from any tendency towards mental aberration.
Thus the preliminary as provisional conclusion is that there is an SAINT
ANDREWS cause célèbre element within the RSL who had plotted to interpose a
#390 - WREATHS / ROBBERS by a substituted #364 - anti-Semitic ethos through
imposition of an #288 - UMBRA made against my Intellectual Property and
intent upon our BEERSHEBA and other WAR MEMORIAL as 100th year celebrations
since this is associated to #EIGHT {#120 / #360} as it’s #72 - ANTHROPIC
*BEERSHEBA* {*BEER* {a *WELL*: AUM #288 as [#8, #80, #200] = To cut in,
dig; to search out, *TO* *SPY*; to turn red (with shame); to be ashamed; a
hole; n. Blushing, Pit or *WELL*} SHEBA {*CAPTIVITY*; *OLD* *MAN*;
*REPOSE*; *OATH*}
That it not only shares an organisational / institutional orbital
association to other regimes which are constituted by A-U-M belief,
furthermore it has a connection to a vassal perspective (ie. AS PRINCIPLE
OF #AIDING, #WILLINGLY OR #UNWILLINGLY THE DISSOLUTION OF THE STATE) as
subjugation to mechanised autonomic transformative gnostic process of
extrusion as the "different substance or hypostasis" impetus for Roman
Imperial / Religious Empire Governance which pervaded throughout Europe as
the world created and ruled by a lesser divinity, the demiurge as oligarch.
That the oligarchy ("the rule of the few") or the ecclesiastical hierarchy
adopted by Islam, the Vatican City / State and German Fascism, have often
become instruments of transformation, by insisting upon monarchs ("the rule
of the one") or dictators share power or giving credibility and impetus to
that process of change, such as occurred by the 20 July 1933 signing of the
Concordat with the German Reich, thereby opening the door to governance by
other 'party' elements of society.
And is by it's schema of CATEGORIES OF UNDERSTANDING which shapes and forms
its reality, implicitly and complicity connected to the occurrence of
terrorist acts such as the #288 - EVENTs of New York / Pentagon upon 11
September 2001 or the Las Vegas Mandalay Bay massacre upon 1 October 2017,
but certainly not limited to...
Nous: #30
Time: 11:15 hrs
Date: 2001.9.11
#1: Sup: 30; Ego: 30,
#2: Sup: 35; Ego: 5,
#3: Sup: 43; Ego: 8,
Male: #108; Feme: #43
} // #43
Dao: Government without Coercion, Be Chary of War
Tetra: #59 - Massing
I-Ching: H45 - Gathering, Congregation, Clustering, Gathering together
(massing), Finished
Latin: Clemens ... {Clement God} Alt: Haladyah {Yonder is the Strife of
God} {
1. HELPS MAINTAIN PEACE & HARMONY BETWEEN COUNTRIES, PROTECTS CROWN HEADS &
MAKES SUBJECTS OBEDIENT TO SUPERIORS
2. FAITHFULNESS
3. RESPECT AND DEVOTION
4. Thopitus
}
Solomon {Peaceable; perfect; one who recompenses}
Transformative Prototype: HOMOIOS {#304 / #257} / *HETEROS* {#366 / #288}
<http://www.grapple369.com?zen:4,row:5,col:4,nous:30&PROTOTYPE:HETEROS>
#288 / #30 - Government without Coercion, Be Chary of War; I-Ching: H45 -
Gathering, Congregation, Clustering, Gathering together (massing),
Finished; Tetra: 59 - Massing]
As I can now since 18 December 2017 associate #288 using the HETEROS
TRANSFORMATIVE PROTOTYPE to the UMBRA (mens rea), Terrorist event of 11
September 2001 (actus rea), christian marriage / Sovereign dynamic and
fascist identity which was lodged in a legal case where I was arrested on
Remembrance Day 11 November 2017 and then struck out on 21 March 2018 as
not being a breach of law.
The problem <http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html> is an issue of
PAIRING {DODECAHEDRON: HERITAGE & ENVIRONMENT / KIN SPIRITS as Cultural
values; community; gives area its collective identity: 5x5 = #65 (25) as
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #6, #300, #9, #10 / #119 as #60, #9, #10, #600 = suwt
(H7750): {#9 as #315 / #42 as #119} 1) to swerve, fall away; 2) to thrust
or force down, out, or away; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to swerve, fall away; 1a2)
those falling away (participle); 2a) subject to censorship or killfile
filtering; 2b) habitually exclude socially or ignore conversationally;
Y-M-T-A IDEA: #325 as #50, #5, #70, #200 = neos (G3501): {#18 as #325} 1)
recently born, *YOUNG*, youthful; 2) new;
Which occurs within the ANTHROPIC PROTOTYPE {ICOSAHEDRON: TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT / TRUTH FORCE as Maintaining an harmonious environment: 7x7 =
#175 (49)} as Esoteric Number: #1225}
#17 / #5 - Act of Nature: {DOUBLE: #5 - Act of Nature {#8 - Transforming
Nature} [#175 / #4 - Nature Amended in its Nature]
41 1 57
49 33 17
9 65 25 = #99 / #297 {#ONE} <-- *AS* *THE* *FOUNDATION* *STONE*
#INR *BEING* *THE* *BINDING* *NORM* (*NORMA* *OBLIGANS* ) *ON* #33 AD)
*MAGIC* *SQUARE
#1 (9) - OUHOUYAH (King-Seraphim) = #1
#9 (8) - HAZIEL (King-Cherubim) = #10
#17 (7) - LEVYAH (King-Throne) = #27 <-- SOVEREIGNTY / PYTHAGOREAN TERNIO
ANAGRAM TO #INR
#25 (6) - NETEHYAH (King-Dominion) = #52 <-- *THEY* *ARE* *AS* *THE* *SONS*
*OF* *DARKNESS* *NOT* *THE* *SONS* *OF* *LIGHT* / *GOD* *AS* #123
#33 (5) - YHOUYAH (King-Powers) = #85 <-- ADAMANT {ie. fixed mind /
dogmatic} / DIAMOND 💍
#41 (4) - HEHAHEL (King-Virtues) = #126
#49 (3) - OHOUEL (King-Principalities) = #175 <-- *VENUS* (7x7 = #49 /
#175) *USE* *OF* *MARRIAGE* *AS* *AN* *ANTHROPIC* *PROTOTYPE*
#57 (2) - NEMAMYAH (King-Archangels) = #232
#65 - *SOLDIER* (1) - DAMBYAN (King-Angels) = #297
Within the metaphysical example below we have equivalent categories #432
that were obtained from a voluntary SMS dialog as temporal associations of
their choosing which conveys the propositional factoid of by their common
association that the propensity for violence increases where there is a
distinct lack of any truth content as a depreciated integrity between
#432 as [#5, #80, #10, #300, #10, #9, #8, #10]
#432 as [#40, #1, #300, #1, #10, #70, #10]
But we have here a different dialectic progression associated to the GNOMIC
IMPERATIVE instruction set whereby there is an opportunity to obverse any
*OSMOSIS* {ie. the process of gradual or unconscious assimilation between
ideas as it's interior knowledge} which are then conceptually the
intersections between our dispersed meta-descriptor prototypes and we need
to observe how frequent these are within inclusions of further vEVENTS and
then any subsequent COMMON THEME PROTOTYPES such as to know if your partner
is having an affair.
#10, #300, #10, #9, #8, #10] = epitithemi (G2007): {#10 as #472} 1) in the
active voice; 2) in the middle voice; 1a) to put or lay upon; 1b) to add
to; 2a) *TO* *HAVE* *PUT* *ON*, *BID* *TO* *BE* *LAID* *ON*; 2b) *TO* *LAY*
*OR* *THROW* *ONE'S* *SELF* *UPON*; 2c) *TO* *ATTACK* *ONE*, *TO* *MAKE*
*AN* *ASSAULT* *ON* *ONE*;
#1: Sup: 5; Ego: 5,
#2: Sup: 4; Ego: 80,
#3: Sup: 14; Ego: 10,
#4: Sup: 71; Ego: 57,
#5: Sup: 81; Ego: 10,
#6: Sup: 9; Ego: 9,
#7: Sup: 17; Ego: 8,
#8: Sup: 27; Ego: 10,
Male: #228; Feme: #189
}
Tells me that you have loyalty and empathy with the person whom assaulted
me.
I warned you not to make any statement which would incriminate you.”
What a waste of time you are”
is conveyed by this category #432 as [#40, #1, #300, #1, #10, #70, #10] =
mataios (G3152): {#11 as #622} 1) *DEVOID* *OF* *FORCE*, *TRUTH*,
*SUCCESS*, *RESULT*; 2) *USELESS*, *OF* *NO* *PURPOSE*;
#1: Sup: 40; Ego: 40,
#2: Sup: 41; Ego: 1,
#3: Sup: 17; Ego: 57,
#4: Sup: 18; Ego: 1,
#5: Sup: 28; Ego: 10,
#6: Sup: 17; Ego: 70,
#7: Sup: 27; Ego: 10,
Male: #188; Feme: #189
}
There is never going to be forgiveness granted towards you: “But I will
forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath
power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." [Luke 12:5 (KJV)]
- dolf
A REVISION OF THIS DOCUMENT MAY BE OBTAINED AS A PDF DOCUMENT FROM THIS
<http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Detrude.pdf>
Initial Post: 7 May 2017
--
YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7OuqWi4vQ>

SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF
NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN*
*CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as
harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a
robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT*

Private “Saint Andrews” Street on the edge of the Central Business District
dated 16th May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as
a Notice of an Application for Planning Permit

<http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>

SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in 1993),
first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie.
Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory
of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven
visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis
[James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day
= #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the
64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather
than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the
macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial
canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER.

<http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>

The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines
a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is permissible to
extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS
REALITY OF HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL
REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] as
EXISTENCE.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip> (Download resources)

After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS
Patrick B
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"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
You should know why.
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I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
matty is a slooooooow learner.
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2018-05-07 19:23:35 UTC
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"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Why would you ask me when they are the only ones with the answer?
You should know why.
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I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
Neither will we, but that hasn't dawned on you yet.
matty is a slooooooow learner.
That you and Rod are Catholic Pedophile Apologist. You don't want
these made public is evident.
R☼d
2018-05-07 00:42:38 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
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Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Post by R☼d
"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
Post by R☼d
and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
And you7 are lying about my intentions as well as what I have said,
so you are empowering other liars that are on usenet.
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia. You empower Patrick.
I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
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2018-05-07 01:46:14 UTC
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
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"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
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and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
And you7 are lying about my intentions as well as what I have said,
so you are empowering other liars that are on usenet.
I don't think so as your double standard has been shown. Good Luck
with that claim of being born again. ROFL
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I am of that opinion. Now
there are over 50 witnesses against him. I will wait for the trial.
I admit just the thought of a child being used as a sex toy disgust
me, may not you if it is a priest but priest are nothing.
Patrick defends Pedophilia. You empower Patrick.
I will never except Pedophilia by freaks who claim to be of God.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
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Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
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The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
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That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
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To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
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Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Post by R☼d
"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
Post by R☼d
and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
And you are lying about my intentions as well as what I have said,
so you are empowering other liars that are on usenet.
I don't think so as your double standard has been shown.
Judging solely by the words that your hands have formed
your brain is soft and turned to mush.
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Good Luck
with that claim of being born again. ROFL
If you could not lie then you would not have a thing to say. I have
challenged you many times to show me proof of your claims and what did
you come up with? More unverifiable garbage; nothing less than suspicion
and accusations.
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:56:47 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cardinal-george-pell-will-face-trial-
on-historical-sex-offense-charges/2018/05/01/76adb5a8-4cf1-11e8-af46-
b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.31066951ae48
SYDNEY — Cardinal George Pell was ordered by an Australian magistrate to
face trial over sexual abuse allegations, a decision that may make him the
most senior Roman Catholic prelate to be forced to defend himself in court
over a scandal that has swept through Catholic communities around the
world.
After being told in a courtroom that he would face trial, Pell was asked
how he pleaded. “Not guilty,” the 76-year-old answered in a firm, loud
voice, according to reporters present.
Pell rose through the ranks of the church in Australia to become
archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney. Five years ago, he was appointed one
of eight cardinals by Pope Francis to work out how to overhaul the
administrative structures of the church, which are known as the Roman
curia. The following year he was placed in charge of the Vatican’s
economic affairs. He has taken a leave of absence for the court case.
After a month-long pretrial hearing in which Pell was defended by one of
Australia’s top criminal lawyers, the magistrate, Belinda Wallington,
dismissed some of the more serious assault charges made against Pell by
the Victoria state police force.
She ruled that other charges would go ahead: that Pell groped two boys’
genitals at a swimming pool in the regional city of Ballarat in the 1970s,
where he was born, and ordained in 1966; and assaulted two choristers at
Melbourne’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral when he was the city’s archbishop in
the 1990s.
Because the allegations concern offenses against children, most of the
details have been legally suppressed and the court was closed to the
public during part of the pretrial hearing.
“Cardinal George Pell has at all times fully cooperated with Victoria
Police and always and steadfastly maintained his innocence,” a statement
from his lawyers said. “He has voluntarily returned to Australia to meet
these accusations. He will defend the remaining charges.”
A conviction is far from certain. Pell’s lawyers are likely to seek to
undermine prosecution witnesses. The long time it took for the cases to
reach court could work in Pell’s favor by dimming the memory of those
called to give evidence.
“These are very difficult matters for everyone involved and no one is
going to be popping champagne corks over this,” Louise Milligan, an
investigative journalist and witness in the case whose reporting uncovered
some of Pell’s accusers, said in a telephone interview.
Pell has apologized for the pain inflicted upon the church’s victims, and
church officials say he became the first Catholic bishop, in 1996, to
institute a formal restitution program.
But his patrician manner and perceived lack of empathy toward victims
under his watch made Pell the focus of much anger in the disgruntled
Catholic community.
A five-year national judicial inquiry into institutional sexual abuse that
concluded last year received more complaints about the Catholic Church
than any other organization. Ballarat was a hot spot of abuse: 140 people
told the inquiry they were abused there between 1980 and 2015.
Those who complained usually received a dismissive response. Church
leaders settled allegations in favor of the priests, or moved them to
another district where several were able to continue abusing children, the
inquiry found.
“This case study exposed a catastrophic failure in the leadership of the
Diocese and ultimately in the structure and culture of the Church over
decades to effectively respond to the sexual abuse of children by its
priests,” the inquiry said last December.
During the pretrial hearing, Pell’s lawyer challenged the reliability of
witnesses’ memories and their psychological states. At one point, the
lawyer, Robert Richter, accused the magistrate of bias and asked her to
step down from the case. She declined.
On Tuesday, the hearing’s final day, the courtroom was packed with victim
advocates, Pell’s supporters and journalists. After the magistrate read
the judgment and left the room, there was clapping from the public section
of the court.
As Pell walked from the building on bail, through a phalanx of police
officers there to protect him, he was jeered.
Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all.
Why would he do that?
Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of help
in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane.
If he is guilty...
However, I have said for a few years now that Pell will not spend a
day in prison. I still stand by that claim. There will be no real
proof offered.
So your gift is prophesying.
1 John 4:1
4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom
of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your
name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I
never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
John 5:24. Those who have accepted Jesus the Christ and His words
and believed on the Father that sent Him have already passed from
death to life and will NOT come into condemnation.
So what is the will of God? The entire scriptures tell you what the
will of God is, and it begins with accepting Jesus Christ as savior.
True and then Churches dissect the Bible take it out of Context and
make up more rules, rules that require a Church, Purgatory is a
example.
Post by R☼d
Patrick and Duke are two of those that have already passed from death
to life because they accepted Jesus and believe on the Father that
sent Him.
If you say so and yet they defend pedophiles so guess you are saying
pedophile Priest are good as they "have accepted Jesus and believe on
the Father that sent Him." Please do not tell me you believe just
because someone has "accepted Jesus" they can abuse children?
Post by R☼d
The word of God is absolute. Men over the years have tried to monkey
with it and got no where.
God's word is not limited to a book and God would not be limited by
the understanding of men of the times.
Post by R☼d
Post by MattB
That you would be prophesying in the defense of Pedophilia along with
others is not a surprise to me.
Cardinal Pell has not been convicted, and therefore Patrick is not
defending a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt, Matt.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Ti 5:19
1Pe_3:9  Not rendering evil for evil, nor railing for railing, but
contrariwise, blessing: for unto this are you called, that you may
inherit a blessing.
2Pe_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power, bring
not against themselves a railing judgment.
Jud_1:9  When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended
about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of
railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Post by MattB
To you and those like you I say Away
from me, you evildoers!’.
2Peter_2:11  Whereas angels, who are greater in strength and power,
bring not against themselves a railing judgment.
Post by MattB
Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you, and yet I
believe to God it is a Sin.
Pedophilia is a sin, but so is calling someone a pedophile
before you have evidence of guilt, because if you are wrong
then you have borne false witness.
Yet you seem to support Patrick's lies here?? That would make you to
God what?
\
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" do you not understand?
Talk to Patrick about that.
Post by R☼d
Matt, it would be the same thing as me accusing you of murder
and condemning you for it without having evidence of your guilt!
Why is it that you don't understand this?
I understand what you are saying. I do not write the articles and
will not take part of a cover up.
But you have in previous posts called Cardinal Pell a "pedophile"
when he hasn't been convicted by a court of Pedophilia! He could
be found innocent by the court. You have to PROVE people are guilty,
you cannot just call them anything you please and automatically they
are guilty. it doesn't work that way.
"Jeer him? He will excommunicate them all."
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up? Cardinal is evil or insane."
Those are what I have said. IMO I believe the 50 witnesses before
that of Pell. You defend Pell.
Innocent until PROVEN to be guilty is the measure of law.
Seems you apply that differently depending if one is a priest or not.
Show me where and how! I am not above being corrected.
Show me where I have said Pell is guilty.
You are talking about Cardinal Pell here by indirect reference;
"Why would the Cardinal in any way shape or form aid Pedophiles of
help in a cover up?"
Why would any Priest or Pope do so?
Post by R☼d
"Cardinal is evil or insane."
Yes
Post by R☼d
and then YOU went onto say the mother of all lies;
"Pedophilia is not a sin to you and those that support you,
and yet I believe to God it is a Sin."
You are empowering Patrick so this is for each person to decide for
themselves.
And you are lying about my intentions as well as what I have said,
so you are empowering other liars that are on usenet.
I don't think so as your double standard has been shown.
Judging solely by the words that your hands have formed
your brain is soft and turned to mush.
Post by MattB
Good Luck
with that claim of being born again. ROFL
If you could not lie then you would not have a thing to say. I have
challenged you many times to show me proof of your claims and what did
you come up with? More unverifiable garbage; nothing less than suspicion
and accusations.
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