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University of Queensland Centre for Clinical Research, COVID-19 treatment trial
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Dechucka
2020-03-18 23:29:51 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world

The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.

Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
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Petzl
2020-03-19 00:51:59 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Yes Chloroquine (for malaria) on it's own speeds up recovery but not a
cure
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news18
2020-03-19 00:55:37 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Yes Chloroquine (for malaria) on it's own speeds up recovery but not a
cure
In mild cases only.
Dechucka
2020-03-19 00:57:12 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Yes Chloroquine (for malaria)
Among other things
Post by Petzl
on it's own speeds up recovery but not a
cure
May or may not be true, the Chinese have been looking since January it
turns out.
Ördög
2020-03-19 00:58:31 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
It will come none to soon to stop people from dying.

I've read somewhere that Cuba has one drug already tested for use and
is currently deployed to China for treatment of COVID-19 patients. I am
however not up to date on the nature of that antiviral agent. Have you
heard anything about that, Dechucka?

(So much for the US propaganda asserting that "communists" are unable to
invent anything useful - mind you it's not that I would call Cuba a
real communist country).
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 01:18:51 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
It will come none to soon to stop people from dying.
Both drugs are available and approved (for other conditions) so should
be able to be rolled out fairly quickly if found to be effective.
Post by Ördög
I've read somewhere that Cuba has one drug already tested for use and
is currently deployed to China for treatment of COVID-19 patients. I am
however not up to date on the nature of that antiviral agent. Have you
heard anything about that, Dechucka?
I understand the Chinese have approved Ribavirin but it's got some
pretty awful side-effects. They are doing lots of work on chloroquine +
anti-virals, there was a letter to Nature (?) a couple of weeks ago
saying it looked hopeful
Post by Ördög
(So much for the US propaganda asserting that "communists" are unable to
invent anything useful - mind you it's not that I would call Cuba a
real communist country).
Look up Trump tries to buy German vaccine company/scientist so America
only has the vaccine.
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Fran
2020-03-19 02:59:52 UTC
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Look up Trump tries to buy  German vaccine company/scientist so America
only has the vaccine.
Yep. Trump is a fucking disgrace and just and embarrassment to his country.
Mattb
2020-03-19 01:55:48 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
Petzl
2020-03-19 02:51:59 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 03:14:03 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
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Petzl
2020-03-19 04:07:19 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 04:13:50 UTC
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The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
There is no Australian vaccine currently, the only current vaccine is
being tested in Seattle
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Petzl
2020-03-19 07:56:47 UTC
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The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
There is no Australian vaccine currently, the only current vaccine is
being tested in Seattle
Tom Hanks and wife were each given shots which cured them
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 08:42:47 UTC
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The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
There is no Australian vaccine currently, the only current vaccine is
being tested in Seattle
Tom Hanks and wife were each given shots which cured them
You are telling porkies because you can't supply the Instagram quote AND
they may have gotten better without the treatment
Petzl
2020-03-19 09:37:38 UTC
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Post by Petzl
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
There is no Australian vaccine currently, the only current vaccine is
being tested in Seattle
Tom Hanks and wife were each given shots which cured them
You are telling porkies because you can't supply the Instagram quote AND
they may have gotten better without the treatment
Don't have instagram
Sunrise showed the connection to Tom Hanks and professor David
Paterson,
They believed the million dollar donation came from Tom Hanks showing
instagram picture of him being vaccinated
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 11:48:30 UTC
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Post by Petzl
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
There is no Australian vaccine currently, the only current vaccine is
being tested in Seattle
Tom Hanks and wife were each given shots which cured them
You are telling porkies because you can't supply the Instagram quote AND
they may have gotten better without the treatment
Don't have instagram
Sunrise showed the connection to Tom Hanks and professor David
Paterson,
They believed the million dollar donation came from Tom Hanks showing
instagram picture of him being vaccinated
No vaccine for COVID-19 and no instagram
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Ördög
2020-03-19 04:14:03 UTC
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Petz
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Dechucka
Petz
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But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
What vaccine?
Hint antiviral drugs aren't vaccines.

Why do you insist on proving your own ignorance of even the most basic
scientific concepts?

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Dechucka
2020-03-19 04:17:31 UTC
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Petz
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Dechucka
Petz
/snip/
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But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
What vaccine?
Hint antiviral drugs aren't vaccines.
This was all sorted out a while ago including him denying his claim of
"Palmer funding vaccine". He finally agreed he was wrong and now is back
at it.
Post by Ördög
Why do you insist on proving your own ignorance of even the most basic
scientific concepts?
among other concepts it can't grasp and the blatant lies he says.
Mattb
2020-03-19 17:09:31 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Petzl
2020-03-19 18:57:42 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.

It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it is
in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
************
pharmaceutical companies want to create a brand name vaccine, tout it
as the only cure, then make billions from it's sale
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 19:19:54 UTC
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I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS

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Petzl
2020-03-19 19:31:46 UTC
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Post by Mattb
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
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Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
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Everyone get tested ASAP!
Australia is taking the virus very seriously. New testing methods are
being used and you don't have to leave your house. No hospital visit
is necessary.
All you have to do is mail a stool sample to Sarah Hanson-Young.
Note: Larger samples give more accurate results.
Dechucka
2020-03-19 19:51:01 UTC
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It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Dechucka
2020-03-19 19:55:30 UTC
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It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
SORRY should have been "(NOT antineoplastic agents)"
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Petzl
2020-03-19 20:19:35 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You want every one to spell Chemotherapeutic agents
Instead of vaccine, even though you know what is meant
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Everyone get tested ASAP!
Australia is taking the virus very seriously. New testing methods are
being used and you don't have to leave your house. No hospital visit
is necessary.
All you have to do is mail a stool sample to Anthony Albanese.
Note: Larger samples give more accurate results.
Dechucka
2020-03-19 20:53:27 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
Wrong you're a moron
Post by Petzl
You want every one to spell Chemotherapeutic agents
Instead of vaccine, even though you know what is meant
Wrong as I explained above. Oh well
Petzl
2020-03-19 21:08:04 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
Wrong you're a moron
Post by Petzl
You want every one to spell Chemotherapeutic agents
Instead of vaccine, even though you know what is meant
Wrong as I explained above. Oh well
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks getting his Wu-Flu shot which is why
it was thought he donated a Million dollars to the research
Scientists. Turned it was Clive Palmer who donated the money for the
Wu-Flu cure
https://ibb.co/PDzwsKb

full video here
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
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Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!
Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:21:57 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
Wrong you're a moron
Post by Petzl
You want every one to spell Chemotherapeutic agents
Instead of vaccine, even though you know what is meant
Wrong as I explained above. Oh well
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks getting his Wu-Flu shot
bloody unethical because the Aus vaccine hasn't even started phase 0
animal trials.
Post by Petzl
which is why
it was thought he donated a Million dollars to the research
Scientists. Turned it was Clive Palmer who donated the money for the
Wu-Flu cure
https://ibb.co/PDzwsKb
Bloody hell Hanks is looking years younger after having Covid-19. Did he
get a face lift while in hospital?
Post by Petzl
full video here
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
Seen it, yep Patterson is talking about a chemotherapeutic trial not a
vaccine YOU MORON
Petzl
2020-03-19 21:36:23 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
Wrong you're a moron
Post by Petzl
You want every one to spell Chemotherapeutic agents
Instead of vaccine, even though you know what is meant
Wrong as I explained above. Oh well
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks getting his Wu-Flu shot
bloody unethical because the Aus vaccine hasn't even started phase 0
animal trials.
No need to the HIV and Malaria vaccines/cures used have already been
tested safe, Combining the two have been found a cure and a vaccine
for Wu-Flu
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
which is why
it was thought he donated a Million dollars to the research
Scientists. Turned it was Clive Palmer who donated the money for the
Wu-Flu cure
https://ibb.co/PDzwsKb
Bloody hell Hanks is looking years younger after having Covid-19. Did he
get a face lift while in hospital?
He had Wu-Flu and was sick
But here's a shot, recent? without beard
https://is.gd/lQihPx
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
full video here
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
Seen it, yep Patterson is talking about a chemotherapeutic trial not a
vaccine YOU MORON
Part made from a Malaria Vaccine and HIV shot
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that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
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Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:47:40 UTC
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Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines
NOT VACCINES drug TREATMENTS
snip
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
You're a moron'
Vaccines ( in general) are preventative, Chemotherapeutic agents
(antineoplastic agents) are a treatment
Ergo vaccine,s smart arse
Wrong you're a moron
Post by Petzl
You want every one to spell Chemotherapeutic agents
Instead of vaccine, even though you know what is meant
Wrong as I explained above. Oh well
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks getting his Wu-Flu shot
bloody unethical because the Aus vaccine hasn't even started phase 0
animal trials.
No need to the HIV and Malaria vaccines/cures
A Malaria vaccine is available, you better tell Bill Gates because he is
spending $billions to develop one. Must get the Malaria vaccine next
time I go to Asia or Africa except it doesn't work very well
Post by Petzl
used have already been
tested safe, Combining the two have been found a cure and a vaccine
for Wu-Flu
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
which is why
it was thought he donated a Million dollars to the research
Scientists. Turned it was Clive Palmer who donated the money for the
Wu-Flu cure
https://ibb.co/PDzwsKb
Bloody hell Hanks is looking years younger after having Covid-19. Did he
get a face lift while in hospital?
He had Wu-Flu and was sick
But here's a shot, recent? without beard
https://is.gd/lQihPx
Looks 20 years younger
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
full video here
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
Seen it, yep Patterson is talking about a chemotherapeutic trial not a
vaccine YOU MORON
Part made from a Malaria Vaccine and HIV shot
An effective malaria vaccine sadly does not exist
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Fran
2020-03-20 03:31:29 UTC
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No need to the HIV and Malaria vaccines/cures
A Malaria vaccine is available, you better tell Bill Gates because he is
spending $billions to develop one.
I must tell my brother in law as he'd be stunned at this secret malaria
vaccine - he's doing work for the Gates Foundation. ;-))
Dechucka
2020-03-20 03:41:12 UTC
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No need to the HIV and Malaria vaccines/cures
A Malaria vaccine is available, you better tell Bill Gates because he
is spending $billions to develop one.
I must tell my brother in law as he'd be stunned at this secret malaria
vaccine - he's doing work for the Gates Foundation. ;-))
To be fair there is one out but it's crap so much so that WHO doesn't
recommend it. iirc
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Mattb
2020-03-19 19:58:08 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.
That is true but that is all Duke/Earl Weber can have to defend his
pedophiles within the RCC.
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it is
in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Post by Petzl
************
pharmaceutical companies want to create a brand name vaccine, tout it
as the only cure, then make billions from it's sale
Dechucka
2020-03-19 20:06:09 UTC
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Post by Mattb
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
It is the chloroquine plus an anti viral drug, used to treat HIV. Forms
of this trial/use was first reported from China in Jan
Petzl
2020-03-19 20:34:58 UTC
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Post by Mattb
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
It is the chloroquine plus an anti viral drug, used to treat HIV. Forms
of this trial/use was first reported from China in Jan
Believe it was first Thailand that pointed this direction
--
Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Dechucka
2020-03-19 20:53:50 UTC
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Post by Mattb
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
It is the chloroquine plus an anti viral drug, used to treat HIV. Forms
of this trial/use was first reported from China in Jan
Believe it was first Thailand that pointed this direction
You'd be wrong
Petzl
2020-03-19 21:13:40 UTC
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Post by Mattb
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
It is the chloroquine plus an anti viral drug, used to treat HIV. Forms
of this trial/use was first reported from China in Jan
Believe it was first Thailand that pointed this direction
You'd be wrong
reported Feb the 6th
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-hiv-flu-drugs-remedy-thailand-12383016
https://is.gd/S05EoI
Chinese health officials have already been administering the HIV and
flu drugs to fight the coronavirus. The use of the three together in a
cocktail seemed to improve the treatment, the Thai doctors said.
--
Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:25:10 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
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Post by Mattb
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
It is the chloroquine plus an anti viral drug, used to treat HIV. Forms
of this trial/use was first reported from China in Jan
Believe it was first Thailand that pointed this direction
You'd be wrong
reported Feb the 6th
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-hiv-flu-drugs-remedy-thailand-12383016
https://is.gd/S05EoI
Chinese health officials have already been administering the HIV and
flu drugs to fight the coronavirus. The use of the three together in a
cocktail seemed to improve the treatment, the Thai doctors said.
The give away from your cite about where this research started is
"Chinese health officials have already been administering the HIV and
flu drugs to fight the coronavirus"
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Petzl
2020-03-19 20:33:15 UTC
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Post by Mattb
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.
That is true but that is all Duke/Earl Weber can have to defend his
pedophiles within the RCC.
It is a media beat-up
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it is
in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
donated the money as they were under the treatment by Professor David
Paterson.
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
************
pharmaceutical companies want to create a brand name vaccine, tout it
as the only cure, then make billions from it's sale
--
Petzl
"A 'free press' owned by the mega-rich
isn't a free press, it's a propaganda tool,
used for one purpose - keeping the status quo.

Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:01:31 UTC
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Post by Mattb
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Post by Mattb
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.
That is true but that is all Duke/Earl Weber can have to defend his
pedophiles within the RCC.
It is a media beat-up
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it is
in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Petzl
2020-03-19 21:17:11 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it is
in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Can one get Wu-Flu again after being cured?

Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks from video getting his Wu-Flu shot
which is why it was thought he donated a Million dollars to the
research Scientists. Turned it was Clive Palmer who donated the money
for the Wu-Flu cure
https://ibb.co/PDzwsKb

full video here
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
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Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

Pauline Hanson was falsely jailed for exactly this.

Australians are multi-racial not multicultural

It's not about keeping Australia white, it's about keeping Australia
right — having the right people, the right culture and the right
feeling. What we've got here now is totally away from where we want to
be
Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:28:09 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it is
in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Can one get Wu-Flu again after being cured?
Has anyone actually been cured? Your question is can you get it again
after getting better.
Post by Petzl
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks from video getting his Wu-Flu shot
Very unethical for him to receive a vaccine not yet tested on animals.
Wonder if he even received the trial protocol as it has only just
started maybe Monday
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SloMO
Ördög
2020-03-19 22:02:35 UTC
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Petz
Post by Ördög
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe Tom
Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it
is in around three months https://is.gd/YAv9yv Both medications are
safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria, the other HIV and in
test tube studies both effectively kill the virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Can one get Wu-Flu again after being cured?
Has anyone actually been cured? Your question is can you get it again
after getting better.
Post by Ördög
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks from video getting his Wu-Flu shot
Very unethical for him to receive a vaccine not yet tested on animals.
Wonder if he even received the trial protocol as it has only just
started maybe Monday
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
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Welcome to real Hell on Earth! :)
That is when Lieberals and Countrymorons running the show.
They rain down on you *at your expense* hate, greed, bullying, nepotism
and plutocracy!
Petzl
2020-03-19 22:05:32 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Post by Dechucka
Petz
Post by Ördög
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe Tom
Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it
is in around three months https://is.gd/YAv9yv Both medications are
safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria, the other HIV and in
test tube studies both effectively kill the virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Can one get Wu-Flu again after being cured?
Has anyone actually been cured? Your question is can you get it again
after getting better.
Post by Ördög
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks from video getting his Wu-Flu shot
Very unethical for him to receive a vaccine not yet tested on animals.
Wonder if he even received the trial protocol as it has only just
started maybe Monday
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor now as well as a fake communist.
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
Dechucka
2020-03-19 22:14:49 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor
As a fake Dr he knows a hell of a lot more about vaccines V treatment
then you do.

now as well as a fake communist.
Post by Petzl
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
Ages away but if I catch COVID-19 I'll put out my hand out for the
treatment trial using chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir starting soon.
Prefer it to the Chinese version using remdesivir+ Chloroquine as
remdesivir isn't a very nice drug.
--
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SloMO
Petzl
2020-03-19 22:23:20 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor
As a fake Dr he knows a hell of a lot more about vaccines V treatment
then you do.
now as well as a fake communist.
Post by Petzl
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
Ages away but if I catch COVID-19 I'll put out my hand out for the
treatment trial using chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir starting soon.
Prefer it to the Chinese version using remdesivir+ Chloroquine as
remdesivir isn't a very nice drug.
Australian Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital
don't agree with you.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
Dechucka
2020-03-19 22:29:30 UTC
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snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor
As a fake Dr he knows a hell of a lot more about vaccines V treatment
then you do.
now as well as a fake communist.
Post by Petzl
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
Ages away but if I catch COVID-19 I'll put out my hand out for the
treatment trial using chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir starting soon.
Prefer it to the Chinese version using remdesivir+ Chloroquine as
remdesivir isn't a very nice drug.
Australian Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital
don't agree with you.
They do as do the researchers at the Queensland's School of Chemistry
and Molecular Biosciences where the phase 0 trials on vaccine are about
to start.
Petzl
2020-03-19 22:39:01 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor
As a fake Dr he knows a hell of a lot more about vaccines V treatment
then you do.
now as well as a fake communist.
Post by Petzl
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
Ages away but if I catch COVID-19 I'll put out my hand out for the
treatment trial using chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir starting soon.
Prefer it to the Chinese version using remdesivir+ Chloroquine as
remdesivir isn't a very nice drug.
Australian Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital
don't agree with you.
They do as do the researchers at the Queensland's School of Chemistry
and Molecular Biosciences where the phase 0 trials on vaccine are about
to start.
Just a scam that will take two years of government funding to again
find their bullshit does not work.

China are trying to bypass tests
https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/china-patent-experimental-anti-coronavirus-drug-200205054208307.html
https://is.gd/ynJH7S
China is trying to patent an experimental anti-coronavirus drug
--
Petzl
NSW Labor/"Greens": no nuclear, no coal, no gas, no parliament.
Do they have any energy for anything?
Dechucka
2020-03-19 22:45:38 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Australian Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital
don't agree with you.
They do as do the researchers at the Queensland's School of Chemistry
and Molecular Biosciences where the phase 0 trials on vaccine are about
to start.
Just a scam that will take two years of government funding to again
find their bullshit does not work.
You are one ignorant moron aren't you. The VACCINE work is being funded
by the Coalition of Epidemic Preparedness Innovation not the goverment
Post by Petzl
China are trying to bypass tests
https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/china-patent-experimental-anti-coronavirus-drug-200205054208307.html
https://is.gd/ynJH7S
China is trying to patent an experimental anti-coronavirus drug
I've mentioned the remdesivir and chloroquine trial that started in
January in China quite a few times. I would prefer the chloroquine and
lopinavir/ritonavir treatment being trialed in Aus.
Obviously when (maybe if) a vaccine becomes available that is the way to go.
--
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SloMO
Petzl
2020-03-19 23:15:13 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australian Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital
don't agree with you.
They do as do the researchers at the Queensland's School of Chemistry
and Molecular Biosciences where the phase 0 trials on vaccine are about
to start.
Just a scam that will take two years of government funding to again
find their bullshit does not work.
You are one ignorant moron aren't you. The VACCINE work is being funded
by the Coalition of Epidemic Preparedness Innovation not the goverment
Actually funding is from numerous governments
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
China are trying to bypass tests
https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/china-patent-experimental-anti-coronavirus-drug-200205054208307.html
https://is.gd/ynJH7S
China is trying to patent an experimental anti-coronavirus drug
I've mentioned the remdesivir and chloroquine trial that started in
January in China quite a few times. I would prefer the chloroquine and
lopinavir/ritonavir treatment being trialed in Aus.
Obviously when (maybe if) a vaccine becomes available that is the way to go.
We are not in China, it is because of them the Wu-Flu came into being
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Dechucka
2020-03-19 23:35:53 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Australian Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital
don't agree with you.
They do as do the researchers at the Queensland's School of Chemistry
and Molecular Biosciences where the phase 0 trials on vaccine are about
to start.
Just a scam that will take two years of government funding to again
find their bullshit does not work.
You are one ignorant moron aren't you. The VACCINE work is being funded
by the Coalition of Epidemic Preparedness Innovation not the goverment
Actually funding is from numerous governments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_for_Epidemic_Preparedness_Innovations
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
China are trying to bypass tests
https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/china-patent-experimental-anti-coronavirus-drug-200205054208307.html
https://is.gd/ynJH7S
China is trying to patent an experimental anti-coronavirus drug
I've mentioned the remdesivir and chloroquine trial that started in
January in China quite a few times. I would prefer the chloroquine and
lopinavir/ritonavir treatment being trialed in Aus.
Obviously when (maybe if) a vaccine becomes available that is the way to go.
We are not in China, it is because of them the Wu-Flu came into being
Do you mean COVID-19. How did the virus come into being due to the Chinese?
--
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SloMO
Petzl
2020-03-20 00:04:48 UTC
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Post by Petzl
We are not in China, it is because of them the Wu-Flu came into being
Do you mean COVID-19. How did the virus come into being due to the Chinese?
Ask Trump he crosses out coronavirus and replaces it with Wu-Flu
https://is.gd/mpWQnq
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Dechucka
2020-03-20 00:06:49 UTC
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Post by Petzl
We are not in China, it is because of them the Wu-Flu came into being
Do you mean COVID-19. How did the virus come into being due to the Chinese?
Ask Trump he crosses out coronavirus and replaces it with Wu-Flu
But Trump like you is a bigoted moron.
Post by Petzl
https://is.gd/mpWQnq
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Ördög
2020-03-19 22:58:59 UTC
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Ördög
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Petz
Post by Ördög
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe Tom
Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation
will mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how
effective it is in around three months https://is.gd/YAv9yv Both
medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria,
the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the
virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Can one get Wu-Flu again after being cured?
Has anyone actually been cured? Your question is can you get it again
after getting better.
Post by Ördög
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks from video getting his Wu-Flu shot
Very unethical for him to receive a vaccine not yet tested on animals.
Wonder if he even received the trial protocol as it has only just
started maybe Monday
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the
difference between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads
remains unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor now
I have never claimed to be a doctor, Petz dear...fake or otherwise.
But I am a medical technologist who worked in hospitals, pathology labs,
in the pharmaceutical industry, at CSIRO and at a number of Universities
supporting routine testing, research and teaching. So what relevant
qualification do you possess Petz dear to lecture Dechucka or me on the
subject of discussion here.
Go on, list your relevant qualifications.
(Note the long silence coming in his replies to this prompt)
Post by Petzl
as well as a fake communist.
What qualifications do you have as a practicing alt-right neo-Nazi to
judge the validity of my claim of being a communist?
BTW according to you what agency is there that issues official
certificates to communists to prove their authenticity in Australia?
Post by Petzl
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
I wait for a properly tested and released vaccine whenever it comes or if
I do come down with the COVID-19 virus I let the medical professional
treating me decide what course of action and which medication is used for
my treatment.
Post by Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Said Petz to image in his bathroom mirror before he picked up his secret
batphone to ASIO informing them that he is intending to go for a joyride
on his personal tank.
Post by Petzl
Ordog the Armchair communist
Yes, I do have an armchair. I even have more than one. And yes I am a
communist. So your point is what exactly? What is so unique about those
armchairs?
BTW if you want an analogy to your backfiring insult than consider the
fact that you are a Shitboxville park-bench neo-Nazi alt-right wanker.
(Note that I am not intending to insult the park-bench).

Rest of that absurd shit in your sig is not even worth responding to.
--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham, Henry Briggs the LNP's
combat troll, also joined by another Little Jonzie Howard
reincarnation, plus that septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and
randomly blown-in 'Goggle Groups' trolls.

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Petzl
2020-03-19 23:18:57 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the
difference between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads
remains unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor now
I have never claimed to be a doctor, Petz dear...fake or otherwise.
But I am a medical technologist who worked in hospitals, pathology labs,
in the pharmaceutical industry, at CSIRO and at a number of Universities
supporting routine testing, research and teaching. So what relevant
qualification do you possess Petz dear to lecture Dechucka or me on the
subject of discussion here.
Go on, list your relevant qualifications.
(Note the long silence coming in his replies to this prompt)
Post by Petzl
as well as a fake communist.
What qualifications do you have as a practicing alt-right neo-Nazi to
judge the validity of my claim of being a communist?
BTW according to you what agency is there that issues official
certificates to communists to prove their authenticity in Australia?
Post by Petzl
Bet you will be first in line for this Wu-Flu shot
I wait for a properly tested and released vaccine whenever it comes or if
I do come down with the COVID-19 virus I let the medical professional
treating me decide what course of action and which medication is used for
my treatment.
Post by Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Said Petz to image in his bathroom mirror before he picked up his secret
batphone to ASIO informing them that he is intending to go for a joyride
on his personal tank.
Post by Petzl
Ordog the Armchair communist
Yes, I do have an armchair. I even have more than one. And yes I am a
communist. So your point is what exactly? What is so unique about those
armchairs?
BTW if you want an analogy to your backfiring insult than consider the
fact that you are a Shitboxville park-bench neo-Nazi alt-right wanker.
(Note that I am not intending to insult the park-bench).
The best medicle advice in Australia is using tried, tested and safe
combined shots proven effective for Wu-Flu
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
Dechucka
2020-03-19 23:41:32 UTC
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Post by Petzl
The best medicle advice in Australia is using tried, tested and safe
combined shots proven effective for Wu-Fl
Actually the chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir are normally given
orally but I assume there is IV or IM formulations available.

IF as you claim "combined shots proven effective for Wu-Fl" why are they
having a trial to see if they are effective?
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Petzl
2020-03-20 00:07:04 UTC
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Post by Petzl
The best medicle advice in Australia is using tried, tested and safe
combined shots proven effective for Wu-Fl
Actually the chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir are normally given
orally but I assume there is IV or IM formulations available.
IF as you claim "combined shots proven effective for Wu-Fl" why are they
having a trial to see if they are effective?
Repeat
There is no need to it works, is safe and not compulsory
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Suddenly everyone is a prepper.
Suddenly everyone supports homeschooling.
Suddenly everyone supports gun rights.
Suddenly everyone supports border control.
Suddenly everyone realizes the Fed can’t print money forever.
Corona-chan is red pilling the entire world.
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Dechucka
2020-03-20 00:10:43 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
IF as you claim "combined shots proven effective for Wu-Fl" why are they
having a trial to see if they are effective?
Repeat
There is no need to it works,
In the lab but there have been promising results with similar
combinations out of China
Post by Petzl
is safe
They are in other conditions so hopefully there are no unique side
effects when using it in COVID-19 infections
Post by Petzl
and not compulsory
Clinical trials like this trial never are.
Ördög
2020-03-19 23:49:36 UTC
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Petz
Post by Petzl
Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the
difference between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads
remains unchanged.
Hopeless!
You a fake doctor now
I have never claimed to be a doctor, Petz dear...fake or otherwise.
But I am a medical technologist who worked in hospitals, pathology
labs, in the pharmaceutical industry, at CSIRO and at a number of
Universities supporting routine testing, research and teaching.
So what relevant qualification do you possess Petz dear to lecture
Dechucka or me on the subject of discussion here.
Go on, list your relevant qualifications.
(Note the long silence coming in his replies to this prompt)
Bingo, I was right! Ergo:
He is fuck all qualified to lecture anyone on medical issues.
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
as well as a fake communist.
What qualifications do you have as a practising alt-right neo-Nazi to
judge the validity of my claim of being a communist?
BTW according to you what agency is there that issues official
certificates to communists to prove their authenticity in Australia?
So your silence to this question proves you have NONE!
Post by Petzl
The best medicle advice in Australia is using tried, tested and safe
combined shots proven effective for Wu-Flu
Nobody stopping you from volunteering as a Guinea pig for the drug trial
runs.
Go! Just go and stop posting your bullshit.
Post by Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Said Petz to image in his bathroom mirror before he picked up his secret
bat-phone to ASIO informing them that he is intending to go for a joyride
on his personal tank.
Post by Petzl
Ordog the Armchair communist
Yes, I do have an armchair. I even have more than one. And yes I am a
communist. So your point is what exactly? What is so unique about those
armchairs?
BTW if you want an analogy to your backfiring insult than consider the
fact that you are a Shitboxville park-bench neo-Nazi alt-right wanker.
(Note that I am not intending to insult the park-bench).

Rest of that absurd shit in your sig is not even worth responding to.
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham, Henry Briggs the LNP's
combat troll, also joined by another Little Jonzie Howard
reincarnation, plus that septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and
randomly blown-in 'Goggle Groups' trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Fran
2020-03-20 03:36:32 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Petz
Post by Ördög
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe Tom
Hanks was given this treatment. Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians. Will see how effective it
is in around three months https://is.gd/YAv9yv Both medications are
safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria, the other HIV and in
test tube studies both effectively kill the virus.
This I'd have to look into and today it is nice outside so have much
yard work to do.
Good rendition video, there is a 10 second advert first,
15 sec
Post by Petzl
It was suggested Tom Hanks after showing him being "vaccinated",
Really? It doesn't show Tom Hanks being vaccinated with a COVID-19
vaccine AS THERE IS NOT A VACCINE AVAILABLE.
Can one get Wu-Flu again after being cured?
Has anyone actually been cured? Your question is can you get it again
after getting better.
Post by Ördög
Heres the screengrab of Tom Hanks from video getting his Wu-Flu shot
Very unethical for him to receive a vaccine not yet tested on animals.
Wonder if he even received the trial protocol as it has only just
started maybe Monday
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
We really can't expect more from our resident village idiot. Just
turning on his computer exhausts all his allotted mental ability for the
day.
Petzl
2020-03-20 03:55:07 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
We really can't expect more from our resident village idiot. Just
turning on his computer exhausts all his allotted mental ability for the
day.
A working Vaccination (not immunization) will be available at your
local hospital next week. You must belong to the Clive Palmer party
though.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/the-difference-between-immunization-and-vaccination-4140251
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Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Dechucka
2020-03-20 04:00:31 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Ördög
Sadly the basic problem of Petz's inability to understand the difference
between a vaccine and a drug in this and similar threads remains
unchanged.
Hopeless!
We really can't expect more from our resident village idiot. Just
turning on his computer exhausts all his allotted mental ability for the
day.
A working Vaccination
Pity that "a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce
immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.
Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can
also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose." is currently
not available for COVID-191.

A treatment (not a cure ) is being trialed
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Rod Speed
2020-03-20 02:59:54 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under
investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
So?
The Australian vaccine is free the other not so free.
I just looked and could find no evidence of a Australian vaccine.
Someone has to pay for making it.
Again grabbing twisting, spinning, lying, smart arse replies from
Dechucker, thread gets confusing.
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment.
You don't know that.
Post by Petzl
Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians.
Or that either.
Post by Petzl
Will see how effective it is in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Just because some fool journo claims something...
Post by Petzl
Both medications are safe for use in Australia,
one treats malaria, the other HIV and in test
tube studies both effectively kill the virus.
And it remains to be seen if they have
any effect on the virus in humans.
Post by Petzl
************
pharmaceutical companies want to create a brand name vaccine,
tout it as the only cure, then make billions from it's sale
Not going to even be possible with this virus.
Dechucka
2020-03-20 03:24:50 UTC
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Post by Petzl
It is two vaccines that are already available and proven safe
Tom Hanks was given this treatment.
You don't know that.
I do, he didn't get a COVID-19 vaccine
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Now a million dollar donation will
mean it is available to all Australians.
Or that either.
The chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir treatment is being run-out in a
trial to 50 Aus hospitals. Not a vaccine, pez is confused
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Will see how effective it is in around three months
https://is.gd/YAv9yv
Just because some fool journo claims something...
actually that was the time-frame that Prof Patterson put forward. Very
clear in the cite, Oh you don't look at cites do you
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Both medications are safe for use in Australia,
one treats malaria, the other HIV and in test
tube studies both effectively kill the virus.
And it remains to be seen if they have
any effect on the virus in humans.
Preliminary studies starting in China suggest that Chloroquine + a
Protease inhibitor have a beneficial action in vivo
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
************
pharmaceutical companies want to create a brand name vaccine,
tout it as the only cure, then make billions from it's sale
Not going to even be possible with this virus.
Why not? 2 possible ones in early phase trials now
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Petzl
2020-03-20 03:59:03 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:59:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Both medications are safe for use in Australia,
one treats malaria, the other HIV and in test
tube studies both effectively kill the virus.
And it remains to be seen if they have
any effect on the virus in humans.
Post by Petzl
************
pharmaceutical companies want to create a brand name vaccine,
tout it as the only cure, then make billions from it's sale
Not going to even be possible with this virus.
Infectious Disease Physician Professor David Paterson watch the video
ignor Dechucker, Fran, Ordog
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
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With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.
Dechucka
2020-03-20 04:02:58 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Not going to even be possible with this virus.
Infectious Disease Physician Professor David Paterson watch the video
you should, Patterson is discussing a treatment
Mattb
2020-03-19 17:08:28 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
Petzl
2020-03-19 19:04:07 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.

Results will take around two years
Dechucka
2020-03-19 19:31:43 UTC
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Post by Petzl
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies,
Been going since January as I have told you
Post by Petzl
their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
The beauty is that the safety/side-effects are known as they are
available for other uses. OK OK there could be reactions/side-effects
unique to using them for this disease
Your as smart as Trump on this, another contradictory news conference by
him, their 'Chief Medical Officer?' had to correct the mess
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Mattb
2020-03-19 19:55:22 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Dechucka
2020-03-19 19:57:22 UTC
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Post by Petzl
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Approval will be rushed through or off-label use will be accepted
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Mattb
2020-03-19 19:59:42 UTC
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Post by Petzl
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Approval will be rushed through or off-label use will be accepted
I agree.
Petzl
2020-03-19 20:38:42 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
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Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
Nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
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Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:04:58 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
Which vaccine would this be? The one in Phase 0 trials in Q'land or the
one in Phase 1 trials in Seattle. IF there is a safe effective COVID-19
vaccine why isn't it available for everybody like the seasonal flu
vaccine or MMR or DPT or
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
Why isn't it if it exists?
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Petzl
2020-03-19 21:22:59 UTC
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wrote:
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
Which vaccine would this be? The one in Phase 0 trials in Q'land or the
one in Phase 1 trials in Seattle. IF there is a safe effective COVID-19
vaccine why isn't it available for everybody like the seasonal flu
vaccine or MMR or DPT or
Australian Wu-Flu cure will be available by next week in a hospital
near you. Tom Hanks has not yet got a arm growing out the back of his
head, so all looks good
This is all thanks to ScoMo and Clive Palmer
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
Why isn't it if it exists?
Available next week in Australian Hospitals, thanks to ScoMo and Clive
Palmer
Dechucka
2020-03-19 21:40:46 UTC
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Post by Petzl
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
Which vaccine would this be? The one in Phase 0 trials in Q'land or the
one in Phase 1 trials in Seattle. IF there is a safe effective COVID-19
vaccine why isn't it available for everybody like the seasonal flu
vaccine or MMR or DPT or
Australian Wu-Flu cure will be available by next week in a hospital
near you.
Bloody hell that is quick work it is only going into Phase 0 trials
Post by Petzl
Tom Hanks has not yet got a arm growing out the back of his
head, so all looks good
What has Hanks got to do with the Phase 0 animal trials on the proposed
vaccine?
Post by Petzl
This is all thanks to ScoMo and Clive Palmer
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
Why isn't it if it exists?
Available next week in Australian Hospitals, thanks to ScoMo and Clive
Palmer
Phase 0 trials starting next week.

The chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 will
start in 50 hospitals around Australia. Follows up on the trials started
in China in January.

Interesting one would be Chloroquine as a prophylactic as it is for
malaria in areas where P.falciparum/vivax are susceptible. (if there are
any left).

I now take doxycycline when in malaria areas.
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Rod Speed
2020-03-20 03:12:38 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under
investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
It isnt a vaccine, it's a treatment.
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose
That depends on what side effects it has.
Post by Petzl
and everything to gain.
That's wrong too.
Post by Petzl
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
That's wrong too. Vaccinations are, but ut it isnt a vaccine,.
Effective treatments are free for all who are infected.
Petzl
2020-03-20 04:02:23 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under
investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
It isnt a vaccine, it's a treatment.
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose
That depends on what side effects it has.
Already both vaccines have been trailed and found safe
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
and everything to gain.
That's wrong too.
Post by Petzl
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
That's wrong too. Vaccinations are, but ut it isnt a vaccine,.
Effective treatments are free for all who are infected.
It is not a immunization, just a cure
Ördög
2020-03-20 04:25:27 UTC
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Post by Petzl
It is not a immunization, just a cure
Ergo, it is NOT a vaccine just a drug therapy.
And of course it won't yet be available for general use before the
completion of all the required clinical trials. Nothing news will happen
next weak in this respect.

You are on the right track, Petz dear, even if it will take you several
months to reach full comprehension of the scientific concepts behind this.
Reducing your daily consumed Goon-bag count will definitely speed up this
process.

:P :P :P :P :P
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idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham, Henry Briggs the LNP's
combat troll, also joined by another Little Jonzie Howard
reincarnation, plus that septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and
randomly blown-in 'Goggle Groups' trolls.

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Dechucka
2020-03-20 06:06:50 UTC
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Petz
Post by Petzl
It is not a immunization, just a cure
Ergo, it is NOT a vaccine just a drug therapy.
And of course it won't yet be available for general use before the
completion of all the required clinical trials. Nothing news will happen
next weak in this respect.
You are on the right track, Petz dear, even if it will take you several
months to reach full comprehension of the scientific concepts behind this.
Reducing your daily consumed Goon-bag count will definitely speed up this
process.
He understood the difference between a vaccine and treatment this
morning when it sobered up but has gone backwards in proportion to
goon-bag consumption
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:P :P :P :P :P
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Dechucka
2020-03-20 06:05:04 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:12:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
It isnt a vaccine, it's a treatment.
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose
That depends on what side effects it has.
Already both vaccines have been trailed and found safe
No vaccine is available. Come on Pez tell me you're trolling and not
just stupid
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
and everything to gain.
That's wrong too.
Post by Petzl
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
That's wrong too. Vaccinations are, but ut it isnt a vaccine,.
Effective treatments are free for all who are infected.
It is not a immunization, just a cure
Vaccines don't cure you the are a prevention, in general. The current
chemotherapeutic trial is a treatment it won't cure everybody.

Come on Pez tell me you're trolling and not just stupid
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Fran
2020-03-21 06:14:25 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:12:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 10:29:51 +1100, Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19
either
by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
   Lets hope it works well.  Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt.  If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
  In 2 years millions could be dead.  If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
It isnt a vaccine, it's a treatment.
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose
That depends on what side effects it has.
Already both vaccines have been trailed and found safe
No vaccine is available. Come on Pez tell me you're trolling and not
just stupid
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
and everything to gain.
That's wrong too.
Post by Petzl
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
That's wrong too. Vaccinations are, but ut it isnt a vaccine,.
Effective treatments are free for all who are infected.
It is not a immunization, just a cure
Vaccines don't cure you the are a prevention, in general. The current
chemotherapeutic trial is a treatment it won't cure everybody.
 Come on Pez tell me you're trolling and not just stupid
Sadly, he's not trolling - he's just really, really stupid.

Mattb
2020-03-20 03:31:06 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
That was fast and it is proven safe? I still haven't been able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info. Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
Post by Petzl
Nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Australia's medical system it would be free for over 60's
Dechucka
2020-03-20 03:45:29 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
That was fast and it is proven safe? I still haven't been able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info. Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
AFAIK there are 2 vaccines currently in early trial, Kaiser Permanente
Washington Research Institute in Seattle has tested one in a phase 1
trial on 45 patients and Queensland's School of Chemistry and Molecular
Biosciences have started phase 0 animal trials
Mattb
2020-03-20 17:25:19 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
That was fast and it is proven safe? I still haven't been able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info. Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
AFAIK there are 2 vaccines currently in early trial, Kaiser Permanente
Washington Research Institute in Seattle has tested one in a phase 1
trial on 45 patients and Queensland's School of Chemistry and Molecular
Biosciences have started phase 0 animal trials
I knew about the Seattle trail they showed the first volunteer on
the news. If the second is just in Animal trials that will take a
while.

Lets hope the Seattle trail shows promise and has few if any problems.
Dechucka
2020-03-20 19:17:00 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
That was fast and it is proven safe? I still haven't been able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info. Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
AFAIK there are 2 vaccines currently in early trial, Kaiser Permanente
Washington Research Institute in Seattle has tested one in a phase 1
trial on 45 patients and Queensland's School of Chemistry and Molecular
Biosciences have started phase 0 animal trials
I knew about the Seattle trail they showed the first volunteer on
the news. If the second is just in Animal trials that will take a
while.
Lets hope the Seattle trail shows promise and has few if any problems.
In the short term the treatments look somewhat effective
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Petzl
2020-03-20 20:16:06 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
That was fast and it is proven safe? I still haven't been able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info. Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
AFAIK there are 2 vaccines currently in early trial, Kaiser Permanente
Washington Research Institute in Seattle has tested one in a phase 1
trial on 45 patients and Queensland's School of Chemistry and Molecular
Biosciences have started phase 0 animal trials
I knew about the Seattle trail they showed the first volunteer on
the news. If the second is just in Animal trials that will take a
while.
Lets hope the Seattle trail shows promise and has few if any problems.
The Australian professor seems the one to listen to.
Not the failed doctor "Dechucker", the fake commie toilet cleaner
Ordog, or the chicken plucker Fran.
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
The two Vaccines he has found safe therefore no need for testing the
choice right now is that or nothing. The trail will be patients who
decide to have this vaccination, which should indicate if it works or
not, in 3 months
Professor David Paterson
“Every person admitted into Australian hospitals with COVID-19 will
have the option to get onto this trial,”
he continued.
“We think it will take around three months to get answers.”
Can be safely used now not in around two years if the other vaccines
being tested show they are found safe and work.
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Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Dechucka
2020-03-20 20:26:49 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
That was fast and it is proven safe? I still haven't been able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info. Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
AFAIK there are 2 vaccines currently in early trial, Kaiser Permanente
Washington Research Institute in Seattle has tested one in a phase 1
trial on 45 patients and Queensland's School of Chemistry and Molecular
Biosciences have started phase 0 animal trials
I knew about the Seattle trail they showed the first volunteer on
the news. If the second is just in Animal trials that will take a
while.
Lets hope the Seattle trail shows promise and has few if any problems.
The Australian professor seems the one to listen to.
You should try listening to Patterson about the 3 drugs that are being
used to treat patients in the trial, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir
Please don't post your blatant bullshit to septics as you are
embarrassing Australia, you embarrass yourself personally everyday on
this ng .


snip the info on the CHEMOTHERAPEUTIC TREATMENT trial of trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir being run in Aus that pez keeps
posting but can't comprehend
Petzl
2020-03-20 21:13:48 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
The Australian professor seems the one to listen to.
You should try listening to Patterson about the 3 drugs that are being
used to treat patients in the trial, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir
Please don't post your blatant bullshit to septics as you are
embarrassing Australia, you embarrass yourself personally everyday on
this ng .
snip the info on the CHEMOTHERAPEUTIC TREATMENT trial of trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir being run in Aus that pez keeps
posting but can't comprehend
Professor David Paterson has this now down to two medications.

One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.

Both medications are safe for use and available in Australia - one
treats malaria, the other HIV.

“Every person admitted into Australian hospitals with COVID-19 will
have the option to get onto this trial,” Professor David Paterson

See the *video* where Professor David Paterson is able to allow any
person with Wu-Flu to take his medications, this is not a immunity,
but hopefully a cure, which more will be known in three months.
Not two years as the US trail will take and possibly be no better.
They are using chloroquine as well but Democrats are throwing objects
to a drug proven already safe, saying/spinning it "has not been
approved by the FDA for this illness"
Biden wants his "Quid Pro Quo" as crooks always do
<https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118>
https://is.gd/7IbIZt

Dechucker spins, lies, twists, takes people out of context,
with just smart arse leftie gabble.

I see this as good news, As usual Dechucker wants to flame me for it
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Ördög
2020-03-20 22:38:08 UTC
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Petz
snip indignant "Dechucka this - Dechucka that idiotic accusations"
also snip your idiotic ignorant assertions on the subject.
Haven't you taken yet your 30 minutes full immersion anti-COVID-19 Dettol
bath yet.
Hurry up!

That a good boy! As a reward you may have another goon-bag.

--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham, Henry Briggs the LNP's
combat troll, also joined by another Little Jonzie Howard
reincarnation, plus that septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and
randomly blown-in 'Goggle Groups' trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Dechucka
2020-03-20 21:20:01 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 10:29:51 +1100, Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for
COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under
investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
    Lets hope it works well.  Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt.  If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering
anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
   In 2 years millions could be dead.  If given a choice of a sure
death and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Particularly as "vaccine" is already proven safe.
     That was fast and it is proven safe?  I still haven't been
able to
verify what you suggest do you have a government/official site that
give this info.   Twitter has much bullshit all over it.
AFAIK there are 2 vaccines currently in early trial, Kaiser Permanente
Washington Research Institute in Seattle has tested one in a phase 1
trial on 45 patients and Queensland's School of Chemistry and Molecular
Biosciences have started phase 0 animal trials
  I knew about the Seattle trail they showed the first volunteer on
the news.  If the second is just in Animal trials that will take a
while.
Lets hope the Seattle trail shows promise and has few if any problems.
The Australian professor seems the one to listen to.
You should try listening to Patterson about the 3 drugs that are being
used to treat patients in the trial, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir
Please don't post your blatant bullshit to septics as you are
embarrassing Australia, you embarrass yourself personally everyday on
this ng .
snip the info on the CHEMOTHERAPEUTIC TREATMENT trial of trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir being run in Aus that pez keeps
posting but can't comprehend
Bugger deleted your post.
Pez the give away is that the Prof was talking about a treatment. You
should try listening to Patterson about the 3 drugs that are being used
to treat patients in the trial, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir
You embarrass yourself personally everyday on this ng, try looking up
the difference between vaccination/immunization and treatment, don't get
confused by the fact that stimulation of the immune system can be used
at times as a treatment, at a website without big words.
--
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SloMO
Petzl
2020-03-20 21:39:34 UTC
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Lets hope the Seattle trail shows promise and has few if any problems.
The Australian professor seems the one to listen to.
You should try listening to Patterson about the 3 drugs that are being
used to treat patients in the trial, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir
Please don't post your blatant bullshit to septics as you are
embarrassing Australia, you embarrass yourself personally everyday on
this ng .
snip the info on the CHEMOTHERAPEUTIC TREATMENT trial of trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir being run in Aus that pez keeps
posting but can't comprehend
Bugger deleted your post.
Pez the give away is that the Prof was talking about a treatment. You
should try listening to Patterson about the 3 drugs that are being used
to treat patients in the trial, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir
You embarrass yourself personally everyday on this ng, try looking up
the difference between vaccination/immunization and treatment, don't get
confused by the fact that stimulation of the immune system can be used
at times as a treatment, at a website without big words.
Professor David Paterson, a actual top of his field DOCTOR, has this
now down to two medications. A HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.
https://is.gd/7IbIZt

Dechucker spins, lies, twists, takes people out of context,
with just smart arse leftie gabble.

Back to the facts
Professor David Paterson has this now down to two medications.

One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.

Both medications are safe for use and available in Australia - one
treats malaria, the other HIV.

“Every person admitted into Australian hospitals with COVID-19 will
have the option to get onto this trial,” Professor David Paterson

See the *video* where Professor David Paterson is able to allow any
person with Wu-Flu to take his medications, this is not a immunity,
but hopefully a cure, which more will be known in three months.
Not two years as the US trail will take and possibly be no better.
They are using chloroquine as well but Democrats are throwing objects
to a drug proven already safe, saying/spinning it "has not been
approved by the FDA for this illness"
Trump is pushing for this medication to save Americans for months now
Biden wants his "Quid Pro Quo" as crooks always do
<https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/coronavirus-australia-anonymous-donor-pledges-1-million-to-start-trials-of-cure-c-750118>
https://is.gd/7IbIZt
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Petzl
Joe Biden's son, zero track record, for jobs in languages
he don't speak thrown out of navy for doing coke,
turned in a rental car with crack pipes in it,
hid from a process server for getting a girl pregnant
to avoid child support.
But five days with dad on Chinese trip was paid US$1.5 billion dollars?
Ördög
2020-03-20 22:09:41 UTC
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snip that Goon-bags fume delirium
Petz, you still haven't recovered fully from your Friday night adventure
into hard core alcoholism.

So let's start again slowly:

1. There are no publicly available vaccines against COVID-19 on the
planet Earth at the moment ... how about on yours in that alternate
reality in the alternative Universe?

2. There is no available immune therapy for a COVID-19 infection on
planet Earth at the moment. ... how about on yours in that alternate
reality in the alternative Universe?

3. There is no drug therapy properly released in OZ from clinical trials
for the general treatment of COVID-19 patients at this point, although we
are a little closer to it now, unlike to a vaccine.
However, such drug therapy is not necessarily a cure and can still have
some nasty side effects in some instances. So how about on yours in that
alternate reality in the alternative Universe?

4. Dettol is not an antiviral cleaning agent. .. how about on yours in
that alternate reality in the alternative Universe?

5. Care to list your scientific and medical qualifications to open your
pie-hole on this subject with any degree of credibility?
I couldn't help but to notice that you were so far somewhat reluctant to
do that even when prompted.

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Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham, Henry Briggs the LNP's
combat troll, also joined by another Little Jonzie Howard
reincarnation, plus that septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and
randomly blown-in 'Goggle Groups' trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Dechucka
2020-03-20 22:11:49 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Dechucker spins, lies, twists, takes people out of context,
with just smart arse leftie gabble.
Back to the facts
Professor David Paterson has this now down to two medications.
Actually it is 3, can't you count? Try this 1 goon-bag, 2 goon-bag, 3
goon-bag YEAH you've got enough goon-bags for today
Post by Petzl
One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.
Yes there is a TREATMENT being trialed in Aus, there have been
chloroquine + an anti-viral overseas since January. So what is your point
Petzl
2020-03-21 01:12:17 UTC
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snip
Post by Petzl
Dechucker spins, lies, twists, takes people out of context,
with just smart arse leftie gabble.
Back to the facts
Professor David Paterson has this now down to two medications.
Actually it is 3, can't you count? Try this 1 goon-bag, 2 goon-bag, 3
goon-bag YEAH you've got enough goon-bags for today
Post by Petzl
One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.
Yes there is a TREATMENT being trialed in Aus, there have been
chloroquine + an anti-viral overseas since January. So what is your point
Infectious Disease Physician Professor David Paterson has this down
to *two medications*
https://is.gd/7IbIZt.
One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.
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Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Dechucka
2020-03-21 03:54:44 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Dechucker spins, lies, twists, takes people out of context,
with just smart arse leftie gabble.
Back to the facts
Professor David Paterson has this now down to two medications.
Actually it is 3, can't you count? Try this 1 goon-bag, 2 goon-bag, 3
goon-bag YEAH you've got enough goon-bags for today
Post by Petzl
One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by
“newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug
called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now”
due to resistance to malaria.
Yes there is a TREATMENT being trialed in Aus, there have been
chloroquine + an anti-viral overseas since January. So what is your point
Infectious Disease Physician Professor David Paterson has this down
to *two medications*
3 drugs
Rod Speed
2020-03-20 03:06:14 UTC
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Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure death
Its never a sure death even for someone over 80 with
pre existing medical conditions and severe complications,
and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Mattb
2020-03-20 03:28:38 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Petzl
Post by Mattb
Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Lets hope it works well. Remdesivir looks promising.
But will or already has been patented
No doubt. If it works does it matter?
To find out some trials have shown promise delivering anti-retroviral
drugs to serious cases, as well as some experimental therapies, their
sample sizes are too small to roll out to the general population.
Results will take around two years
In 2 years millions could be dead. If given a choice of a sure death
Its never a sure death even for someone over 80 with
pre existing medical conditions and severe complications,
Then let it be a personal choice and not forced or forbidden by
some government.
Post by Rod Speed
and a chance to live most would choose to take the chance.
Henry Briggs
2020-03-21 00:13:42 UTC
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Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Not detracting at all from his generous gift, was good of Palmer to give
one million, but it would have earned him real brownie points if he
funded the whole thing. Great PR spin.

After all, he gets approx $400 million annually in iron ore royalties.

Against that, one million does sound a bit paltry.
Petzl
2020-03-21 01:42:08 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Just to get some FACTS out into Usenet world
The study that Palmer has given some funding to is a large trial of
chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir as treatments for COVID-19 either by
themselves or in combination. I understand it will be run in up to 50
hospitals around Australia.
Chloroquine with or without an anti-viral has been under investigation
as a COVID-19 treatment since the beginning of February.
Not detracting at all from his generous gift, was good of Palmer to give
one million, but it would have earned him real brownie points if he
funded the whole thing. Great PR spin.
After all, he gets approx $400 million annually in iron ore royalties.
Against that, one million does sound a bit paltry.
The Scientists from the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital asked for
$750,000 Palmer gave 25% more?
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Petzl
Good exists all around us and sometimes those that the media love to hate, are the ones actually contributing to their community and helping those in need. It is unfortunate that the media choose to ignore this, and continue their hate attacks on these people.

Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200 workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims. He contributed to Americans well before he had Presidential aspirations but you will not be able to find any substantial reporting on this by mainstream media.

Trump must be congratulated for keeping his election promises,
a rarity in modern politics.
The paradox of his administration is why senior people have
been appointed who do not support his bold anti-establishment
policy agenda,especially in winding back
USA foreign intervention
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