Discussion:
Australia fires: US crew dead in firefighting plane crash
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The Peeler
2020-01-27 09:03:31 UTC
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 22:00:07 -0600, Nerd Blatham, yet another clinically
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") is playing
hypocrite today...
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And BTW why do you find industrial scale extermination of any people in
any territories occupied or otherwise an acceptable practice?
Not even when it's done by your comrades, Yap-Yap.
----snip----
LOL Another poor idiot who CAN'T hide his clinical insanity. Just why are
there so MANY Australian total nutters around? Must have to do with
something in the Australian air ...or water ...or whatever. LOL
--
Fran's PERFECT description of the spastic from Oz:

"Ned the Nutter can't read headers. He also can't resile from any
position he takes up.

Add those two facts together and the moronic fool will just keep on and
on and on and on........

Meanwhile, everyone else has long ago checked headers, compared the
style and substance and has figured out that Ned the Nutter is, as
usual, wrong. You and Ordog both think Ned the Nutter is a lunatic, but
then anyone with a single functioning brain cell who has read more than
a couple of his posts thinks that."

MID: <oudbua$7vu$***@dont-email.me>
Fran
2020-01-27 09:09:47 UTC
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Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the same
as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just waiting
around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you mean
shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers work
fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there is proof
that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation as a
result of WWII air raids:
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
Rod Speed
2020-01-27 16:49:12 UTC
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Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the same
as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just waiting
around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you mean
shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers work
fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there is proof
that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation as a
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.

And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
Dechucka
2020-01-27 19:28:12 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there is
proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation as
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain
'In Britain' now. Did you use your own tractor to move those goalposts?

so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
Post by Rod Speed
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
They are a problem in the inane design you talk about sometimes sealed
sometimes not.
Rod Speed
2020-01-27 23:01:08 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the same
as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just waiting
around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you mean
shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers work
fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there is proof
that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation as a
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain
'In Britain' now.
Nope, it always was, fuckwit. That’s the evidence that your
mindlessly silly line about asphyxiation never happened.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
They are a problem in the inane design you talk about sometimes sealed
sometimes not.
How odd that the never were in the bomb shelters in Britain.

And so trivial to avoid any problem if you are
actually stupid enough to believe it would be too.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 02:54:16 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would
just show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there
is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain
'In Britain' now.
Nope, it always was, fuckwit. That’s the evidence that your
mindlessly silly line about asphyxiation never happened.
but it did in Dresden and Hamburg to mention just 2 cities
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
They are a problem in the inane design you talk about sometimes sealed
sometimes not.
How odd that the never were in the bomb shelters in Britain.
British bomb shelters Verse fire bunkers. RS they are protecting you
against different things, the give away is in the name
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 05:17:55 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land
zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there is
proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation as
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain
'In Britain' now.
Nope, it always was, fuckwit. That’s the evidence that your
mindlessly silly line about asphyxiation never happened.
but it did in Dresden and Hamburg to mention just 2 cities
No it didn’t. Have fun explaining why it didn’t in Britain.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
They are a problem in the inane design you talk about sometimes sealed
sometimes not.
How odd that they never were in the bomb shelters in Britain.
British bomb shelters Verse fire bunkers.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Post by Dechucka
RS they are protecting you against different things, the give away is in
the name
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 05:30:38 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land
zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly
the same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume
you mean shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would
just show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If
there is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the
proof.
Google throws up a number of references to
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain
'In Britain' now.
Nope, it always was, fuckwit. That’s the evidence that your
mindlessly silly line about asphyxiation never happened.
but it did in Dresden  and Hamburg to mention just 2 cities
No it didn’t. Have fun explaining why it didn’t in Britain.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
They are a problem in the inane design you talk about sometimes
sealed sometimes not.
How odd that they never were in the bomb shelters in Britain.
British bomb shelters Verse fire bunkers.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
RS they are protecting you against different things, the give away is
in the name
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Bomb shelters aren't air tight. Now if you are going to have a
fire-bunker it needs to keep out the smoke etc so you need a source of
air. The best I've seen has an air pump that sucks in filtered air. Not
sure how good it works
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 08:13:12 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land
zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action
item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would
just show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there
is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
And there is no record of any asphyxiation in any of bomb shelter
in Britain
'In Britain' now.
Nope, it always was, fuckwit. That’s the evidence that your
mindlessly silly line about asphyxiation never happened.
but it did in Dresden and Hamburg to mention just 2 cities
No it didn’t. Have fun explaining why it didn’t in Britain.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
so the dead fucker's claim about a problem with lack of
oxygen or an excess of CO2 is just more utterly mindless silly shit
with a house bunker for bushfires in this country and even if you are
silly enough to believe his shit, its trivial to avoid either killing you.
They are a problem in the inane design you talk about sometimes sealed
sometimes not.
How odd that they never were in the bomb shelters in Britain.
British bomb shelters Verse fire bunkers.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Post by Dechucka
RS they are protecting you against different things, the give away is in
the name
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Bomb shelters aren't air tight.
Neither are house bunkers for bushfires in this country, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Now if you are going to have a fire-bunker it needs to keep out the smoke
etc
But doesn’t need to be airtight and that isnt even possible, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
so you need a source of air.
Nope, because no bushfire last long enough with a
particular house to see anyone get asphyxiated by
a lock of oxygen or an excess of CO2,, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
The best I've seen has an air pump that sucks in filtered air.
Not needed because no bushfire last long enough
with a particular house to see anyone get asphyxiated
by a lock of oxygen or an excess of CO2,, fuckwit.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 12:19:33 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Bomb shelters aren't air tight.
Neither are house bunkers for bushfires in this country, fuckwit.
So you die from the smoke or asphyxiation
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Now if you are going to have a fire-bunker it needs to keep out the
smoke etc
But doesn’t need to be airtight and that isnt even possible, fuckwit.
Of course it is possible
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
so you need a source of air.
Nope, because no bushfire last long enough with a
particular house to see anyone get asphyxiated by
a lock of oxygen or an excess of CO2,, fuckwit.
but you know fuckall about anything including bushfires
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 15:05:36 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Bomb shelters aren't air tight.
Neither are house bunkers for bushfires in this country, fuckwit.
So you die from the smoke or asphyxiation
Nope, it doesn’t have to be air tight to keep the smoke out, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Now if you are going to have a fire-bunker it needs to keep out the
smoke etc
But doesn’t need to be airtight and that isnt even possible, fuckwit.
Of course it is possible
Not with a house, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
so you need a source of air.
Nope, because no bushfire lasts long enough with a particular house to
see anyone get asphyxiated by a lack of oxygen or an excess of CO2,,
fuckwit.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 20:24:18 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Bomb shelters aren't air tight.
Neither are house bunkers for bushfires in this country, fuckwit.
So you die from the smoke or asphyxiation
Nope, it doesn’t have to be air tight to keep the smoke out, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Now if you are going to have a fire-bunker it needs to keep out the
smoke etc
But doesn’t need to be airtight and that isnt even possible, fuckwit.
Of course it is possible
Not with a house, fuckwit.
Who said anything about a house
Ned Latham
2020-01-28 21:51:17 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Now if you are going to have a fire-bunker it needs to keep
out the smoke etc
But doesn't need to be airtight and that isnt even possible,
fuckwit.
Of course it is possible
Not with a house, fuckwit.
Who said anything about a house
That's where this whole dispute began, moron.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 21:52:03 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
But have much larger numbers of people in the
bomb shelters than in a house bunker, and are
in the bomb shelter for much longer, so should
see more asphyxiation if it was real, you pathetic
excuse for a bullshit artist.
Bomb shelters aren't air tight.
Neither are house bunkers for bushfires in this country, fuckwit.
So you die from the smoke or asphyxiation
Nope, it doesn’t have to be air tight to keep the smoke out, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Now if you are going to have a fire-bunker it needs to keep out the
smoke etc
But doesn’t need to be airtight and that isnt even possible, fuckwit.
Of course it is possible
Not with a house, fuckwit.
Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.

And even if you are actually stupid enough to try
and make it airtight and do reasonably well at that,
its trivial to add some oxygen cylinders and masks
and CO2 scrubbers and waste you money on those
when they wont be needed, as the bomb shelters
in Britain prove.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 23:59:47 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers. Try and keep.

Your complete and utter inability to grasp the reality, facts and
science of this topic (or any other) means you are a waste of bothe O2
and bandwidth.
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 01:07:47 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen or an excess
of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is
just more utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.

And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Dechucka
2020-01-29 01:26:53 UTC
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Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen
The fact is that this occurred in Germany during the fire attacks. While
incendiaries were used against the UK it was to the extent they were
used in the 1000 bomber raids

or an excess
Post by Rod Speed
of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is
just more utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time. you kept getting
confused in your comments if the bunker was airtight or not. remember?
Sorry rhetorical 'you can't'
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about when it
was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let in smoke.
Oh well this discussion is a waste of bandwidth as you won't even read
the cites with the facts and data in them.
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 02:38:11 UTC
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Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen
The fact is that this occurred in Germany during the fire attacks.
Bullshit it did.
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While incendiaries were used against the UK it was to the extent they were
used in the 1000 bomber raids
Nothing to do with incendiarys. It’s the time in the
fucking airraid shelter that matters and plenty spent
the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever
got asphyxiated in them.
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that that
would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just more utterly
mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
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Post by Rod Speed
And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about when it
was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.

And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit
artist.

<reams of your pathetic excuse for bullshit and lies that
you always end up with when you have got done like a
fucking dinner, as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
Dechucka
2020-01-29 02:50:44 UTC
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Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen
The fact is that this occurred in Germany during the fire attacks.
Bullshit it did.
You been given the cites, Oh yes you refused to read them
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While incendiaries were used against the UK it was to the extent they
were used in the 1000 bomber raids
Nothing to do with incendiarys.
YOU complete moron it is totally about incendiaries as they start fires,
remember we're discussing fire bunkers in bush-fires. It was because of
the fire storms that people were asphyxiated in bomb shelters in the
1000 bomber raids

It’s the time in the
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fucking airraid shelter that matters and plenty spent
the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever
got asphyxiated in them.
Lucky I've been in the tube stations used as shelters and didn't take
supplementary O2. Oh wait they are open to the atmosphere
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just more
utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
That was a long time ago and it was shown ages ago that you lied about this
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about when
it was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
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And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit
artist.
and the goal-posts move after I mentioned air filtering in a bunker I'd
seen.
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 03:33:04 UTC
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Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen
The fact is that this occurred in Germany during the fire attacks.
Bullshit it did.
You been given the cites,
Which don’t in fact actually say what you claim they do.
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While incendiaries were used against the UK it was to the extent they
were used in the 1000 bomber raids
Nothing to do with incendiarys.
YOU complete moron it is totally about incendiaries as they start fires,
Irrelevant to whether its even possible to die of asphyxiation in
a bomb shelter when its stuffed with people over night, fuckwit.
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It was because of the fire storms that people were asphyxiated in bomb
shelters in the 1000 bomber raids
Never happened and none of your cites say that happened.
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Post by Rod Speed
It’s the time in the fucking airraid shelter that matters and plenty
spent the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever got asphyxiated
in them.
Lucky I've been in the tube stations used as shelters and didn't take
supplementary O2. Oh wait they are open to the atmosphere
So are bushfire proof houses in this country, fuckwit.
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Post by Rod Speed
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just more utterly
mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
That was a long time ago
Nope, it was what was being discussed.
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and it was shown ages ago that you lied about this
More of your lies. You did nothing of the sort.
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about when it
was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
Nope, because it wouldn’t be close to sealed for long enough.

And its completely trivial to prove that no one gets asphyxiated
in a close to sealed house in the time that it takes for the bushfire
to no longer be any threat to the inhabitants.
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And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit
artist.
and the goal-posts move
Nope, just rubbing your stupid nose in the fact that
smoke isnt something that will kill those in a bushfire
proof house. Fuck all would get in anyway,
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after I mentioned air filtering in a bunker I'd seen.
More of your lies.
Dechucka
2020-01-29 04:04:05 UTC
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Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen
The fact is that this occurred in Germany during the fire attacks.
Bullshit it did.
You been given the cites,
Which don’t in fact actually say what you claim they do.
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Post by Rod Speed
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While incendiaries were used against the UK it was to the extent
they were used in the 1000 bomber raids
Nothing to do with incendiarys.
YOU complete moron it is totally about incendiaries as they start fires,
Irrelevant to whether its even possible to die of asphyxiation in
a bomb shelter when its stuffed with people over night, fuckwit.
Moving the goal posts or more likely you've forgotten the discussion
about o2 depletion in fires
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It was because of the fire storms that people were asphyxiated in bomb
shelters in the 1000 bomber raids
Never happened and none of your cites say that happened.
You said you hadn't read them
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It’s the time in the fucking airraid shelter that matters and plenty
spent the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever got
asphyxiated in them.
Lucky I've been in the tube stations used as shelters and didn't take
supplementary O2. Oh wait they are open to the atmosphere
So are bushfire proof houses in this country, fuckwit.
No such thing
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just more
utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
That was a long time ago
Nope, it was what was being discussed.
'"was"
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and it was shown ages ago that you lied about this
More of your lies. You did nothing of the sort.
Forgotten have you? That is so sad
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about
when it was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let
in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
Nope, because it wouldn’t be close to sealed for long enough.
How do you know?
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And its completely trivial to prove that no one gets asphyxiated
in a close to sealed house in the time that it takes for the bushfire
to no longer be any threat to the inhabitants.
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And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
and the goal-posts move
Nope, just rubbing your stupid nose in the fact that
smoke isnt something that will kill those in a bushfire
proof house. Fuck all would get in anyway,
You certainly are blissful in your ignorance. Do we get onto off-gassing
from furniture etc under heat in houses? No No that would impinge into
science
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 04:55:56 UTC
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Who said anything about a house
That’s what we were discussing, a bushfire proof house, fuckwit.
The conversation moved on past that to bunkers.
Nope. The FACT that WW2 bunkers in Britain never
saw any asphyxiation due to lack of oxygen
The fact is that this occurred in Germany during the fire attacks.
Bullshit it did.
You been given the cites,
Which don’t in fact actually say what you claim they do.
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Post by Rod Speed
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While incendiaries were used against the UK it was to the extent they
were used in the 1000 bomber raids
Nothing to do with incendiarys.
YOU complete moron it is totally about incendiaries as they start fires,
Irrelevant to whether its even possible to die of asphyxiation in
a bomb shelter when its stuffed with people over night, fuckwit.
Moving the goal posts
That was the original discussion, you
pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
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or more likely you've forgotten the discussion about o2 depletion in fires
Doesn’t happen with a bushfire proof house
which is closed up as much as possible to
avoid any burning embers getting in.

And trivial to have oxygen cylinders and
masks if you are too stupid to realise that.
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Post by Rod Speed
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It was because of the fire storms that people were asphyxiated in bomb
shelters in the 1000 bomber raids
Never happened and none of your cites say that happened.
You said you hadn't read them
I said nothing of the sort you silly little pathological liar.
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It’s the time in the fucking airraid shelter that matters and plenty
spent the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever got
asphyxiated in them.
Lucky I've been in the tube stations used as shelters and didn't take
supplementary O2. Oh wait they are open to the atmosphere
So are bushfire proof houses in this country, fuckwit.
No such thing
Wrong, as always. One of them survived the recent
bushfires but again it’s aged off the ABC Just In.
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just more
utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
That was a long time ago
Nope, it was what was being discussed.
'"was"
Still is.
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and it was shown ages ago that you lied about this
More of your lies. You did nothing of the sort.
<reams of your bullshit and lies flushed where it belongs>
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about when
it was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
Nope, because it wouldn’t be close to sealed for long enough.
How do you know?
We know how long it takes for the bushfire to go past a house
and its trivial to check that no one gets asphyxiated in that time
in a house that is designed to survive a bushfire.

No house sealed as well as is practical will ever asphyxiate the
inhabitants even in a full 24 hours and its trivial to prove that.
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Post by Rod Speed
And its completely trivial to prove that no one gets asphyxiated
in a close to sealed house in the time that it takes for the bushfire
to no longer be any threat to the inhabitants.
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Post by Rod Speed
And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
and the goal-posts move
Nope, just rubbing your stupid nose in the fact that
smoke isnt something that will kill those in a bushfire
proof house. Fuck all would get in anyway,
Do we get onto off-gassing from furniture etc under heat in houses?
Doesn’t happen with a house designed to survive a bushfire.
because that heat would kill those in the house, fuckwit.
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2020-01-29 05:45:00 UTC
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YOU complete moron it is totally about incendiaries as they start fires,
Irrelevant to whether its even possible to die of asphyxiation in
a bomb shelter when its stuffed with people over night, fuckwit.
Moving the goal posts
That was the original discussion, you
pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
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or more likely you've forgotten the discussion about o2 depletion in fires
Doesn’t happen with a bushfire proof house
No such thing practically
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which is closed up as much as possible to
avoid any burning embers getting in.
And trivial to have oxygen cylinders and
masks if you are too stupid to realise that.
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Post by Rod Speed
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It was because of the fire storms that people were asphyxiated in
bomb shelters in the 1000 bomber raids
Never happened and none of your cites say that happened.
You said you hadn't read them
I said nothing of the sort you silly little pathological liar.
I read you saying exactly that to Fran, which is more than you did with
the cites
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It’s the time in the fucking airraid shelter that matters and
plenty spent the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever got
asphyxiated in them.
Lucky I've been in the tube stations used as shelters and didn't
take supplementary O2. Oh wait they are open to the atmosphere
So are bushfire proof houses in this country, fuckwit.
No such thing
Wrong, as always. One of them survived the recent
bushfires but again it’s aged off the ABC Just In.
It survived this bush-fire WOW. Interestingly a lot of house in the
villages/bush, where I've been involved, which were triaged as
indefensible and certainly weren't designed as bush-fire proof survived
so wtf is your point.
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim
that that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just
more utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
That was a long time ago
Nope, it was what was being discussed.
'"was"
Still is.
only because you are so desperate
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and it was shown ages ago that you lied about this
More of your lies. You did nothing of the sort.
<reams of your bullshit and lies flushed where it belongs>
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Post by Rod Speed
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about
when it was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also
let in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
Nope, because it wouldn’t be close to sealed for long enough.
How do you know?
We know how long it takes for the bushfire to go past a house
How long does it? It is dependent on many so many factors
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and its trivial to check that no one gets asphyxiated in that time
in a house that is designed to survive a bushfire.
No house sealed as well as is practical will ever asphyxiate the
inhabitants even in a full 24 hours and its trivial to prove that.
The asphyxiation discussion was about fire-bunkers
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And its completely trivial to prove that no one gets asphyxiated
in a close to sealed house in the time that it takes for the bushfire
to no longer be any threat to the inhabitants.
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Post by Rod Speed
And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
and the goal-posts move
Nope, just rubbing your stupid nose in the fact that
smoke isnt something that will kill those in a bushfire
proof house. Fuck all would get in anyway,
Do we get onto off-gassing from furniture etc under heat in houses?
Doesn’t happen with a house designed to survive a bushfire.
No houses are designed to survive any bush fire.
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because that heat would kill those in the house, fuckwit.
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2020-01-29 06:49:46 UTC
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YOU complete moron it is totally about incendiaries as they start fires,
Irrelevant to whether its even possible to die of asphyxiation in
a bomb shelter when its stuffed with people over night, fuckwit.
Moving the goal posts
That was the original discussion, you
pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
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or more likely you've forgotten the discussion about o2 depletion in fires
Doesn’t happen with a bushfire proof house
No such thing practically
Wrong, as always, it just did.
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which is closed up as much as possible to
avoid any burning embers getting in.
And trivial to have oxygen cylinders and
masks if you are too stupid to realise that.
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Post by Rod Speed
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It was because of the fire storms that people were asphyxiated in bomb
shelters in the 1000 bomber raids
Never happened and none of your cites say that happened.
You said you hadn't read them
I said nothing of the sort you silly little pathological liar.
I read you saying exactly that to Fran,
More fool you, I never did.

The most I ever said to that stupid lying cow is that
there is no point in reading them AGAIN, fuckwit.
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It’s the time in the fucking airraid shelter that matters and plenty
spent the whole night in them in Britain and no one ever got
asphyxiated in them.
Lucky I've been in the tube stations used as shelters and didn't take
supplementary O2. Oh wait they are open to the atmosphere
So are bushfire proof houses in this country, fuckwit.
No such thing
Wrong, as always. One of them survived the recent
bushfires but again it’s aged off the ABC Just In.
It survived this bush-fire WOW.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
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Interestingly a lot of house in the villages/bush, where I've been
involved, which were triaged as indefensible and certainly weren't
designed as bush-fire proof survived
Pity that the bushfire went right over his and it survived fine
because he had designed it to survive the bushfire and it did.
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so wtf is your point.
Even you should be able to do better than that pathetic effort.

Obviously not.
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or an excess of CO2 proves that your stupid pig ignorant claim that
that would happen with a bushfire proof house here is just more
utterly mindless pig ignorant shit.
Actually we were discussing bunkers at the time.
Bullshit we were. We were discussing your
stupid lie that the CSIRO had never said that
it was possible to do a bushfire proof house.
That was a long time ago
Nope, it was what was being discussed.
'"was"
Still is.
only because you are so desperate
You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
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and it was shown ages ago that you lied about this
More of your lies. You did nothing of the sort.
<reams of your bullshit and lies flushed where it belongs>
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And trivial to ensure it cant happen with oxygen cylinders
and masks and CO2 scrubbers if you are actually so pig
ignorant that you stupidly believe it would happen.
Oh yes the infamous O2 cylinders that you started babbling about
when it was pointed out that a bunker that let in air would also let
in smoke.
Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn’t
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
Nope, because it wouldn’t be close to sealed for long enough.
How do you know?
We know how long it takes for the bushfire to go past a house
How long does it? It is dependent on many so many factors
But when its trivial to prove that it works fine for 24 hours,
even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed
that no bushfire burns out one house for that long.
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Post by Rod Speed
and its trivial to check that no one gets asphyxiated in that time
in a house that is designed to survive a bushfire.
No house sealed as well as is practical will ever asphyxiate the
inhabitants even in a full 24 hours and its trivial to prove that.
The asphyxiation discussion was about fire-bunkers
More of your bare faced lies. It was actually about bushfire
proof houses which you stupidly claimed isnt possible.
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And its completely trivial to prove that no one gets asphyxiated
in a close to sealed house in the time that it takes for the bushfire
to no longer be any threat to the inhabitants.
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Post by Rod Speed
And trivial to filter the air anyway, you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
and the goal-posts move
Nope, just rubbing your stupid nose in the fact that
smoke isnt something that will kill those in a bushfire
proof house. Fuck all would get in anyway,
Do we get onto off-gassing from furniture etc under heat in houses?
Doesn’t happen with a house designed to survive a bushfire.
No houses are designed to survive any bush fire.
Wrong, as always. That one was and did.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should
be able to grasp that a house designed to have
feet of soil and vegetation over it, and fire proof
shutters over the windows and no trees anywhere
near it will do that fine.
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because that heat would kill those in the house, fuckwit.
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Nothing to do with letting air in. The occupants still wouldn't
get asphyxiated even if the house was sealed as well as possible.
If it was sealed of course they COULD be asphyxiated
Nope, because it wouldn't be close to sealed for long enough.
And its completely trivial to prove that no one gets asphyxiated
in a close to sealed house in the time that it takes for the bushfire
to no longer be any threat to the inhabitants.
All you have to do is look on the web:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415917/Frail-woman-92-locked-bank-vault-Rennes-western-France-23-HOURS-staff-forgot-her.html

----snip----
Fran
2020-01-28 01:12:58 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would
just show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there
is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
Fuck you're dumb as well as being a liar!

The name 'speed' doesn't apply to your mental capacity. Try reading the
articles again and this time, ask an adult to explain things to you:
1st cite: "Many others suffocated in the basement shelters."
2nd cite: "many were asphyxiated in bomb shelters"
3rd cite: "This was largely achievable because most of the dead
succumbed to suffocation"
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 02:16:22 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers
work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it, If there is proof
that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the proof.
Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation as
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
Fuck you're dumb as well as being a liar!
We'll see, fuckwit.
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
Post by Fran
1st cite: "Many others suffocated in the basement shelters."
Those arent bomb shelters, fuckwit child.
Post by Fran
2nd cite: "many were asphyxiated in bomb shelters"
No such cite you silly little pathological liar.
Post by Fran
3rd cite: "This was largely achievable because most of the dead succumbed
to suffocation"
But not in BOMB SHELTERS, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

AND NOT ONE IN BRITAIN, Funny that,.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 02:55:11 UTC
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snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
Ned Latham
2020-01-28 03:39:54 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
See you are fact and reality averse
Finally learnt to spell "averse", huh?
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 05:19:32 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
Not a single fact on asphyxiation IN BOMB SHELTERS
in there, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 05:31:23 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
Not a single fact on asphyxiation IN BOMB SHELTERS
As you haven't read the cites how the fuck would you know.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 08:16:40 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
Not a single fact on asphyxiation IN BOMB SHELTERS
in there, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist
As you haven't read the cites
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Fran
2020-01-29 02:09:58 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
Not a single fact on asphyxiation IN BOMB SHELTERS
Liar, liar pants on fire. Poor dumb Roddy spud.
Post by Dechucka
As you haven't read the cites how the fuck would you know.
Petzl
2020-01-29 03:47:35 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
Not a single fact on asphyxiation IN BOMB SHELTERS
Liar, liar pants on fire. Poor dumb Roddy spud.
Rod Speed has never been a liar
He does stick to the truth as he see's it
I have read his posts from 1990's
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
As you haven't read the cites how the fuck would you know.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-29 04:07:40 UTC
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snip
Post by Petzl
Rod Speed has never been a liar
He does stick to the truth as he see's it
So do you but you're a liar as well, the truth that you see is not
reality my little tank driving, grenade-machine gun-jacuzzi- etc owning
aboriginal, who has a secret direct line to ASIO from his bat-phone
Post by Petzl
I have read his posts from 1990's
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 05:16:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Rod Speed has never been a liar
He does stick to the truth as he see's it
So do you but you're a liar as well
You just contradicted yourself, Dopey.

Quit while you're behind, you dimwit.

----snip----
news18
2020-01-29 07:28:00 UTC
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Post by Fran
Liar, liar pants on fire. Poor dumb Roddy spud.
Rod Speed has never been a liar He does stick to the truth as he see's
it I have read his posts from 1990's
Oh fsck, have i been exposedto them for that long.
Petzl
2020-01-29 08:17:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Liar, liar pants on fire. Poor dumb Roddy spud.
Rod Speed has never been a liar He does stick to the truth as he see's
it I have read his posts from 1990's
Oh fsck, have i been exposed to them for that long.
Yes
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

Pauline Hanson was falsely jailed for exactly this.

Australians are multi-racial not multicultural

It's not about keeping Australia white, it's about keeping Australia
right — having the right people, the right culture and the right
feeling. What we've got here now is totally away from where we want to
be
Fran
2020-01-29 02:08:35 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
Try reading the articles again
Don’t need to.
See you are fact and reality averse
:-)) That Roddy Spud to a 't'. As well as dumb and a liar.

Just in case anyone missed poor dim Roddy Spud telling lies an being a
moron, here it is again:
">>> Google throws up a number of references to asphyxiation/suffocation
as a result of WWII air raids:
https://www.thelocal.de/20180723/a-night-of-hell-hamburg-remembers-firestorm-which-left-the-city-in-ruins
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Fran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
None of which say that that happened in a BOMB SHELTER.
Fuck you're dumb as well as being a liar!

The name 'speed' doesn't apply to your mental capacity. Try reading the
articles again and this time, ask an adult to explain things to you:
1st cite: "Many others suffocated in the basement shelters."
2nd cite: "many were asphyxiated in bomb shelters"
3rd cite: "This was largely achievable because most of the dead
succumbed to suffocation"
The Peeler
2020-01-27 10:10:00 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:44:27 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
BULLSHIT.
That one word would make the perfect nym for you, senile Rodent!
--
***@aol.com addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent:
"You on the other hand are a heavyweight bullshitter who demonstrates
your particular prowess at it every day."
MID: <***@4ax.com>
The Peeler
2020-01-27 10:13:12 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:46:39 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
But not in Germany as I have repeatedly said
Irrelevant that they were shipped off to Poland and killed there.
What could be more irrelevant than your pathological trolling, you
85-year-old trolling senile pest from Oz!
--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile
cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/
Ian Jackson
2020-01-27 11:21:08 UTC
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no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps. [Possibly this
helped to keep the nature of the extermination camps away from the
prying eyes of ordinary German civilians?] But wherever they were, it
probably was of little consolation to the inmates.
--
Ian
The Peeler
2020-01-27 12:12:44 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps. [Possibly this
helped to keep the nature of the extermination camps away from the
prying eyes of ordinary German civilians?] But wherever they were, it
probably was of little consolation to the inmates.
Torturing and killing was regular practice even in the concentration camps
located within Germany, though the murdering was more directed towards
individuals (political opponents and "subversive elements"),rather than huge
groups of people. But then, also labour camps within Germany (specifically
for the construction of the V-rockets in northern Germany) were used to work
prisoners to death (who were often shot on the spot, if they couldn't work
anymore), also mentally handicapped German people were murdered by the tens
of thousands within Germany, also gays, Roma, priests, etc. In Dachau alone
an estimated 40.000 people were murdered in various ways (including medical
experiments).
Petzl
2020-01-27 19:02:21 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 11:21:08 +0000, Ian Jackson
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps. [Possibly this
helped to keep the nature of the extermination camps away from the
prying eyes of ordinary German civilians?] But wherever they were, it
probably was of little consolation to the inmates.
That's the way I see it also.

Wikipedia has a list of concentrarion camps verses extermination
camps.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_concentration_camps#Selected_examples>
or < https://is.gd/Z2HhTF >

20 Dachau Germany Concentration camp
21 Drancy France Internment camp, transit
24 Fort de Romainville France Prison and transit camp
40 Le Vernet France Internment camp
47 Natzweiler-Struthof (Struthof) France Concentration camp;
Nacht und Nebel camp; extermination camp
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Fran
2020-01-28 00:42:26 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany. They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps. Dachau being one of these camps.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 02:48:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being one of these
camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot, it
wasn't an extermination camp as such
Petzl
2020-01-28 04:21:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being one of these
camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot, it
wasn't an extermination camp as such
Just media ramped hype

NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-28 05:26:01 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being one of these
camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot, it
wasn't an extermination camp as such
Just media ramped hype
Not really as it occurred
Post by Petzl
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
See you agree
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 05:27:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany. They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps. Dachau being one of these camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot, it
wasn't an extermination camp as such
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Petzl
2020-01-28 06:14:40 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

"Genrikh Yagoda,"
the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy
commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently
implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for
the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies
established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer
viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was
replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-28 06:23:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy
commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently
implemented Stalin's
So it was Stalin you fucking moron
Petzl
2020-01-28 06:33:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy
commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently
implemented Stalin's
So it was Stalin you fucking moron
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and
have blood on their hands for eternity.
*Leonid Reichman*,
head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief
interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their
deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror
officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards,
judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the
progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of
horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-28 07:12:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy
commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently
implemented Stalin's
So it was Stalin you fucking moron
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and
have blood on their hands for eternity.
*Leonid Reichman*,
head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief
interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their
deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror
officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards,
judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the
progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of
horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
So the Jews weren't the murderers it was Stalin et al you anti-semetic Nazi
Ned Latham
2020-01-28 08:21:12 UTC
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----snip----
Post by Petzl
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their
deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror
officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards,
judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the
progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of
horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
So the Jews weren't the murderers it was Stalin et al you anti-semetic Nazi
That logic would apply to Nazi Germany's executioners too, wouldn't it?
Petzl
2020-01-28 09:35:57 UTC
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 02:21:12 -0600, Ned Latham
----snip----
Post by Petzl
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their
deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror
officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards,
judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the
progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of
horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
So the Jews weren't the murderers it was Stalin et al you anti-semetic Nazi
That logic would apply to Nazi Germany's executioners too, wouldn't it?
Just never reported the real holocaust done by Jewish terror
officials? The Nazis were correct that the Jews would do this!

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and
have blood on their hands for eternity.
*Leonid Reichman* officer responsible for Katyn massacre in Poland
head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief
interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 14:58:04 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 02:21:12 -0600, Ned Latham
----snip----
Post by Petzl
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their
deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror
officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards,
judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the
progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of
horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
So the Jews weren't the murderers it was Stalin et al you anti-semetic Nazi
That logic would apply to Nazi Germany's executioners too, wouldn't it?
Just never reported the real holocaust done by Jewish terror
officials? The Nazis were correct that the Jews would do this!
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and
have blood on their hands for eternity.
*Leonid Reichman* officer responsible for Katyn massacre in Poland
head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief
interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
Was no more a jew than Murdoch's mum.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 08:30:26 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
Wasn't a jew, fuckwit.
Petzl
2020-01-28 09:38:46 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:30:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
Wasn't a jew, fuckwit.
Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda#Early_life>
https://is.gd/BIWlRX
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 14:58:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:30:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:27:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Just media ramped hype
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Stalin's Jews
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were
Jewish
Have fun listing even a single one of them, you rabid anti semite.
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
Wasn't a jew, fuckwit.
Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda#Early_life>
https://is.gd/BIWlRX
Doesn't make HIM a jew, fuckwit.
Ördög
2020-01-28 20:07:46 UTC
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Petz
Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
Petz
Post by Petzl
Petz
Post by Petzl
NOTHING has ever been mentioned as to why the Germans did what they
did.
All bought on by the Jewish holocaust of Christians as the Soviets
moved over Europe from WWI.
Absolute Xtian fundy Antisemitic fantasies. Disgusting revisionism.
Goes completely against everything we know about documented history.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
Stalin's
Jews We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern
times were Jewish
Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known
as Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.
"Genrikh Yagoda,"
Wasn't a jew, fuckwit.
Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family.
For rational people ethnicity of the parents per se is NOT a crime. For
disgusting Antisemitic rabid low-lives like you it is an excuse to focus
your hate even more.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda#Early_life>
https://is.gd/BIWlRX
Why leave out this part?
"...Yagoda himself ultimately became a victim of the Purge. He was
demoted from the directorship of the NKVD in favor of Nikolai Yezhov in
1936 and arrested in 1937. Charged with the crimes of wrecking,
espionage, Trotskyism and conspiracy, Yagoda was a defendant at the Trial
of the Twenty-One, the last of the major Soviet show trials of the 1930s.
Following his confession at the trial, Yagoda was found guilty and shot. "
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Fran
2020-01-29 01:46:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being one of these
camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot, it
wasn't an extermination camp as such
So what is this?:
https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049039_Dachau-concentration-camp_dead-bodies_feeble-prisoners_gas-chamber

And why this quote?: "During the entire time in which Dachau served as a
concentration camp and death camp, over 200,000 prisoners were cataloged
as having passed through its gates. An inestimable number, running into
the thousands, were never registered, making it impossible to know
exactly how many people were imprisoned at Dachau and how many died there."

Sematics does not change the fact that many, many, many people died
there and that the idiot pretzel is as usual wrong about Germany and
what it did during the Nazi era.

Gandhi said:"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and
the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy".

The dead of Dachau also wouldn't give a shit about whether it was called
a concentration camp or an extermination camp.
Dechucka
2020-01-29 01:57:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in
Germany proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started
out as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people
but they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being one of
these camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot,
it wasn't an extermination camp as such
https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049039_Dachau-concentration-camp_dead-bodies_feeble-prisoners_gas-chamber
And why this quote?: "During the entire time in which Dachau served as a
concentration camp and death camp, over 200,000 prisoners were cataloged
as having passed through its gates. An inestimable number, running into
the thousands, were never registered, making it impossible to know
exactly how many people were imprisoned at Dachau and how many died there."
Sematics does not change the fact that many, many, many people died
there and that the idiot pretzel is as usual wrong about Germany and
what it did during the Nazi era.
Gandhi said:"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and
the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy".
The dead of Dachau also wouldn't give a shit about whether it was called
a concentration camp or an extermination camp.
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in fact
maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't know :-(
where there is life there is hope ..... However some sections of some
camps were specifically set up as extermination camps eg Auschwitz,
Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps attached in different areas)
Fran
2020-01-29 02:24:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in
Germany proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started
out as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing
people but they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being
one of these camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs shot,
it wasn't an extermination camp as such
https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049039_Dachau-concentration-camp_dead-bodies_feeble-prisoners_gas-chamber
And why this quote?: "During the entire time in which Dachau served as
a concentration camp and death camp, over 200,000 prisoners were
cataloged as having passed through its gates. An inestimable number,
running into the thousands, were never registered, making it
impossible to know exactly how many people were imprisoned at Dachau
and how many died there."
Sematics does not change the fact that many, many, many people died
there and that the idiot pretzel is as usual wrong about Germany and
what it did during the Nazi era.
Gandhi said:"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and
the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy".
The dead of Dachau also wouldn't give a shit about whether it was
called a concentration camp or an extermination camp.
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in fact
maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't know :-(
where there is life there is hope ..... However some sections of some
camps were specifically set up as extermination camps eg Auschwitz,
Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps attached in different areas)
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to defend
the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi himself.
Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he peddles his
ignorant rightard propaganda.
Dechucka
2020-01-29 02:33:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in
Germany proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started
out as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing
people but they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau being
one of these camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs
shot, it wasn't an extermination camp as such
https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049039_Dachau-concentration-camp_dead-bodies_feeble-prisoners_gas-chamber
And why this quote?: "During the entire time in which Dachau served
as a concentration camp and death camp, over 200,000 prisoners were
cataloged as having passed through its gates. An inestimable number,
running into the thousands, were never registered, making it
impossible to know exactly how many people were imprisoned at Dachau
and how many died there."
Sematics does not change the fact that many, many, many people died
there and that the idiot pretzel is as usual wrong about Germany and
what it did during the Nazi era.
Gandhi said:"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans
and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the
name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy".
The dead of Dachau also wouldn't give a shit about whether it was
called a concentration camp or an extermination camp.
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in
fact maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't
know :-( where there is life there is hope ..... However some sections
of some camps were specifically set up as extermination camps eg
Auschwitz, Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps attached in
different areas)
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to defend
the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi himself.
Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he peddles his
ignorant rightard propaganda.
True but in calling him and his ilk out it is important to be strictly
correct in ones language and facts/information or they'll pick mistakes
up and claim therefore everything is wrong. This is what occurs with the
tobacco industry and climate denialers.

If one is wants to be strictly accurate deliberate mass killings did
occur in Germany extermination places under Aktion T4
Petzl
2020-01-29 03:42:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to defend
the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi himself.
Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he peddles his
ignorant rightard propaganda.
True but in calling him and his ilk out it is important to be strictly
correct in ones language and facts/information or they'll pick mistakes
up and claim therefore everything is wrong. This is what occurs with the
tobacco industry and climate denialers.
The media (Al Gore, George Soros) has a media blacklist of those
Scientists not supporting Climate delusionists

Real climate scientists are blacklisted by media if their science does
not confirm Climate delusions
"Dr Nils Axel-Morner" is on this media blacklist
below is the list of REAL climate scientists
http://climatlas.com/tropical/media_cloud_list.txt
Post by Dechucka
If one is wants to be strictly accurate deliberate mass killings did
occur in Germany extermination places under Aktion T4
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Fran
2020-01-30 07:21:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in
Germany proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany.  They started
out as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing
people but they certainly became extermination camps.  Dachau
being one of these camps.
While many people died in Dachau, including 10 000 Russian POWs
shot, it wasn't an extermination camp as such
https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675049039_Dachau-concentration-camp_dead-bodies_feeble-prisoners_gas-chamber
And why this quote?: "During the entire time in which Dachau served
as a concentration camp and death camp, over 200,000 prisoners were
cataloged as having passed through its gates. An inestimable number,
running into the thousands, were never registered, making it
impossible to know exactly how many people were imprisoned at Dachau
and how many died there."
Sematics does not change the fact that many, many, many people died
there and that the idiot pretzel is as usual wrong about Germany and
what it did during the Nazi era.
Gandhi said:"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans
and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the
name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy".
The dead of Dachau also wouldn't give a shit about whether it was
called a concentration camp or an extermination camp.
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in
fact maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't
know :-( where there is life there is hope ..... However some
sections of some camps were specifically set up as extermination
camps eg Auschwitz, Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps
attached in different areas)
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to
defend the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi
himself. Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he
peddles his ignorant rightard propaganda.
True but in calling him and his ilk out it is important to be strictly
correct in ones language and facts/information or they'll pick mistakes
up and claim therefore everything is wrong. This is what occurs with the
tobacco industry and climate denialers.
LOL. Him and the ilk can't even bring accuracy to their own posts and
yet insist their own crap comments are the truth. The tobacco industry
employed far smarter people than the ilk bunch.
Post by Dechucka
If one is wants to be strictly accurate deliberate mass killings did
occur in Germany extermination places under Aktion T4
Indeed. And it's under that policy that pretzel and the ilk would meet
their end in their new world Nazi Order.
Petzl
2020-01-29 03:37:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in fact
maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't know :-(
where there is life there is hope ..... However some sections of some
camps were specifically set up as extermination camps eg Auschwitz,
Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps attached in different areas)
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to defend
the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi himself.
Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he peddles his
ignorant rightard propaganda.
So by not siding with Germany and siding with the Jewish run
Bolsheviks invading Europe, resulted in 100,000,000 people being
killed. Thats 80,000,000 after WWII

All that "we" are allowed to be concerned with are the 6,000,000 Jews
killed under warfare conciliations as fifth columnists?

Slaughter only stopped by John Paul II bringing down the Berlin Wall
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2019-11/world-remembers-30-anniversary-berlin-wall.html
https://is.gd/hctywK
"The moment has come for Western Europeans to help their brothers
fully reclaim the place that is rightfully theirs in Europe. Both now
and in the future," Pope John Paul II
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-29 03:56:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in fact
maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't know :-(
where there is life there is hope ..... However some sections of some
camps were specifically set up as extermination camps eg Auschwitz,
Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps attached in different areas)
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to defend
the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi himself.
Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he peddles his
ignorant rightard propaganda.
So by not siding with Germany and siding with the Jewish run
Bolsheviks invading Europe, resulted in 100,000,000 people being
killed.
So believe the OK and it's allies should have made peace with Germany.
Maybe help them kill they Jews in Europe (you'd want the Jews in the UK
handed over wouldn't you?) and than invade Russia. Would the UK &
colonies helped with the murder of the 3 300 000 Russian POWS by the
Germans obviously a lot more if the USSR was defeated. BTW were we going
to assist Tojo with his massacres in China and Asia as well as they'd
have been our ally as well.
Post by Petzl
Thats 80,000,000 after WWII
Pity the USSR was not run bt Jews
Post by Petzl
All that "we" are allowed to be concerned with are the 6,000,000 Jews
killed under warfare conciliations as fifth columnists?
That revisionism is getting sicker. Keep spewing your Nazi boy excuses
they are sad but good for a laugh in their inanity
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 04:26:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in fact
maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't know :-(
where there is life there is hope ..... However some sections of some
camps were specifically set up as extermination camps eg Auschwitz,
Treblinka (both also had slave labor camps attached in different areas)
Yes, I know there were camps where the primary role was extermination
and destruction of the corpses of those put to death, BUT, that moron
pretzel should never be allowed to get away with his semantics to defend
the actions of the Nazis. He's a nasty and pig ignorant Nazi himself.
Poeple like him should be called out each and every time he peddles his
ignorant rightard propaganda.
So by not siding with Germany and siding with
the Jewish run Bolsheviks invading Europe,
It was never jewish run, you rabid anti semite.
Post by Petzl
resulted in 100,000,000 people being
killed. Thats 80,000,000 after WWII
Another bare faced lie. And no jews
were even involved after WW2,

And nothing even remotely like
100M were deliberately killed either.
Post by Petzl
All that "we" are allowed to be concerned with are the 6,000,000
Jews killed under warfare conciliations as fifth columnists?
Another bare faced lie on that stupid allowed claim.

You are free to point out that Stalin deliberately
killed plenty as well, even more than 6M
Post by Petzl
Slaughter only stopped by John Paul II bringing down the Berlin Wall
That fuckwit didn't bring down any wall.

The USSR imploded because it was never going
to be viable and that's what eventually saw Gorby
tell the krauts that they were on their own and
they had the sense to cave in on the wall and
the other internal borders with west germany,
Post by Petzl
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2019-11/world-remembers-30-anniversary-berlin-wall.html
https://is.gd/hctywK
"The moment has come for Western Europeans to help their brothers
fully reclaim the place that is rightfully theirs in Europe. Both now
and in the future," Pope John Paul II
That shit wasn't what did it, any more than what Raygun said either.
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 03:04:22 UTC
Permalink
Dopey wrote:

----snip----
Post by Dechucka
I totally agree that it made no difference how the people died, in fact
maybe it was better to go quickly rather than suffer. I don't know :-(
where there is life there is hope
Tell that to the terminally ill or injured.

----snip----
Ian Jackson
2020-01-28 08:29:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Post by Ian Jackson
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany. They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps. Dachau being one of these
camps.
Not according to various sources. There was eventually a gas chamber and
crematorium, but Dachau was not used for mass-murder in the way that the
purpose-built extermination camps were (although that rather depends on
how large 'mass' needs to be).
http://tinyurl.com/yx7r692q
<https://www.holocaust.cz/en/history/concentration-camps-and-ghettos/dach
au-2/>

"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
--
Ian
Ördög
2020-01-28 19:38:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ian Jackson
Fran
Post by Petzl
Ian Jackson
Post by Ian Jackson
Petz
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany Nazi extermination
camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied countries
No - a quick Google seems to indicate that some camps WERE in Germany
proper - but these were not the extermination camps.
Of course there were extermination camps in Germany. They started out
as just concentration camps holding, torturing and abusing people but
they certainly became extermination camps. Dachau being one of these
camps.
Not according to various sources. There was eventually a gas chamber and
crematorium, but Dachau was not used for mass-murder in the way that the
purpose-built extermination camps were (although that rather depends on
how large 'mass' needs to be).
http://tinyurl.com/yx7r692q
<https://www.holocaust.cz/en/history/concentration-camps-and-ghettos/
dach
Post by Ian Jackson
au-2/>
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
--
Ördög, without any apologies !!!
Petzl
2020-01-28 20:06:13 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Ian Jackson
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
Communism: 100 000 000 killed.
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.

Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.

Ordog supports Communism
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Ördög
2020-01-28 20:23:46 UTC
Permalink
Petz
Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Ian Jackson
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place
by means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
Communism: [please insert here any imaginary huge number] killed.
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Is this your desperate attempt at justifying the horrible record of the
Nazis?
Pathetic shit!
Both of these far-left ideologies
Nazism was and still is NOT a leftist ideology. You should really know
better than that for being such a lovely diligent alt-right/neo-Nazi
shithead yourself!
Ordog supports Communism
I am a reform communist supporting democratic socialism.
That is why I know exactly what is the real difference between the
political spectrum of the Left and the extremist Far-right.

You are entitled to your own opinions Petz dear, but you do not have the
right to manufacture your own set of so called "facts" for public
consumption.
"It cannot be overstated, ...
...that Petz is an far-right, racist, bigot, Antisemitic and Islamophobic
neo-Nazi scumbag.
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Petzl
2020-01-28 20:50:29 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
<***@your.scary.shadow.edu> wrote:

Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Communism: killed.
[please insert here any imaginary huge number]
The number of deaths by Communists is given as follows:

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Eastern Bloc
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America
10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist
movement and Communist parties not in power"

Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.

Ordog supports Communism
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-28 21:09:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships in addittion to the
30 000 000 your Nazi German mates killed eg Gowon, Tojo, King Leopold 2,
Pasha, Sukarno, Omar etc. You include many egs below without cites so it
is a bit unfair to compare your ideological mate Hitler with many
communists.

My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
Post by Petzl
Communism: killed.
[please insert here any imaginary huge number]
65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Eastern Bloc
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America
10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist
movement and Communist parties not in power"
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
Ordog supports Communism
Petzl
2020-01-28 21:26:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships in addittion to the
30 000 000 your Nazi German mates killed eg Gowon, Tojo, King Leopold 2,
Pasha, Sukarno, Omar etc. You include many egs below without cites so it
is a bit unfair to compare your ideological mate Hitler with many
communists.
My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
My POV as well
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Communism: killed.
[please insert here any imaginary huge number]
65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Eastern Bloc
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America
10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist
movement and Communist parties not in power"
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
Ordog supports Communism
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-28 21:33:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships in addittion to the
30 000 000 your Nazi German mates killed eg Gowon, Tojo, King Leopold 2,
Pasha, Sukarno, Omar etc. You include many egs below without cites so it
is a bit unfair to compare your ideological mate Hitler with many
communists.
My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
My POV as well
Come on you are a great supporter of Hitler and his extermination
policies, even to the extent of blaming the victims. You support the
single Party State China in it's imprisonment of people based on race
for political reason (hey you probably support the annexation and
repression in Tibet). You love a totalitarian society esp if they the
lock up Jews and Moslems in concentration camps.
Petzl
2020-01-28 23:09:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships in addittion to the
30 000 000 your Nazi German mates killed eg Gowon, Tojo, King Leopold 2,
Pasha, Sukarno, Omar etc. You include many egs below without cites so it
is a bit unfair to compare your ideological mate Hitler with many
communists.
My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
My POV as well
Come on you are a great supporter of Hitler and his extermination
policies, even to the extent of blaming the victims. You support the
single Party State China in it's imprisonment of people based on race
for political reason (hey you probably support the annexation and
repression in Tibet). You love a totalitarian society esp if they the
lock up Jews and Moslems in concentration camps.
Your normal spin deceit

My problem with the attack on the Nazis is down to pro Jewish media.

The beliefs at the time were that the Jews were in control of the
Bolsheviks who by the Time of WWII had exterminated over 20 million
non-Jews and were heading Germany's way. "We" sided with the wrong
team, caused the Soviet union to set up extermination camps/Gulags all
over Europe after WWII.
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.In 1920

Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII

Historian Sir Winston Churchill wrote
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 23:18:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships in addittion to the
30 000 000 your Nazi German mates killed eg Gowon, Tojo, King Leopold 2,
Pasha, Sukarno, Omar etc. You include many egs below without cites so it
is a bit unfair to compare your ideological mate Hitler with many
communists.
My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
My POV as well
Come on you are a great supporter of Hitler and his extermination
policies, even to the extent of blaming the victims. You support the
single Party State China in it's imprisonment of people based on race
for political reason (hey you probably support the annexation and
repression in Tibet). You love a totalitarian society esp if they the
lock up Jews and Moslems in concentration camps.
Your normal spin deceit
My problem with the attack on the Nazis is down to pro Jewish media.
BULLSHIT.
Post by Petzl
The beliefs at the time were that the
Jews were in control of the Bolsheviks
Just rabid anti semitism, they werent.
Post by Petzl
who by the Time of WWII had exterminated
over 20 million non-Jews
That wasn't done by jews.
Post by Petzl
and were heading Germany's way.
Bullshit they were.
Post by Petzl
"We" sided with the wrong team,
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and that's saying something.
Post by Petzl
caused the Soviet union to set up extermination
camps/Gulags all over Europe after WWII.
Another bare faced lies. They only did
that in the USSR, not all over Europe.
Post by Petzl
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.In 1920
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and that's saying something.
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Post by Petzl
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
Petzl
2020-01-28 23:39:37 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:18:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian, but he was a Historian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill_as_historian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 01:01:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:18:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,, and very biased one at that.
Post by Petzl
but he was a Historian
Pigs arse he was.

And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.

And he always was a rabid anti semite.
Post by Petzl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill_as_historian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 02:10:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.

His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
Post by Rod Speed
and very biased one at that.
Biased, yet. A real pig, in fact.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
but he was a Historian
Pigs arse he was.
He thought he was.
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that. He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler, thereby overcoming his
WW I disgrace and getting himself back in front-bench contention
in Parliament.

----snip----
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 03:21:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.

And I have read that, they are right.

It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956–58
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
and very biased one at that.
Biased, yet. A real pig, in fact.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
but he was a Historian
Pigs arse he was.
He thought he was.
Sure, but real historians don’t believe that he was.

Biographer at most with Marlborough,
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It’s a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money, he ended up replacing
that fool Chamberlain
Post by Ned Latham
thereby overcoming his WW I disgrace
And his fuckup in the great depression.
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 03:43:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that? I thought it was a 1930s publication.

----snip----
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London. And there was an
element of money-motivated warmongering in UK and USA after
Hitler repudiated the gold standard markets and started barter
trading.
Post by Rod Speed
he ended up replacing that fool Chamberlain
Much later. After the war started.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
thereby overcoming his WW I disgrace
And his fuckup in the great depression.
LOL. Yair, I forgot about that.

(But I read somewhere that the Tonypandy massacre is myth.)
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
Petzl
2020-01-29 04:02:03 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:43:36 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
It was Winston Churchill who said:
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."

According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true. Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the
House of Rothschild. So too was his adversary Winston Churchill.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Peter Jason
2020-01-29 04:20:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:43:36 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
Probably one of his speechwriters. The whisky-sodden old drunk was
very over-rated.
Petzl
2020-01-29 08:11:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Peter Jason
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:43:36 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
Probably one of his speechwriters. The whisky-sodden old drunk was
very over-rated.
I agree.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 09:08:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Peter Jason
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:43:36 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
Probably one of his speechwriters. The whisky-sodden old drunk was
very over-rated.
I agree.
?So why do you believe his stupid claims about jews ?
Dechucka
2020-01-29 04:24:57 UTC
Permalink
snip
Post by Petzl
According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true. Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the
House of Rothschild.
So the House of Rothschild planned and implemented the Holocaust. Were
they helped by the Illuminati, Masons, Saurian's/Draconian and George Soros?

OK pez how many goon-bags? You're spouting weirdo conspiracy theories
again.

Hey I saw the S Highlands black panther last night paroling the Belanglo
State Forest. Got some blurry photos to prove it you want to but them?
BTW Milat is innocent I read it on the Internet so it must be true
Dechucka
2020-01-29 04:29:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true. Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the
House of Rothschild.
So the House of Rothschild planned and implemented the Holocaust. Were
they helped by the Illuminati, Masons, Saurian's/Draconian and George Soros?
OK pez how many goon-bags? You're spouting weirdo conspiracy theories
again.
Hey I saw the S Highlands black panther last night paroling the Belanglo
State Forest. Got some blurry photos to prove it you want to but them?
BTW Milat is innocent I read it on the Internet so it must be true
Patrolling , and buy. Insert where needed
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 04:44:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:43:36 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true.
Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the House of Rothschild.
Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

So the House of Rothschild deliberately engineered the holocaust eh ?

Yeah, right,
Post by Petzl
So too was his adversary Winston Churchill.
Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 05:34:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
Not much of an insight, that. All of the factions of all or our
establishments have been assiduous in that practise, in war-time
*and* in peace, since the year dot.
Post by Petzl
According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true.
There's no reasonable way to suspect that such a thing could occur
without his knowledge. Therefore, either he masterminded it or he
consented to it.
Post by Petzl
Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the
House of Rothschild. So too was his adversary Winston Churchill.
That's just not believable. Hitler was taking orders from the
Rothschilds?

Are you saying it is they who ordered the holocaust, Petzl?
Petzl
2020-01-29 08:14:06 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:34:23 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Petzl
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
Not much of an insight, that. All of the factions of all or our
establishments have been assiduous in that practise, in war-time
*and* in peace, since the year dot.
Post by Petzl
According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true.
There's no reasonable way to suspect that such a thing could occur
without his knowledge. Therefore, either he masterminded it or he
consented to it.
Post by Petzl
Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the
House of Rothschild. So too was his adversary Winston Churchill.
That's just not believable. Hitler was taking orders from the
Rothschilds?
Are you saying it is they who ordered the holocaust, Petzl?
The Rothchilds bankrolled wars.
So maybe?
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 09:11:03 UTC
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and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
"In war-time, truth is so precious that she should always be attended
by a bodyguard of lies."
Not much of an insight, that. All of the factions of all or our
establishments have been assiduous in that practise, in war-time
*and* in peace, since the year dot.
Post by Petzl
According to accepted history, Adolf Hitler masterminded the
Holocaust. This is just not true.
There's no reasonable way to suspect that such a thing could occur
without his knowledge. Therefore, either he masterminded it or he
consented to it.
Post by Petzl
Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the
House of Rothschild. So too was his adversary Winston Churchill.
That's just not believable. Hitler was taking orders from the
Rothschilds?
Are you saying it is they who ordered the holocaust, Petzl?
The Rothchilds bankrolled wars.
Like hell they did with the Boer War, WW1
and WW2, Korea, Malaya, Vietnam etc etc etc.
Post by Petzl
So maybe?
Nope.
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 04:37:44 UTC
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Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_English-Speaking_Peoples
Post by Ned Latham
I thought it was a 1930s publication.
Nope, he didn’t even start writing it until 1937 and
writing most of it only happened after the war.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
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Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London.
Not on that question of going to war and who
would replace that fool Chamberlain they werent.
Post by Ned Latham
And there was an element of money-motivated
warmongering in UK and USA after Hitler
repudiated the gold standard markets
and started barter trading.
Not by jews in britain.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
he ended up replacing that fool Chamberlain
Much later. After the war started.
Yes, but he never agitated to replace him
before war was declared. The most he did
was point out that appeasing him would
end in tears and he was right about that.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
thereby overcoming his WW I disgrace
And his fuckup in the great depression.
LOL. Yair, I forgot about that.
(But I read somewhere that the Tonypandy massacre is myth.)
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
and getting himself back in front-
bench contention in Parliament.
That was never due to the jews.
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
No it wasn’t. What did that was him wanting about
appeasing Hitler and when that turned out to have
been spot on, and not just his war mongering, that’s
what saw him replace that fool Chamberlain
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 20:08:56 UTC
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Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_English-Speaking_Peoples
Post by Ned Latham
I thought it was a 1930s publication.
Nope, he didn't even start writing it until 1937 and
writing most of it only happened after the war.
Right. I bought a part-work publication of it 1969-70 and read
the whole thing one month at a time. It included extras such as
archaeological reports and technical reports on this and that,
and they were more interesting than the "History" itself. Don't
remember much of it now; only ever read it the once before some
arsehole stole it. Never noticed the publication history.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London.
Not on that question of going to war and who
would replace that fool Chamberlain they werent.
A penny dropped when I got to the end of your post, Rod.

We've been talking about two different stages of his life:
you've been talking about him after he returned to the front
bench; I've been talking about his disgrace in the aftermath
of Gallipoli. The Party couldn't sack him, I suppose, but they
certainly could shackle him.

They banished him to the back bench. Years later he read
"Mein Kampf". And around the same time he became increasingly
noisy about re-armament and the evils of Hitler and the Nazis.

The first is always popular with the establishment; the second,
in those days, no less so with people whose wealth Hitler
threatened, let alone any who feared him.

As I see it, they would speak well of Churchill in the clubs
and drawing rooms of the powerful, and his star would rise.

Which it did, He was back on the Front Bench.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
And there was an element of money-motivated
warmongering in UK and USA after Hitler
repudiated the gold standard markets
and started barter trading.
I should have separated that statement from the one obove;
that move was much later in time than the period I *meant*
to be talking about.
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews in britain.
Of course not. That sort of thing is why the big money men keep
stables of Paid Men in Parliament.

----snip stuff I accept----
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild circle
was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
No it wasn't.
This is where the penny dropped. I was talking here aboout the
post-war period of disgrace. He jumped on all sorts of bandwagons,
but stayed a pariah until he got onto the anti-Hitler theme soon
after "Mein Kampf" was published, 1926 or so. He was back on the
front bench by the early thirties.

Then later in the thirties...
Post by Rod Speed
What did that was him wanting about
appeasing Hitler and when that turned out to have
been spot on, and not just his war mongering, that's
what saw him replace that fool Chamberlain
Yep. I agree.
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 21:59:20 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution" pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_English-Speaking_Peoples
Post by Ned Latham
I thought it was a 1930s publication.
Nope, he didn't even start writing it until 1937 and
writing most of it only happened after the war.
Right. I bought a part-work publication of it 1969-70 and read
the whole thing one month at a time. It included extras such as
archaeological reports and technical reports on this and that,
and they were more interesting than the "History" itself. Don't
remember much of it now; only ever read it the once before some
arsehole stole it. Never noticed the publication history.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London.
Not on that question of going to war and who
would replace that fool Chamberlain they werent.
A penny dropped when I got to the end of your post, Rod.
you've been talking about him after he returned to the front
bench; I've been talking about his disgrace in the aftermath
of Gallipoli. The Party couldn't sack him, I suppose, but they
certainly could shackle him.
They banished him to the back bench. Years later he read
"Mein Kampf". And around the same time he became increasingly
noisy about re-armament and the evils of Hitler and the Nazis.
The first is always popular with the establishment;
It wasn’t then with Britain still very badly
affected by the great depression.
Post by Ned Latham
the second, in those days, no less so with
people whose wealth Hitler threatened,
let alone any who feared him.
Sure,, but it wasn't the jews in Britain that Churchill
was trying to appeal to, he just realised what Hitler
could end up doing and was proved right on that.
Post by Ned Latham
As I see it, they would speak well of Churchill in the clubs
and drawing rooms of the powerful, and his star would rise.
Which it did, He was back on the Front Bench.
Only because what he said would happen did.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
And there was an element of money-motivated
warmongering in UK and USA after Hitler
repudiated the gold standard markets
and started barter trading.
I should have separated that statement from the one obove;
that move was much later in time than the period I *meant*
to be talking about.
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews in britain.
Of course not. That sort of thing is why the big money
men keep stables of Paid Men in Parliament.
There wasn’t much of that in the runup to WW2,
Post by Ned Latham
----snip stuff I accept----
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild
circle was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
No it wasn't.
This is where the penny dropped. I was talking here aboout
the post-war period of disgrace. He jumped on all sorts of
bandwagons, but stayed a pariah until he got onto the anti-
Hitler theme soon after "Mein Kampf" was published, 1926
or so. He was back on the front bench by the early thirties.
But that wasn’t the reason he got to be chancellor and fucked up
completely by returning to the gold standard at the wrong value.
Post by Ned Latham
Then later in the thirties...
Post by Rod Speed
What did that was him wanting about
appeasing Hitler and when that turned out to have
been spot on, and not just his war mongering, that's
what saw him replace that fool Chamberlain
Yep. I agree.
Petzl
2020-01-30 00:50:33 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution"
pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_English-Speaking_Peoples
Post by Ned Latham
I thought it was a 1930s publication.
Nope, he didn't even start writing it until 1937 and
writing most of it only happened after the war.
Right. I bought a part-work publication of it 1969-70 and read
the whole thing one month at a time. It included extras such as
archaeological reports and technical reports on this and that,
and they were more interesting than the "History" itself. Don't
remember much of it now; only ever read it the once before some
arsehole stole it. Never noticed the publication history.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London.
Not on that question of going to war and who
would replace that fool Chamberlain they werent.
A penny dropped when I got to the end of your post, Rod.
you've been talking about him after he returned to the front
bench; I've been talking about his disgrace in the aftermath
of Gallipoli. The Party couldn't sack him, I suppose, but they
certainly could shackle him.
They banished him to the back bench. Years later he read
"Mein Kampf". And around the same time he became increasingly
noisy about re-armament and the evils of Hitler and the Nazis.
The first is always popular with the establishment;
It wasn’t then with Britain still very badly
affected by the great depression.
Post by Ned Latham
the second, in those days, no less so with
people whose wealth Hitler threatened,
let alone any who feared him.
Sure,, but it wasn't the jews in Britain that Churchill
was trying to appeal to, he just realised what Hitler
could end up doing and was proved right on that.
Post by Ned Latham
As I see it, they would speak well of Churchill in the clubs
and drawing rooms of the powerful, and his star would rise.
Which it did, He was back on the Front Bench.
Only because what he said would happen did.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
And there was an element of money-motivated
warmongering in UK and USA after Hitler
repudiated the gold standard markets
and started barter trading.
I should have separated that statement from the one obove;
that move was much later in time than the period I *meant*
to be talking about.
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews in britain.
Of course not. That sort of thing is why the big money
men keep stables of Paid Men in Parliament.
There wasn’t much of that in the runup to WW2,
The historic irony is that when all the facts are known, it is more
likely that Winston Churchill had more of a hand in masterminding the
Holocaust than Hitler. This should sound outrageous…by design. A great
deal of effort went into hiding the fact that World War II was a phony
war engineered by the Global elitists, among them men like Churchill.
Post by Ned Latham
----snip stuff I accept----
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild
circle was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
No it wasn't.
This is where the penny dropped. I was talking here aboout
the post-war period of disgrace. He jumped on all sorts of
bandwagons, but stayed a pariah until he got onto the anti-
Hitler theme soon after "Mein Kampf" was published, 1926
or so. He was back on the front bench by the early thirties.
But that wasn’t the reason he got to be chancellor and fucked up
completely by returning to the gold standard at the wrong value.
Post by Ned Latham
Then later in the thirties...
Post by Rod Speed
What did that was him wanting about
appeasing Hitler and when that turned out to have
been spot on, and not just his war mongering, that's
what saw him replace that fool Chamberlain
Yep. I agree.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-01-30 01:14:16 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:59:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution"
pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_English-Speaking_Peoples
Post by Ned Latham
I thought it was a 1930s publication.
Nope, he didn't even start writing it until 1937 and
writing most of it only happened after the war.
Right. I bought a part-work publication of it 1969-70 and read
the whole thing one month at a time. It included extras such as
archaeological reports and technical reports on this and that,
and they were more interesting than the "History" itself. Don't
remember much of it now; only ever read it the once before some
arsehole stole it. Never noticed the publication history.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London.
Not on that question of going to war and who
would replace that fool Chamberlain they werent.
A penny dropped when I got to the end of your post, Rod.
you've been talking about him after he returned to the front
bench; I've been talking about his disgrace in the aftermath
of Gallipoli. The Party couldn't sack him, I suppose, but they
certainly could shackle him.
They banished him to the back bench. Years later he read
"Mein Kampf". And around the same time he became increasingly
noisy about re-armament and the evils of Hitler and the Nazis.
The first is always popular with the establishment;
It wasn't then with Britain still very badly
affected by the great depression.
Post by Ned Latham
the second, in those days, no less so with
people whose wealth Hitler threatened,
let alone any who feared him.
Sure,, but it wasn't the jews in Britain that Churchill
was trying to appeal to, he just realised what Hitler
could end up doing and was proved right on that.
Post by Ned Latham
As I see it, they would speak well of Churchill in the clubs
and drawing rooms of the powerful, and his star would rise.
Which it did, He was back on the Front Bench.
Only because what he said would happen did.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
And there was an element of money-motivated
warmongering in UK and USA after Hitler
repudiated the gold standard markets
and started barter trading.
I should have separated that statement from the one obove;
that move was much later in time than the period I *meant*
to be talking about.
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews in britain.
Of course not. That sort of thing is why the big money
men keep stables of Paid Men in Parliament.
There wasn't much of that in the runup to WW2,
The historic irony is that when all the facts are known,
it is more likely that Winston Churchill had more of a
hand in masterminding the Holocaust than Hitler.
That's bullshit. Hitler was always obsessed about the
jews even tho he had some jews in his own extended
family. That's why he was so keen on restricting what
they could do in germany early on and encouraging
them to leave the country. Before he went much
further and chose to move 6M of them to poland
and kill them there.
Post by Petzl
This should sound outrageous.by design. A great
deal of effort went into hiding the fact that World
War II was a phony war engineered by the Global
elitists, among them men like Churchill.
That's utter bullshit too. It was no phony war. Hitler
chose to rearm germany and then was into completely
dominating europe by military invasion except for his
allies like Italy and Spain etc.

Same with Japan, that was no phony war.
Post by Petzl
Post by Ned Latham
----snip stuff I accept----
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
As I recall from what I've read, support from the Rothschild
circle was the beginning of his rehabilitation.
No it wasn't.
This is where the penny dropped. I was talking here aboout
the post-war period of disgrace. He jumped on all sorts of
bandwagons, but stayed a pariah until he got onto the anti-
Hitler theme soon after "Mein Kampf" was published, 1926
or so. He was back on the front bench by the early thirties.
But that wasn't the reason he got to be chancellor and fucked up
completely by returning to the gold standard at the wrong value.
Post by Ned Latham
Then later in the thirties...
Post by Rod Speed
What did that was him wanting about
appeasing Hitler and when that turned out to have
been spot on, and not just his war mongering, that's
what saw him replace that fool Chamberlain
Yep. I agree.
Dechucka
2020-01-30 01:19:24 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:59:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Views of Jews influence on the "Russian Revolution"
pre-WWII
That fool got plenty wrong and was never a historian.
Churchill was not a trained historian,
In fact was only ever a politician,
No. He was a "journalist", a war correspondent in the Second Boer War,
a war criminal in that conflict (I think - not real sure abt tt),
a drunkard with aristocratic pretensions, a writer of histories,
and like Hitler, a miltary ignoramus who thought he was a genius.
His credibility as a historian can probably be gauged by his "History
of the English-Speakibg Peoples", published, IMO, in an effort to get
the USA on side for the war he was fomenting with Nazi Germany.
There has in fact been a lot of criticism
by real historians of the detail in that.
And I have read that, they are right.
I read it back in the seventies, and yes, I would criticise it
on historical grounds too.
Post by Rod Speed
It cant have been to get the USA involved
in the war, it was published in 1956?58
You sure about that?
Yep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_English-Speaking_Peoples
Post by Ned Latham
I thought it was a 1930s publication.
Nope, he didn't even start writing it until 1937 and
writing most of it only happened after the war.
Right. I bought a part-work publication of it 1969-70 and read
the whole thing one month at a time. It included extras such as
archaeological reports and technical reports on this and that,
and they were more interesting than the "History" itself. Don't
remember much of it now; only ever read it the once before some
arsehole stole it. Never noticed the publication history.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
And he was just plain wrong with his stupid claim about
jewish terrorism. And rabidly biased about the Bolshevists
and completely one eyed about the russian revolution.
And he always was a rabid anti semite.
I doubt that.
It's a fact, like many of his generation in Britain.
Post by Ned Latham
He was able to curry favour with London's big-money
power-brokers by ranting against Hitler,
It was never about money,
They were an important power bloc in London.
Not on that question of going to war and who
would replace that fool Chamberlain they werent.
A penny dropped when I got to the end of your post, Rod.
you've been talking about him after he returned to the front
bench; I've been talking about his disgrace in the aftermath
of Gallipoli. The Party couldn't sack him, I suppose, but they
certainly could shackle him.
They banished him to the back bench. Years later he read
"Mein Kampf". And around the same time he became increasingly
noisy about re-armament and the evils of Hitler and the Nazis.
The first is always popular with the establishment;
It wasn’t then with Britain still very badly
affected by the great depression.
Post by Ned Latham
the second, in those days, no less so with
people whose wealth Hitler threatened,
let alone any who feared him.
Sure,, but it wasn't the jews in Britain that Churchill
was trying to appeal to, he just realised what Hitler
could end up doing and was proved right on that.
Post by Ned Latham
As I see it, they would speak well of Churchill in the clubs
and drawing rooms of the powerful, and his star would rise.
Which it did, He was back on the Front Bench.
Only because what he said would happen did.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
And there was an element of money-motivated
warmongering in UK and USA after Hitler
repudiated the gold standard markets
and started barter trading.
I should have separated that statement from the one obove;
that move was much later in time than the period I *meant*
to be talking about.
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews in britain.
Of course not. That sort of thing is why the big money
men keep stables of Paid Men in Parliament.
There wasn’t much of that in the runup to WW2,
The historic irony is that when all the facts are known,
Of course they are so why do you deny them and post revisionist lies

it is more
Post by Petzl
likely that Winston Churchill had more of a hand in masterminding the
Holocaust than Hitler. This should sound outrageous…by design. A great
deal of effort went into hiding the fact that World War II was a phony
war engineered by the Global elitists, among them men like Churchill.
Yep it was the reptilian shape-shifting humanoids.
You've really lost it.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 23:50:29 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:23:46 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships in addittion to the
30 000 000 your Nazi German mates killed eg Gowon, Tojo, King Leopold 2,
Pasha, Sukarno, Omar etc. You include many egs below without cites so it
is a bit unfair to compare your ideological mate Hitler with many
communists.
My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
My POV as well
Come on you are a great supporter of Hitler and his extermination
policies, even to the extent of blaming the victims. You support the
single Party State China in it's imprisonment of people based on race
for political reason (hey you probably support the annexation and
repression in Tibet). You love a totalitarian society esp if they the
lock up Jews and Moslems in concentration camps.
Your normal spin deceit
My problem with the attack on the Nazis is down to pro Jewish media.
Your problem is that you are an anti-Semite who pushes a revisionist
history that is not based on facts and blames the victims. Your argument
is historically and morally invalid.

snip
Ördög
2020-01-28 21:40:48 UTC
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Petz
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
My pov is that totalitarian regimes from the left or right are evil.
My POV as well
Liar. Obviously not, as you keep on banging about your dream version Xtian
theocracy where where Muslims, Leftists and atheists are stripped of
their citizenship and locked up in concentration camps.
You are on record stating that asylum seekers should be shot on the beach
as they land or sunk off shore in their rickety boats.

You keep on apologising for neo-Nazi terrorism, you keep on spewing
Antisemitic diatribe, you believe in racial discrimination.

In other words you are a far-right extremist. That is a fact, even if you
delude yourself into believing that you are not.

--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Ned Latham
2020-01-28 21:47:33 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Why don't you include other right-wing dictatorships
Not possible, moron: communism, fascism and naziism are LEFT-wing.

----snip----
Ördög
2020-01-28 21:30:59 UTC
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Petz
Post by Petzl
Ördög
What a creative goal posts shifting snipping Petz dear!

But it won' t work because I won't let it!
This sub-thread is about your Nazi apologism and revisionism.
So here we go...restore some context:

Ördög:

I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.

Petz:
Communism: [100 000 000] killed.
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.

Ördög:
Communism: [please insert here any imaginary huge number]
Is this your desperate attempt at justifying the horrible record of the
Nazis?
Pathetic shit!

Petz:
Both of these far-left ideologies

Ördög:
Nazism was and still is NOT a leftist ideology. You should really know
better than that for being such a lovely diligent alt-right/neo-Nazi
shithead yourself!

Petz:
Ordog supports Communism

Ördög:
I am a reform communist supporting democratic socialism.
That is why I know exactly what is the real difference between the
political spectrum of the Left and the extremist Far-right.

You are entitled to your own opinions Petz dear, but you do not have the
right to manufacture your own set of so called "facts" for public
consumption.

Petz:
It cannot be overstated, ...

Ördög:
...that Petz is an far-right, racist, bigot, Antisemitic and Islamophobic
neo-Nazi scumbag.
Yes, yes, yes.....

But is that your justification for being a neo-Nazi Antisemitic
scumbag???? Is that your justification for rabid revisionism?
Post by Petzl
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
You can bang on about that idiotic long debunked crap but the fact
remains:
1 You are a documented Nazi apologist
2 You are an alt-right bigoted Antisemitic and Islamophobic neo-Nazi.
3 You have obviously never supported any Leftist ideologies.
Post by Petzl
Ordog supports Communism
For the umpteenth time:
*I am a reform communist supporting democratic socialism*

Anyhow, my political orientation has bugger all to do with and definitely
not a valid excuse for your alt-right, Antisemitic neo-Nazism.

Let me repeat:
*You are entitled to your own opinions Petz dear, but you do not have the
right to manufacture your own set of so called "facts" for public
consumption.*
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Ned Latham
2020-01-28 21:43:41 UTC
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The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög"), after all
this time, still can't connect the dots...
----snip----
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
Communism: 100 000 000 killed.
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Is this your desperate attempt at justifying the horrible record
of the Nazis?
It's quite obviously a legitimate comparison of the record of two
totalitarian régimes.
Post by Ördög
Pathetic shit!
That's *your* record.
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
Nazism was and still is NOT a leftist ideology.
Wrong again, moron. It is and always was socialist. And *that* you
retarded mad dog, is a *defintion* of leftism.

Modern NEO-naziism, now...
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
Ordog supports Communism
I am a reform communist supporting democratic socialism.
Bullshit. You're a Stalinist thug, with a long record of wishing
various form of harm (including lethal) on people.

If you had any democractic impulse within you, you'd recognise the
importance of honesty and freedom of expression. Your behaviour
puts the lie to any claim you might make to supporting *either*.
Post by Ördög
You are entitled to your own opinions
If you really supported that stance, you'd contest such of his opinions
as you disagree with honestly and without forging foulness into them
and without lunatic ranting about yout misrepresentations of them.
Post by Ördög
but you do not have the right to manufacture your own set of so
called "facts" for public consumption.
That goes for all of us, you lying maggot.

----Ördög-manufactured set of so-called "facts" snipped----
Fran
2020-01-29 01:54:40 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Petz
"It cannot be overstated, ...
...that Petz is an far-right, racist, bigot, Antisemitic and Islamophobic
neo-Nazi scumbag.
Indeed. The sad thing is that he doesn't realise that for people like
him, he'd be one of the first victims of the Nazis. He's old and blind
and stupid and he claims to be Aboriginal. For those attributes which
the Nazis would have considered to be defects, he'd be exterminated.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 21:46:48 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Ian Jackson
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
Communism: 100 000 000 killed.
Not by jews.
Post by Petzl
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
Ordog supports Communism
Petzl
2020-01-28 23:12:49 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 08:46:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Ian Jackson
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
Communism: 100 000 000 killed.
Not by jews.
Not according to Historian Sir Winston Churchill wrote 1920
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
Ordog supports Communism
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-28 23:57:13 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 08:46:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Ian Jackson
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
Communism: 100 000 000 killed.
Not by jews.
Not according to Historian Sir Winston Churchill wrote 1920
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.
So that justifies the murder of millions of Jews who had nothing to do
with Bolshevism? How is that logically or morally a correct position. Oh
wait you think all Moslem should suffer for the actions of a few radical
terrorists. Wait you don't believe that should apply to Christian, you
are so confused and illogical young pez.
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 00:54:35 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 08:46:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Ian Jackson
"A gas chamber was also built in Dachau next to the large crematorium,
but it was never used for mass murder. Killing at the camp took place by
means of execution, until it was liberated."
But I suppose from the victims' point of view it made bugger all of a
difference how and why they were exterminated.
From the Nazi's point of view however it was "good" PR trying to hide
their crimes as much as was possible.
Communism: 100 000 000 killed.
Not by jews.
Not according to Historian Sir Winston Churchill
He was never a historian, just a politician,
Post by Petzl
wrote 1920
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Nazism: 17 000 000 killed.
Both of these far-left ideologies are pure evil and must never be
allowed into power.
Ordog supports Communism
Dechucka
2020-01-29 01:04:01 UTC
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snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews.
Not according to Historian Sir Winston Churchill
He was never a historian, just a politician,
Although he was interested in politics from an early age he also spent
time as a soldier and a journalist. Would you like some cites? Don't
worry you wouldn't read them
Rod Speed
2020-01-29 02:29:25 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Not by jews.
Not according to Historian Sir Winston Churchill
He was never a historian, just a politician,
Although he was interested in politics from an early age he also spent
time as a soldier and a journalist.
No news.
Dechucka
2020-01-29 02:43:54 UTC
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snip
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
He was never a historian, just a politician,
Although he was interested in politics from an early age he also spent
time as a soldier and a journalist.
No news.
Not really just confirming you were wrong again
FMurtz
2020-01-27 13:01:25 UTC
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Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning
and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers
work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it,
I did, the evidence to the massive great enquiry after Ash Wednesday.
So where is the link to the article? to the evidence from the CSIRO
If there is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the
proof.
He cant do that because none were.
Rod Speed
2020-01-27 16:53:21 UTC
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Post by FMurtz
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning
and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the same
as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just waiting
around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you mean
shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers work
fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it,
I did, the evidence to the massive great enquiry after Ash Wednesday.
So where is the link to the article? to the evidence from the CSIRO
Don’t have it. I gave the info that is needed to find it.
Anyone can do what I would have to do to get a link.
Post by FMurtz
If there is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the
proof.
He cant do that because none were.
FMurtz
2020-01-30 03:15:25 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by FMurtz
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land
zoning and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with  intumescent seals) for the windows and
sprinklers work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would
just show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it,
I did, the evidence to the massive great enquiry after Ash Wednesday.
So where is the link to the article? to the evidence from the CSIRO
Don’t have it. I gave the info that is needed to find it.
Anyone can do what I would have to do to get a link.
Post by FMurtz
If there is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the
proof.
He cant do that because none were.
I have not enough hours in the day to sift through tons of stuff looking
for a small bit from the CSIRO
Rod Speed
2020-01-30 03:21:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by FMurtz
Post by Rod Speed
Post by FMurtz
Amongst other things on the to do list an improved land zoning
and
building code (properly enforced) would be a real action item.
If people just rebuilt what has been burn down exactly the
same as it
was before, the next unavoidable disaster would be just
waiting around
the corner.
Nice idea, but it is impossible to build flameproof building
No its not.
unless you want to live in a hermetically sealed
concrete box with overn glass and air storage.
That’s bullshit too. Intumescent shutters
for the windows and sprinklers work fine.
Do they, what conditions are they rated to?
Anything any bushfire can produce.
RatShit
Fact, and its been extensively researched by the
CSIRO etc after the worst of the previous bushfires.
So lets see this research that intumescent shutters (I assume you
mean shutters with intumescent seals) for the windows and sprinklers
work fine to stop 'Anything any bushfire can produce'.
Instead of yes it it is no it is'nt I just wish one of you would just
show proof, If the CSIRO said something where is it,
I did, the evidence to the massive great enquiry after Ash Wednesday.
So where is the link to the article? to the evidence from the CSIRO
Don’t have it. I gave the info that is needed to find it.
Anyone can do what I would have to do to get a link.
Post by FMurtz
If there is proof that people were asphyxiated in bomb where is the
proof.
He cant do that because none were.
I have not enough hours in the day to sift through tons of stuff looking
for a small bit from the CSIRO
Your problem. I saw the comment in a news item when the
inquiry happened and have no way of providing a link exce[t
by using the info I have provided. No reason why I should
bother if you arent going to bother yourself.

Doesn’t alter the fact that he said that to the enquiry.
Dechucka
2020-01-27 20:50:02 UTC
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At the time Auschwitz was needed
Needed? It was a death camp among other things. It is never a need to
kill innocent people
they fixed that by declaring one group fter another unneeded. the jews
were just another add-on to the list.
and supported by the pre-WWII allies.
The Bolsheviks were considered Jewish run.
Where these the Bolsheviks that won the war in Europe for the Allies?
The USA becoming a Ally is why the war turned and supported the
Bolsheviks, The USA did not see the need to stop Russian Bolshevik
army from occupying the then defeated Germany.
Bad luck Pez the Russians were the primary reason for the total defeat
of Germany in WW2 and the Poms/Yanks couldn't have stopped Russia
grabbing what they wanted.
Dechucka
2020-01-27 20:56:16 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 08:54:05 +1100, "Rod Speed"
By
the end of WWII food was very scarce so most prisoners were starving
Germanys extermination camps were not in Germany.
So your point is what? That you see these camps justified?
The Nazis mistreated all inmates of their camps from day one onward,
Not all of them. A few were well treated and
ended up as servants etc of the camp guards.
no concentration/extermination camp was in Germany
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
There were certainly concentration camps in Germany eg Dachau the
extermination camps ( there were comparatively few were mainly in Poland)
Dechucka
2020-01-27 20:59:55 UTC
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. Many German Jews were gassed
Because it was much easier to conceal what
they were up to when they were located there.
Maybe not true, those exterminated were those from the country Germany
occupied not from Germany
Wrong as per normal, German Jews were gassed in Polish extermination
camps mainly after being deported to ghettos in Poland.
Dechucka
2020-01-27 21:05:33 UTC
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Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
Because it was much easier to conceal what they were up to when they
were located there.
Maybe not true, those exterminated were those from the country Germany
occupied not from Germany
Wrong, they were just sent out of Germany to the camps.
When this suposedly happened ther were around a quarter of a million
Jews left in Germany, the others had fled.
So what! Desperate diversion as normal when called.
Those that stayed were mainly not Nazi targets, old, incapacited,
mixed marriages and so on.
Hey you revisionist nazi lover walk around any German town and read the
Stolpersteins.
Dechucka
2020-01-27 21:11:22 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 17:15:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Nazi extermination camps were outside of Germany, in newly occupied
countries
Because it was much easier to conceal what they were up to when they
were located there.
Maybe not true, those exterminated were those from the country Germany
occupied not from Germany
Wrong, they were just sent out of Germany to the camps.
When this suposedly happened
Nothing supposedly about it.
ther were around a quarter of a million
Jews left in Germany, the others had fled.
That's one hell of a spin on the real numbers.
There were in fact only half a million jews
in germany in 1933 and many of those who
fed to places like France etc ended up in
extermination anyway.
But not in Germany as I have repeatedly said before.
France was a occupied country, so Jews were targets.
The Jews were targeted in Germany you ignorant Nazi
Dechucka
2020-01-27 21:15:37 UTC
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Not when the bushfire doesn’t burn over the house
bunker for
long enough to produce enough CO2 in the bunker to matter.
Pray for a quick fire as you asphyxiate
Don’t need one. No bushfire lasts long enough
for the occupants of the bunker house to use
up all the oxygen in the bunker house, fuckwit.
Totally dependent on the number of people and the size of
the bunker.
In reality it will never happen. It never did with
WW2 bomb shelters and they were in their with
a hell of a lot more people than anyone ever has
in a house bunker in a bushfire in this country,
It certainly did, people died of asphyxiation in bomb
shelters particularly during the 1000 bomber fire raids as
the fires depleted the oxygen.
BULLSHIT.
You really are fact adverse
You wouldn’t know a real fact if it bit you on your lard arse.
    There were very few public air raid shelters. The largest,
beneath
    the main railway station, was housing 6,000 refugees.[79] As a
    result, most people took shelter in  their cellars,
No mention of anyone suffocating in the few public air raid
shelters in
Dresden that night. Hardly surprising given that there were so
few of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#On_the_ground
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were
augmented by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames
quickly combined to form a raging terror storm that consumed
more than 12 square miles and burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated
roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and bomb
shelters
Pity there were fuck all PUBLIC bomb shelters,
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
People were asphyxiated in bomb shelters both in Dresden and Hamburg.
No they were not.
They were as my cites showed.
No cite of yours said anything like that.
Read it and weep
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented by
incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined to
form a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square miles and
burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they
huddled in basements and bomb shelters
Doesn’t say that anyone was asphyxiated in any bomb shelter, fuckwit.
"asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and bomb
shelters "
And since none ever were in any bomb shelter in Britain,
Britain? Why move the goalposts
your stupid line about anyone running out of oxygen or
being asphyxiated by an excess of CO2 in a bomb shelter
has always been just another mindlessly silly pig ignorant
claim by a fool that doesn’t have a fucking clue, as always.
Do what you like. If you want to stay in a bush-fire bunker so be it
Rod Speed
2020-01-27 23:07:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
snip
Not when the bushfire doesn’t burn over the house bunker
for
long enough to produce enough CO2 in the bunker to
matter.
Pray for a quick fire as you asphyxiate
Don’t need one. No bushfire lasts long enough
for the occupants of the bunker house to use
up all the oxygen in the bunker house, fuckwit.
Totally dependent on the number of people and the size of
the bunker.
In reality it will never happen. It never did with
WW2 bomb shelters and they were in their with
a hell of a lot more people than anyone ever has
in a house bunker in a bushfire in this country,
It certainly did, people died of asphyxiation in bomb shelters
particularly during the 1000 bomber fire raids as the fires
depleted the oxygen.
BULLSHIT.
You really are fact adverse
You wouldn’t know a real fact if it bit you on your lard arse.
There were very few public air raid shelters. The largest,
beneath
the main railway station, was housing 6,000 refugees.[79] As
a
result, most people took shelter in their cellars,
No mention of anyone suffocating in the few public air raid
shelters in
Dresden that night. Hardly surprising given that there were so
few of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#On_the_ground
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented
by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined
to form a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square
miles and burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people
as they huddled in basements and bomb shelters
Pity there were fuck all PUBLIC bomb shelters,
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
People were asphyxiated in bomb shelters both in Dresden and Hamburg.
No they were not.
They were as my cites showed.
No cite of yours said anything like that.
Read it and weep
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented by
incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined to form
a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square miles and
burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled
in basements and bomb shelters
Doesn’t say that anyone was asphyxiated in any bomb shelter, fuckwit.
"asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and bomb
shelters "
Doesn’t say in the full form that any in bomb shelters
were asphyxiated, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
And since none ever were in any bomb shelter in Britain,
Britain?
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Why move the goalposts
No goal posts were ever moved, that is what
I originally referred to because we know that
no one was ever asphyxiated in a bomb shelter
in Britain and that proves you don’t have a
fucking clue, as always.
Post by Dechucka
your stupid line about anyone running out of oxygen or
being asphyxiated by an excess of CO2 in a bomb shelter
has always been just another mindlessly silly pig ignorant
claim by a fool that doesn’t have a fucking clue, as always.
Do what you like. If you want to stay in a bush-fire bunker so be it
I don’t, no need to. I don’t live in the bush, fuckwit.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 02:51:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Not when the bushfire doesn’t burn over the house
bunker for
long enough to produce enough CO2 in the bunker to
matter.
Pray for a quick fire as you asphyxiate
Don’t need one. No bushfire lasts long enough
for the occupants of the bunker house to use
up all the oxygen in the bunker house, fuckwit.
Totally dependent on the number of people and the size
of the bunker.
In reality it will never happen. It never did with
WW2 bomb shelters and they were in their with
a hell of a lot more people than anyone ever has
in a house bunker in a bushfire in this country,
It certainly did, people died of asphyxiation in bomb
shelters particularly during the 1000 bomber fire raids as
the fires depleted the oxygen.
BULLSHIT.
You really are fact adverse
You wouldn’t know a real fact if it bit you on your lard arse.
    There were very few public air raid shelters. The
largest, beneath
    the main railway station, was housing 6,000 refugees.[79] As a
    result, most people took shelter in  their cellars,
No mention of anyone suffocating in the few public air raid
shelters in
Dresden that night. Hardly surprising given that there were
so few of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#On_the_ground
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were
augmented by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames
quickly combined to form a raging terror storm that consumed
more than 12 square miles and burned, blew apart, or
asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements
and bomb shelters
Pity there were fuck all PUBLIC bomb shelters,
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
People were asphyxiated in bomb shelters both in Dresden and Hamburg.
No they were not.
They were as my cites showed.
No cite of yours said anything like that.
Read it and weep
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented by
incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined to
form a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square miles
and burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they
huddled in basements and bomb shelters
Doesn’t say that anyone was asphyxiated in any bomb shelter, fuckwit.
"asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and
bomb shelters "
Doesn’t say in the full form that any in bomb shelters
were asphyxiated, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
And since none ever were in any bomb shelter in Britain,
Britain?
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Why move the goalposts
No goal posts were ever moved, that is what
I originally referred to because we know that
no one was ever asphyxiated in a bomb shelter
in Britain and that proves you don’t have a
fucking clue, as always.
You didn't but shit eh you're wrong
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
your stupid line about anyone running out of oxygen or
being asphyxiated by an excess of CO2 in a bomb shelter
has always been just another mindlessly silly pig ignorant
claim by a fool that doesn’t have a fucking clue, as always.
Do what you like. If you want to stay in a bush-fire bunker so be it
I don’t, no need to. I don’t live in the bush, fuckwit.
That is obvious but your complete lack of knowledge about bush-fires.
Not to forget WW2, climate change, politics, human relationships,
science, how to be logical etc.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 05:12:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Not when the bushfire doesn’t burn over the house
bunker for
long enough to produce enough CO2 in the bunker to
matter.
Pray for a quick fire as you asphyxiate
Don’t need one. No bushfire lasts long enough
for the occupants of the bunker house to use
up all the oxygen in the bunker house, fuckwit.
Totally dependent on the number of people and the size of
the bunker.
In reality it will never happen. It never did with
WW2 bomb shelters and they were in their with
a hell of a lot more people than anyone ever has
in a house bunker in a bushfire in this country,
It certainly did, people died of asphyxiation in bomb
shelters particularly during the 1000 bomber fire raids as
the fires depleted the oxygen.
BULLSHIT.
You really are fact adverse
You wouldn’t know a real fact if it bit you on your lard arse.
There were very few public air raid shelters. The largest,
beneath
the main railway station, was housing 6,000 refugees.[79]
As a
result, most people took shelter in their cellars,
No mention of anyone suffocating in the few public air raid
shelters in
Dresden that night. Hardly surprising given that there were so
few of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#On_the_ground
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were
augmented by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames
quickly combined to form a raging terror storm that consumed
more than 12 square miles and burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated
roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and bomb
shelters
Pity there were fuck all PUBLIC bomb shelters,
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
People were asphyxiated in bomb shelters both in Dresden and Hamburg.
No they were not.
They were as my cites showed.
No cite of yours said anything like that.
Read it and weep
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented by
incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined to
form a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square miles and
burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they
huddled in basements and bomb shelters
Doesn’t say that anyone was asphyxiated in any bomb shelter, fuckwit.
"asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and bomb
shelters "
Doesn’t say in the full form that any in bomb shelters
were asphyxiated, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
And since none ever were in any bomb shelter in Britain,
Britain?
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Why move the goalposts
No goal posts were ever moved, that is what
I originally referred to because we know that
no one was ever asphyxiated in a bomb shelter
in Britain and that proves you don’t have a
fucking clue, as always.
You didn't but shit eh you're wrong
Then you wont have any difficulty posting a link
to those that were asphyxiated in bomb shelter
in britain who just ran out of oxygen or an excess
of CO2. You can't because it never happened.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
your stupid line about anyone running out of oxygen or
being asphyxiated by an excess of CO2 in a bomb shelter
has always been just another mindlessly silly pig ignorant
claim by a fool that doesn’t have a fucking clue, as always.
Do what you like. If you want to stay in a bush-fire bunker so be it
I don’t, no need to. I don’t live in the bush, fuckwit.
<reams of your ad hom shit that you always end up
with when you have got done like a fucking dinner,
as you always are, flushed where it belongs>
Dechucka
2020-01-28 05:27:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Not when the bushfire doesn’t burn over the house
bunker for
long enough to produce enough CO2 in the bunker to
matter.
Pray for a quick fire as you asphyxiate
Don’t need one. No bushfire lasts long enough
for the occupants of the bunker house to use
up all the oxygen in the bunker house, fuckwit.
Totally dependent on the number of people and the size
of the bunker.
In reality it will never happen. It never did with
WW2 bomb shelters and they were in their with
a hell of a lot more people than anyone ever has
in a house bunker in a bushfire in this country,
It certainly did, people died of asphyxiation in bomb
shelters particularly during the 1000 bomber fire raids
as the fires depleted the oxygen.
BULLSHIT.
You really are fact adverse
You wouldn’t know a real fact if it bit you on your lard arse.
    There were very few public air raid shelters. The
largest, beneath
    the main railway station, was housing 6,000
refugees.[79] As a
    result, most people took shelter in  their cellars,
No mention of anyone suffocating in the few public air raid
shelters in
Dresden that night. Hardly surprising given that there were
so few of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#On_the_ground
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were
augmented by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames
quickly combined to form a raging terror storm that consumed
more than 12 square miles and burned, blew apart, or
asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in
basements and bomb shelters
Pity there were fuck all PUBLIC bomb shelters,
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
People were asphyxiated in bomb shelters both in Dresden and Hamburg.
No they were not.
They were as my cites showed.
No cite of yours said anything like that.
Read it and weep
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented
by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined
to form a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square
miles and burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people
as they huddled in basements and bomb shelters
Doesn’t say that anyone was asphyxiated in any bomb shelter, fuckwit.
"asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and
bomb shelters "
Doesn’t say in the full form that any in bomb shelters
were asphyxiated, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
And since none ever were in any bomb shelter in Britain,
Britain?
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Why move the goalposts
No goal posts were ever moved, that is what
I originally referred to because we know that
no one was ever asphyxiated in a bomb shelter
in Britain and that proves you don’t have a
fucking clue, as always.
You didn't but shit eh you're wrong
Then you wont have any difficulty posting a link
to those that were asphyxiated in bomb shelter
in britain who just ran out of oxygen or an excess
of CO2. You can't because it never happened.
Why Britain? Why move the goalposts? Do you think Germans asphyxiate
differently to poms?
news18
2020-01-28 05:39:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Why Britain? Why move the goalposts? Do you think Germans asphyxiate
differently to poms?
It is those spiky things on their helemts that makes the difference.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 08:08:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
snip
Not when the bushfire doesn’t burn over the house
bunker for
long enough to produce enough CO2 in the bunker to
matter.
Pray for a quick fire as you asphyxiate
Don’t need one. No bushfire lasts long enough
for the occupants of the bunker house to use
up all the oxygen in the bunker house, fuckwit.
Totally dependent on the number of people and the size
of the bunker.
In reality it will never happen. It never did with
WW2 bomb shelters and they were in their with
a hell of a lot more people than anyone ever has
in a house bunker in a bushfire in this country,
It certainly did, people died of asphyxiation in bomb
shelters particularly during the 1000 bomber fire raids as
the fires depleted the oxygen.
BULLSHIT.
You really are fact adverse
You wouldn’t know a real fact if it bit you on your lard arse.
There were very few public air raid shelters. The
largest, beneath
the main railway station, was housing 6,000 refugees.[79]
As a
result, most people took shelter in their cellars,
No mention of anyone suffocating in the few public air raid
shelters in
Dresden that night. Hardly surprising given that there were
so few of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#On_the_ground
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were
augmented by incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames
quickly combined to form a raging terror storm that consumed
more than 12 square miles and burned, blew apart, or
asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements
and bomb shelters
Pity there were fuck all PUBLIC bomb shelters,
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
People were asphyxiated in bomb shelters both in Dresden and Hamburg.
No they were not.
They were as my cites showed.
No cite of yours said anything like that.
Read it and weep
Fires started by the first wave of British bombers were augmented by
incendiaries dropped by the second. The flames quickly combined to
form a raging terror storm that consumed more than 12 square miles
and burned, blew apart, or asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they
huddled in basements and bomb shelters
Doesn’t say that anyone was asphyxiated in any bomb shelter, fuckwit.
"asphyxiated roughly 25,000 people as they huddled in basements and
bomb shelters "
Doesn’t say in the full form that any in bomb shelters
were asphyxiated, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
And since none ever were in any bomb shelter in Britain,
Britain?
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Why move the goalposts
No goal posts were ever moved, that is what
I originally referred to because we know that
no one was ever asphyxiated in a bomb shelter
in Britain and that proves you don’t have a
fucking clue, as always.
You didn't but shit eh you're wrong
Then you wont have any difficulty posting a link
to those that were asphyxiated in bomb shelter
in britain who just ran out of oxygen or an excess
of CO2. You can't because it never happened.
Why Britain?
Because if asphyxiation in a bomb shelter was a real
problem, it would have been seen there, fuckwit.
Fran
2020-01-28 01:04:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
your stupid line about anyone running out of oxygen or
being asphyxiated by an excess of CO2 in a bomb shelter
has always been just another mindlessly silly pig ignorant
claim by a fool that doesn’t have a fucking clue, as always.
Do what you like. If you want to stay in a bush-fire bunker so be it
:-)) Could it be arranged? He's been stealing too much oxygen for years.
Dechucka
2020-01-27 21:16:24 UTC
Permalink
Because normal flu doesn’t kill at anything like that rate,
It kills at between 0.1% and 20% depending on the strain you
ignoramus
20% isnt anything even remotely like a normal flu.
What is the normal flu
The sort that we get ever single fucking year, fuckwit.
With a mortality between 0.1 and 20 % in the unvaccinated
BULLSHIT with anything like 20%
Sorry I gave you the scientific data
Not with normal flu
Normal flu? Normal like 1919?


you didn’t, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
artist.
Rod Speed
2020-01-27 23:13:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Because normal flu doesn’t kill at anything like that rate,
It kills at between 0.1% and 20% depending on the strain you
ignoramus
20% isnt anything even remotely like a normal flu.
What is the normal flu
The sort that we get ever single fucking year, fuckwit.
With a mortality between 0.1 and 20 % in the unvaccinated
BULLSHIT with anything like 20%
Sorry I gave you the scientific data
Not with normal flu
Or even with SARS. SARS wasn’t even 10% you pathetic excuse for a bullshit
artist.
Post by Dechucka
Normal flu? Normal like 1919?
That clearly wasn’t normal flu, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
you didn’t, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 02:56:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Because normal flu doesn’t kill at anything like that rate,
It kills at between 0.1% and 20% depending on the strain you
ignoramus
20% isnt anything even remotely like a normal flu.
What is the normal flu
The sort that we get ever single fucking year, fuckwit.
With a mortality between 0.1 and 20 % in the unvaccinated
BULLSHIT with anything like 20%
Sorry I gave you the scientific data
Not with normal flu
Or even with SARS. SARS wasn’t even 10% you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
SARS is not caused by the influenza virus
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Normal flu? Normal like 1919?
That clearly wasn’t normal flu, fuckwit.
Oh so your def'n of normal is whatever you want it to mean
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
you didn’t, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 05:23:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Because normal flu doesn’t kill at anything like that rate,
It kills at between 0.1% and 20% depending on the strain you
ignoramus
20% isnt anything even remotely like a normal flu.
What is the normal flu
The sort that we get ever single fucking year, fuckwit.
With a mortality between 0.1 and 20 % in the unvaccinated
BULLSHIT with anything like 20%
Sorry I gave you the scientific data
Not with normal flu
Or even with SARS. SARS wasn’t even 10% you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
SARS is not caused by the influenza virus
It’s a coronavirus you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Normal flu? Normal like 1919?
That clearly wasn’t normal flu, fuckwit.
Oh so your def'n of normal is whatever you want it to mean
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

By fat the worst flu the world has ever seen cant be
normal flu, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
you didn’t, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 05:33:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Because normal flu doesn’t kill at anything like that rate,
It kills at between 0.1% and 20% depending on the strain you
ignoramus
20% isnt anything even remotely like a normal flu.
What is the normal flu
The sort that we get ever single fucking year, fuckwit.
With a mortality between 0.1 and 20 % in the unvaccinated
BULLSHIT with anything like 20%
Sorry I gave you the scientific data
Not with normal flu
Or even with SARS. SARS wasn’t even 10% you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
SARS is not caused by the influenza virus
It’s a coronavirus
Exactly so why comparing it to the influenza virus, you're very confused

you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Normal flu? Normal like 1919?
That clearly wasn’t normal flu, fuckwit.
Oh so your def'n of normal is whatever you want it to mean
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
By fat
Why are you bring obesity into it now?


the worst flu the world has ever seen cant be
Post by Rod Speed
normal flu, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
you didn’t, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
Dechucka
2020-01-28 05:33:45 UTC
Permalink
snip
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
By fat
Why are you bring obesity into it now?
sorry 'bringing'
Rod Speed
2020-01-28 08:19:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Because normal flu doesn’t kill at anything like that rate,
It kills at between 0.1% and 20% depending on the strain you
ignoramus
20% isnt anything even remotely like a normal flu.
What is the normal flu
The sort that we get ever single fucking year, fuckwit.
With a mortality between 0.1 and 20 % in the unvaccinated
BULLSHIT with anything like 20%
Sorry I gave you the scientific data
Not with normal flu
Or even with SARS. SARS wasn’t even 10% you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist.
SARS is not caused by the influenza virus
It’s a coronavirus
Exactly so why comparing it to the influenza virus,
I didnt, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Normal flu? Normal like 1919?
That clearly wasn’t normal flu, fuckwit.
Oh so your def'n of normal is whatever you want it to mean
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
By far the worst flu the world has ever seen cant be
normal flu, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
you didn’t, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist.
news18
2020-01-27 22:05:49 UTC
Permalink
Unfortunately, this sort of event is always going to happen and
adults should take them into consideration when they make
decisions.you educate yourself about the trade ffs and make a
decision and take the consequences. That is what real adults do.
Real adults know that a meteor could drop out of the sky at any minute
Most adults don't have any clue as to that and only think in movie
plots and the usualy "phew another one missed us on the news"
However, your extreme desperation is noted.
OK, if you think my mentioning a meteor is desperation, then I'll use
your own history as an example. As a real adult, you obviously must
have considered the possibility that when you were told to go to
hospital for observation and you picked up three infections at the
hospital within 24 hours.
No, I did not consider thast a reasonable occurrence in a properly
operating hospital. Given what I've seen.read.know of hospitals and
medical stuff over the decades, I'm not totally surprised it happend.
normal and re Just because you got those infections does not
make you a selfish arsehole.
It does, I should have shared them around so everyone else had a private
room.
Nor does hail damage to thousands of cars
make the owners of those cars selfish arseholes when there was no
forecast of it happening.
Actually it does. Firstly they should know(they are adults) what driving
a car does to the environment and the opportunity costs they are enjoying
to do so. Secondly they should stop demanding increasing subsidies from
everyone else. Lastly, if you own a car and never expect it to get
damage, then you're an idiot. As a farming perosn, you should fully
understand the danger of massive monocultures, which is effectively what
those car parks are.
If you do not work for
change, then you're part of the problem. It won't change until you
stary to make changes. End of story.
The problem I see is NRMA not offering a service if it expects people to
wait till April for an assessment of damage.
Normally, that may be a reasonable complaint, but given the
circumstances, it is entirely unreasonable compaint.
I've got no idea what
problem you think you are trying to change when you accuse people of
being selfish arseholes when they've suffered from hail damage to their
cars.
Step back and look around you.
Fran
2020-01-28 01:02:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Unfortunately, this sort of event is always going to happen and
adults should take them into consideration when they make
decisions.you educate yourself about the trade ffs and make a
decision and take the consequences. That is what real adults do.
Real adults know that a meteor could drop out of the sky at any minute
Most adults don't have any clue as to that and only think in movie
plots and the usualy "phew another one missed us on the news"
However, your extreme desperation is noted.
OK, if you think my mentioning a meteor is desperation, then I'll use
your own history as an example. As a real adult, you obviously must
have considered the possibility that when you were told to go to
hospital for observation and you picked up three infections at the
hospital within 24 hours.
No, I did not consider thast a reasonable occurrence in a properly
operating hospital. Given what I've seen.read.know of hospitals and
medical stuff over the decades, I'm not totally surprised it happend.
:-)) But as a real adult, you should have. The reason why you should
have is that real adults know that shit happens.
Post by news18
normal and re Just because you got those infections does not
make you a selfish arsehole.
It does, I should have shared them around so everyone else had a private
room.
No sharing them round is what a selfish arsehole would do - trolls do
the same thing.
Post by news18
Nor does hail damage to thousands of cars
make the owners of those cars selfish arseholes when there was no
forecast of it happening.
Actually it does. Firstly they should know(they are adults) what driving
a car does to the environment and the opportunity costs they are enjoying
to do so. Secondly they should stop demanding increasing subsidies from
everyone else. Lastly, if you own a car and never expect it to get
damage, then you're an idiot.
I'm not going to waste my time responding to such a stupid comment.

As a farming perosn, you should fully
Post by news18
understand the danger of massive monocultures, which is effectively what
those car parks are.
FFS. Another stupid comment. Public transport in Canberra is appalling
and for those who have t get into Canberra to work, almost non existent.
I prefer people to go to work to get paid and to use a car to get there
if needed and not to rely on the dole. You comment is silly.
Post by news18
If you do not work for
change, then you're part of the problem. It won't change until you
stary to make changes. End of story.
The problem I see is NRMA not offering a service if it expects people to
wait till April for an assessment of damage.
Normally, that may be a reasonable complaint, but given the
circumstances, it is entirely unreasonable compaint.
Bullshit. Just because you got your knickers in a knot about an Alpha
Romeo driver who you thought was a selfish arsehole, you should not
apply your gross generalisation and your prejudice to the thousands of
others who had their cars damaged. The damage occurred to vehicles
beloging to tradies, to car yards and average family members who despite
earning an income probably do not have a lot of spare cash to go out and
buy a new functioning car. The cars for all the executives did not get
damaged as they all get to park undercover. You are being totally
unfair in applying your gross generalisation about an Alpha Romeo driver
to these average (not rich) Australians who had their cars damaged by an
act of God.
Post by news18
I've got no idea what
problem you think you are trying to change when you accuse people of
being selfish arseholes when they've suffered from hail damage to their
cars.
Step back and look around you.
I'm not paranoid.
news18
2020-01-28 02:19:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
As a farming perosn, you should fully
Post by news18
understand the danger of massive monocultures, which is effectively
what those car parks are.
FFS. Another stupid comment.
Obviously beyond your understanding.

Public transport in Canberra is appalling
Post by news18
and for those who have t get into Canberra to work, almost non existent.
I prefer people to go to work to get paid and to use a car to get there
if needed and not to rely on the dole. You comment is silly.
Nope. YMMV, but I've only ever worked FT at places with bicycle or public
transport. When I was working, I was continually offered jobs on the
North Shore of Sydney. Some met my accessible by public transport
criterion, but the extra money wasn't worth the extra time it was going
to consume in commuting. I'd never consider driving a motor vehicle back
and forth each day.
Post by news18
Post by news18
If you do not work for change, then you're part of the problem. It
won't change until you stary to make changes. End of story.
The problem I see is NRMA not offering a service if it expects people
to wait till April for an assessment of damage.
Normally, that may be a reasonable complaint, but given the
circumstances, it is entirely unreasonable compaint.
Bullshit. Just because you got your knickers in a knot about an Alpha
Romeo driver who you thought was a selfish arsehole, you should not
apply your gross generalisation and your prejudice to the thousands of
others who had their cars damaged. The damage occurred to vehicles
beloging to tradies, to car yards and average family members who despite
earning an income probably do not have a lot of spare cash to go out and
buy a new functioning car.
That is part of the point I'm making; they chose that "easy life style"
whilst ignoring the possible consequences. Hail storm damage to motor
vehicles is fairly common. The only thing noticeable is the numbers at
the one time.
Post by news18
The cars for all the executives did not get
damaged as they all get to park undercover. You are being totally
unfair in applying your gross generalisation about an Alpha Romeo driver
to these average (not rich) Australians who had their cars damaged by an
act of God.
Lol, he was the one doing the poor me performance to the paper.
Post by news18
Post by news18
I've got no idea what problem you think you are trying to change when
you accuse people of being selfish arseholes when they've suffered
from hail damage to their cars.
Step back and look around you.
I'm not paranoid.
Open your understandingto the wider picture. Look at all the factors that
lead up to making this happen.
Fran
2020-01-29 02:04:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Post by news18
As a farming perosn, you should fully
Post by news18
understand the danger of massive monocultures, which is effectively
what those car parks are.
FFS. Another stupid comment.
Obviously beyond your understanding.
Public transport in Canberra is appalling
Post by news18
and for those who have t get into Canberra to work, almost non existent.
I prefer people to go to work to get paid and to use a car to get there
if needed and not to rely on the dole. You comment is silly.
Nope.
So do tell about how wonderful Canberras public transport is....

YMMV, but I've only ever worked FT at places with bicycle or public
Post by news18
transport. When I was working, I was continually offered jobs on the
North Shore of Sydney. Some met my accessible by public transport
criterion, but the extra money wasn't worth the extra time it was going
to consume in commuting. I'd never consider driving a motor vehicle back
and forth each day.
So?
Post by news18
Post by news18
Post by news18
If you do not work for change, then you're part of the problem. It
won't change until you stary to make changes. End of story.
The problem I see is NRMA not offering a service if it expects people
to wait till April for an assessment of damage.
Normally, that may be a reasonable complaint, but given the
circumstances, it is entirely unreasonable compaint.
Bullshit. Just because you got your knickers in a knot about an Alpha
Romeo driver who you thought was a selfish arsehole, you should not
apply your gross generalisation and your prejudice to the thousands of
others who had their cars damaged. The damage occurred to vehicles
beloging to tradies, to car yards and average family members who despite
earning an income probably do not have a lot of spare cash to go out and
buy a new functioning car.
That is part of the point I'm making; they chose that "easy life style"
whilst ignoring the possible consequences. Hail storm damage to motor
vehicles is fairly common. The only thing noticeable is the numbers at
the one time.
Snort. "Selfish arseholes." "Easy life styles" Says it all.
Post by news18
Post by news18
The cars for all the executives did not get
damaged as they all get to park undercover. You are being totally
unfair in applying your gross generalisation about an Alpha Romeo driver
to these average (not rich) Australians who had their cars damaged by an
act of God.
Lol, he was the one doing the poor me performance to the paper.
So you apply your prejudice against him to every one. Got it.
news18
2020-01-29 07:25:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
So do tell about how wonderful Canberras public transport is....
I wouldn't know, I rode my bicycle. Never had any trouble getting around.
Post by Fran
Post by news18
Lol, he was the one doing the poor me performance to the paper.
So you apply your prejudice against him to every one.
Yep, everyone who doesn't ride a bicycle. Get it?
Ned Latham
2020-01-29 20:28:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Post by Fran
So do tell about how wonderful Canberras public transport is....
I wouldn't know, I rode my bicycle. Never had any trouble getting around.
I had work in Bugenbore for a couple of years, How often did you
ride your bicycle to Bungendore?
jonz
2020-01-27 23:00:23 UTC
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Petz
news18
Petz
Read your history not the fakenews the media presents to you.
No concentration camp in Germany was used as a extermination camp.
By the end of WWII food was very scarce so most prisoners were
starving Germanys extermination camps were not in Germany.
A little factoid in yet another desperate attempt to divert from the
crap you've already posted.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey, you dumb mutt,(and other old farts) why do you keep dragging this
group back into the past.......Just a bunch of senile old haters that
are *way* past their use-by date!. FOAD.
As the is talking about the past.
Relevance deprevation syndrome?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Try remedial writing, might work!.
news18
2020-01-27 23:03:33 UTC
Permalink
Petz
news18
Petz
Read your history not the fakenews the media presents to you.
No concentration camp in Germany was used as a extermination camp.
By the end of WWII food was very scarce so most prisoners were
starving Germanys extermination camps were not in Germany.
A little factoid in yet another desperate attempt to divert from
the crap you've already posted.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey, you dumb mutt,(and other old farts) why do you keep dragging
this group back into the past.......Just a bunch of senile old
haters that are *way* past their use-by date!. FOAD.
As the is talking about the past.
Relevance deprevation syndrome?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Try remedial writing, might work!.
Try thinking.
jonz
2020-01-27 23:34:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Petz
news18
Petz
Read your history not the fakenews the media presents to you.
No concentration camp in Germany was used as a extermination camp.
By the end of WWII food was very scarce so most prisoners were
starving Germanys extermination camps were not in Germany.
A little factoid in yet another desperate attempt to divert from
the crap you've already posted.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey, you dumb mutt,(and other old farts) why do you keep dragging
this group back into the past.......Just a bunch of senile old
haters that are *way* past their use-by date!. FOAD.
As the is talking about the past.
Relevance deprevation syndrome?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Try remedial writing, might work!.
Try thinking.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yer good for a wee chuckle, if nothing else. (*Definitely* nothing else.)
Ördög
2020-01-28 00:52:37 UTC
Permalink
Little jonzie howard troll
news18
Little jonzie howard troll
Ördög
Petz
news18
Petz
Read your history not the fakenews the media presents to you.
No concentration camp in Germany was used as a extermination camp.
By the end of WWII food was very scarce so most prisoners were
starving Germanys extermination camps were not in Germany.
A little factoid in yet another desperate attempt to divert from
the crap you've already posted.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey, you dumb mutt,(and other old farts) why do you keep dragging
this group back into the past.......Just a bunch of senile old
haters that are *way* past their use-by date!. FOAD.
As the is talking about the past.
Relevance deprevation syndrome?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Try remedial writing, might work!.
Try thinking.
Little Jonzie can't do that. After all these years of brain dead
extremist trolling he is not going to change his cultivated bad habits.

Why don't you just plonk that bastard.
Not seeing him in your reader won't degrade your Usenet enjoyment one
little bit.

Jonzie specially loves his one liner interjections which have zero
value beyond abusing his opponents in the thread.
--
Ördög, without any apologies !!!
jonz
2020-01-28 05:30:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
Little jonzie howard troll
news18
Little jonzie howard troll
Ördög
Petz
news18
Petz
Read your history not the fakenews the media presents to you.
No concentration camp in Germany was used as a extermination camp.
By the end of WWII food was very scarce so most prisoners were
starving Germanys extermination camps were not in Germany.
A little factoid in yet another desperate attempt to divert from
the crap you've already posted.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey, you dumb mutt,(and other old farts) why do you keep dragging
this group back into the past.......Just a bunch of senile old
haters that are *way* past their use-by date!. FOAD.
As the is talking about the past.
Relevance deprevation syndrome?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Try remedial writing, might work!.
Try thinking.
Little Jonzie can't do that. After all these years of brain dead
extremist trolling he is not going to change his cultivated bad habits.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Extremist trolling? moi?.... Another *mirror moment* for you muttley.
Post by Ördög
Why don't you just plonk that bastard.
Not seeing him in your reader won't degrade your Usenet enjoyment one
little bit.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You tell 'em poochie. ;)
Post by Ördög
Jonzie specially loves his one liner interjections which have zero
value beyond abusing his opponents in the thread.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When deserved woofer.. caio chuckles. :))
Post by Ördög
--
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FMurtz
2020-02-02 04:52:08 UTC
Permalink
snip
And has by far the most expensive electricity
in the EU because they are that stupid.
by far?
Yep,
really you'll have the figures to post won't you.
Find the for yourself.
I did and you're wrong, they do not by far the most expensive
electricity in the EU
Hey it is just like littering except on a larger scale.
Nothing like in fact.
Exactly the same
Bullshit it is when there has been no measurable effect
on the world's climate since the industrial revolution.
There has been a measurable effect.
Bullshit there has.
You said in this thread that there had been
Like hell I did SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
There has been some measurable effect of the
worst of the volcanos but not with those gases.,
Oh now your saying there has been a measurable effect,
FROM THAT NATURAL EFFECT. And the worst of
that was before the industrial revolution, fuckwit.
Ok there has been an effect,
NOT SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, fuckwit.
Really it suddenly stopped did it ;-)?
Here we go again, they are, they are not, they are, they are not,But no
proof from either.
Rod Speed
2020-02-02 05:21:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by FMurtz
snip
And has by far the most expensive electricity
in the EU because they are that stupid.
by far?
Yep,
really you'll have the figures to post won't you.
Find the for yourself.
I did and you're wrong, they do not by far the most expensive electricity
in the EU
Hey it is just like littering except on a larger scale.
Nothing like in fact.
Exactly the same
Bullshit it is when there has been no measurable effect
on the world's climate since the industrial revolution.
There has been a measurable effect.
Bullshit there has.
You said in this thread that there had been
Like hell I did SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
There has been some measurable effect of the
worst of the volcanos but not with those gases.,
Oh now your saying there has been a measurable effect,
FROM THAT NATURAL EFFECT. And the worst of
that was before the industrial revolution, fuckwit.
Ok there has been an effect,
NOT SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, fuckwit.
Really it suddenly stopped did it ;-)?
Here we go again, they are, they are not, they are, they are not,But no
proof from either.
We never got any proof from you with your stupid
claim about why speed limits were changed either.
Fran
2020-02-02 08:18:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by FMurtz
snip
And has by far the most expensive electricity
in the EU because they are that stupid.
by far?
Yep,
really you'll have the figures to post won't you.
Find the for yourself.
I did and you're wrong, they do not by far the most expensive
electricity in the EU
Hey it is just like littering except on a larger scale.
Nothing like in fact.
Exactly the same
Bullshit it is when there has been no measurable effect
on the world's climate since the industrial revolution.
There has been a measurable effect.
Bullshit there has.
You said in this thread that there had been
Like hell I did SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
There has been some measurable effect of the
worst of the volcanos but not with those gases.,
Oh now your saying there has been a measurable effect,
FROM THAT NATURAL EFFECT. And the worst of
that was before the industrial revolution, fuckwit.
Ok there has been an effect,
NOT SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, fuckwit.
Really it suddenly stopped did it ;-)?
Here we go again, they are, they are not, they are, they are not,But no
proof from either.
For heavens sake Murtz! Can't you use either google or your own brain?
If Rod Spud says anything, it's most likely to be wrong as he seems to
either be too stupid or too lazy to check before making statements. If
dechucka says something, he'll have checked it out.

Now, just as a personal favour to you, I did some googling for you.

1. Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) about Germany having the most expensive
electricity (Denmark does but Germany is the next most expensive)
https://paylesspower.com/blog/european-cost-of-electricity-per-kwh-by-country/

2. Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) about Germnay not closing coal mines. 84
German coal mines are beign shut.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/climate/germany-coal-climate-change.html
https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germany-coal-power-20190126-story.html

3. Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) on volcanoes emitting more GHG and
contributing to climate change than than humans
https://skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GlobalWarming/page4.php
petzl
2020-02-02 08:33:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Post by FMurtz
snip
And has by far the most expensive electricity
in the EU because they are that stupid.
by far?
Yep,
really you'll have the figures to post won't you.
Find the for yourself.
I did and you're wrong, they do not by far the most expensive
electricity in the EU
Hey it is just like littering except on a larger scale.
Nothing like in fact.
Exactly the same
Bullshit it is when there has been no measurable effect
on the world's climate since the industrial revolution.
There has been a measurable effect.
Bullshit there has.
You said in this thread that there had been
Like hell I did SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
There has been some measurable effect of the
worst of the volcanos but not with those gases.,
Oh now your saying there has been a measurable effect,
FROM THAT NATURAL EFFECT. And the worst of
that was before the industrial revolution, fuckwit.
Ok there has been an effect,
NOT SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, fuckwit.
Really it suddenly stopped did it ;-)?
Here we go again, they are, they are not, they are, they are not,But no
proof from either.
For heavens sake Murtz! Can't you use either google or your own brain?
If Rod Spud says anything, it's most likely to be wrong as he seems to
either be too stupid or too lazy to check before making statements. If
dechucka says something, he'll have checked it out.
Now, just as a personal favour to you, I did some googling for you.
1. Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) about Germany having the most expensive
electricity (Denmark does but Germany is the next most expensive)
https://paylesspower.com/blog/european-cost-of-electricity-per-kwh-by-country/
2. Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) about Germnay not closing coal mines. 84
German coal mines are beign shut.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/climate/germany-coal-climate-change.html
https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germany-coal-power-20190126-story.html
3. Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) on volcanoes emitting more GHG and
contributing to climate change than than humans
https://skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GlobalWarming/page4.php
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
https://www.riteon.org.au/14000-abandoned-wind-turbines-litter-the-united-states/?fbclid=IwAR3GjuBVDKZPGE1YP-7inm4Z8D4UHc14WcsBjMApuhs_ksdq7oKxouFPFdA
https://is.gd/PXRE9w
--
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They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Ördög
2020-02-02 08:52:09 UTC
Permalink
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Don't you worry, the Germans will figure it out, specially because
climate change denialism is not such a out of control epidemic there as
it is in the US and in OZ.
Post by petzl
abandoned-wind-turbines-litter-the-united-states
How does that effect Germany, Petz dear?
After all the Germans are on a saner continent free of climate change
denialist freaks like you.

--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Petzl
2020-02-02 09:01:18 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 08:52:09 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Don't you worry, the Germans will figure it out, specially because
climate change denialism is not such a out of control epidemic there as
it is in the US and in OZ.
They are just shutting down *brown coal mines* and buying clean coal
from Australia
Post by Ördög
Post by petzl
abandoned-wind-turbines-litter-the-united-states
How does that effect Germany, Petz dear?
After all the Germans are on a saner continent free of climate change
denialist freaks like you.
sucker
https://gab.com/RiteOn
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Ördög
2020-02-02 09:28:17 UTC
Permalink
Petz
Post by Petzl
Ördög
Post by Ördög
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Don't you worry, the Germans will figure it out, specially because
climate change denialism is not such a out of control epidemic there as
it is in the US and in OZ.
They are just shutting down *brown coal mines*
*How Germany closed its coal industry without sacking a single miner*
<https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-germany-closed-its-
coal-industry-without-sacking-a-single-miner-20190711-p526ez.html>
Post by Petzl
and buying clean coal from Australia
The hell they do!
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Post by petzl
abandoned-wind-turbines-litter-the-united-states
How does that effect Germany, Petz dear?
After all the Germans are on a saner continent free of climate change
denialist freaks like you.
https://gab.com/RiteOn
LOL!

"Conceived 2016 to encourage the silent majority to find a voice.
Based on conservative ideals & common-sense.
We receive NO money from political parties or overseas organizations.
Rite-ON! is an independent, third-party disclosure entity.
Authorised by R. Hutchins - Riton P/L Caloundra Qld"

YAY, another Queenslander hard right propaganda shit website.
Post by Petzl
sucker
That you are, Petz dear.

You dig up alt-right trash from all over the web hoping to convert sane
people? How is that working out for you? Any recent converts????

--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
jonz
2020-02-02 09:56:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
Petz
Post by Petzl
Ördög
Post by Ördög
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Don't you worry, the Germans will figure it out, specially because
climate change denialism is not such a out of control epidemic there as
it is in the US and in OZ.
They are just shutting down *brown coal mines*
*How Germany closed its coal industry without sacking a single miner*
<https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-germany-closed-its-
coal-industry-without-sacking-a-single-miner-20190711-p526ez.html>
Post by Petzl
and buying clean coal from Australia
The hell they do!
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Post by petzl
abandoned-wind-turbines-litter-the-united-states
How does that effect Germany, Petz dear?
After all the Germans are on a saner continent free of climate change
denialist freaks like you.
https://gab.com/RiteOn
LOL!
"Conceived 2016 to encourage the silent majority to find a voice.
Based on conservative ideals & common-sense.
We receive NO money from political parties or overseas organizations.
Rite-ON! is an independent, third-party disclosure entity.
Authorised by R. Hutchins - Riton P/L Caloundra Qld"
YAY, another Queenslander hard right propaganda shit website.
Post by Petzl
sucker
That you are, Petz dear.
You dig up alt-right trash from all over the web hoping to convert sane
people? How is that working out for you? Any recent converts????
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sane ppl??? WTF would they (us) have in common with you?..... FOAD!
Post by Ördög
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They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Petzl
2020-02-02 10:41:16 UTC
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On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Petz
Post by Petzl
Ördög
Post by Ördög
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Don't you worry, the Germans will figure it out, specially because
climate change denialism is not such a out of control epidemic there as
it is in the US and in OZ.
They are just shutting down *brown coal mines*
*How Germany closed its coal industry without sacking a single miner*
<https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-germany-closed-its-
coal-industry-without-sacking-a-single-miner-20190711-p526ez.html>
Post by Petzl
and buying clean coal from Australia
The hell they do!
From your site
"Now Germany is beginning the process of ending its brown coal
industry "

Brown coal It is considered the lowest rank of coal due to its
relatively low heat content. It has a carbon content around 60–70
percent.

Australian export coal or Black coals are ranked higher because they
are harder, have more carbon, less ash and less moisture and thus a
higher energy content.

Germany still generates 42% of it's electricity from coal power
stations.
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
Post by Ördög
Post by petzl
abandoned-wind-turbines-litter-the-united-states
How does that effect Germany, Petz dear?
After all the Germans are on a saner continent free of climate change
denialist freaks like you.
https://gab.com/RiteOn
LOL!
"Conceived 2016 to encourage the silent majority to find a voice.
Based on conservative ideals & common-sense.
We receive NO money from political parties or overseas organizations.
Rite-ON! is an independent, third-party disclosure entity.
Authorised by R. Hutchins - Riton P/L Caloundra Qld"
YAY, another Queenslander hard right propaganda shit website.
Al Gore and George Soros created the "Climate Change religion" to take
in trillions of dollars a year from stupid governments taxpayers

--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Ördög
2020-02-02 11:09:38 UTC
Permalink
Petz
Ördög
Post by Ördög
Post by Petzl
and buying clean coal from Australia
The hell they do!
From your site "Now Germany is beginning the process of ending its brown
coal industry "
Yes, they do. Live with it!
Brown coal It is considered the lowest rank of coal due to its
relatively low heat content....
And your point is what?
Australian export coal or Black coals are ranked higher because they are
harder, have more carbon, less ash and less moisture and thus a higher
energy content.
Yeah? So your point is what.
The Germans won't buy any of it.
However India might, but only Adani's shit quality coal!
Germany still generates 42% of it's electricity from coal power
stations.
And that is why they have an exit plan.
*How Germany closed its coal industry without sacking a single miner*
<https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-germany-closed-its-
coal-industry-without-sacking-a-single-miner-20190711-p526ez.html>

https://gab.com/RiteOn
LOL!

"Conceived 2016 to encourage the silent majority to find a voice.
Based on conservative ideals & common-sense.
We receive NO money from political parties or overseas organizations.
Rite-ON! is an independent, third-party disclosure entity.
Authorised by R. Hutchins - Riton P/L Caloundra Qld"

YAY, another Queenslander hard right propaganda shit website.
Al Gore and George Soros created the "Climate Change religion" to take
You constantly dig up alt-right trash from all over the web hoping to
convert sane people? How is that working out for you? Any recent
converts????
Give up your utterly fucked and debunked conspiracy kookery, will you,
Petz dear?
There are no buyers for your shit!
It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed ...
No they didn't. They definitely had nothing to do with exporting Ozi coal
to Germany. Build a bridge and get over it!
:P

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the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in Goggle
Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
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Fran
2020-02-03 01:00:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
Petz
Post by Petzl
Germany still generates 42% of it's electricity from coal power
stations.
And that is why they have an exit plan.
Fuck pretzel's dumb!

How many times does the moron need to be shown the same
cite??????????????????? Why the hell doesn't the moron READ the cites
he's given and he'd stop making such a spectacle of himself.
Post by Ördög
*How Germany closed its coal industry without sacking a single miner*
<https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-germany-closed-its-
coal-industry-without-sacking-a-single-miner-20190711-p526ez.html>
news18
2020-02-02 11:07:38 UTC
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Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Petzl
2020-02-02 11:39:51 UTC
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Post by news18
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Ördög
2020-02-02 21:04:36 UTC
Permalink
Petz
news18
Post by news18
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
True.
But it won't be any from OZ. Excellent. Get fucked LNP/ON and dumb voters
like you, Petz dear!!!

*Germany to close all 84 of its coal-fired power plants, will rely
primarily on renewable energy*
<https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germany-coal-power-20190126-
story.html>

*Coal in Germany*
<https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/coal-germany>

Never doubt that Germany will move faster than OZ to renewable clean
energy in that determined Germanic methodical way, something hard right
conservative colonial Anglo-Celts incapable of doing purely on fanatical
ideological grounds. And mind you, German people ARE still actually very
conservative in nature.

--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Petzl
2020-02-02 21:28:44 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 21:04:36 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Petz
news18
Post by news18
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
True.
But it won't be any from OZ. Excellent. Get fucked LNP/ON and dumb voters
like you, Petz dear!!!
And your smart?????
Germany buy their coal on a world market pushes the price of
Australian coal up
Post by Ördög
*Germany to close all 84 of its coal-fired power plants, will rely
primarily on renewable energy*
<https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germany-coal-power-20190126-
story.html>
over the next *19 years* so still powered up
Post by Ördög
*Coal in Germany*
<https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/coal-germany>
From your cite
"At the moment Germany is still the biggest producer of brown coal"

And they can't get the "cheap labor" Moslems to dig out the coal deep
underground, so it is considered uneconomic.
Post by Ördög
Never doubt that Germany will move faster than OZ to renewable clean
energy in that determined Germanic methodical way, something hard right
conservative colonial Anglo-Celts incapable of doing purely on fanatical
ideological grounds. And mind you, German people ARE still actually very
conservative in nature.
Germany has become a basket case full of Moslem invaders bringing it
down.

Brexit has become the flickering candle of hope for Europe.

But you keep supporting/believing Al Gore's crooked scam
http://youtu.be/-0Rtystv7dc
Who profits from "climate change"?
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Ördög
2020-02-02 22:31:49 UTC
Permalink
Petz

/snip Petz's delusions/

*A Different Bias*


"Brexit supporters are delighted that we've left the EU and there are no
adverse reactions. Of course, although we are no longer members, we have
not left the EU at all. And this is using Brexit supporters' own
definitions of leaving. In this video, I discuss the importance of
pointing this out to people and explaining how easy it is to demonstrate
that we haven't left yet."


~~~~ ~~~~~
Brexiteer drones like you, Petz dear, are completely ignorant nobodies.

I am waiting with great expectations to see how reality will bite the
Brexiteers!
Let's wait till the shit actually hits the fan.

--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
news18
2020-02-03 05:27:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
Petz
/snip Petz's delusions/
*A Different Bias*
http://youtu.be/h0HFy0yFufM
"Brexit supporters are delighted that we've left the EU and there are no
adverse reactions.
Lol, did they think DOG was going to strike them dead?
Come back at the end of the year as that s when they'll have to really
stop suckking the EU teat.
news18
2020-02-03 05:25:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 21:04:36 +0000 (UTC), Ördög
Post by Ördög
Petz
news18
Post by news18
petz
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
True.
But it won't be any from OZ. Excellent. Get fucked LNP/ON and dumb
voters like you, Petz dear!!!
And your smart?????
Germany buy their coal on a world market pushes the price of Australian
coal up
err, nope, 1) Germany has coal mines and 2) the globl price of coal in
plummetting. Gee and you thought all those banks that would not lend for
new coal mines were greenies.
news18
2020-02-03 05:22:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
Err, this has all been stated before and is nothing new. In fact, I
mentioned it here previously. hint, they won't be buying coal from
Australia.
Petzl
2020-02-03 07:39:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
Err, this has all been stated before and is nothing new. In fact, I
mentioned it here previously. hint, they won't be buying coal from
Australia.
If its clean burning black coal best in the world they either buy from
Australia or they don't and it don't matter the UK will and the price
is a world price
19 years is a long time Merkle will of gone the EU will be no more.
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
news18
2020-02-03 10:47:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
Err, this has all been stated before and is nothing new. In fact, I
mentioned it here previously. hint, they won't be buying coal from
Australia.
If its clean burning black coal best in the world they either buy from
Australia or they don't and it don't matter the UK will and the price is
a world price 19 years is a long time Merkle will of gone the EU will be
no more.
Drunk?
Petzl
2020-02-03 11:09:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have still
have to buy coal.
Err, this has all been stated before and is nothing new. In fact, I
mentioned it here previously. hint, they won't be buying coal from
Australia.
If its clean burning black coal best in the world they either buy from
Australia or they don't and it don't matter the UK will and the price is
a world price 19 years is a long time Merkle will of gone the EU will be
no more.
Drunk?
YOU?
https://ibb.co/0FMvX7b
--
Petzl
Joe Biden's son, zero track record, for jobs in languages
he don't speak thrown out of navy for doing coke,
turned in a rental car with crack pipes in it,
hid from a process server for getting a girl pregnant
to avoid child support.
But five days with dad on Chinese trip was paid US$1.5 billion dollars?

Looks like Obama\ss and Biden will go to jail
https://globalnewsok.com/barack-obama-and-joe-biden-linked-to-missing-5-3-billion-during-obama-administration-2/
https://is.gd/qLQp5M
BARACK OBAMA And JOE BIDEN Linked To MISSING $5.3 BILLION
During Obama Administration
Ördög
2020-02-03 19:58:41 UTC
Permalink
Petz

https://ibb.co/coal.lover.bullshit.propaganda.as.per.usual

Still digging the cyber sewers for hard-right propaganda munition, eh Petz
dear?
Your posted pro coal propaganda is sooooo bloody transparent.

BTW stop spreading Trump lover fake news propaganda too.
Joe Biden's son, ...blah ...blah ...blah
But five days with dad on Chinese trip was paid US$1.5 billion dollars?
Looks like Obama\ss and Biden will go to jail
https://republican.fake.news.central/obama-and-biden-blah-blah-blah
No it does not happening. But should Trump lose the next election he will
be definitely heading that way!

*Republicans can't quit fake news*
"The Republican Party has increasingly created and used political
microsites designed to look like local news sites as a political tactic.
Here’s why that’s bad for democracy."
<https://www.mediamatters.org/fake-news/republicans-cant-quit-fake-news>

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neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
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idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>>
Ördög
2020-02-03 19:38:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by petzl
Coal contributes to over 42% of the power generated in Germany.
So where will they get the replacement from?
Same place they've got the previous 58% from.
Germany has a lot of nuclear power plants in France that export
electricity into Germany, then there is Russian Gas.
Until Germany shuts it's Coal powered Electricity down they have
still have to buy coal.
Err, this has all been stated before and is nothing new. In fact, I
mentioned it here previously. hint, they won't be buying coal from
Australia.
If its clean burning black coal best in the world they either buy from
Australia or they don't and it don't matter the UK will and the price
is a world price 19 years is a long time Merkle will of gone the EU
will be no more.
Drunk?
As per usual he is! The absurdity of his posts are inversely proportional
to his blood alcohol level.
--
Ördög, without any apologies !!!
Rod Speed
2020-02-02 08:50:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Rod Spud is wrong (as usual) on volcanoes emitting more
GHG and contributing to climate change than than humans
I never ever said anything of the sort,, fuckwit cow.
FMurtz
2020-02-02 04:53:34 UTC
Permalink
Not talking about volcanic GHGs fuckwit.
It’s the massive outpouring of volcanic ash
into the atmosphere that produced 6 volcanic
winters in a row 74K years ago, fuckwit.
So totally irrelevant to GHG discussions
“Coronavirus is caused by climate change.”
Exactly, :)
Ördög
2020-02-02 05:48:09 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Petz
“Coronavirus is caused by climate change.”
Exactly
??? Have you been staying out in the excessive summer heat too often
lately?
If so, indeed the AGW might be the cause of that curious mental break
down.
--
Ördög, without any apologies !!!
Petzl
2020-02-02 05:54:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
Post by Dechucka
Petz
“Coronavirus is caused by climate change.”
Exactly
??? Have you been staying out in the excessive summer heat too often
lately?
If so, indeed the AGW might be the cause of that curious mental break
down.
“The coronavirus won’t last long because it was made in China!!!”
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Ördög
2020-02-02 06:15:31 UTC
Permalink
Petz
Post by Ördög
Ördög,
Post by Ördög
Post by Dechucka
Petz
Cronavirus is caused by climate change.
Exactly
??? Have you been staying out in the excessive summer heat too often
lately?
If so, indeed the AGW might be the cause of that curious mental break
down.
The coronavirus won't last long because it was made in China!!!
You are clearly barking up at the wrong tree.
It was made by invading little green Islamist/Communist shape shifting
reptilian space aliens... :P

NEXT Petz-sanity collapse!

--
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neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Daniel60
2020-04-27 13:51:21 UTC
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Cross-post to aus.legal removed!!
US crew dead in firefighting plane crash
An air tanker has crashed in a fireball while fighting bushfires in
Australia, killing the three people on board.
Officials lost contact with the C-130 Hercules plane shortly before
13:30 local time (02:30 GMT) on Thursday.
The cause of the crash in the Snowy Mountains in New South Wales (NSW)
state is not yet known. The victims were American residents.
Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison and NSW Premier Gladys
Berejiklian have expressed condolences for the firefighters' families.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51217076
Sad, but when are we to see the end of news about Morrison, Fires,
Global warming, and bleached coral. When?
Three months later ..... and the news is still all Morrison!!
--
Daniel
Daniel60
2020-04-27 13:55:51 UTC
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Cross-post to aus.legal removed
<Snip>
Sad, but when are we to see the end of news about Morrison,
Fires, Global warming, and bleached coral. When?
Morrison:       the next backstabbing;
That would make it even worse, stupid.
Nope.
Yep.
They don't talk about Rudd these days. Or Gillard. Turnbull
and Abbott have to go out of their way to get a mention...
Still get mentioned, particularly when they remain in parliament, stupid.
And how many of "Rudd, Gillard, Turnbull and Abbott" have remained in
Parliament?? Even at the date your post was made (25/01/20)?
--
Daniel
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