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Australian taxpayers will be charged close to half a million dollars for this month's brief royal tour for Prince Charles and Camilla
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/prince-charles-down-under-taxpayers-face-big-bill-for-royal-visit-20151112-gkxwuc.html

Prince Charles down under: Taxpayers face big bill for royal visit

November 15, 2015 - 12:15AM
Adam Gartrell
National Political Correspondent

Australian taxpayers will be charged close to half a million dollars for
this month's brief royal tour.

Prince Charles and Camilla are due to fly out of Australia on Sunday after a
five-day tour that took them to Adelaide, the Barossa Valley, Canberra,
Sydney, Perth and Albany.

But they'll be leaving a hefty bill behind.

The Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has confirmed it is covering
the costs of the trip.

"The total cost of the visit is not yet known but it is expected that it
will be consistent with past visits," a spokesperson said.

The department pointed out the royal couple's last visit, a similar six-day
trip in November 2012, cost it $437,057.

That included roughly $257,000 for transport, $85,000 for meals,
accommodation and incidentals, $66,500 for media work, $5500 for hospitality
and events and $23,000 in so-called miscellaneous costs.

The department's figures do not include the cost of security, which would
take the total much higher.

Taxpayers were charged $474,000 to host Prince William and his young family
in April last year but that was considered a "budget" trip because the costs
were spread over 10 days.

A 2011 visit by the Queen and her husband cost taxpayers $2.7 million.

Proponents of royal tours say the international coverage leads to a boost
for the tourism industry.

This was Charles' 15th visit to Australia. His first was almost 50 years
ago, when he spent two terms at a Victorian school.

He met Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull - a former leader of the Australian
Republican Movement - in Canberra on Wednesday. Mr Turnbull once accused
Prince Charles of "unashamed adultery" over his relationship with his
then-mistress Camilla.

Prince Charles celebrated his 67th birthday with a beachside barbecue in the
Perth suburb or Cottesloe on Saturday.
Eunometic
2015-11-15 04:08:01 UTC
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We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.


Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to be somewhat Jewish. You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith. Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was Jewish(explains the nose) Next British King will be a technical Jew. British elite intermarried with Jews (eg Cameron) so they can fuck of and do aliah in Israel and be King and Queen there.
Fran Farmer
2015-11-17 02:59:23 UTC
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Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was Jewish(explains
the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.

Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and wrong
but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
Petzl
2015-11-17 10:13:15 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was Jewish(explains
the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and wrong
but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran?
You seem to think this is "normal" behavior!
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning; There is no purpose
Fran Farmer
2015-11-17 21:49:30 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was Jewish(explains
the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and wrong
but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran?
You seem to think this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
Petzl
2015-11-18 01:10:44 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was Jewish(explains
the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and wrong
but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran?
You seem to think this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
--
Petzl
If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian country with Christian
norms. Our laws, The things we do, The way our political parties behave, have, if not
an activist Christianity about it, Christian ideals.
Paul Keating
Fran Farmer
2015-11-18 01:55:35 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was Jewish(explains
the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and wrong
but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran?
You seem to think this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
2015-11-18 03:49:05 UTC
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Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and
other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to
be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think this
is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone here
he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles against us.
He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing his lame duck
image in the newsgroup.

Pathetic...
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Gordon Levi
2015-11-18 04:37:13 UTC
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Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and
other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to
be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think this
is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone here
he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles against us.
He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing his lame duck
image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
Fran Farmer
2015-11-18 10:33:39 UTC
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Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and
other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to
be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think this
is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone here
he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles against us.
He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing his lame duck
image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!

I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or he's
really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way. He
clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.

I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
2015-11-18 11:38:26 UTC
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Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured
to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
Gordon is trying to be fair to Petz, something Petz has never done in any
of his posts to anyone nor does he show the ability to appreciate or even
understand fairness.

The problem with Petz is complex:

Firstly his views are on all political issues are over the top extreme.

Secondly he relies on extremist and very questionable sources which he
than randomly copy&paste into different threads regardless if they are
relevant to the subject or not.

Thirdly he never even attempts to read the content of replies fully nor
the supporting links provided. Because his inability or unwillingness to
deal with opposing ideas he just moves the goal posts in any discussion
where he perceives himself the loser.

Fourthly he imitates the attack tactics of other posters (turning back
accusation on the opponent) although he is so inept at it that is quite
obvious to all what he is doing.

Finally he is an underhanded bastard. The personal and completely
uncalled for accusations he had posted over the years about many of the
regulars in aus.politics can not be forgiven nor tolerated.
Some years back he was part of that desperate attempt that was trying to
find out and publicly disclose my real identity and physical location of
my home (to be fair he was not the only one). I assume the aim of that
game was not about sending me a bottle of wine and roses as birthday
present.
Post by Fran Farmer
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or he's
really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way. He
clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I don't believe that Petz is a troll.
He is either totally insane/unstable or he puts on an act that has a
defined purpose of stirring things up.
Some of the regular ridiculous assertions he makes can clearly be
interpreted either way.
Post by Fran Farmer
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Fran Farmer
2015-11-19 03:32:19 UTC
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On 18/11/2015 10:38 PM, Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured
to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't
use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
Gordon is trying to be fair to Petz,
I realize that was the thought bubble behind Gordon's comment but what
he said was unfair to me. I have repeatedly given Petz facts and cites
so I don't take too kindly to being told I should try challenging Petz
with facts when I've given him facts to the point where it's ad nauseum.

something Petz has never done in any
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
of his posts to anyone nor does he show the ability to appreciate or even
understand fairness.
Firstly his views are on all political issues are over the top extreme.
Secondly he relies on extremist and very questionable sources
Oh yeah!

which he
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
than randomly copy&paste into different threads regardless if they are
relevant to the subject or not.
Or factual or fibs.
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Thirdly he never even attempts to read the content of replies fully nor
the supporting links provided. Because his inability or unwillingness to
deal with opposing ideas he just moves the goal posts in any discussion
where he perceives himself the loser.
Fourthly he imitates the attack tactics of other posters (turning back
accusation on the opponent) although he is so inept at it that is quite
obvious to all what he is doing.
Finally he is an underhanded bastard. The personal and completely
uncalled for accusations he had posted over the years about many of the
regulars in aus.politics can not be forgiven nor tolerated.
Some years back he was part of that desperate attempt that was trying to
find out and publicly disclose my real identity and physical location of
my home (to be fair he was not the only one). I assume the aim of that
game was not about sending me a bottle of wine and roses as birthday
present.
That's not on IMO.
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or he's
really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way. He
clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I don't believe that Petz is a troll.
No, neither do I. I had entertained that thought for a while but as I
said, trolls who try the "I'm dumb" act (when they really aren't at all)
can't sustain it for all that long just as liars are always caught out
because they can't remember what lies they've told.
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
He is either totally insane/unstable or he puts on an act that has a
defined purpose of stirring things up.
Some of the regular ridiculous assertions he makes can clearly be
interpreted either way.
I'm now thinking he's insane in a brainwashed fundie way.
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
Petzl
2015-11-19 10:18:31 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:32:19 +1100, Fran Farmer
<***@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> wrote:
[snip\
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
Gordon is trying to be fair to Petz,
I realize that was the thought bubble behind Gordon's comment but what
he said was unfair to me. I have repeatedly given Petz facts and cites
so I don't take too kindly to being told I should try challenging Petz
with facts when I've given him facts to the point where it's ad nauseum.
something Petz has never done in any
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
of his posts to anyone nor does he show the ability to appreciate or even
understand fairness.
Firstly his views are on all political issues are over the top extreme.
Secondly he relies on extremist and very questionable sources
Oh yeah!
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
Post by Fran Farmer
which he
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
than randomly copy&paste into different threads regardless if they are
relevant to the subject or not.
Or factual or fibs.
I don't lie
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Thirdly he never even attempts to read the content of replies fully nor
the supporting links provided. Because his inability or unwillingness to
deal with opposing ideas he just moves the goal posts in any discussion
where he perceives himself the loser.
Fourthly he imitates the attack tactics of other posters (turning back
accusation on the opponent) although he is so inept at it that is quite
obvious to all what he is doing.
Finally he is an underhanded bastard. The personal and completely
uncalled for accusations he had posted over the years about many of the
regulars in aus.politics can not be forgiven nor tolerated.
Some years back he was part of that desperate attempt that was trying to
find out and publicly disclose my real identity and physical location of
my home (to be fair he was not the only one). I assume the aim of that
game was not about sending me a bottle of wine and roses as birthday
present.
That's not on IMO.
This guy is loony tunes.
Did nothing of that sort?
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or he's
really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way. He
clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I don't believe that Petz is a troll.
No, neither do I. I had entertained that thought for a while but as I
said, trolls who try the "I'm dumb" act (when they really aren't at all)
can't sustain it for all that long just as liars are always caught out
because they can't remember what lies they've told.
Your right and I have no problem with that
even though not correct
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
He is either totally insane/unstable or he puts on an act that has a
defined purpose of stirring things up.
Some of the regular ridiculous assertions he makes can clearly be
interpreted either way.
I'm now thinking he's insane in a brainwashed fundie way.
Not been picked up by those that know
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
--
Petzl
Matthew 15:11
It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what
comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
2015-11-19 11:09:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Firstly his views are on all political issues are over the top extreme.
Secondly he relies on extremist and very questionable sources
I usually quote the source I don't if I add my content to it.
Yes, those neo-Nazi U-tube action snippets.
And of course everyone knows that if something is on U-tube than it MUST
be true...LOL!
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
which he
than randomly copy&paste into different threads regardless if they are
relevant to the subject or not.
Or factual or fibs.
I don't lie
You just tell the things you or your fundy mates have invented/
manufactured/distorted....
You might even believe (or hope) them to be true...we don't have to!
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Thirdly he never even attempts to read the content of replies fully
nor the supporting links provided. Because his inability or
unwillingness to deal with opposing ideas he just moves the goal posts
in any discussion where he perceives himself the loser.
Fourthly he imitates the attack tactics of other posters (turning back
accusation on the opponent) although he is so inept at it that is
quite obvious to all what he is doing.
Finally he is an underhanded bastard. The personal and completely
uncalled for accusations he had posted over the years about many of
the regulars in aus.politics can not be forgiven nor tolerated.
Some years back he was part of that desperate attempt that was trying
to find out and publicly disclose my real identity and physical
location of my home (to be fair he was not the only one). I assume the
aim of that game was not about sending me a bottle of wine and roses
as birthday present.
That's not on IMO.
Did nothing of that sort?
Well, well, well....
The Devil has long memories...
And slowly but surely has also learned how to be more careful on
Usenet...:P
--
Ördög
Gordon Levi
2015-11-19 13:39:09 UTC
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Post by Petzl
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
If you copy someone else's work and tailor it for a particular
audience that is still plagiarism. You can acknowledge the source by
telling us your copy is "based on" that of the real author and provide
the URL to the original. You are better off giving the credit because
it is always obvious when you steal someone else's work.
Petzl
2015-11-20 01:32:52 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 00:39:09 +1100, Gordon Levi
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Petzl
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
If you copy someone else's work and tailor it for a particular
audience that is still plagiarism. You can acknowledge the source by
telling us your copy is "based on" that of the real author and provide
the URL to the original. You are better off giving the credit because
it is always obvious when you steal someone else's work.
Thanks for opinion (will consider).
I find here the talored source is often used against one so the less
info the better Fran seems to think her sources are legit?
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions, the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
2015-11-20 02:30:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
I usually quote the source I don't if I add my content to it.
If you copy someone else's work and tailor it for a particular audience
that is still plagiarism. You can acknowledge the source by telling us
your copy is "based on" that of the real author and provide the URL to
the original. You are better off giving the credit because it is always
obvious when you steal someone else's work.
Thanks for opinion (will consider).
I find here the talored source is often used against one so the less
info the better Fran seems to think her sources are legit?
Define "tailored source"! If you can. I don't hold my breath though,
specially because your sources are 99% manufactured propaganda.
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Fran Farmer
2015-11-19 22:26:36 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:32:19 +1100, Fran Farmer
[snip\
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
Gordon is trying to be fair to Petz,
I realize that was the thought bubble behind Gordon's comment but what
he said was unfair to me. I have repeatedly given Petz facts and cites
so I don't take too kindly to being told I should try challenging Petz
with facts when I've given him facts to the point where it's ad nauseum.
something Petz has never done in any
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
of his posts to anyone nor does he show the ability to appreciate or even
understand fairness.
Firstly his views are on all political issues are over the top extreme.
Secondly he relies on extremist and very questionable sources
Oh yeah!
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
The point is that your sources are questionable. That menas dodgy, not
credible, not trustworthy, crap, not worth your time or yours reading
them..........
Post by Petzl
Post by Fran Farmer
which he
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
than randomly copy&paste into different threads regardless if they are
relevant to the subject or not.
Or factual or fibs.
I don't lie
But your sources often do lie. You either can't tell when your sources
are telling you lies or perhaps you don't care that you are being told
lies because it supports yoru world view, but whatever your reasoning
may be, when you believe those lies and you then spread them online, you
are spouting lies regardless of whether you think you lie or not.

(snip)
Post by Petzl
Post by Fran Farmer
I'm now thinking he's insane in a brainwashed fundie way.
Not been picked up by those that know
Now that is a very interesting wording. "Not picked up by those that
know" suggests that there is a "yet" to be added to the end.
Petzl
2015-11-20 01:36:02 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:26:36 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
The point is that your sources are questionable. That menas dodgy, not
credible, not trustworthy, crap, not worth your time or yours reading
them..........
Name some sources you consider unquestionable?
Australia's Bible I take it for you is not Gospel?
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions, the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Fran Farmer
2015-11-20 01:51:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:26:36 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
The point is that your sources are questionable. That menas dodgy, not
credible, not trustworthy, crap, not worth your time or yours reading
them..........
Name some sources you consider unquestionable?
Over in the National Anthem thread, you quoted Kangaroo Court. I find
that site to be a very questionable one because it's only one
individual's opinion. I gave you the cite of the Parliamentary
Education Office. That site is more reliable than one person's opinion
because, a) we still live in a democracy where our public officials are
still held accountable for information they provide and b) they have
been providing information for a long time, c) they have access to
original records.
Petzl
2015-11-20 02:55:35 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:51:26 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:26:36 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
I usually quote the source
I don't if I add my content to it.
The point is that your sources are questionable. That menas dodgy, not
credible, not trustworthy, crap, not worth your time or yours reading
them..........
Name some sources you consider unquestionable?
Over in the National Anthem thread, you quoted Kangaroo Court. I find
that site to be a very questionable one because it's only one
individual's opinion. I gave you the cite of the Parliamentary
Education Office. That site is more reliable than one person's opinion
because, a) we still live in a democracy where our public officials are
still held accountable for information they provide and b) they have
been providing information for a long time, c) they have access to
original records.
This source legit?
Seems Moslems like non-"Halal certified" coffee shops?
**********
Head "Halal Certifier" El Mouthy met Man Haron Monis outside Lindt
cafe minutes before siege?
http://bit.ly/1Yjmucs
“I think it’s pathetic,” said Halal certification authority boss Nadia
El-Mouelhy, who left the siege site only minutes before the gunman
stormed the cafe.

http://bit.ly/1Yjmucs
The Daily Telegraph has obtained a photograph of ­Ibrahim Abu Mohammed
next to Lindt cafe killer Monis.
It was taken in 2010, with Ismail Alwahwah, who called for a jihad
against the Jews.
--
Petzl
ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslems "Prophet" Mohammad wouldn't and did do!
If we fail to be precise in how we describe our enemy and its ideology, it will defeat us.
Islam is of course synonymous with terrorism
There are more Australian Muslims fighting with al Qaeda linked
groups than there are in the Australian Defence Force fighting against them!
.
Major majority of the worlds refugees are created by Islam since the
days of Mohammad. Mainly because Islam is actually a violent political
process, not a religion at all.
Islamic conquests have always been by infiltration (Trojan Horse:
Al-Hijra, The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration). This is how Islam
grows, a violent political process using , terrorist attack from
within, eventually followed by surprise attack, followed by killing
for killings sake.
Once Moslems have foothold maintaining rule is held by continued
carnage and ruthlessness.
Until it's recognized Islam is the problem nothing will change!
How Islam began and still violently grows

Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
2015-11-20 02:33:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:26:36 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
I usually quote the source I don't if I add my content to it.
The point is that your sources are questionable. That menas dodgy, not
credible, not trustworthy, crap, not worth your time or yours reading
them..........
Name some sources you consider unquestionable? Australia's Bible I take
it for you is not Gospel?
You indeed cite your Bible more than enough (Grrr, in this political
forum), but that does not make it any more real or valid for the 21st
Century than let's say the Greek Mythology...
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Gordon Levi
2015-11-19 13:47:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran Farmer
On 18/11/2015 10:38 PM, Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured
to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't
use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
Gordon is trying to be fair to Petz,
I realize that was the thought bubble behind Gordon's comment but what
he said was unfair to me. I have repeatedly given Petz facts and cites
so I don't take too kindly to being told I should try challenging Petz
with facts when I've given him facts to the point where it's ad nauseum.
I'm sorry. I did not intend to be offensive and I have noted, with
pleasure, the countless times you have demolished Petzl's posts with
facts. My only point was that anybody, including Petzl, can use
insults and they invariably result in boring posts. Since I know you
can use logic I was hoping to persuade you to do so or to not bother
responding to Petzl at all.
Fran Farmer
2015-11-19 22:38:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Fran Farmer
On 18/11/2015 10:38 PM, Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Ördög Abaddon Belphegor Lucifer Mephisto Satan
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured
to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't
use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
Gordon is trying to be fair to Petz,
I realize that was the thought bubble behind Gordon's comment but what
he said was unfair to me. I have repeatedly given Petz facts and cites
so I don't take too kindly to being told I should try challenging Petz
with facts when I've given him facts to the point where it's ad nauseum.
I'm sorry. I did not intend to be offensive and I have noted, with
pleasure, the countless times you have demolished Petzl's posts with
facts.
Gordo,n I think you would have my measure sufficiently by now to know
that I don't take offense at strongly argued points of view, but I did
take umbrage at the implication that I don't give Petz facts. I
(generally) start responding to him with facts before I lose patience
with him. I must admit in this case I didn't though. I've got to
wonder why it is that people (including Petz) don't do a google before
they post moronic crap like the Kate Middleton is Jewish rubbish.

My only point was that anybody, including Petzl, can use
Post by Gordon Levi
insults and they invariably result in boring posts. Since I know you
can use logic I was hoping to persuade you to do so or to not bother
responding to Petzl at all.
There is some truth in that, but some of the most entertaining posts
I've ever read were insults. The Brits are brilliant at it. The best
ones are the ones where 3 days later you are still wondering if you
really were insulted or not or whether you are just being paranoid.
Being Australian, I've never managed that height of insult. I just draw
a bead and let off both barrels. Petz has yet to figure out that he
needs to aim or choose his ammo.
Gordon Levi
2015-11-19 13:05:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and
other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to
be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think this
is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone here
he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles against us.
He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing his lame duck
image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or he's
really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way. He
clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
You may be right about all of the above. That doesn't alter my point.
By referring to tinfoil hats or calling him obtuse and ignorant you
lose because we know you are capable of winning on the facts and Petzl
is not. On the other hand, as he has shown, he is just as good as you
are at name calling. Neither logic nor name calling are going to gain
an admission from Petzl that he is wrong but logic will make your
posts far more readable for the rest of us.
Fran Farmer
2015-11-19 22:51:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees and
other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is rumoured to
be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies and
wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think this
is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone here
he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles against us.
He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing his lame duck
image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing Fran
that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that she
should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or he's
really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way. He
clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
You may be right about all of the above. That doesn't alter my point.
By referring to tinfoil hats or calling him obtuse and ignorant you
lose
That is absolute rot. I am not in a contest so do not 'lose'. I am
insulting him. I am quite deliberate in making those insults. He needs
to lift his game and so far neither facts or insults have worked but
maybe something I say may get through to him at some stage. I have not
dropped him in my bozo bin and I still don't understand why I have not
done that. Perhaps I just live in hope that as a fellow Australian,
he'll stop being an embarrassment when he responds to dopy Yanks.

because we know you are capable of winning on the facts and Petzl
Post by Gordon Levi
is not. On the other hand, as he has shown, he is just as good as you
are at name calling.
Snort. I admire a good insult. When Petz manages to do either of
those things I'll let you know.

Neither logic nor name calling are going to gain
Post by Gordon Levi
an admission from Petzl that he is wrong but logic will make your
posts far more readable for the rest of us.
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
2015-11-20 00:09:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is
rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who
can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies
and wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing
Fran that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that
she should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or
he's really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way.
He clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
You may be right about all of the above. That doesn't alter my point.
By referring to tinfoil hats or calling him obtuse and ignorant you
lose
That is absolute rot. I am not in a contest so do not 'lose'. I am
insulting him. I am quite deliberate in making those insults. He needs
to lift his game and so far neither facts or insults have worked but
maybe something I say may get through to him at some stage. I have not
dropped him in my bozo bin and I still don't understand why I have not
done that. Perhaps I just live in hope that as a fellow Australian,
he'll stop being an embarrassment when he responds to dopy Yanks.
because we know you are capable of winning on the facts and Petzl
Post by Gordon Levi
is not. On the other hand, as he has shown, he is just as good as you
are at name calling.
Snort. I admire a good insult. When Petz manages to do either of
those things I'll let you know.
Neither logic nor name calling are going to gain
Post by Gordon Levi
an admission from Petzl that he is wrong but logic will make your posts
far more readable for the rest of us.
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
I am following your exchanges with Gordon with interest.

Both of you have made some good points. I admire Gordon's attempt at
being cool headed and fair. However, I completely agree with you on not
giving quarter to the kind of extremist outbursts Petz and a number of
other posters dump into aus.politics.

Of course, trying to fight back can take many forms but not responding is
the worst response in my opinion.

I have made the decision not to waste too much time on
factually debunking rightwing extremists because it would require
intensive intellectual engagement with the kind of material I really
can't stomach for no actual benefit to anyone on either side of the
ideological divide.
Some of the more ridiculous assertions are quite easy to counter with
facts and I am happy to do it but in case of most others all I am
inclined to do is to make my disapproval public in as course and loud a
manner as possible.
These posters should not have the illusion that silence means acceptance
or even tolerance.

My only excuse for being mean them is that I am a hot headed ex-Hungarian.
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Pelican
2015-11-20 00:20:13 UTC
Permalink
My only excuse for being mean them is that I am a [ - insert word(s)
of your choice - ].
Fran Farmer
2015-11-20 01:58:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is
rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who
can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies
and wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing
Fran that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that
she should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or
he's really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way.
He clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
You may be right about all of the above. That doesn't alter my point.
By referring to tinfoil hats or calling him obtuse and ignorant you
lose
That is absolute rot. I am not in a contest so do not 'lose'. I am
insulting him. I am quite deliberate in making those insults. He needs
to lift his game and so far neither facts or insults have worked but
maybe something I say may get through to him at some stage. I have not
dropped him in my bozo bin and I still don't understand why I have not
done that. Perhaps I just live in hope that as a fellow Australian,
he'll stop being an embarrassment when he responds to dopy Yanks.
because we know you are capable of winning on the facts and Petzl
Post by Gordon Levi
is not. On the other hand, as he has shown, he is just as good as you
are at name calling.
Snort. I admire a good insult. When Petz manages to do either of
those things I'll let you know.
Neither logic nor name calling are going to gain
Post by Gordon Levi
an admission from Petzl that he is wrong but logic will make your posts
far more readable for the rest of us.
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
I am following your exchanges with Gordon with interest.
Both of you have made some good points. I admire Gordon's attempt at
being cool headed and fair. However, I completely agree with you on not
giving quarter to the kind of extremist outbursts Petz and a number of
other posters dump into aus.politics.
Yup. I've always seen a great deal of sense in the quote:
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that
matter." I think that is quote form Martin Luther King but could be wrong.
Post by Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
Of course, trying to fight back can take many forms but not responding is
the worst response in my opinion.
Yep.
Post by Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
I have made the decision not to waste too much time on
factually debunking rightwing extremists because it would require
intensive intellectual engagement with the kind of material I really
can't stomach for no actual benefit to anyone on either side of the
ideological divide.
Yep. Another quote: "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas" and that
right wing stuff is soiling.
Post by Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
Some of the more ridiculous assertions are quite easy to counter with
facts and I am happy to do it but in case of most others all I am
inclined to do is to make my disapproval public in as course and loud a
manner as possible.
These posters should not have the illusion that silence means acceptance
or even tolerance.
My only excuse for being mean them is that I am a hot headed ex-Hungarian.
Snort. A friend always tells me that the best compliment had was ever
given was from a Hungarian Jew who told my friend that, although he had
no Hungarian accent, my frieed could very easily be mistaken for a
Hungarian Jew. My friend used to be a very canny businessman.
Gordon Levi
2015-11-21 12:50:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Gordon Levi
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:49:30 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:59:23 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Eunometic
Post by Eunometic
We spend about 6 billion dollars on multiculturalism, refugees
and other useless shit. A few royals is nothing.
Kate Middleton, possibly the next Queen of England, is
rumoured to be somewhat Jewish.
You see, Kate's mother's maiden name is Goldsmith.
Dianna Spencer Diana's mother Frances Shand Kydd was
Jewish(explains the nose)
Next British King will be a technical Jew.
Groan! As if Petz wasn't enough!!!!
Here is another moronic bogan tin foil hate wearer who
can't use
google to check even the most basic of facts! It's all lies
and wrong but that doesn't stop this foil fascinator fan.
You got your foil hat properly earthed Fran? You seem to think
this is "normal" behavior!
I certainly do not think that your tin foil hat wearing is normal
behaviour. You and this new loon are the ones who are foil fans.
You are obviously Schizophrenic, and need therapy;
Not confirmation of your delusions.
Seek help
Nice try Petz, but you are the resident loon in this group.
He is a lame duck.
When his Xtian fundy/racist/bigot diatribes fail to impress anyone
here he tries to turn our own replies to him as verbal missiles
against us. He does not realise that all that does is just enhancing
his lame duck image in the newsgroup.
Pathetic...
No. Petzl is right. Calling someone a loon or referring to a tinfoil
hat does nothing to advance a rational argument. Petzl is showing
Fran that even he can do that and, by implication, suggesting that
she should challenge him with facts not name calling.
You obviously need to pay closer attention!
I've given him so many facts and so many cites in so many threads and
done it for so long that I am wondering if he's just a troll. He's
either a very smart troll (and I've never yet come across one who can
maintain that degree of moronism for such a lengthy time frame) or
he's really stupid, ignorant, obtuse and set on remaining that way.
He clearly either never reads the cites or facts he's given or is too
stupid to understand them or he's a superlative troll.
I doubt that he's a superlative troll given the dumb cites he provides.
A smart person couldn't stomach reading the drivel in the cites he
dishes up. eg Kangaroo Court of Australia and Larry Pickering.
You may be right about all of the above. That doesn't alter my point.
By referring to tinfoil hats or calling him obtuse and ignorant you
lose
That is absolute rot. I am not in a contest so do not 'lose'. I am
insulting him. I am quite deliberate in making those insults. He needs
to lift his game and so far neither facts or insults have worked but
maybe something I say may get through to him at some stage. I have not
dropped him in my bozo bin and I still don't understand why I have not
done that. Perhaps I just live in hope that as a fellow Australian,
he'll stop being an embarrassment when he responds to dopy Yanks.
because we know you are capable of winning on the facts and Petzl
Post by Gordon Levi
is not. On the other hand, as he has shown, he is just as good as you
are at name calling.
Snort. I admire a good insult. When Petz manages to do either of
those things I'll let you know.
Neither logic nor name calling are going to gain
Post by Gordon Levi
an admission from Petzl that he is wrong but logic will make your posts
far more readable for the rest of us.
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
I am following your exchanges with Gordon with interest.
Both of you have made some good points. I admire Gordon's attempt at
being cool headed and fair. However, I completely agree with you on not
giving quarter to the kind of extremist outbursts Petz and a number of
other posters dump into aus.politics.
Of course, trying to fight back can take many forms but not responding is
the worst response in my opinion.
I agree that a well argued reply is by far the best response. I also
agree that responding is much better than silence and I always respond
if I am talking to a real person.

I have long given up responding to xxx is a Jew. It is impossible to
prove a negative. Nobody can prove that, say, the Queen is not Jewish.
I also think that a feeble response or a string of insults is worse
than no response at all. It allows the OP to believe that someone is
listening and is unable to counter the assertion.
Post by Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
I have made the decision not to waste too much time on
factually debunking rightwing extremists because it would require
intensive intellectual engagement with the kind of material I really
can't stomach for no actual benefit to anyone on either side of the
ideological divide.
Some of the more ridiculous assertions are quite easy to counter with
facts and I am happy to do it but in case of most others all I am
inclined to do is to make my disapproval public in as course and loud a
manner as possible.
These posters should not have the illusion that silence means acceptance
or even tolerance.
My only excuse for being mean them is that I am a hot headed ex-Hungarian.
Petzl
2015-11-20 01:39:13 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Fran Farmer
2015-11-20 02:02:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
I am most definitely not lying. I am sitting in a chair.
Petzl
2015-11-20 02:58:01 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:02:05 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
I am most definitely not lying. I am sitting in a chair.
This source acceptable?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning; There is no purpose
Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög
2015-11-20 02:26:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
Really? Nonsense?

Have you actually ever tried to look at objectively at your verbal output?
Have you ever wondered what a third party might think about your hate
messages?
When you go after people you believe to be Jews, when you equate Islam
with Arabs? When you actively support neo-Nazi propaganda by relying on
their lies and insist on citing them?

Yes, you are mostly a bigoted creep but deep down you are also a racist
consciously or subconsciously.
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Gordon Levi
2015-11-22 04:39:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
Most people (mis)use the word "racist" to mean a prejudice, usually
negative, based on any particular ethnicity or religion. I have not
found the correct term for such a prejudice but I don't think you
would even wish to deny that you have it. As an example, your view of
all Muslims is based on your knowledge from biased sources about some
Muslims. The fact that you are not racist about some races, for
example aboriginals, does not excuse you from treating Muslims as
though they are all the same.
Petzl
2015-11-22 06:51:45 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:39:30 +1100, Gordon Levi
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
Most people (mis)use the word "racist" to mean a prejudice, usually
negative, based on any particular ethnicity or religion. I have not
found the correct term for such a prejudice but I don't think you
would even wish to deny that you have it. As an example, your view of
all Muslims is based on your knowledge from biased sources about some
Muslims. The fact that you are not racist about some races, for
example aboriginals, does not excuse you from treating Muslims as
though they are all the same.
I'm not prejudicial either
You think Sir Winston Churchill was?
I don't dislike Jews but are wary of them.
Moslems always claim feel so uncomfortable with well over 60% of
Australian's why don't "our" government send them packing back to the
Islamic kleptocracy they first fled from?
There is something very sinister here regarding Islam and Moslems.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328410/Scouts-dump-God-promise-makes-non-Christians-uncomfortable.html
http://dailym.ai/1SREozu
"because it ‘makes non-Christians uncomfortable’ is always code for
Moslem!
The cure is simply to ban Islam
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
Ördög
2015-11-22 07:28:54 UTC
Permalink
I don't dislike Jews but ....
The statement above is the standard trademark of racist in denial...
--
Ördög

"Ut sementem feceris, ita metes"(Cicero)
Jeßus
2015-11-22 07:33:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
I don't dislike Jews but ....
The statement above is the standard trademark of racist in denial...
Jews are not a race. Although admittedly some like to play that card
when it suits them.
The Equalizer
2015-11-22 07:46:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ördög
I don't dislike Jews but ....
The statement above is the standard trademark of racist in denial...
Jews are not a race.unning wild
I don't confuse the word "race" with what the term "racist" entails.
Races do not need to exist (and in fact they don't except as in "the
human race") to have racists running berserk.
Although admittedly some like to play that card
when it suits them.
Self delusions and racism goes hand in hand. Just look at Petz.
Jeßus
2015-11-22 08:27:11 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 07:46:29 -0000 (UTC), The Equalizer
Post by Ördög
I don't dislike Jews but ....
The statement above is the standard trademark of racist in denial...
Jews are not a race.unning wild
^what's this about?^ Your idea of a troll?
Gordon Levi
2015-11-22 08:20:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:39:30 +1100, Gordon Levi
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
Most people (mis)use the word "racist" to mean a prejudice, usually
negative, based on any particular ethnicity or religion. I have not
found the correct term for such a prejudice but I don't think you
would even wish to deny that you have it. As an example, your view of
all Muslims is based on your knowledge from biased sources about some
Muslims. The fact that you are not racist about some races, for
example aboriginals, does not excuse you from treating Muslims as
though they are all the same.
I'm not prejudicial either
You think Sir Winston Churchill was?
Of course he was but at least he had the excuse that his views were
unquestioned by his peers <http://tinyurl.com/327a8zl>. If you mixed
with more Australians rather than your own Christian cult you would
see that almost no one shares the views you express below.
Post by Petzl
I don't dislike Jews but are wary of them.
Moslems always claim feel so uncomfortable with well over 60% of
Australian's why don't "our" government send them packing back to the
Islamic kleptocracy they first fled from?
There is something very sinister here regarding Islam and Moslems.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328410/Scouts-dump-God-promise-makes-non-Christians-uncomfortable.html
http://dailym.ai/1SREozu
"because it ‘makes non-Christians uncomfortable’ is always code for
Moslem!
The cure is simply to ban Islam
Petzl
2015-11-22 08:37:19 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:20:11 +1100, Gordon Levi
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:39:30 +1100, Gordon Levi
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:51:15 +1100, Fran Farmer
Post by Fran Farmer
You mean the 'rest' of you who sit back, say nothing and let all sorts
of racist, bigoted, erroneous crap float right past your eyes for YOUR
entertainment??????? That it a good enough reason to never post here
again and just leave you with Petz.
You keep lying in stating I'm racist which is more Fran nonsense
Most people (mis)use the word "racist" to mean a prejudice, usually
negative, based on any particular ethnicity or religion. I have not
found the correct term for such a prejudice but I don't think you
would even wish to deny that you have it. As an example, your view of
all Muslims is based on your knowledge from biased sources about some
Muslims. The fact that you are not racist about some races, for
example aboriginals, does not excuse you from treating Muslims as
though they are all the same.
I'm not prejudicial either
You think Sir Winston Churchill was?
Of course he was but at least he had the excuse that his views were
unquestioned by his peers <http://tinyurl.com/327a8zl>. If you mixed
with more Australians rather than your own Christian cult you would
see that almost no one shares the views you express below.
Most of whom I "mix" with are Australian mostly I don't know what
religion they are. Grew up in Dover Heights in those days I would say
many of my school mates were Jewish and were told of Zionist dark
sides by them, young and stupid I didn't give a toss.

Yes Churchill had the courage to state what he knew. He wasn't stupid
that's for sure.
Does that "paper" have Frans approval?
Seems a slanted view of Churchill
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Petzl
I don't dislike Jews but are wary of them.
Moslems always claim feel so uncomfortable with well over 60% of
Australian's why don't "our" government send them packing back to the
Islamic kleptocracy they first fled from?
There is something very sinister here regarding Islam and Moslems.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328410/Scouts-dump-God-promise-makes-non-Christians-uncomfortable.html
http://dailym.ai/1SREozu
"because it ‘makes non-Christians uncomfortable’ is always code for
Moslem!
The cure is simply to ban Islam
--
Petzl
ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslems "Prophet" Mohammad wouldn't and did do!
If we fail to be precise in how we describe our enemy and its ideology, it will defeat us.
Islam is of course synonymous with terrorism
There are more Australian Muslims fighting with al Qaeda linked
groups than there are in the Australian Defence Force fighting against them!
.
Major majority of the worlds refugees are created by Islam since the
days of Mohammad. Mainly because Islam is actually a violent political
process, not a religion at all.
Islamic conquests have always been by infiltration (Trojan Horse:
Al-Hijra, The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration). This is how Islam
grows, a violent political process using , terrorist attack from
within, eventually followed by surprise attack, followed by killing
for killings sake.
Once Moslems have foothold maintaining rule is held by continued
carnage and ruthlessness.
Until it's recognized Islam is the problem nothing will change!
How Islam began and still violently grows
http://youtu.be/ERou_Q5l9Gw

Truth and honesty
2015-11-15 09:25:32 UTC
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:40:51 +1100, Sponsor Apartheid in Australia, Buy
Post by Sponsor Apartheid in Australia, Buy Australian
Prince Charles down under: Taxpayers face big bill for royal visit
I am sure that the bills for the Republican model will be higher.
Krzysztof
2015-11-18 08:32:27 UTC
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Post by Sponsor Apartheid in Australia, Buy Australian
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/prince-charles-down-under-taxpayers-face-big-bill-for-royal-visit-20151112-gkxwuc.html
Prince Charles down under: Taxpayers face big bill for royal visit
November 15, 2015 - 12:15AM
Adam Gartrell
National Political Correspondent
Australian taxpayers will be charged close to half a million dollars for
this month's brief royal tour.
Prince Charles and Camilla are due to fly out of Australia on Sunday after a
five-day tour that took them to Adelaide, the Barossa Valley, Canberra,
Sydney, Perth and Albany.
But they'll be leaving a hefty bill behind.
The Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has confirmed it is covering
the costs of the trip.
"The total cost of the visit is not yet known but it is expected that it
will be consistent with past visits," a spokesperson said.
The department pointed out the royal couple's last visit, a similar six-day
trip in November 2012, cost it $437,057.
That included roughly $257,000 for transport, $85,000 for meals,
accommodation and incidentals, $66,500 for media work, $5500 for hospitality
and events and $23,000 in so-called miscellaneous costs.
The department's figures do not include the cost of security, which would
take the total much higher.
Taxpayers were charged $474,000 to host Prince William and his young family
in April last year but that was considered a "budget" trip because the costs
were spread over 10 days.
A 2011 visit by the Queen and her husband cost taxpayers $2.7 million.
Proponents of royal tours say the international coverage leads to a boost
for the tourism industry.
This was Charles' 15th visit to Australia. His first was almost 50 years
ago, when he spent two terms at a Victorian school.
He met Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull - a former leader of the Australian
Republican Movement - in Canberra on Wednesday. Mr Turnbull once accused
Prince Charles of "unashamed adultery" over his relationship with his
then-mistress Camilla.
Prince Charles celebrated his 67th birthday with a beachside barbecue in the
Perth suburb or Cottesloe on Saturday.
I think it was a cheap fun.
We should send Bronwyn Bishop to UK to show how it should be done.

Regards,

Krzysztof
SG1
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Prince Charles down under: Taxpayers face big bill for royal visit
November 15, 2015 - 12:15AM
Adam Gartrell
National Political Correspondent
Australian taxpayers will be charged close to half a million dollars for
this month's brief royal tour.
Prince Charles and Camilla are due to fly out of Australia on Sunday after a
five-day tour that took them to Adelaide, the Barossa Valley, Canberra,
Sydney, Perth and Albany.
But they'll be leaving a hefty bill behind.
The Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has confirmed it is covering
the costs of the trip.
"The total cost of the visit is not yet known but it is expected that it
will be consistent with past visits," a spokesperson said.
The department pointed out the royal couple's last visit, a similar six-day
trip in November 2012, cost it $437,057.
That included roughly $257,000 for transport, $85,000 for meals,
accommodation and incidentals, $66,500 for media work, $5500 for hospitality
and events and $23,000 in so-called miscellaneous costs.
The department's figures do not include the cost of security, which would
take the total much higher.
Taxpayers were charged $474,000 to host Prince William and his young family
in April last year but that was considered a "budget" trip because the costs
were spread over 10 days.
A 2011 visit by the Queen and her husband cost taxpayers $2.7 million.
Proponents of royal tours say the international coverage leads to a boost
for the tourism industry.
This was Charles' 15th visit to Australia. His first was almost 50 years
ago, when he spent two terms at a Victorian school.
He met Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull - a former leader of the Australian
Republican Movement - in Canberra on Wednesday. Mr Turnbull once accused
Prince Charles of "unashamed adultery" over his relationship with his
then-mistress Camilla.
Prince Charles celebrated his 67th birthday with a beachside barbecue in the
Perth suburb or Cottesloe on Saturday.
I think it was a cheap fun.
We should send Bronwyn Bishop to UK to show how it should be done.
In a helicopter...
Regards,
Krzysztof
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