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Byker
2019-08-25 02:35:16 UTC
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Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.

Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.

Before the covfefe even hits the floor Donald Trump Jr. runs in 2024.

Eight years of Don Jr. then maybe Eric wants a shot.

Seems like the Trump Train May run well into 2040.

And Barron Trump will be old enough to run in 2044.

If the best Dems can do is Joe Biden, that is really pathetic.

By then we could just buy Mexico.

Hell, we could buy Canada too. Can’t be that much.

Just want to let the Libs know, this Socialist/Communist idea sucks.

So, if you really want to see a lot more Trumps, just keep it up...
Dhu on Gate
2019-08-25 05:23:13 UTC
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Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
Before the covfefe even hits the floor Donald Trump Jr. runs in 2024.
Eight years of Don Jr. then maybe Eric wants a shot.
Seems like the Trump Train May run well into 2040.
And Barron Trump will be old enough to run in 2044.
If the best Dems can do is Joe Biden, that is really pathetic.
By then we could just buy Mexico.
Hell, we could buy Canada too. Can’t be that much.
Keep yer fake poker chips. Yer gonna need them.

Dhu
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Just want to let the Libs know, this Socialist/Communist idea sucks.
So, if you really want to see a lot more Trumps, just keep it up...
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C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)

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M I Wakefield
2019-08-25 14:34:56 UTC
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Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".

Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.

And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.

Andrew Coyne called him "President Caligula" ... which was positively
glowing compared to what Rick Wilson wrote:

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-the-great-crackup-20190825-3m5btyfh3bd4jaw4dkzmgcxjfm-story.html
Post by Byker
Before the covfefe even hits the floor Donald Trump Jr. runs in 2024.
Eight years of Don Jr. then maybe Eric wants a shot.
Seems like the Trump Train May run well into 2040.
And Barron Trump will be old enough to run in 2044.
Maybe you should cut back on the hallucinogens ...
Petzl
2019-08-25 21:03:36 UTC
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Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.

Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Greenlandic's need to consider it's future not Denmark.
This proposed deal would be a positive opportunity for both the USA
and
Greenlandic's

Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them) would immediately become
multimillionaires (in US dollars) and American citizens. They would
still be allowed to live in Greenland or wherever they then wished.
Would you turn that down?
Post by M I Wakefield
Andrew Coyne called him "President Caligula" ... which was positively
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-the-great-crackup-20190825-3m5btyfh3bd4jaw4dkzmgcxjfm-story.html
Another "word police" media feeding mushrooms
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Post by Byker
Before the covfefe even hits the floor Donald Trump Jr. runs in 2024.
Eight years of Don Jr. then maybe Eric wants a shot.
Seems like the Trump Train May run well into 2040.
And Barron Trump will be old enough to run in 2044.
Maybe you should cut back on the hallucinogens ...
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Petzl
Good exists all around us and sometimes those that the media love to hate, are the ones actually contributing to their community and helping those in need. It is unfortunate that the media choose to ignore this, and continue their hate attacks on these people.

Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200 workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims. He contributed to Americans well before he had Presidential aspirations but you will not be able to find any substantial reporting on this by mainstream media.

Trump must be congratulated for keeping his election promises,
a rarity in modern politics.
The paradox of his administration is why senior people have
been appointed who do not support his bold anti-establishment
policy agenda,especially in winding back
USA foreign intervention
Ördög
2019-08-25 21:58:47 UTC
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"M I Wakefield"
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Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ...
only 36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove,
there aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
WANK-WANK!
You've been Faux-news-Murdoched and Breitbarted again, Petz dear!
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Greenlandic's need to consider it's future not Denmark.
You have no fucking idea about international treatise nor sovereignty.
This proposed deal would be a positive opportunity for .....
...Trump's growing megalomania. Full stop!
Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them) would immediately become
multimillionaires (in US dollars) and American citizens.
Running on Goonbag fumes again, Petz dear?
Post by M I Wakefield
"President Caligula"
LOL! Fitting description.


On the other hand:
the alt-right faecal media feeding your ilk mushrooms and you consume
them by the bucket loads, Petz dear!

Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with idiots like the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporter
Petz and Felix, the alt-right nut-job/Xtian fundy apologist Lion's farts,
the LNP combat-trolls platoon consisting of Little Johnny Howard Family
of sockpuppets as well as that septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb.
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Dechucka
2019-08-25 22:12:27 UTC
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Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
Fran
2019-08-25 22:36:09 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL. Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head. He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to sell
him Greenland.
Ördög
2019-08-25 23:07:36 UTC
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It was written by Fran
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Post by M I Wakefield
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years. Maybe
after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ...
only 36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62%
disapprove, there aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL. Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head. He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to sell
him Greenland.
Apropos "President Caligula".

See this old article for fun (or horror):
*Donald Trump has 'fascinating parallels' with Caligula, says historian*

/Tom Holland tells Hay festival the notorious Roman emperor was a
conscious populist like the US presidential candidate/
Source:
<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/01/donald-trump-has-
fascinating-parallels-with-caligula-says-historian>
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Ördög, without any apologies
Fran
2019-08-26 02:17:28 UTC
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It was written by Fran
Post by Fran
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Post by M I Wakefield
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years. Maybe
after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ...
only 36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62%
disapprove, there aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL. Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head. He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to sell
him Greenland.
Apropos "President Caligula".
I'll swap you this article about his fitness for office:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/25/media/donald-trump-job-fitness-press/index.html
Post by Ördög
*Donald Trump has 'fascinating parallels' with Caligula, says historian*
/Tom Holland tells Hay festival the notorious Roman emperor was a
conscious populist like the US presidential candidate/
<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/01/donald-trump-has-
fascinating-parallels-with-caligula-says-historian>
Yep. Trump too is morally and ethically bankrupt but I suspect Caligula
was a bit smarter than Trump who is an absolute mental pygmy (or
suffering from dementia or some sort of substance abuse that has rotted
whatever he may once have had by way of a brain)

I do get the impression that the tide is turning and Trump is not as
popular as he once was. And it's not before time that such a thing
happened.
Dechucka
2019-08-26 02:25:59 UTC
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Apropos "President Caligula".
*Donald Trump has 'fascinating parallels' with Caligula, says historian*
The bloke didn't mention both had a crook/deformed foot
Dechucka
2019-08-25 23:11:15 UTC
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Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to sell
him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
M I Wakefield
2019-08-25 23:23:31 UTC
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LOL. Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head. He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to sell
him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country I
can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
I can hardly wait for Petzie's stirring defense of Trump nuking hurricanes.
Fran
2019-08-26 02:23:32 UTC
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LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell > him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent
country I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their
lot with the USA
I can hardly wait for Petzie's stirring defense of Trump nuking hurricanes.
Excuse me while I just go and have a quiet vomit in anticipation of the
sort of idiot reply the pretzel will give.....
Petzl
2019-08-26 04:02:59 UTC
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Post by Fran
LOL. Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head. He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to sell
him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country I
can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
I can hardly wait for Petzie's stirring defense of Trump nuking hurricanes.
Still reading made up crap designed to feed mushrooms.
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Petzl
The Donald succeeding as president in face of Left media Trump Derangement Syndrome.
These people need help!
The lefties are all there trying to pile their crap on Trump saying he's no good.
Here's a bloke who has made a fortune in the toughest property market in the world, Manhattan.
He was top rating with his apprentice show, in the toughest TV market in the world the United States.
He beat all those Governors, Senators and sons of Presidents in the presidents primaries
for the Republican party, then he beat the revered Clinton machine.
He has raised a beautiful family, his children are a wonderful tribute to him,
"they all" say he is a hopeless failure?
On top of that he's married to Miss World.
So what have you got to do in life,
what have you got to do by these rotten miserable mongrels
in "our" media on the left, what have you got to do?

The Clinton and Bush era of the last 30 years is about to come
to an end in light of the sudden Saudi Arabian purge of Clinton
and Bush allies.
M I Wakefield
2019-08-26 13:18:20 UTC
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Here's a bloke who has made a fortune in the toughest property market in
the world, Manhattan.
Here's a bloke who bankrupted a casino.

...
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On top of that he's married to Miss World.
No, he's really not.
Fran
2019-08-26 02:22:22 UTC
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Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
God no! They'd lose too much if they tied themselves to the US. Just
look at Guam or Puerto Rico.
Petzl
2019-08-26 04:06:49 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
God no! They'd lose too much if they tied themselves to the US. Just
look at Guam or Puerto Rico.
Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them smaller than my suburb in Sydney)
would immediately become multimillionaires (in US dollars) and
American citizens. They would still be allowed to live in Greenland or
wherever they then wished.
Would you turn that down?
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Petzl
Good exists all around us and sometimes those that the media love to hate, are the ones actually contributing to their community and helping those in need. It is unfortunate that the media choose to ignore this, and continue their hate attacks on these people.

Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200 workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims. He contributed to Americans well before he had Presidential aspirations but you will not be able to find any substantial reporting on this by mainstream media.

Trump must be congratulated for keeping his election promises,
a rarity in modern politics.
The paradox of his administration is why senior people have
been appointed who do not support his bold anti-establishment
policy agenda,especially in winding back
USA foreign intervention
Dechucka
2019-08-26 04:58:41 UTC
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Post by Fran
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
God no! They'd lose too much if they tied themselves to the US. Just
look at Guam or Puerto Rico.
Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them smaller than my suburb in Sydney)
would immediately become multimillionaires (in US dollars) and
American citizens. They would still be allowed to live in Greenland or
wherever they then wished.
Australia? Why?
Post by Petzl
Would you turn that down?
Why would anyone want to be American?
Leper
2019-08-26 05:52:50 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 10:34:56 -0400, "M I Wakefield"
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Byker
Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with
the
USA
God no!  They'd lose too much if they tied themselves to the US.  Just
look at Guam or Puerto Rico.
Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them smaller than my suburb in Sydney)
would immediately become multimillionaires (in US dollars) and
American citizens. They would still be allowed to live in Greenland or
wherever they then wished.
Australia? Why?
Post by Petzl
Would you turn that down?
Why would anyone want to be American?
To avoid having a cocksuker like you as a fellow citizen.
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Machiavelli wrote:It is necessary for the state to deal in lies and half
truths,
because people are made up of lies and half truths. Even Princes.' And
certainly, by definition all Ambassadors and politicians
Dechucka
2019-08-26 05:54:53 UTC
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To avoid having a cocksuker like you as a fellow citizen.
is a 'cocksuker' a septic thing?
Petzl
2019-08-26 05:56:35 UTC
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Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
God no! They'd lose too much if they tied themselves to the US. Just
look at Guam or Puerto Rico.
Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them smaller than my suburb in Sydney)
would immediately become multimillionaires (in US dollars) and
American citizens. They would still be allowed to live in Greenland or
wherever they then wished.
Australia? Why?
Post by Petzl
Would you turn that down?
probably a Schloss in Switzerland with servants
Loading Image...
https://is.gd/oqXWnj
Post by Dechucka
Why would anyone want to be American?
https://is.gd/kCGccg
As opposed to playing plop in Greenland
https://is.gd/YtOEhC
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Petzl
The Donald succeeding as president in face of Left media Trump Derangement Syndrome.
These people need help!
The lefties are all there trying to pile their crap on Trump saying he's no good.
Here's a bloke who has made a fortune in the toughest property market in the world, Manhattan.
He was top rating with his apprentice show, in the toughest TV market in the world the United States.
He beat all those Governors, Senators and sons of Presidents in the presidents primaries
for the Republican party, then he beat the revered Clinton machine.
He has raised a beautiful family, his children are a wonderful tribute to him,
"they all" say he is a hopeless failure?
On top of that he's married to Miss World.
So what have you got to do in life,
what have you got to do by these rotten miserable mongrels
in "our" media on the left, what have you got to do?

The Clinton and Bush era of the last 30 years is about to come
to an end in light of the sudden Saudi Arabian purge of Clinton
and Bush allies.
Dechucka
2019-08-26 06:29:29 UTC
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Trumps may control the White House for the next 25 years.
Maybe after President Trump wins another four years in 2020.
I'd put better odds on "Monkeys flying out your butt".
Trump is having a King George III-level meltdown before our eyes ... only
36% approve of the job he's done so far ... and as 62% disapprove, there
aren't a lot of undecided voters to pick up.
And that poll was before the Greenland fiasco.
You a CNN mushroom get fed bulldust while kept in the dark.
Greenland is NOT owned by Denmark it is administered by them
Rather stupid of Trump to ask Denmark to sell part of it's kingdom then.
LOL.  Sadly that comment will just go right over poor old pretzel's
head.  He'll have no idea why you mentioned Trump asked Denmark to
sell him Greenland.
Given Greenlands slow movement towards being a fully independent country
I can't see the people being that keen on throwing in their lot with the USA
God no! They'd lose too much if they tied themselves to the US. Just
look at Guam or Puerto Rico.
Every Greenlandic (56,000 of them smaller than my suburb in Sydney)
would immediately become multimillionaires (in US dollars) and
American citizens. They would still be allowed to live in Greenland or
wherever they then wished.
Australia? Why?
Post by Petzl
Would you turn that down?
probably a Schloss in Switzerland with servants
https://www.european-traveler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Schloss-Oberhofen-Castle-on-Lake-Thun19.jpg
https://is.gd/oqXWnj
If that what turns you on?
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Post by Dechucka
Why would anyone want to be American?
https://is.gd/kCGccg
As opposed to playing plop in Greenland
https://is.gd/YtOEhC
is.gd? really you expect me to click on a link like that?
M I Wakefield
2019-08-26 13:24:07 UTC
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Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that he
saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never happened
either.

Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Petzl
2019-08-26 20:18:37 UTC
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Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that he
saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never happened
either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes

Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
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Petzl
The primary purpose of the memory hole
is to dispose of all unwanted documents.
Now, if you're a top-tier member of the
ruling Inner Party and you want to keep
the masses docile and oppressed without
actually realizing they're oppressed,
what's one thing you'll want to do?
That's right - dispose of any evidence
that makes you or Big Brother look less
all-knowing than you want people to think
you are.
And that's where the memory holes come in.
Dechucka
2019-08-26 20:25:11 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that he
saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never happened
either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
Petzl
2019-08-26 21:15:07 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that he
saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never happened
either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
A Egyptian friend of mine and his neighbours lived near Lakemba
Mosque and heard them before and the glee after the attack.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
DemoRat paper you have been "NYTimed" stop reading drivel.
--
Petzl
Score So Far-

TRUMP:
-Unemployment Rate
-GDP
-Wage Growth
-# Blacks Employed
-# Hispanics Employed
-# Women Employed

OBAMA:
-Slick Speaking
-School Shootings
-ISIS Wins
-Homegrown Terror Events
Dechucka
2019-08-26 21:27:25 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
A Egyptian friend of mine and his neighbours lived near Lakemba
Mosque and heard them before and the glee after the attack.
You're getting crazier by the minute. Did you report this to ASIO on
your secret bat-phone via your personal hot-line number? Maybe you
should have taken your tank and grenades down there.
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
DemoRat paper you have been "NYTimed" stop reading drivel.
Pez at least it isn't just voices in your head which is where you get
your info. IF you bothered to/could read the article you would see each
of your claims dissected and disproved. As an eg. Trump did not have 200
employees in New York.

He couldn't have gone down to ground zero his heel spurs would have
stopped him.
Petzl
2019-08-26 21:41:39 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
A Egyptian friend of mine and his neighbours lived near Lakemba
Mosque and heard them before and the glee after the attack.
You're getting crazier by the minute. Did you report this to ASIO on
your secret bat-phone via your personal hot-line number? Maybe you
should have taken your tank and grenades down there.
Also reported by media
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
DemoRat paper you have been "NYTimed" stop reading drivel.
Pez at least it isn't just voices in your head which is where you get
your info. IF you bothered to/could read the article you would see each
of your claims dissected and disproved. As an eg. Trump did not have 200
employees in New York.
He couldn't have gone down to ground zero his heel spurs would have
stopped him.
Rudolph Giuliani Mayor of New York verifies this but disputes Trumps
numbers,
--
Petzl
A perfect picture of all that's wrong with lefties -
I'm miserable & someone else is to blame.

If the Left so strongly supports 'diversity'
why do they spend so much time trying to close down
opinions different to their own?

'Diversity' is the new Orwellian doublespeak,
a Leftist propaganda tool to disguise the fact
they are trying to create a more uniform,
homogenous society, in their own image.
Dechucka
2019-08-26 21:57:59 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
A Egyptian friend of mine and his neighbours lived near Lakemba
Mosque and heard them before and the glee after the attack.
You're getting crazier by the minute. Did you report this to ASIO on
your secret bat-phone via your personal hot-line number? Maybe you
should have taken your tank and grenades down there.
Also reported by media
No it wasn't.
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
DemoRat paper you have been "NYTimed" stop reading drivel.
Pez at least it isn't just voices in your head which is where you get
your info. IF you bothered to/could read the article you would see each
of your claims dissected and disproved. As an eg. Trump did not have 200
employees in New York.
He couldn't have gone down to ground zero his heel spurs would have
stopped him.
Rudolph Giuliani Mayor of New York verifies this but disputes Trumps
numbers,
So the 200 you claimed was bullshit BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T 200 TRUMP
EMPLOYEES IN NY at the time. BTW the last thing first responders need in
a S&R scenario is lots of untrained people flapping around.

BTW IF IT WAS TRUE love that Trump sent his minions he didn't go
himself, heel spurs playing up again when faced with danger?
Petzl
2019-08-26 22:18:41 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
A Egyptian friend of mine and his neighbours lived near Lakemba
Mosque and heard them before and the glee after the attack.
You're getting crazier by the minute. Did you report this to ASIO on
your secret bat-phone via your personal hot-line number? Maybe you
should have taken your tank and grenades down there.
Also reported by media
No it wasn't.
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
DemoRat paper you have been "NYTimed" stop reading drivel.
Pez at least it isn't just voices in your head which is where you get
your info. IF you bothered to/could read the article you would see each
of your claims dissected and disproved. As an eg. Trump did not have 200
employees in New York.
He couldn't have gone down to ground zero his heel spurs would have
stopped him.
Rudolph Giuliani Mayor of New York verifies this but disputes Trumps
numbers,
So the 200 you claimed was bullshit BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T 200 TRUMP
EMPLOYEES IN NY at the time. BTW the last thing first responders need in
a S&R scenario is lots of untrained people flapping around.
What makes you think they would be untrained?
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using. Same applies to Mining rescue teams.
Post by Dechucka
BTW IF IT WAS TRUE love that Trump sent his minions he didn't go
himself, heel spurs playing up again when faced with danger?
He sent them financed and organised.
--
Petzl
The Donald succeeding as president in face of Left media Trump Derangement Syndrome.
These people need help!
The lefties are all there trying to pile their crap on Trump saying he's no good.
Here's a bloke who has made a fortune in the toughest property market in the world, Manhattan.
He was top rating with his apprentice show, in the toughest TV market in the world the United States.
He beat all those Governors, Senators and sons of Presidents in the presidents primaries
for the Republican party, then he beat the revered Clinton machine.
He has raised a beautiful family, his children are a wonderful tribute to him,
"they all" say he is a hopeless failure?
On top of that he's married to Miss World.
So what have you got to do in life,
what have you got to do by these rotten miserable mongrels
in "our" media on the left, what have you got to do?

The Clinton and Bush era of the last 30 years is about to come
to an end in light of the sudden Saudi Arabian purge of Clinton
and Bush allies.
Dechucka
2019-08-26 22:28:29 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
So the 200 you claimed was bullshit BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T 200 TRUMP
EMPLOYEES IN NY at the time. BTW the last thing first responders need in
a S&R scenario is lots of untrained people flapping around.
What makes you think they would be untrained?
The dozen or so people that Trump had in his office as he tweeted were
office workers. He didn't send anybody and he didn't go himself as he lied.
Post by Petzl
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using.
Please expand on this in particular comparing and contrasting their
equipment and training.
Post by Petzl
Same applies to Mining rescue teams.
Would this be the teams from NSW Mine Rescue?
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
BTW IF IT WAS TRUE love that Trump sent his minions he didn't go
himself, heel spurs playing up again when faced with danger?
He sent them financed and organised.
He didn't send anybody and he didn't go himself as he claimed but did
muse:-“40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in
downtown Manhattan and it was actually, before the World Trade Center,
was the tallest — and then, when they built the World Trade Center, it
became known as the second tallest,” Mr. Trump said. “And now it’s the
tallest.” BTW he got that wrong as well
Petzl
2019-08-26 23:25:01 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using.
Please expand on this in particular comparing and contrasting their
equipment and training.
Both worked well together, the training on site was with actual gas
fires, example, a large LPG storage was set on fire using gas and
teams have to walk through the blaze using fire hoses (water pressure
400 PSI) set on spray to get to a off valve, Also have to go through
Smoke rooms wearing breathing equipment and "rescue" people from rooms
inside.

Then there is the ambulance training as well as, use of oxygen,
defibrillators, etc.

Downturn of Sydney industry now has teams sent to Brisbane for
training
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge
Dechucka
2019-08-27 00:13:25 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using.
Please expand on this in particular comparing and contrasting their
equipment and training.
Both worked well together, the training on site was with actual gas
fires, example, a large LPG storage was set on fire using gas and
teams have to walk through the blaze using fire hoses (water pressure
400 PSI) set on spray to get to a off valve,
You are kidding aren't you? This is all done by the RFS and we're
volunteers.

In the RFS's basic qualification BF we do 3 and 5 man gas attacks. Do
them more in VF, I prefer the triple purpose nozzle/breach but most use
a pistol grip to give the protection spray. Must admit in all my years
in the RFS I've never done one for real
Post by Petzl
Also have to go through
Smoke rooms wearing breathing equipment and "rescue" people from rooms
inside.
Once again our CABA crews do that, non-CABA crews are trained to do it
in a pinch.
Post by Petzl
Then there is the ambulance training as well as, use of oxygen,
defibrillators, etc.
That falls under the delightfully called FA/ART course that ALL my
call-out crew does. First aid/Advanced resuscitation techniques ( which
includes use of oxygen) AEDs are carried on all RFS vehicles.

F&R are more highly trained in Hazmat and structure fires than my little
old Village Brigade and the Ambos obviously trained better in resus etc
but it seems you're talking BULLSHIT again
Petzl
2019-08-27 01:11:02 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using.
Please expand on this in particular comparing and contrasting their
equipment and training.
Both worked well together, the training on site was with actual gas
fires, example, a large LPG storage was set on fire using gas and
teams have to walk through the blaze using fire hoses (water pressure
400 PSI) set on spray to get to a off valve,
You are kidding aren't you? This is all done by the RFS and we're
volunteers.
In the RFS's basic qualification BF we do 3 and 5 man gas attacks. Do
them more in VF, I prefer the triple purpose nozzle/breach but most use
a pistol grip to give the protection spray. Must admit in all my years
in the RFS I've never done one for real
Post by Petzl
Also have to go through
Smoke rooms wearing breathing equipment and "rescue" people from rooms
inside.
Once again our CABA crews do that, non-CABA crews are trained to do it
in a pinch.
Post by Petzl
Then there is the ambulance training as well as, use of oxygen,
defibrillators, etc.
That falls under the delightfully called FA/ART course that ALL my
call-out crew does. First aid/Advanced resuscitation techniques ( which
includes use of oxygen) AEDs are carried on all RFS vehicles.
F&R are more highly trained in Hazmat and structure fires than my little
old Village Brigade and the Ambos obviously trained better in resus etc
but it seems you're talking BULLSHIT again
To work on site first you are inducted in basic BERT (Botany Emergency
Response Team). Then there are permanent BERT members who are Super
"Firemen".

I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
--
Petzl
A perfect picture of all that's wrong with lefties -
I'm miserable & someone else is to blame.

If the Left so strongly supports 'diversity'
why do they spend so much time trying to close down
opinions different to their own?

'Diversity' is the new Orwellian doublespeak,
a Leftist propaganda tool to disguise the fact
they are trying to create a more uniform,
homogenous society, in their own image.
Dechucka
2019-08-27 01:39:08 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using.
Please expand on this in particular comparing and contrasting their
equipment and training.
Both worked well together, the training on site was with actual gas
fires, example, a large LPG storage was set on fire using gas and
teams have to walk through the blaze using fire hoses (water pressure
400 PSI) set on spray to get to a off valve,
You are kidding aren't you? This is all done by the RFS and we're
volunteers.
In the RFS's basic qualification BF we do 3 and 5 man gas attacks. Do
them more in VF, I prefer the triple purpose nozzle/breach but most use
a pistol grip to give the protection spray. Must admit in all my years
in the RFS I've never done one for real
Post by Petzl
Also have to go through
Smoke rooms wearing breathing equipment and "rescue" people from rooms
inside.
Once again our CABA crews do that, non-CABA crews are trained to do it
in a pinch.
Post by Petzl
Then there is the ambulance training as well as, use of oxygen,
defibrillators, etc.
That falls under the delightfully called FA/ART course that ALL my
call-out crew does. First aid/Advanced resuscitation techniques ( which
includes use of oxygen) AEDs are carried on all RFS vehicles.
F&R are more highly trained in Hazmat and structure fires than my little
old Village Brigade and the Ambos obviously trained better in resus etc
but it seems you're talking BULLSHIT again
To work on site first you are inducted in basic BERT (Botany Emergency
Response Team). Then there are permanent BERT members who are Super
"Firemen".
Whoopy fucking do. You have produced nothing to show that they are
better trained or equipped then the F&R esp their specialized units
Post by Petzl
I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
Fran
2019-08-27 01:54:46 UTC
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Post by Petzl
I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
You're and offensive little maggot pretzel. And of course you are lying
yet again as you would have no idea what he and his crew do. At least
he does get out and work within his community. All you do is sit there
in your tin foil hat and lie about everything including owning offensive
weapons banned under our laws. Get a life and grow up.
Post by Dechucka
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
Daniel65
2020-09-29 11:25:20 UTC
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Post by Petzl
I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
AND YOU DO IT FOR FREE!!

Thank you and your mates!
--
Daniel
Petzl
2020-09-29 22:26:13 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
AND YOU DO IT FOR FREE!!
Thank you and your mates!
You are not replying to anything I wrote?
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
Ördög
2020-09-30 03:35:37 UTC
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Post by Petzl
You are not replying to anything I wrote?
Oh, but I do.
Your moronic sig needs to be put out of its pathetic misery:

~~~
~~~
Post by Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Said Petz to image in his bathroom mirror before he picked up his secret
bat-phone to ASIO informing them that he is intending to go for a joyride
on his personal tank after having a good soak in his mega Jacuzzi,
brewing up something on his super-duper espresso machine and then playing
a little with his machine guns, his grenades, his plastic toy soldiers,
etc...etc...etc.
Post by Petzl
Ordog the Armchair communist
Yes, I do have an armchair. I even have more than one. And yes I am a
communist. So your point is what exactly? What is so unique about those
armchairs?
BTW if you want an analogy to your backfiring insult then consider the
fact that you are a Shitboxville park-bench neo-Nazi alt-right wanker.
(Note that I am not intending to insult the park-bench).

Rest of that absurd shit in your sig is not even worth responding to.
--
Ördög - the real one (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
- idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham
- LNP propaganda sock clones of B.J. Foster

- LJH /Little Johnny Howard family of sock and meat puppets/
/i.e. James, Jonz, John, Jane, Mag00, + stolen nyms,
& whatever.../

- septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Daniel65
2020-09-30 12:13:48 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:25:20 +1000, Daniel65
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
AND YOU DO IT FOR FREE!!
Thank you and your mates!
You are not replying to anything I wrote?
Sorry!! Am I mistaken in my thinking that it is DeChucka who gets out
and actively/Professionally (though unpaid) fights Bushfires??

If so, why do I have to reply to your dribble, Petzl??
--
Daniel
Petzl
2020-09-30 20:27:21 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:25:20 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
AND YOU DO IT FOR FREE!!
Thank you and your mates!
You are not replying to anything I wrote?
Sorry!! Am I mistaken in my thinking that it is DeChucka who gets out
and actively/Professionally (though unpaid) fights Bushfires??
If so, why do I have to reply to your dribble, Petzl??
Your attributions indicated I wrote what you replied to?
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/CYq6lb5hjac/m/6Fmt1UXJCQAJ>
--
Petzl
Every time I speak of the haters and losers
I do so with great love and affection.
They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!

The loudest whiners on Trump's withdrawal
from Paris Climate Change
are those who profit the most (like Al Gore).

Donald Trump
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/516382177798680576?lang=en
Daniel65
2020-10-01 11:16:52 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:13:48 +1000, Daniel65
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:25:20 +1000, Daniel65
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I have seen your team, quite frankley are pathetic pot bellied
no-nothings, often end up needing to be rescued themselves.
That's us pathetic and fat bellied but willing to answer the pager/ROVER
call to save lives and property, or to help the cops in S&R or the SES
with storm damage etc. Yep it would be easier for RFS members to sit on
a park bench sucking on a goon-bag like you but we get out to do our
best 'for our community'in our local area, out of area/interstate and
overseas.
AND YOU DO IT FOR FREE!!
Thank you and your mates!
You are not replying to anything I wrote?
Sorry!! Am I mistaken in my thinking that it is DeChucka who gets out
and actively/Professionally (though unpaid) fights Bushfires??
If so, why do I have to reply to your dribble, Petzl??
Your attributions indicated I wrote what you replied to?
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/CYq6lb5hjac/m/6Fmt1UXJCQAJ>
No!! If you look at the attributes up above in this post in
aus.politics, you will see that ...

1. I am replying to a post that YOU, Petzl, made at 6:27 AM on 1st Oct.
2. That post was a reply to my post at 10:14 PM on 30th Sept.
3. My post was a reply to your post at 8:26 AM on 30th Sept
4. Your post was a reply to My post at 9:25 PM on 29th Sept
5. My post was a reply to DeChucka's post from 11:39 AM on 27th August,
*2019* (so over a year old!!)
6. DeChucka's post had been in response to a post of yours made 11:11
AM on 27th Aug 2019.

So my post was a response to DeChucka's post, not your post, Peztl!!

If Google Groups shows anything different, Google Groups is (SHOCK!!
HORROR!!) WRONG!!
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Daniel
M I Wakefield
2019-08-27 01:15:42 UTC
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So the 200 you claimed was bullshit BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T 200 TRUMP
EMPLOYEES IN NY at the time. BTW the last thing first responders need in
a S&R scenario is lots of untrained people flapping around.
What makes you think they would be untrained?
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in all
fields.
Except that Trump was not in any way, shape, or form, "involved in
petrochemicals". He was a real-estate developer, reality TV star, and
(failed) casino owner.
Good cop
2019-08-27 03:58:16 UTC
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So the 200 you claimed was bullshit BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T 200 TRUMP
EMPLOYEES IN NY at the time. BTW the last thing first responders need
in a S&R scenario is lots of untrained people flapping around.
What makes you think they would be untrained?
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Except that Trump was not in any way, shape, or form, "involved in
petrochemicals". He was a real-estate developer, reality TV star, and
(failed) casino owner.
LOL!
Of course, such facts won't deter determined alt-right wankers spew more
and more nonsensicle bullshit into Usenet.
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That was a good!
Daniel65
2020-09-28 11:49:04 UTC
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Pez at least it isn't just voices in your head which is where you get
your info. IF you bothered to/could read the article you would see each
of your claims dissected and disproved. As an eg. Trump did not have 200
employees in New York.
He couldn't have gone down to ground zero his heel spurs would have
stopped him.
Rudolph Giuliani Mayor of New York verifies this but disputes Trumps
numbers,
So the 200 you claimed was bullshit BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T 200 TRUMP
EMPLOYEES IN NY at the time. BTW the last thing first responders need in
a S&R scenario is lots of untrained people flapping around.
What makes you think they would be untrained?
Being involved in petrochemicals their teams are VERY well trained in
all fields.
Yes, sure, very talented, trained, people ... but are they then employed
AS OFFICE STAFF IN TRUMP BUILDINGS?? Or, if you like, does Donald Trump
have his Office stall trained up in S&R procedures!

'Cause that's what YOU Petzl, seem to be suggesting and what DeChucka
was questioning you about!
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Have seen both Sydney Fire Teams and Petrochemical teams working
together, the private teams have much better equipment than the state
government using. Same applies to Mining rescue teams.
Good on them!!
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Daniel
Fran
2019-08-27 01:13:00 UTC
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Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
A Egyptian friend of mine and his neighbours  lived near Lakemba
Mosque and heard them before and the glee after the attack.
You're getting crazier by the minute. Did you report this to ASIO on
your secret bat-phone via your personal hot-line number? Maybe you
should have taken your tank and grenades down there.
You forgot to mention that machine gun pretzel say he owns. He could
have taken that down there too.
Fran
2019-08-27 01:11:05 UTC
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Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't.  Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't).  Oh, and claiming
that he
saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never happened
either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-check.html
The one thing that the pretzel and the Donald have in common is that if
their lips are moving, they are telling a lie.
Ördög
2019-08-27 04:00:08 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over
200 workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't.  Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had
the tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't).  Oh, and
claiming that he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey
... that never happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
They were not
Post by Petzl
Seems "your" media is feeding their mushrooms and creating
memory-holes
your media comes via leaks in your tin-foil hat
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Just to put a few facts into this discussion. Trump is as delusional as pez
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/trump-9-11-fact-
check.html
Post by Fran
The one thing that the pretzel and the Donald have in common is that if
their lips are moving, they are telling a lie.
:)))
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Ördög, without any apologies
M I Wakefield
2019-08-26 20:56:11 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that
he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never
happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
No, they weren't.
Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Nope. Never happened. Tin foil goes "shiny-side out", Pretzel.
Petzl
2019-08-26 21:39:11 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that
he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never
happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
No, they weren't.
Reported by media Moslem Taxi drivers honking horns in Melbourne,
Sydney, Adelaide. Parties outside Mosques. Then the memory hole was
placed on media.
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Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Trump did send employees to Ground Zero, to help find and identify
victims.
Nope. Never happened. Tin foil goes "shiny-side out", Pretzel.
Rudolph Giuliani Mayor of New York verifies this but disputes Trumps
numbers,
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Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2019-08-26 22:00:20 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that
he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never
happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
No, they weren't.
Reported by media Moslem Taxi drivers honking horns in Melbourne,
Sydney, Adelaide. Parties outside Mosques. Then the memory hole was
placed on media.
How did all these people know before the act that it was going to
happen? Wouldn't there have been complaints about the noise as it
happened early in the morning our time.
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Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Did you tell the authorities..
Petzl
2019-08-26 22:32:57 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that
he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never
happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
No, they weren't.
Reported by media Moslem Taxi drivers honking horns in Melbourne,
Sydney, Adelaide. Parties outside Mosques. Then the memory hole was
placed on media.
How did all these people know before the act that it was going to
happen? Wouldn't there have been complaints about the noise as it
happened early in the morning our time.
In Sydney if you don't want police to come just yell Alli Akbar.
But yes Lakemba Mosque knew of the attack beforehand and were told so
by Saudi Arabia.
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Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Did you tell the authorities..
To many screaching Ali Akbar as we know the police go into hiding'

Yeterdays news, people killed by "NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller"
is now covered up!
https://www.9news.com.au/national/sydney-siege-snipers-lindt-cafe-lawsuit-settled-news-update/0d844a3d-fdc8-467e-9641-e570810a8d43
https://is.gd/NwaVZ2
NSW Police have settled a lawsuit brought by a sniper over the
failures of command during the Lindt Cafe siege, The Daily Telegraph
reports.
In the lawsuit, the chief sniper alleged he and fellow officers were
prevented from doing their jobs and the lives of cafe manager Tori
Johnson and barrister Katrina Dawson could have been saved.
The civil action filed in April was set for a public hearing next year
but has now been settled "confidentially", the newspaper reports.
The officer, who can only be identified as Sierra 3-1, alleged in a
30-page affidavit he had suffered psychological trauma as a result of
the decisions taken by his superiors during the siege on December 15,
2014 in which 17 people were taken hostage.
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Petzl

Australian Politician
when you’re driving along a country road
and you come across a fence post with a turtle
balanced on top,
that’s called a fencepost turtle

You know he didn’t get up there by himself,
he definitely doesn’t belong up there,
he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there,
and you just gotta wonder what kind of dill
put him up there in the first place!
Dechucka
2019-08-26 22:42:23 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that
he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never
happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
No, they weren't.
Reported by media Moslem Taxi drivers honking horns in Melbourne,
Sydney, Adelaide. Parties outside Mosques. Then the memory hole was
placed on media.
How did all these people know before the act that it was going to
happen? Wouldn't there have been complaints about the noise as it
happened early in the morning our time.
In Sydney if you don't want police to come just yell Alli Akbar.
Weren't they yelling 'ali akbar' as they were escorted through the red
lights to Cronulla Beach? Seems to be a bit of a problem with your theory.
Post by Petzl
But yes Lakemba Mosque knew of the attack beforehand and were told so
by Saudi Arabia.
Why would Saudi Arabia break secrecy to tell the Lakemba mosque of all
groups?
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Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Did you tell the authorities..
To many screaching Ali Akbar as we know the police go into hiding'
So you didn't tell authorities about information relevant to terrorism
in Aus and the US. No statute of limitations on that. You better hope
that ASIO/AFP gets you before the CIA or you may be subject to
extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Petzl
2019-08-26 23:26:58 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Two days after the devastating 911 attacks, Donald Trump sent over 200
workers to Ground Zero, to help find and identify victims.
No he didn't. Trump's reaction to 9/11 was to boast that he now had the
tallest building in lower Manhattan (he didn't). Oh, and claiming that
he saw "thousands" of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey ... that never
happened either.
Talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" ...
Moslems were celebrating in every major capital in Australia, Lakemba
No, they weren't.
Reported by media Moslem Taxi drivers honking horns in Melbourne,
Sydney, Adelaide. Parties outside Mosques. Then the memory hole was
placed on media.
How did all these people know before the act that it was going to
happen? Wouldn't there have been complaints about the noise as it
happened early in the morning our time.
In Sydney if you don't want police to come just yell Alli Akbar.
Weren't they yelling 'ali akbar' as they were escorted through the red
lights to Cronulla Beach? Seems to be a bit of a problem with your theory.
Post by Petzl
But yes Lakemba Mosque knew of the attack beforehand and were told so
by Saudi Arabia.
Why would Saudi Arabia break secrecy to tell the Lakemba mosque of all
groups?
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Did you tell the authorities..
To many screaching Ali Akbar as we know the police go into hiding'
So you didn't tell authorities about information relevant to terrorism
in Aus and the US. No statute of limitations on that. You better hope
that ASIO/AFP gets you before the CIA or you may be subject to
extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Actually I did to my members oh parliament both State and Federal
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Petzl

Australian Politician
when you’re driving along a country road
and you come across a fence post with a turtle
balanced on top,
that’s called a fencepost turtle

You know he didn’t get up there by himself,
he definitely doesn’t belong up there,
he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there,
and you just gotta wonder what kind of dill
put him up there in the first place!
Dechucka
2019-08-27 00:15:57 UTC
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In Sydney if you don't want police to come just yell Alli Akbar.
Weren't they yelling 'ali akbar' as they were escorted through the red
lights to Cronulla Beach? Seems to be a bit of a problem with your theory.
What? No comment here?
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
But yes Lakemba Mosque knew of the attack beforehand and were told so
by Saudi Arabia.
Why would Saudi Arabia break secrecy to tell the Lakemba mosque of all
groups?
What? No comment here?
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Did you tell the authorities..
To many screaching Ali Akbar as we know the police go into hiding'
So you didn't tell authorities about information relevant to terrorism
in Aus and the US. No statute of limitations on that. You better hope
that ASIO/AFP gets you before the CIA or you may be subject to
extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Actually I did to my members oh parliament both State and Federal
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Fran
2019-08-27 01:20:19 UTC
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Post by Petzl
In Sydney if you don't want police to come just yell Alli Akbar.
Weren't they yelling 'ali akbar' as they were escorted through the red
lights to Cronulla Beach? Seems to be a bit of a problem with your theory.
What? No comment here?
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
But yes Lakemba Mosque knew of the attack beforehand and were told so
by Saudi Arabia.
Why would Saudi Arabia break secrecy to tell the Lakemba mosque of all
groups?
What? No comment here?
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Petzl
Mosque were aware of impending attack.
No, they weren't.
I have witnesses
Did you tell the authorities..
To many screaching Ali Akbar as we know the police go into hiding'
So you didn't tell authorities about information relevant to terrorism
in Aus and the US. No statute of limitations on that. You better hope
that ASIO/AFP gets you before the CIA or you may be subject to
extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Actually I did to my members oh parliament both State and Federal
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
2019-08-27 03:48:03 UTC
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Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Yep, the Leftards are just itching to put those with whom tyhey disagree into gulags.

This is why we can't ever left the Leftards get into power - it's gulags, human rights abuses, ethnic cleansing and abject poverty if you do.
Petzl
2019-08-27 04:40:09 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Yep, the Leftards are just itching to put those with whom tyhey disagree into gulags.
This is why we can't ever left the Leftards get into power - it's gulags, human rights abuses, ethnic cleansing and abject poverty if you do.
And back to using candles. instead of electricity.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-22/nsw-vic-blackout-risk-if-power-supply-not-improved-aemo-warns/11436518
https://is.gd/IAZPEO
More than a million Victorian households are at risk of being without
power this summer during extreme heat if coal and gas plants are not
returned to service in time for peak periods, the energy market
operator has warned.
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Petzl
A perfect picture of all that's wrong with lefties -
I'm miserable & someone else is to blame.

If the Left so strongly supports 'diversity'
why do they spend so much time trying to close down
opinions different to their own?

'Diversity' is the new Orwellian doublespeak,
a Leftist propaganda tool to disguise the fact
they are trying to create a more uniform,
homogenous society, in their own image.
Dechucka
2019-08-27 05:04:27 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:48:03 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Yep, the Leftards are just itching to put those with whom tyhey disagree into gulags.
This is why we can't ever left the Leftards get into power - it's gulags, human rights abuses, ethnic cleansing and abject poverty if you do.
And back to using candles. instead of electricity.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-22/nsw-vic-blackout-risk-if-power-supply-not-improved-aemo-warns/11436518
https://is.gd/IAZPEO
More than a million Victorian households are at risk of being without
power this summer during extreme heat if coal and gas plants are not
returned to service in time for peak periods, the energy market
operator has warned.
The worst thing that the LNP did was selling off the power system to
private enterprise. Now we have AGL's and Origion's power stations maybe
not back on-line and other like Liddel going off-line because private
enterprise won't invest. Why the hell would any company in it's right
mind invest big time when there is a complete lack of a national energy
policy under this policy free mob. Given my member Angus Taylor is the
Energy minister one can understand the policy vacuum which matches what
is between his ears.
Petzl
2019-08-27 05:32:26 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:48:03 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Yep, the Leftards are just itching to put those with whom tyhey disagree into gulags.
This is why we can't ever left the Leftards get into power - it's gulags, human rights abuses, ethnic cleansing and abject poverty if you do.
And back to using candles. instead of electricity.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-22/nsw-vic-blackout-risk-if-power-supply-not-improved-aemo-warns/11436518
https://is.gd/IAZPEO
More than a million Victorian households are at risk of being without
power this summer during extreme heat if coal and gas plants are not
returned to service in time for peak periods, the energy market
operator has warned.
The worst thing that the LNP did was selling off the power system to
private enterprise. Now we have AGL's and Origion's power stations maybe
not back on-line and other like Liddel going off-line because private
enterprise won't invest. Why the hell would any company in it's right
mind invest big time when there is a complete lack of a national energy
policy under this policy free mob. Given my member Angus Taylor is the
Energy minister one can understand the policy vacuum which matches what
is between his ears.
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing power
Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't supply
the fee remains
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Petzl

Australian Politician
when you’re driving along a country road
and you come across a fence post with a turtle
balanced on top,
that’s called a fencepost turtle

You know he didn’t get up there by himself,
he definitely doesn’t belong up there,
he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there,
and you just gotta wonder what kind of dill
put him up there in the first place!
Dechucka
2019-08-27 05:37:37 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:48:03 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Yep, the Leftards are just itching to put those with whom tyhey disagree into gulags.
This is why we can't ever left the Leftards get into power - it's gulags, human rights abuses, ethnic cleansing and abject poverty if you do.
And back to using candles. instead of electricity.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-22/nsw-vic-blackout-risk-if-power-supply-not-improved-aemo-warns/11436518
https://is.gd/IAZPEO
More than a million Victorian households are at risk of being without
power this summer during extreme heat if coal and gas plants are not
returned to service in time for peak periods, the energy market
operator has warned.
The worst thing that the LNP did was selling off the power system to
private enterprise. Now we have AGL's and Origion's power stations maybe
not back on-line and other like Liddel going off-line because private
enterprise won't invest. Why the hell would any company in it's right
mind invest big time when there is a complete lack of a national energy
policy under this policy free mob. Given my member Angus Taylor is the
Energy minister one can understand the policy vacuum which matches what
is between his ears.
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing power
Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't supply
the fee remains
Thank-you SloMo and Taylor for giving us expensive unreliable power
because you can't get off your arses and get an energy policy together.
Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
2019-08-27 06:22:39 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:48:03 -0700 (PDT), Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Who ignored you as you are a known crazy. Of course this wouldn't stop
you facing extraordinary rendition and end up being tortured in Camp X-ray
Is there any way we can make that happen? And his loonie mate Lion's
Fart could go too.
Yep, the Leftards are just itching to put those with whom tyhey disagree into gulags.
This is why we can't ever left the Leftards get into power - it's gulags, human rights abuses, ethnic cleansing and abject poverty if you do.
And back to using candles. instead of electricity.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-22/nsw-vic-blackout-risk-if-power-supply-not-improved-aemo-warns/11436518
https://is.gd/IAZPEO
More than a million Victorian households are at risk of being without
power this summer during extreme heat if coal and gas plants are not
returned to service in time for peak periods, the energy market
operator has warned.
The worst thing that the LNP did was selling off the power system to
private enterprise. Now we have AGL's and Origion's power stations maybe
not back on-line and other like Liddel going off-line because private
enterprise won't invest. Why the hell would any company in it's right
mind invest big time when there is a complete lack of a national energy
policy under this policy free mob. Given my member Angus Taylor is the
Energy minister one can understand the policy vacuum which matches what
is between his ears.
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing power
Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't supply
the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who own those foreign multinationals.
Dechucka
2019-08-27 06:54:03 UTC
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Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing power
Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't supply
the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who own those foreign multinationals.
Of course there is a reason. The LNP et al sold off the electricity
assets and the owners now want to make a profit. That is
capitalism/free-enterprise at work, you're not a marxist are you?
Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
2019-08-27 10:30:04 UTC
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snip
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing power
Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't supply
the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who own those foreign multinationals.
Of course there is a reason. The LNP et al sold off the electricity
assets and the owners now want to make a profit. That is
capitalism/free-enterprise at work, you're not a marxist are you?
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government services and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".

I am well aware that marxism and communism attempt to claim to be the source of the concept of common assets, however that is a complete lie - common assets long predate the advent of either of these extremist leftist ideologies.
Dechucka
2019-08-27 20:18:35 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing power
Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't supply
the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who own those foreign multinationals.
Of course there is a reason. The LNP et al sold off the electricity
assets and the owners now want to make a profit. That is
capitalism/free-enterprise at work, you're not a marxist are you?
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government services and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".
They have gone from being a public asset to produce electricity to a
privately owned asset designed to create wealth for it's owners via the
production of electricity .
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I am well aware that marxism and communism attempt to claim to be the source of the concept of common assets, however that is a complete lie - common assets long >predate the advent of either of these extremist leftist ideologies.
Economic theories are just that, they try to put different systems into
difference boxes, nothing to do with whether these systems existed
previously or not.
Fran
2019-08-27 22:39:44 UTC
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Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government services
and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".
They have gone from being a public asset to produce electricity to a
privately owned asset designed to create wealth for it's owners via the
production of electricity .
Indeed. We've just had an electricity buill for a property in which
no-one is living. There is some residual electricity runniing within
the house but it's a piddling usage BUT more than half the bill is for
the poles and the infrastructure. All of the poles and infrastructure
were supplied when the electricity supplier was still publicly owned.
NOW we get billed for what we and other tax payers provided! bloody
outrageous.
Dechucka
2019-08-27 22:54:10 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government
services and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".
They have gone from being a public asset to produce electricity to a
privately owned asset designed to create wealth for it's owners via
the production of electricity .
Indeed. We've just had an electricity buill for a property in which
no-one is living.  There is some residual electricity runniing within
the house but it's a piddling usage BUT more than half the bill is for
the poles and the infrastructure.  All of the poles and infrastructure
were supplied when the electricity supplier was still publicly owned.
NOW we get billed for what we and other tax payers provided!  bloody
outrageous.
As people get better at reducing electricity and water usage the
suppliers have to increase the standing costs to maintain revenue. This
of course reduces the incentive to save power and water
Ördög
2019-08-27 23:03:11 UTC
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It was written by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing
power Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't
supply the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue
out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who
own those foreign multinationals.
Of course there is a reason. The LNP et al sold off the electricity
assets and the owners now want to make a profit. That is
capitalism/free-enterprise at work, you're not a marxist are you?
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government services
and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".
They have gone from being a public asset to produce electricity to a
privately owned asset designed to create wealth for it's owners via the
production of electricity .
And precisely that is what pure (18th century) capitalism as envisaged
specially by capitalist conservative libertarians like the Fart is.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I am well aware that marxism and communism attempt to claim to be the
source of the concept of common assets, however that is a complete lie
- common assets long >predate the advent of either of these extremist
leftist ideologies.
Economic theories are just that, they try to put different systems into
difference boxes, nothing to do with whether these systems existed
previously or not.
It is only common sense to regard certain monopoly assets like an large
airport, which is open to masses of public users as a special case of
ownership. In private hands, which are guided only by the unchallengeable
profit motive, they are usually end up to be used to the detriment of
everyone except its owner/s.
Acknowledging this situation has nothing specially particularly Marxist
about it, as most people (the rational ones, that is) from all sorts of
political camps can easily understand the nature and the problems of
monopolcapitalism just as they understand how feudalism used to work in a
similar fashion.

The Farts' hatred-fixation on the political left, of course, tries to
reduce all economic and political issues down to blaming Marxism, the
communists and everyone who do not tow his far-right extremist ideology.

The fact is, Australia has never been a Marxist nor a communist country.
It is not even a social democracy. So why the fuck does almost every
single comment posted by the Fart has to end up in whinging and whining
about the horrors of Stalisnism (which is a serious departure from the
original Marxist principles or even that what Lenin was attempting to
achieve).

Not all what the contemporary political Left and Centre says or does is
based on Marxism. Not all forms of socialism are Marxist like for
instance that version which was advocated by the Fabianists.

I've concluded long ago that there can be no sane discussion on any
subjects with extremist intellectual midgets like the Farts on any
subject as it always ends up in the very same predictable outcome.

:(
--
Ördög, without any apologies
Dechucka
2019-08-27 23:19:49 UTC
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It was written by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing
power Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't
supply the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue
out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who
own those foreign multinationals.
Of course there is a reason. The LNP et al sold off the electricity
assets and the owners now want to make a profit. That is
capitalism/free-enterprise at work, you're not a marxist are you?
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government services
and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".
They have gone from being a public asset to produce electricity to a
privately owned asset designed to create wealth for it's owners via the
production of electricity .
And precisely that is what pure (18th century) capitalism as envisaged
specially by capitalist conservative libertarians like the Fart is.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I am well aware that marxism and communism attempt to claim to be the
source of the concept of common assets, however that is a complete lie
- common assets long >predate the advent of either of these extremist
leftist ideologies.
Economic theories are just that, they try to put different systems into
difference boxes, nothing to do with whether these systems existed
previously or not.
It is only common sense to regard certain monopoly assets like an large
airport, which is open to masses of public users as a special case of
ownership. In private hands, which are guided only by the unchallengeable
profit motive, they are usually end up to be used to the detriment of
everyone except its owner/s.
Acknowledging this situation has nothing specially particularly Marxist
about it, as most people (the rational ones, that is) from all sorts of
political camps can easily understand the nature and the problems of
monopolcapitalism just as they understand how feudalism used to work in a
similar fashion.
The Farts' hatred-fixation on the political left, of course, tries to
reduce all economic and political issues down to blaming Marxism, the
communists and everyone who do not tow his far-right extremist ideology.
The fact is, Australia has never been a Marxist nor a communist country.
It is not even a social democracy. So why the fuck does almost every
single comment posted by the Fart has to end up in whinging and whining
about the horrors of Stalisnism (which is a serious departure from the
original Marxist principles or even that what Lenin was attempting to
achieve).
Not all what the contemporary political Left and Centre says or does is
based on Marxism. Not all forms of socialism are Marxist like for
instance that version which was advocated by the Fabianists.
I've concluded long ago that there can be no sane discussion on any
subjects with extremist intellectual midgets like the Farts on any
subject as it always ends up in the very same predictable outcome.
Lion is like Trump/Alan Jones et al on the populist right. They rile
against socialism/Marxism/big government and are all for free enterprise
and capitalism till something goes wrong, this may be businesses/farms
going broke or businesses screwing people with services and products (a
natural consequence of capitalism). Then they want the government to do
something i.e. intervene and spend money or regulate which previously
they were against.

There is a balance
Petzl
2019-08-27 23:55:41 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Not all what the contemporary political Left and Centre says or does is
based on Marxism. Not all forms of socialism are Marxist like for
instance that version which was advocated by the Fabianists.
I've concluded long ago that there can be no sane discussion on any
subjects with extremist intellectual midgets like the Farts on any
subject as it always ends up in the very same predictable outcome.
Lion is like Trump/Alan Jones et al on the populist right. They rile
against socialism/Marxism/big government and are all for free enterprise
and capitalism till something goes wrong, this may be businesses/farms
going broke or businesses screwing people with services and products (a
natural consequence of capitalism). Then they want the government to do
something i.e. intervene and spend money or regulate which previously
they were against.
There is a balance
Your "balance" is fed to you from the Stalinist ABC
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/30-metre-banner-of-joseph-stalin-draped-in-foyer-of-abc-sydney-raises-questions-of-leftie-bias/
https://is.gd/nGXtlM
30-Metre Banner Of Joseph Stalin Draped In Foyer Of ABC Sydney Raises
Questions Of Leftie Bias
--
Petzl
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely ignorant
and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2019-08-28 00:23:27 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
There is a balance
Your "balance" is fed to you from the Stalinist ABC
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/30-metre-banner-of-joseph-stalin-draped-in-foyer-of-abc-sydney-raises-questions-of-leftie-bias/
https://is.gd/nGXtlM
30-Metre Banner Of Joseph Stalin Draped In Foyer Of ABC Sydney Raises
Questions Of Leftie Bias
You are fucking kidding? I've seen everything now
The Betoota Advocate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Type Satirical news website
Format Website
Owner(s) Diamantina Consolidated Holdings Pty Ltd
Founder(s) Archer Hamilton
Charles Single
Piers Grove
Founded 2014
Headquarters Sydney, Australia
Website betootaadvocate.com

The Betoota Advocate is an Australian satirical news website and digital
media company[1] that publishes articles on international, national, and
local news. The site puts a comedic spin on current news topics and
broader social observations.[2] The site is based in inner Sydney, but
takes its name from the deserted regional town of Betoota, Queensland,
and purports to be "Australia's oldest newspaper".[3]
Petzl
2019-08-28 01:31:30 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
There is a balance
Your "balance" is fed to you from the Stalinist ABC
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/30-metre-banner-of-joseph-stalin-draped-in-foyer-of-abc-sydney-raises-questions-of-leftie-bias/
https://is.gd/nGXtlM
30-Metre Banner Of Joseph Stalin Draped In Foyer Of ABC Sydney Raises
Questions Of Leftie Bias
You are fucking kidding? I've seen everything now
The Betoota Advocate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Type Satirical news website
Format Website
Owner(s) Diamantina Consolidated Holdings Pty Ltd
Founder(s) Archer Hamilton
Charles Single
Piers Grove
Founded 2014
Headquarters Sydney, Australia
Website betootaadvocate.com
The Betoota Advocate is an Australian satirical news website and digital
media company[1] that publishes articles on international, national, and
local news. The site puts a comedic spin on current news topics and
broader social observations.[2] The site is based in inner Sydney, but
takes its name from the deserted regional town of Betoota, Queensland,
and purports to be "Australia's oldest newspaper".[3]
You Ordog and Fran at this meeting?
https://www.theunshackled.net/australian-politics/safe-schools-founder-speaks-at-sydney-marxist-conference/?fbclid=IwAR082D4X86rKZIJ2egvS2_-M4EJqq4lQ1JT4iLwGr_1GetydvcnHYc5JSGU
https://is.gd/rm7gRn
To reiterate. A group that openly declares that it wants to overthrow
the government of Australia and implement a totalitarian state held a
conference in Sydney attended by a prominent member of Australia’s
third largest political party, a journalist from a major media
organisation, and lecturers from our institutions of higher education.
And nobody in the mainstream media even bothered to report on it.
--
Petzl
The primary purpose of the memory hole
is to dispose of all unwanted documents.
Now, if you're a top-tier member of the
ruling Inner Party and you want to keep
the masses docile and oppressed without
actually realizing they're oppressed,
what's one thing you'll want to do?
That's right - dispose of any evidence
that makes you or Big Brother look less
all-knowing than you want people to think
you are.
And that's where the memory holes come in.
Dechucka
2019-08-28 01:53:34 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
There is a balance
Your "balance" is fed to you from the Stalinist ABC
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/30-metre-banner-of-joseph-stalin-draped-in-foyer-of-abc-sydney-raises-questions-of-leftie-bias/
https://is.gd/nGXtlM
30-Metre Banner Of Joseph Stalin Draped In Foyer Of ABC Sydney Raises
Questions Of Leftie Bias
You are fucking kidding? I've seen everything now
The Betoota Advocate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Type Satirical news website
Format Website
Owner(s) Diamantina Consolidated Holdings Pty Ltd
Founder(s) Archer Hamilton
Charles Single
Piers Grove
Founded 2014
Headquarters Sydney, Australia
Website betootaadvocate.com
The Betoota Advocate is an Australian satirical news website and digital
media company[1] that publishes articles on international, national, and
local news. The site puts a comedic spin on current news topics and
broader social observations.[2] The site is based in inner Sydney, but
takes its name from the deserted regional town of Betoota, Queensland,
and purports to be "Australia's oldest newspaper".[3]
You Ordog and Fran at this meeting?
Sorry can't read this still lmfao at you citing the Betoota Advocate
Fran
2019-08-28 03:42:54 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
There is a balance
Your "balance" is fed to you from the Stalinist ABC
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/30-metre-banner-of-joseph-stalin-draped-in-foyer-of-abc-sydney-raises-questions-of-leftie-bias/
https://is.gd/nGXtlM
30-Metre Banner Of Joseph Stalin Draped In Foyer Of ABC Sydney Raises
Questions Of Leftie Bias
You are fucking kidding? I've seen everything now
The Betoota Advocate
 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Type    Satirical news website
Format    Website
Owner(s)    Diamantina Consolidated Holdings Pty Ltd
Founder(s)    Archer Hamilton
Charles Single
Piers Grove
Founded    2014
Headquarters    Sydney, Australia
Website    betootaadvocate.com
The Betoota Advocate is an Australian satirical news website and digital
media company[1] that publishes articles on international, national, and
local news. The site puts a comedic spin on current news topics and
broader social observations.[2] The site is based in inner Sydney, but
takes its name from the deserted regional town of Betoota, Queensland,
and purports to be "Australia's oldest newspaper".[3]
You Ordog and Fran at this meeting?
Sorry can't read this still lmfao at you citing the Betoota Advocate
The poor bastard is a retard.
Fran
2019-08-28 03:39:20 UTC
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It was written by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Petzl
Problem is for AGL and Origin is there is no money in producing
power Their only interest is the "supply fee" even if the grid can't
supply the fee remains
There's no reason why electricity supply should be generating revenue
out of Australians' pockets into the pockets of the foreigners who
own those foreign multinationals.
Of course there is a reason. The LNP et al sold off the electricity
assets and the owners now want to make a profit. That is
capitalism/free-enterprise at work, you're not a marxist are you?
Handing over to private owners natural monopolies, government services
and publicly-owned property is not "capitalism".
They have gone from being a public asset to produce electricity to a
privately owned asset designed to create wealth for it's owners via the
production of electricity .
And precisely that is what pure (18th century) capitalism as envisaged
specially by capitalist conservative libertarians like the Fart is.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I am well aware that marxism and communism attempt to claim to be the
source of the concept of common assets, however that is a complete lie
- common assets long >predate the advent of either of these extremist
leftist ideologies.
Economic theories are just that, they try to put different systems into
difference boxes, nothing to do with whether these systems existed
previously or not.
It is only common sense to regard certain monopoly assets like an large
airport, which is open to masses of public users as a special case of
ownership. In private hands, which are guided only by the unchallengeable
profit motive, they are usually end up to be used to the detriment of
everyone except its owner/s.
Acknowledging this situation has nothing specially particularly Marxist
about it, as most people (the rational ones, that is) from all sorts of
political camps can easily understand the nature and the problems of
monopolcapitalism just as they understand how feudalism used to work in a
similar fashion.
The Farts' hatred-fixation on the political left, of course, tries to
reduce all economic and political issues down to blaming Marxism, the
communists and everyone who do not tow his far-right extremist ideology.
Indeed. There are strategic reasons why certain public assets shoud
have alwyas remained in public assets in a place liek Australia. We
huge land with (outside the cities) a comparatively sparse population so
it makes sense to ensure that all citizens have services available to
them at a resonable price.
Post by Ördög
The fact is, Australia has never been a Marxist nor a communist country.
It is not even a social democracy. So why the fuck does almost every
single comment posted by the Fart has to end up in whinging and whining
about the horrors of Stalisnism (which is a serious departure from the
original Marxist principles or even that what Lenin was attempting to
achieve).
The Fart and the pretzel have issues.
Post by Ördög
Not all what the contemporary political Left and Centre says or does is
based on Marxism. Not all forms of socialism are Marxist like for
instance that version which was advocated by the Fabianists.
I've concluded long ago that there can be no sane discussion on any
subjects with extremist intellectual midgets like the Farts on any
subject as it always ends up in the very same predictable outcome.
Indeed. They both need to get out more.
Post by Ördög
:(
Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
2019-08-28 08:00:50 UTC
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Acknowledging this situation has nothing specially particularly Marxist
about it, as most people (the rational ones, that is) from all sorts of
political camps can easily understand the nature and the problems of
monopolcapitalism just as they understand how feudalism used to work in a
similar fashion.
When you're trying to defend the indefensible, you seem driven to employ the strawman- "monopolcapitalism" is not the goal of free society and free enterprise based on capitalist structures, it is a *distortion* of it - the early economic theorists saw competition as a good thing and monopolies as a bad thing.
Post by Ördög
The Farts' hatred-fixation on the political left, of course, tries to
reduce all economic and political issues down to blaming Marxism, the
communists and everyone who do not tow his far-right extremist ideology.
Because the embracement of Marxism has resulted - and still results - in some of the worst political, human, and economic outcomes experienced by Humankind.
Post by Ördög
The fact is, Australia has never been a Marxist nor a communist country.
It is not even a social democracy. So why the fuck does almost every
single comment posted by the Fart has to end up in whinging and whining
about the horrors of Stalisnism (which is a serious departure from the
original Marxist principles or even that what Lenin was attempting to
achieve).
Stalinism, Maoism, Mugabeism and all the rest of them are the tried and true real-world outcomes of implementing Marxist "theory".

And no matter how many times a population is reduced to penury and murderous oppression by this flawed ideology, the true believers in marxism carry on promoting it, as if they are incapable of learning from history.

They are doing it to this day - right now, dogmatic feminist marxists in their ivory towers are advocating the government implement a marxist-inspired market distortion in the form of bumping up the wages of childcare workers, the purported aim being to "fix" the mythical marxist belief of a "gender pay gap".

Of course, the idea that people in low-skill work who want to earn more could simply take on more stressful, harder, more dangerous outdoor work in welding, plastering or waste management just isn't on the marxists' loopy agenda.
They seriously think people should be able to not work hard enough at school to get into medicine, turn to nursing as a low-skill job opportunity, and then complain that Doctors getting paid more than them is some kind of "oppression" that they are the victim of - the belief that pay should not be awarded on merit, nor according to the operation of the free market - that's Marxism talking, and marxism has a 100% rate of delivering societal and economic failure as a result of these loopy beliefs.
Dechucka
2019-08-28 08:15:06 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Acknowledging this situation has nothing specially particularly Marxist
about it, as most people (the rational ones, that is) from all sorts of
political camps can easily understand the nature and the problems of
monopolcapitalism just as they understand how feudalism used to work in a
similar fashion.
When you're trying to defend the indefensible, you seem driven to employ the strawman- "monopolcapitalism" is not the goal of free society and free enterprise based on capitalist structures, it is a *distortion* of it - the early economic theorists saw competition as a good thing and monopolies as a bad thing.
Post by Ördög
The Farts' hatred-fixation on the political left, of course, tries to
reduce all economic and political issues down to blaming Marxism, the
communists and everyone who do not tow his far-right extremist ideology.
Because the embracement of Marxism has resulted - and still results - in some of the worst political, human, and economic outcomes experienced by Humankind.
Post by Ördög
The fact is, Australia has never been a Marxist nor a communist country.
It is not even a social democracy. So why the fuck does almost every
single comment posted by the Fart has to end up in whinging and whining
about the horrors of Stalisnism (which is a serious departure from the
original Marxist principles or even that what Lenin was attempting to
achieve).
Stalinism, Maoism, Mugabeism and all the rest of them are the tried and true real-world outcomes of implementing Marxist "theory".
And no matter how many times a population is reduced to penury and murderous oppression by this flawed ideology, the true believers in marxism carry on promoting it, as if they are incapable of learning from history.
They are doing it to this day - right now, dogmatic feminist marxists in their ivory towers are advocating the government implement a marxist-inspired market distortion in the form of bumping up the wages of childcare workers, the purported aim being to "fix" the mythical marxist belief of a "gender pay gap".
Of course, the idea that people in low-skill work who want to earn more could simply take on more stressful, harder, more dangerous outdoor work in welding, plastering or waste management just isn't on the marxists' loopy agenda.
They seriously think people should be able to not work hard enough at school to get into medicine, turn to nursing as a low-skill job opportunity, and then complain that Doctors getting paid more than them is some kind of "oppression" that they are the victim of - the belief that pay should not be awarded on merit, nor according to the operation of the free market - that's Marxism talking, and marxism has a 100% rate of delivering societal and economic failure as a result of these loopy beliefs.
Totalitarianism from the left or the right or from a theocracy is a
political system that leads to evil and oppression. Somewhere on the
horseshoe spectrum is the way to go

Economic systems of total market control or total capitalism also don't
work. Somewhere on the spectrum once again is the way to go depending on
ones pov.
Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
2019-08-28 08:26:24 UTC
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Economic systems of total market control or total capitalism also don't
work.
Can you provide some kind of illustration as to what this "total capitalism" is, that has not worked?

Because from where I'm standing, that just looks to me like you're playing the false equivalence game.
Dechucka
2019-08-28 10:41:14 UTC
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Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Totalitarianism from the left or the right or from a theocracy is a political system that leads to evil and oppression. Somewhere on the horseshoe spectrum is the way to go
Economic systems of total market control or total capitalism also don't
work.
Can you provide some kind of illustration as to what this "total capitalism" is, that has not worked?
The same place that pure marxism has not worked
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Because from where I'm standing, that just looks to me like you're playing the false equivalence game.
Ördög
2019-08-28 08:59:41 UTC
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It was written by Dechucka
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Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Ördög
Acknowledging this situation has nothing specially particularly
Marxist about it, as most people (the rational ones, that is) from all
sorts of political camps can easily understand the nature and the
problems of monopolcapitalism just as they understand how feudalism
used to work in a similar fashion.
When you're trying to defend the indefensible, you seem driven to
employ the strawman- "monopolcapitalism" is not the goal of free
society and free enterprise based on capitalist structures, it is a
*distortion* of it - the early economic theorists saw competition as a
good thing and monopolies as a bad thing.
Post by Ördög
The Farts' hatred-fixation on the political left, of course, tries to
reduce all economic and political issues down to blaming Marxism, the
communists and everyone who do not tow his far-right extremist ideology.
Because the embracement of Marxism has resulted - and still results -
in some of the worst political, human, and economic outcomes
experienced by Humankind.
Oh how horrible! Bloodthirsty Marxists are swarming under Fart's bed!

However Marx has died in 1883.
That was over 50 years before Stalin became that horrible megalomaniac
totalitarian dictator pin-up boy people like Fart use to scare the shit
out of unruly children.
Even Lenin was already dead when Stalin had finally lost all the remnants
of his political and human sanity and self control.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Post by Ördög
The fact is, Australia has never been a Marxist nor a communist
country. It is not even a social democracy. So why the fuck does
almost every single comment posted by the Fart has to end up in
whinging and whining about the horrors of Stalisnism (which is a
serious departure from the original Marxist principles or even that
what Lenin was attempting to achieve).
Stalinism, Maoism, Mugabeism and all the rest of them are the tried and
true real-world outcomes of implementing Marxist "theory".
And no matter how many times a population is reduced to penury and
murderous oppression by this flawed ideology, the true believers in
marxism carry on promoting it, as if they are incapable of learning
from history.
They are doing it to this day - right now, dogmatic feminist marxists
in their ivory towers are advocating the government implement a
marxist-inspired market distortion in the form of bumping up the wages
of childcare workers, the purported aim being to "fix" the mythical
marxist belief of a "gender pay gap".
Of course, the idea that people in low-skill work who want to earn more
could simply take on more stressful, harder, more dangerous outdoor
work in welding, plastering or waste management just isn't on the
marxists' loopy agenda.
They seriously think people should be able to not work hard enough at
school to get into medicine, turn to nursing as a low-skill job
opportunity, and then complain that Doctors getting paid more than them
is some kind of "oppression" that they are the victim of - the belief
that pay should not be awarded on merit, nor according to the operation
of the free market - that's Marxism talking, and marxism has a 100%
rate of delivering societal and economic failure as a result of these
loopy beliefs.
Totalitarianism from the left or the right or from a theocracy is a
political system that leads to evil and oppression. Somewhere on the
horseshoe spectrum is the way to go
There is no such thing as Marxism...there are multiple branches of
Marxism adapted to different cultures, ethnicity and economic conditions.
In some sense it is just like Xtianity. If you can't condemn all Xtians
based on the fact of the atrocities committed by the Inquisition, etc
then similarly you can't condemn all contemporary Marxist on the planet
because of Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot.

More on this topic see:

"Richard Wolff Schools Jordan Peterson on Marx, at #JPCON"

Post by Dechucka
Economic systems of total market control or total capitalism also don't
work. Somewhere on the spectrum once again is the way to go depending on
ones pov.
Precisely. Capitalism is not a faultless, blameless and in all respects
holy and homogeneous econo-political system. There are NO human invented
social systems which are.
--
Ördög, without any apologies
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