Discussion:
The filth of homosexuality
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Qolon
2005-10-08 06:41:10 UTC
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I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.

- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR

"Richard Dawkins" <***@Hell.com> wrote in message news:8AG0f.53$***@news.uswest.net...
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!

Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.

Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!

Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.

The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"

http://www.tencommandments.org/
Peacenik
2005-10-08 07:26:21 UTC
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Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Zappy
2005-10-08 09:55:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Only if they are sickos
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Seriously?

Who?

The sick bastards.

I could no more eat shit than I could flap my arms and fly to the moon.
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Aynit D. Troof
2005-10-08 11:01:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Zappy
2005-10-08 11:08:32 UTC
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Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Just don't tell the greeks.
Aynit D. Troof
2005-10-08 11:24:34 UTC
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Post by Zappy
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Just don't tell the greeks.
The Greeks can go fuck themselves.
Zappy
2005-10-08 11:29:32 UTC
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Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Zappy
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having
colon
or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and
bring
its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Just don't tell the greeks.
The Greeks can go fuck themselves.
Yeah well I wouldn't touch one of them your dick
Aynit D. Troof
2005-10-08 12:05:03 UTC
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Post by Zappy
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Zappy
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having
colon
or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and
bring
its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Just don't tell the greeks.
The Greeks can go fuck themselves.
Yeah well I wouldn't touch one of them
Bullshit.
Post by Zappy
your dick
Keep your sick fantasies to yourself.
Paul Duca
2005-10-08 11:46:04 UTC
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Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
And if my church didn't tell me this every week, I'd never know.
--
Aynit D. Troof
2005-10-08 12:10:28 UTC
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Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
And if my church didn't tell me this every week, I'd never know.
It's a good thing that you go to church then.

Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide.
Zappy
2005-10-08 12:19:28 UTC
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Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Aynit D. Troof
Post by Qolon
Post by Qolon
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is?
Do
Post by Qolon
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was
filled
Post by Qolon
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Post by Qolon
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By
doing
Post by Qolon
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces
is?
Post by Qolon
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
And if my church didn't tell me this every week, I'd never know.
It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide.
Recommending suicide as opposed to therapy.

Now that's what I call sick.
Paul Duca
2005-10-08 20:32:56 UTC
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in article ***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Aynit D.
Troof at ***@hotmail.com wrote on 10/8/05 8:10 AM:
Ah, yes...you certainly are A. (y) nit...



Paul
Jude Alexander
2005-10-08 20:49:20 UTC
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Isn't it amazing how some people can stand in the sewerage of hatred and
talk about the filty of homosexuals....
Barry OGrady
2005-10-12 03:55:06 UTC
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Post by Jude Alexander
Isn't it amazing how some people can stand in the sewerage of hatred and
talk about the filty of homosexuals....
Christianity is big on hate.

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Aynit D. Troof
2005-10-08 10:57:14 UTC
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Post by Qolon
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%.
Zappy
2005-10-08 11:05:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Qolon
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
That last "with" is redundant.
Qolon
2005-10-08 19:47:10 UTC
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Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.

Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-

(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;

This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
material:

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.

Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.

(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.

Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.

I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.

- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR

"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
<***@hotmail.com>, Date: 8 Oct 2005 03:57:14 -0700]

From: "Peacenik" <***@hotmail.com>
Organization: SeedNet
Message-ID: news:di7sau$brs$***@news.seed.net.tw
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.

Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.

Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.

From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Message-ID: <news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.

From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.

Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."

"Richard Dawkins" <***@Hell.com> wrote in message news:8AG0f.53$***@news.uswest.net...
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!

Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.

Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!

Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.

The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"

http://www.tencommandments.org/
G***@ArmyofGod.com
2005-10-08 20:19:09 UTC
Permalink
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:22-27

V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.

V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature:

V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:8-10

V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
Post by Qolon
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
Organization: SeedNet
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
Tim K.
2005-10-08 20:26:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
<snip rant>

One should ask one's self, what would Jesus post...
*In any event it must be really really nice for you, having your life soooo
together that you can spend any of it worrying about people who, for
whatever reason, are doing in their bedrooms.





* S a r c a s m
Tim K.
2005-10-08 20:28:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim K.
*In any event it must be really really nice for you, having your life
soooo together that you can spend any of it worrying about what people,
for whatever reason, are doing in their bedrooms.
Barry OGrady
2005-10-12 03:54:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim K.
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
<snip rant>
One should ask one's self, what would Jesus post...
Jesus would tell us to hate our families and to take up a sword.
Post by Tim K.
*In any event it must be really really nice for you, having your life soooo
together that you can spend any of it worrying about people who, for
whatever reason, are doing in their bedrooms.
* S a r c a s m
Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Monist__
2005-10-12 17:34:38 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:54:37 +1000, Barry OGrady
Post by Barry OGrady
Jesus would tell us to hate our families and to take up a sword.
I think that during his life, JC would have gone through a process of
growth and self development.

The Gospels record some verbal outbursts and how he overthrew the
tables of the money changers.

However, by the time he was cruxified, he had gained the ability,
while dying on the cross, to say of his enemies "Forgive them for
they know not what they do".

I think we should allow this final act of forgiveness plus his
messages of love to be our inspiration.

Then it should not matter if he had some faults.
Barry OGrady
2005-10-13 01:27:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Monist__
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:54:37 +1000, Barry OGrady
Post by Barry OGrady
Jesus would tell us to hate our families and to take up a sword.
I think that during his life, JC would have gone through a process of
growth and self development.
The Gospels record some verbal outbursts and how he overthrew the
tables of the money changers.
However, by the time he was cruxified, he had gained the ability,
while dying on the cross, to say of his enemies "Forgive them for
they know not what they do".
I think we should allow this final act of forgiveness plus his
messages of love to be our inspiration.
Then it should not matter if he had some faults.
There are far better people to be inspired by.

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Dore
2005-10-09 01:15:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
I certainly hope that YOU are CHASTE and SINLESS for you should know that
however you judge, you are judged, and thus if you are having LUSTFUL sex
for pleasure, you have just condemned yourself.

Matt 7:1-5
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
KJV

John 8:7
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
KJV
--
Dore

www.dorewilliamson.com
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:22-27
V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.
V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
1 Timothy 1:8-10
V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
Post by Qolon
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
Organization: SeedNet
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
Qolon
2005-10-09 02:05:38 UTC
Permalink
Dore is there something more to your religious experience than being a
barren womb?

Speaking of judgment, isn't it also written, "Then He began to rebuke the
cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not
repent:

'Woe to you, Chorazin {the secret; here is a mystery}! Woe to you, Bethsaida
{house of fruits, or of food, or of snares}! For if the mighty works which
were done in you had been done in Tyre {strength; rock; sharp} and Sidon
{hunting; fishing; venison}, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth
and ashes.

But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of
judgment than for you.

And you, Capernaum {the field of repentance; city of comfort}, who are
exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works
which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until
this day.

But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom
{their secret; their cement} in the day of judgment than for you." [Matthew
11:20-24]

"Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves'
eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from
mount Gilead {the heap or mass of testimony}.

Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from
the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.
Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples
are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks. Thy neck is like the
tower of David {well beloved; dear} builded for an armoury, whereon there
hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men. Thy two breasts are
like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. Until the
day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of
myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense.

Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.

Come with me from Lebanon {white, incense}, my spouse, with me from Lebanon:
look from the top of Amana {Integrity; truth; a nurse}, from the top of
Shenir {Lantern; light that sleeps} and Hermon {anathema; devoted to
destruction}, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.

Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my
heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck. How fair is thy
love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the
smell of thine ointments than all spices! Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the
honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy
garments is like the smell of Lebanon. A garden enclosed is my sister, my
spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed. Thy plants are an orchard of
pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, Spikenard and
saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and
aloes, with all the chief spices: A fountain of gardens, a well of living
waters, and streams from Lebanon.

Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the
spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat
his pleasant fruits." [Song of Songs 4:1-16]

Dore, how readest thou?

- dolf
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/sybilline.html#INR>

"Dore" <***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Ua_1f.2109$***@trndny01...
I certainly hope that YOU are CHASTE and SINLESS for you should know that
however you judge, you are judged, and thus if you are having LUSTFUL sex
for pleasure, you have just condemned yourself.

Matt 7:1-5
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
KJV

John 8:7
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
KJV

QOLON NOTE:

Sadly the user ***@ArmyofGod.com below is typical of many who
falsely claim to be Christian, in that they unlawfully seek to impose their
God-forsaken trash upon those who preceed them in the Kingdom of Heaven and
who are otherwise capable of articulating an alternate theology which is
robust and has the answers to truth which they can only feign--AS THOUGH OUR
PRAISE TO GOD IS SUB-ORDINATE TO SUCH PRETENDERS.

The quasi-anonymous below user is peddling the usual grab bag 'proof-texts'
of quasi-Christian hymeneal mystical values, which are the basis for the
State of Religion as the engagement of moral relativism, replacement
theology and antagonism to Seventh-day Sabbatarianism that seeks to ignore
alternate and pre-eminent religious claims to the contrary as Everlasting
Covenant/Gospel, by imposing "fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes
one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the
individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and therefore
Constitutional right.

Philo of Alexandria rightly asks, "And what wonder is there if the living
God is beyond the reach of the comprehension of man, when even the mind that
is in each of us is unintelligible and unknown to us? Who has ever beheld
the essence of soul? The obscure nature of which has given rise to an
infinite number of contests among the sophists brought forward opposite
opinions, some of which are inconsisent with any kind of nature. It was,
therefore, quite consistent with reason that no proper name could with
propriety be assigned to him who is in truth the living God.

Do you not see that to the prophet who is really desirous of making an
honest inquiry after the truth, and who asks what answer he is to give to
those who question him as to the name of him who has sent him {ie.

Compare to: "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten-MONOGENES
{as gematric/isopsephy equivalent value (2 x 8) + 300 + (3 x 10) {ie.
HRUMACHIS = #330 as Ison(omia) - 'Equilibrium, equal distribution, balance,
equality of political rights'} + 7 = #353} Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he has declared him." [John 1:17-18]

}, he says, 'I am that I am' which is equivalent to saying, 'It is my nature
to be, not to be described by name.' [Exodus 7:17]. But in order that the
human race may not be wholly destitute of any appellation which they may
give to the most excellent of beings, I allow you to use the words Lord as a
name, the Lord God of three natures--of instruction, and of holiness, and
the practice of virtue; of which Abraham [#80, #53, #72, #32 - Natural
Guide/ The Virtue of Holiness, #16, #35, #75, #22, #43], and Isaac [#33,
#36, #23, #43 - Absolute Negation/ It's Universal Application, #67, #4, #1,
#21, #44] and Jacob [#28, #23, #55, #54 - Culturing Perspectives/ The
Cultivation of Intuition, #50, #27, #2, #42, #45] are recorded as the
symbols.

For this {ie. as the 22 generations from Adam to Jacob}, says he, is the
everlasting name, as if it has been investigated and discerned in time as it
exists in reference to us, and not in that time which was before all time;
and it is also a memorial not placed beyond recollection or intelligence,
and again it is addressed to persons who have been born, not to uncreated
natures." [Philo of Alexandria, 'On the Change of Names' 11-12, Yonge
1993:342]

Thus whilst Philo of Alexandria, expresses within the daemon correspondence
to the Angel of Sitael: Samek (#60), Yod (#10), Teth (#9) = [#79 -
Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations] as the equivalent of the
Latin: Laetabundus {God the hope of all creatures} Alt: Hacheshyah {Silence
of God}, that Eden {desire} is the habitation synonymous with joy within
inner being, from whence: "God cast out Adam {Taken from 4 corners; earthy;
red} [and Eve {Because she was the mother of all living}], and placed him
opposite the paradise of happiness; and he placed there the Cherubim and a
flaming sword, which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
[Genesis 3:24]" [Philo's Treatise of 'On Cherubim', 1].

[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture, #1, #23, #15, #62, #16]

#5 - Natural Guidance/ Function of Emptiness
#78 - Recognizing Fidelity/ Trust in Faith
#77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason
#14 - Metaphysical Issues/ Praising the Mysterious
#1 * To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations
#67 - Three Treasures
#41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
#19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity

vMeme Object Probability Function {Act of Nature}(
{Act of Nature}(
{Transforming Nature}
)
) // Strategic Plane Five: vOrange (#1)

I-Ching Hex: 58 - Joy
Tetragram: 24 - Joy

Such imagery of banishment from before the face of God, which Philo appears
to frequently deploy [cf: Adam, Cain, Hagar] as associations to both the
cosmological order, reason and the encyclical sciences, in that regard, is
consistent with the interpretation of 6th Century BCE Chinese philosopher
Lao Tzu understanding of the HSUAN-Mystery related to the 'creative aspect
of the Tao':

"What has no name is the beginning of Heaven and Earth. What has a name is
the mother of the myriad creatures. Those without desires contemplate its
secrets. Those who have desires contemplate its periphery. These two emerge
together, but different in name. Being together, they are called 'Mystery.'
Mystery upon mystery, gateway to the myriad secrets." [Lao Zsu #1 - To Guide
with Names/ Reason's Realisation]

"And it follows of necessity that when the mind goes forth from any
imagination of God, by which it would be good and expedient for it to be
supported, then immediately, after the fashion of a ship, which is tossed in
the sea, when the winds oppose it with great violence, it is tossed about in
every direction {ie. Symbolic of wickedness agitating the soul, and the
other of virtue which creates for the soul a state of tranquility and
happiness, not meaning by happiness that effeminate luxury which is derived
from the indulgence of the irrational passion of pleasure, but a joy free
from toil and free from hardship, which is enjoyed with great tranquility},
having disturbance as it were for its country and its home, a thing which is
the most contrary of all things to steadiness of soul, which is engendered
by joy, which is a term synonymous with Eden {pleasure; delight}." [#69, #3,
#53, #13 - Status/ Loathing Shame, #63, #73, #24, #63, #17]

Philo is of course reliant upon an underlying Torah technology as encyclical
Kabbalistic hierarchical architecture as celestial order of Angels/Daemons
obtained from an annagrammation of the Biblcial text [Exodus 14:19-21] which
he asserts comprises a Solar/Chronos and deeming or reasoning rationale.
This encyclical architecuture, sustained by a jurisprudent usage of a number
schema impregnate his various treatises and their correspondence, support of
a self-evident claim of referential integrity and authority.

Philo suggests within element #52 of his treatise 'On Cherubim', that what
makes you effeminate is the embrace of the outward senses or sense
perception [#39, #39, #73, #52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin, #35,
#48, #79, #6, #61]. And which he in his treatise titled 'On Abraham',
further equates in element #73 with the esoteric explanation to be reserved
for the few who choose for the subjects of their investigation the
dispositions of the soul {

ie. [#72, #63, #75, #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81]
as the lofty philosophy which investigates the events which take place in
the air , and the sublime nature of the beings which exist in heaven, which
mathematical science claims for itself as the most excellent part of natural
philosophy. Of the things 'which are perceptible only by the intellect, the
number seven is proved to be the only thing free from motion and accident;
but among things perceptible by the external senses, it displays a great and
comprehensive power, contributing to the improvement of all terrestrial
things.' [Philo, On Creation: XXXIV 101] ([#2])

}, and not the forms of the bodies. And thereby, in connection to an
explanation to be given to the multitude, connects 'the five cities of the
land of Sodom {their secret; their cement}' with a figurative representation
of the five outward senses which exist in us, the organs of the pleasures,
by the instrumentality of which all the pleasures whether great or small are
brought to perfect." [Philo , On Abraham, XXIX]


- dolf
- <>

From: ***@ArmyofGod.com
Date: 8 Oct 2005 13:19:09 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.

God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:22-27

V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.

V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature:

V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:8-10

V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
"Qolon" <***@iprimus.net> wrote in message news:***@news.iprimus.com.au...
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.

Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-

(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;

This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
material:

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.

Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.

(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.

Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.

I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.

- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR

"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
<***@hotmail.com>, Date: 8 Oct 2005 03:57:14 -0700]

From: "Peacenik" <***@hotmail.com>
Organization: SeedNet
Message-ID: news:di7sau$brs$***@news.seed.net.tw
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.

Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.

Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.

From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Message-ID: <news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.

From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.

Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."

"Richard Dawkins" <***@Hell.com> wrote in message news:8AG0f.53$***@news.uswest.net...
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!

Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.

Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!

Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.

The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"

http://www.tencommandments.org/
Dore
2005-10-15 00:43:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Qolon
Dore is there something more to your religious experience than being a
barren womb?
Being chaste is just one of the many necessities of purity required to be
redeemed.

cont
Post by Qolon
Speaking of judgment, isn't it also written, "Then He began to rebuke the
cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not
Yes, because unrepentance and unbelief are greater sins than sexual lust and
are thus judged more harshly.

cont
Post by Qolon
look from the top of Amana {Integrity; truth; a nurse}, from the top of
Shenir {Lantern; light that sleeps} and Hermon {anathema; devoted to
destruction}, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.
Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my
heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck. How fair is thy
love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the
smell of thine ointments than all spices! Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the
honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy
garments is like the smell of Lebanon. A garden enclosed is my sister, my
spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed. Thy plants are an orchard of
pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, Spikenard and
saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and
aloes, with all the chief spices: A fountain of gardens, a well of living
waters, and streams from Lebanon.
Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the
spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat
his pleasant fruits." [Song of Songs 4:1-16]
Dore, how readest thou?
The Songs of Solomon shouldn't even be in the Bible, for it is nothing more
than Solomon's lust for one of his many adulterous wives and comparing it to
his rule of Israel. Solomon turned away from God and began to worship the
pagan gods of one of his wives, and he is the one that built the altar to
Molech to sacrifice children. His opinions are worthless in the things of
God, especially in the Song of Solomon.
--
Dore

www.dorewilliamson.com
Post by Qolon
Dore is there something more to your religious experience than being a
barren womb?
Speaking of judgment, isn't it also written, "Then He began to rebuke the
cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not
'Woe to you, Chorazin {the secret; here is a mystery}! Woe to you, Bethsaida
{house of fruits, or of food, or of snares}! For if the mighty works which
were done in you had been done in Tyre {strength; rock; sharp} and Sidon
{hunting; fishing; venison}, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth
and ashes.
But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of
judgment than for you.
And you, Capernaum {the field of repentance; city of comfort}, who are
exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works
which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until
this day.
But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom
{their secret; their cement} in the day of judgment than for you." [Matthew
11:20-24]
"Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves'
eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from
mount Gilead {the heap or mass of testimony}.
Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from
the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.
Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples
are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks. Thy neck is like the
tower of David {well beloved; dear} builded for an armoury, whereon there
hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men. Thy two breasts are
like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. Until the
day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of
myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense.
Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.
look from the top of Amana {Integrity; truth; a nurse}, from the top of
Shenir {Lantern; light that sleeps} and Hermon {anathema; devoted to
destruction}, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.
Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my
heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck. How fair is thy
love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the
smell of thine ointments than all spices! Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the
honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy
garments is like the smell of Lebanon. A garden enclosed is my sister, my
spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed. Thy plants are an orchard of
pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, Spikenard and
saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and
aloes, with all the chief spices: A fountain of gardens, a well of living
waters, and streams from Lebanon.
Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the
spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat
his pleasant fruits." [Song of Songs 4:1-16]
Dore, how readest thou?
- dolf
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/sybilline.html#INR>
I certainly hope that YOU are CHASTE and SINLESS for you should know that
however you judge, you are judged, and thus if you are having LUSTFUL sex
for pleasure, you have just condemned yourself.
Matt 7:1-5
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
KJV
John 8:7
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
KJV
falsely claim to be Christian, in that they unlawfully seek to impose their
God-forsaken trash upon those who preceed them in the Kingdom of Heaven and
who are otherwise capable of articulating an alternate theology which is
robust and has the answers to truth which they can only feign--AS THOUGH OUR
PRAISE TO GOD IS SUB-ORDINATE TO SUCH PRETENDERS.
The quasi-anonymous below user is peddling the usual grab bag
'proof-texts'
of quasi-Christian hymeneal mystical values, which are the basis for the
State of Religion as the engagement of moral relativism, replacement
theology and antagonism to Seventh-day Sabbatarianism that seeks to ignore
alternate and pre-eminent religious claims to the contrary as Everlasting
Covenant/Gospel, by imposing "fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes
one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the
individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and therefore
Constitutional right.
Philo of Alexandria rightly asks, "And what wonder is there if the living
God is beyond the reach of the comprehension of man, when even the mind that
is in each of us is unintelligible and unknown to us? Who has ever beheld
the essence of soul? The obscure nature of which has given rise to an
infinite number of contests among the sophists brought forward opposite
opinions, some of which are inconsisent with any kind of nature. It was,
therefore, quite consistent with reason that no proper name could with
propriety be assigned to him who is in truth the living God.
Do you not see that to the prophet who is really desirous of making an
honest inquiry after the truth, and who asks what answer he is to give to
those who question him as to the name of him who has sent him {ie.
Compare to: "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten-MONOGENES
{as gematric/isopsephy equivalent value (2 x 8) + 300 + (3 x 10) {ie.
HRUMACHIS = #330 as Ison(omia) - 'Equilibrium, equal distribution, balance,
equality of political rights'} + 7 = #353} Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he has declared him." [John 1:17-18]
}, he says, 'I am that I am' which is equivalent to saying, 'It is my nature
to be, not to be described by name.' [Exodus 7:17]. But in order that the
human race may not be wholly destitute of any appellation which they may
give to the most excellent of beings, I allow you to use the words Lord as a
name, the Lord God of three natures--of instruction, and of holiness, and
the practice of virtue; of which Abraham [#80, #53, #72, #32 - Natural
Guide/ The Virtue of Holiness, #16, #35, #75, #22, #43], and Isaac [#33,
#36, #23, #43 - Absolute Negation/ It's Universal Application, #67, #4, #1,
#21, #44] and Jacob [#28, #23, #55, #54 - Culturing Perspectives/ The
Cultivation of Intuition, #50, #27, #2, #42, #45] are recorded as the
symbols.
For this {ie. as the 22 generations from Adam to Jacob}, says he, is the
everlasting name, as if it has been investigated and discerned in time as it
exists in reference to us, and not in that time which was before all time;
and it is also a memorial not placed beyond recollection or intelligence,
and again it is addressed to persons who have been born, not to uncreated
natures." [Philo of Alexandria, 'On the Change of Names' 11-12, Yonge
1993:342]
Thus whilst Philo of Alexandria, expresses within the daemon
correspondence
to the Angel of Sitael: Samek (#60), Yod (#10), Teth (#9) = [#79 -
Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations] as the equivalent of the
Latin: Laetabundus {God the hope of all creatures} Alt: Hacheshyah {Silence
of God}, that Eden {desire} is the habitation synonymous with joy within
inner being, from whence: "God cast out Adam {Taken from 4 corners; earthy;
red} [and Eve {Because she was the mother of all living}], and placed him
opposite the paradise of happiness; and he placed there the Cherubim and a
flaming sword, which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
[Genesis 3:24]" [Philo's Treatise of 'On Cherubim', 1].
[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture, #1, #23, #15, #62, #16]
#5 - Natural Guidance/ Function of Emptiness
#78 - Recognizing Fidelity/ Trust in Faith
#77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason
#14 - Metaphysical Issues/ Praising the Mysterious
#1 * To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations
#67 - Three Treasures
#41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
#19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity
vMeme Object Probability Function {Act of Nature}(
{Act of Nature}(
{Transforming Nature}
)
) // Strategic Plane Five: vOrange (#1)
I-Ching Hex: 58 - Joy
Tetragram: 24 - Joy
Such imagery of banishment from before the face of God, which Philo appears
to frequently deploy [cf: Adam, Cain, Hagar] as associations to both the
cosmological order, reason and the encyclical sciences, in that regard, is
consistent with the interpretation of 6th Century BCE Chinese philosopher
Lao Tzu understanding of the HSUAN-Mystery related to the 'creative aspect
"What has no name is the beginning of Heaven and Earth. What has a name is
the mother of the myriad creatures. Those without desires contemplate its
secrets. Those who have desires contemplate its periphery. These two emerge
together, but different in name. Being together, they are called 'Mystery.'
Mystery upon mystery, gateway to the myriad secrets." [Lao Zsu #1 - To Guide
with Names/ Reason's Realisation]
"And it follows of necessity that when the mind goes forth from any
imagination of God, by which it would be good and expedient for it to be
supported, then immediately, after the fashion of a ship, which is tossed in
the sea, when the winds oppose it with great violence, it is tossed about in
every direction {ie. Symbolic of wickedness agitating the soul, and the
other of virtue which creates for the soul a state of tranquility and
happiness, not meaning by happiness that effeminate luxury which is derived
from the indulgence of the irrational passion of pleasure, but a joy free
from toil and free from hardship, which is enjoyed with great
tranquility},
having disturbance as it were for its country and its home, a thing which is
the most contrary of all things to steadiness of soul, which is engendered
by joy, which is a term synonymous with Eden {pleasure; delight}." [#69, #3,
#53, #13 - Status/ Loathing Shame, #63, #73, #24, #63, #17]
Philo is of course reliant upon an underlying Torah technology as encyclical
Kabbalistic hierarchical architecture as celestial order of Angels/Daemons
obtained from an annagrammation of the Biblcial text [Exodus 14:19-21] which
he asserts comprises a Solar/Chronos and deeming or reasoning rationale.
This encyclical architecuture, sustained by a jurisprudent usage of a number
schema impregnate his various treatises and their correspondence, support of
a self-evident claim of referential integrity and authority.
Philo suggests within element #52 of his treatise 'On Cherubim', that what
makes you effeminate is the embrace of the outward senses or sense
perception [#39, #39, #73, #52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin, #35,
#48, #79, #6, #61]. And which he in his treatise titled 'On Abraham',
further equates in element #73 with the esoteric explanation to be reserved
for the few who choose for the subjects of their investigation the
dispositions of the soul {
ie. [#72, #63, #75, #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81]
as the lofty philosophy which investigates the events which take place in
the air , and the sublime nature of the beings which exist in heaven, which
mathematical science claims for itself as the most excellent part of natural
philosophy. Of the things 'which are perceptible only by the intellect, the
number seven is proved to be the only thing free from motion and accident;
but among things perceptible by the external senses, it displays a great and
comprehensive power, contributing to the improvement of all terrestrial
things.' [Philo, On Creation: XXXIV 101] ([#2])
}, and not the forms of the bodies. And thereby, in connection to an
explanation to be given to the multitude, connects 'the five cities of the
land of Sodom {their secret; their cement}' with a figurative
representation
of the five outward senses which exist in us, the organs of the pleasures,
by the instrumentality of which all the pleasures whether great or small are
brought to perfect." [Philo , On Abraham, XXIX]
- dolf
- <>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 13:19:09 -0700
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:22-27
V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.
V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
1 Timothy 1:8-10
V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
Organization: SeedNet
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
Barry OGrady
2005-10-09 09:23:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dore
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
I certainly hope that YOU are CHASTE and SINLESS for you should know that
however you judge, you are judged, and thus if you are having LUSTFUL sex
for pleasure, you have just condemned yourself.
What pleasure does God get out of giving us desires and then ordering us to
resist them?
Post by Dore
Matt 7:1-5
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
God won't judge us since he would be judging himself.
Post by Dore
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Are you listening God?
Post by Dore
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
KJV
We must judge in order to survive.
Post by Dore
John 8:7
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
KJV
Damn you mother!
We are all without sin.
Post by Dore
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:22-27
V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.
V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
1 Timothy 1:8-10
V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
Post by Qolon
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
Organization: SeedNet
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Dore
2005-10-15 00:51:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Barry OGrady
What pleasure does God get out of giving us desires and then ordering us to
resist them?
If someone makes you extremely angry and you have a desire to kill them,
should you resist it or give in? If someone forgets their purse with
thousands of dollars in the wallet, and you have a desire for a new car,
should you resist the desire to steal it or not?

You were born with free will and choice between good and evil, to test your
loyalty to God. Your desires for evil things are the temptations of devils
to get you to sin against God.

cont
Post by Barry OGrady
God won't judge us since he would be judging himself.
You sin, God does not. He is perfect, holy, pure, righteous, true and good.
You make the choices between good and evil, thus you are judged upon those
choices. Your choices have nothing to do with GOD, you choose them all on
your own. Why should it be judging Him when YOU make the choices to sin?

cont
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Dore
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Are you listening God?
Like I said, God is perfect and commits NO sin, therefore there are no motes
or beams in His eyes.

cont
Post by Barry OGrady
We must judge in order to survive.
Bull, you don't need to persecute, defame, condemn or judge anyone else to
survive. Worry about your own choices and life.

cont
Post by Barry OGrady
Damn you mother!
We are all without sin.
So you don't think murder, theft, lies, deception, greed, adultery, etc are
sins? What if they are done to you? Do you consider them sins then?
--
Dore

www.dorewilliamson.com
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Dore
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
I certainly hope that YOU are CHASTE and SINLESS for you should know that
however you judge, you are judged, and thus if you are having LUSTFUL sex
for pleasure, you have just condemned yourself.
What pleasure does God get out of giving us desires and then ordering us to
resist them?
Post by Dore
Matt 7:1-5
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
God won't judge us since he would be judging himself.
Post by Dore
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Are you listening God?
Post by Dore
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
KJV
We must judge in order to survive.
Post by Dore
John 8:7
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
KJV
Damn you mother!
We are all without sin.
Post by Dore
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Post by G***@ArmyofGod.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:22-27
V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.
V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
1 Timothy 1:8-10
V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
Post by Qolon
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20
BCE-50
CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or
activity
of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals
as
a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti
'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile,
demeaning
and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the
Marriage
Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
Organization: SeedNet
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore,
heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality
is?
Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human
feces
is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality.
This
is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For
those
who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by
God
in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what
kind
of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
Barry
=====
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2005-10-17 04:02:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dore
Post by Barry OGrady
What pleasure does God get out of giving us desires and then ordering us
to resist them?
If someone makes you extremely angry and you have a desire to kill them,
should you resist it or give in? If someone forgets their purse with
thousands of dollars in the wallet, and you have a desire for a new car,
should you resist the desire to steal it or not?
Wouldn't it have been better if God had not given us those desires in the
first place? Like the donkey said in Animal Farm, he was glad that God
had given him a tail to swat flies but he would have been better off without
flies.
Post by Dore
You were born with free will and choice between good and evil, to test your
loyalty to God.
Surely it is blasphemy to suggest that God does not know how he made us.
Post by Dore
Your desires for evil things are the temptations of devils to get you to
sin against God.
Don't you find it odd that God made devils that way?
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
God won't judge us since he would be judging himself.
You sin, God does not. He is perfect, holy, pure, righteous, true and good.
Where do you get those ideas about God? Surely a good God would not
allow any form of suffering for any reason.
Post by Dore
You make the choices between good and evil, thus you are judged upon those
choices. Your choices have nothing to do with GOD, you choose them all on
your own. Why should it be judging Him when YOU make the choices to sin?
I'm assuming that God is the creator and that Jesus spoke truly when he
said that all things are possible for God. In that case we can only be what
God made us and God should know how we are without needing to test
us.
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Dore
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Are you listening God?
Like I said, God is perfect and commits NO sin, therefore there are no motes
or beams in His eyes.
The Bible describes many terrible and evil acts by God, and there is proof
all around us that there is no good God
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
We must judge in order to survive.
Bull, you don't need to persecute, defame, condemn or judge anyone else to
survive. Worry about your own choices and life.
What sort of God created a world where we must kill in order to live and where
life feeds off life?
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
Damn you mother!
We are all without sin.
So you don't think murder, theft, lies, deception, greed, adultery, etc are
sins? What if they are done to you? Do you consider them sins then?
The concept of sin was invented to control people.
Post by Dore
--
Dore
Barry
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Barry OGrady
2005-10-18 04:24:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dore
Post by Barry OGrady
What pleasure does God get out of giving us desires and then ordering us
to resist them?
If someone makes you extremely angry and you have a desire to kill them,
should you resist it or give in? If someone forgets their purse with
thousands of dollars in the wallet, and you have a desire for a new car,
should you resist the desire to steal it or not?
Wouldn't it have been better if God had not given us those desires in the
first place? Like the donkey said in Animal Farm, he was glad that God
had given him a tail to swat flies but he would have been better off without
flies.
Post by Dore
You were born with free will and choice between good and evil, to test your
loyalty to God.
Surely it is blasphemy to suggest that God does not know how he made us.
Post by Dore
Your desires for evil things are the temptations of devils to get you to
sin against God.
Don't you find it odd that God made devils that way?
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
God won't judge us since he would be judging himself.
You sin, God does not. He is perfect, holy, pure, righteous, true and good.
Where do you get those ideas about God? Surely a good God would not
allow any form of suffering for any reason.
Post by Dore
You make the choices between good and evil, thus you are judged upon those
choices. Your choices have nothing to do with GOD, you choose them all on
your own. Why should it be judging Him when YOU make the choices to sin?
I'm assuming that God is the creator and that Jesus spoke truly when he
said that all things are possible for God. In that case we can only be what
God made us and God should know how we are without needing to test
us.
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Dore
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Are you listening God?
Like I said, God is perfect and commits NO sin, therefore there are no motes
or beams in His eyes.
The Bible describes many terrible and evil acts by God, and there is proof
all around us that there is no good God
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
We must judge in order to survive.
Bull, you don't need to persecute, defame, condemn or judge anyone else to
survive. Worry about your own choices and life.
What sort of God created a world where we must kill in order to live and where
life feeds off life?
Post by Dore
cont
Post by Barry OGrady
Damn you mother!
We are all without sin.
So you don't think murder, theft, lies, deception, greed, adultery, etc are
sins? What if they are done to you? Do you consider them sins then?
The concept of sin was invented to control people.
Post by Dore
--
Dore
Barry
=====
Home page
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Qolon
2005-10-08 21:28:09 UTC
Permalink
Sadly the user ***@ArmyofGod.com below is typical of many who
falsely claim to be Christian, in that they unlawfully seek to impose their
God-forsaken trash upon those who preceed them in the Kingdom of Heaven and
who are otherwise capable of articulating an alternate theology which is
robust and has the answers to truth which they can only feign--AS THOUGH OUR
PRAISE TO GOD IS SUB-ORDINATE TO SUCH PRETENDERS.

The quasi-anonymous below user is peddling the usual grab bag 'proof-texts'
of quasi-Christian hymeneal mystical values, which are the basis for the
State of Religion as the engagement of moral relativism, replacement
theology and antagonism to Seventh-day Sabbatarianism that seeks to ignore
alternate and pre-eminent religious claims to the contrary as Everlasting
Covenant/Gospel, by imposing "fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes
one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the
individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and therefore
Constitutional right.

Philo of Alexandria rightly asks, "And what wonder is there if the living
God is beyond the reach of the comprehension of man, when even the mind that
is in each of us is unintelligible and unknown to us? Who has ever beheld
the essence of soul? The obscure nature of which has given rise to an
infinite number of contests among the sophists brought forward opposite
opinions, some of which are inconsisent with any kind of nature. It was,
therefore, quite consistent with reason that no proper name could with
propriety be assigned to him who is in truth the living God.

Do you not see that to the prophet who is really desirous of making an
honest inquiry after the truth, and who asks what answer he is to give to
those who question him as to the name of him who has sent him {ie.

Compare to: "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten-MONOGENES
{as gematric/isopsephy equivalent value (2 x 8) + 300 + (3 x 10) {ie.
HRUMACHIS = #330 as Ison(omia) - 'Equilibrium, equal distribution, balance,
equality of political rights'} + 7 = #353} Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he has declared him." [John 1:17-18]

}, he says, 'I am that I am' which is equivalent to saying, 'It is my nature
to be, not to be described by name.' [Exodus 7:17]. But in order that the
human race may not be wholly destitute of any appellation which they may
give to the most excellent of beings, I allow you to use the words Lord as a
name, the Lord God of three natures--of instruction, and of holiness, and
the practice of virtue; of which Abraham [#80, #53, #72, #32 - Natural
Guide/ The Virtue of Holiness, #16, #35, #75, #22, #43], and Isaac [#33,
#36, #23, #43 - Absolute Negation/ It's Universal Application, #67, #4, #1,
#21, #44] and Jacob [#28, #23, #55, #54 - Culturing Perspectives/ The
Cultivation of Intuition, #50, #27, #2, #42, #45] are recorded as the
symbols.

For this {ie. as the 22 generations from Adam to Jacob}, says he, is the
everlasting name, as if it has been investigated and discerned in time as it
exists in reference to us, and not in that time which was before all time;
and it is also a memorial not placed beyond recollection or intelligence,
and again it is addressed to persons who have been born, not to uncreated
natures." [Philo of Alexandria, 'On the Change of Names' 11-12, Yonge
1993:342]

Thus whilst Philo of Alexandria, expresses within the daemon correspondence
to the Angel of Sitael: Samek (#60), Yod (#10), Teth (#9) = [#79 -
Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations] as the equivalent of the
Latin: Laetabundus {God the hope of all creatures} Alt: Hacheshyah {Silence
of God}, that Eden {desire} is the habitation synonymous with joy within
inner being, from whence: "God cast out Adam {Taken from 4 corners; earthy;
red} [and Eve {Because she was the mother of all living}], and placed him
opposite the paradise of happiness; and he placed there the Cherubim and a
flaming sword, which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
[Genesis 3:24]" [Philo's Treatise of 'On Cherubim', 1].

[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture, #1, #23, #15, #62, #16]

#5 - Natural Guidance/ Function of Emptiness
#78 - Recognizing Fidelity/ Trust in Faith
#77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason
#14 - Metaphysical Issues/ Praising the Mysterious
#1 * To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations
#67 - Three Treasures
#41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
#19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity

vMeme Object Probability Function {Act of Nature}(
{Act of Nature}(
{Transforming Nature}
)
) // Strategic Plane Five: vOrange (#1)

I-Ching Hex: 58 - Joy
Tetragram: 24 - Joy

Such imagery of banishment from before the face of God, which Philo appears
to frequently deploy [cf: Adam, Cain, Hagar] as associations to both the
cosmological order, reason and the encyclical sciences, in that regard, is
consistent with the interpretation of 6th Century BCE Chinese philosopher
Lao Tzu understanding of the HSUAN-Mystery related to the 'creative aspect
of the Tao':

"What has no name is the beginning of Heaven and Earth. What has a name is
the mother of the myriad creatures. Those without desires contemplate its
secrets. Those who have desires contemplate its periphery. These two emerge
together, but different in name. Being together, they are called 'Mystery.'
Mystery upon mystery, gateway to the myriad secrets." [Lao Zsu #1 - To Guide
with Names/ Reason's Realisation]

"And it follows of necessity that when the mind goes forth from any
imagination of God, by which it would be good and expedient for it to be
supported, then immediately, after the fashion of a ship, which is tossed in
the sea, when the winds oppose it with great violence, it is tossed about in
every direction {ie. Symbolic of wickedness agitating the soul, and the
other of virtue which creates for the soul a state of tranquility and
happiness, not meaning by happiness that effeminate luxury which is derived
from the indulgence of the irrational passion of pleasure, but a joy free
from toil and free from hardship, which is enjoyed with great tranquility},
having disturbance as it were for its country and its home, a thing which is
the most contrary of all things to steadiness of soul, which is engendered
by joy, which is a term synonymous with Eden {pleasure; delight}." [#69, #3,
#53, #13 - Status/ Loathing Shame, #63, #73, #24, #63, #17]

Philo is of course reliant upon an underlying Torah technology as encyclical
Kabbalistic hierarchical architecture as celestial order of Angels/Daemons
obtained from an annagrammation of the Biblcial text [Exodus 14:19-21] which
he asserts comprises a Solar/Chronos and deeming or reasoning rationale.
This encyclical architecuture, sustained by a jurisprudent usage of a number
schema impregnate his various treatises and their correspondence, support of
a self-evident claim of referential integrity and authority.

Philo suggests within element #52 of his treatise 'On Cherubim', that what
makes you effeminate is the embrace of the outward senses or sense
perception [#39, #39, #73, #52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin, #35,
#48, #79, #6, #61]. And which he in his treatise titled 'On Abraham',
further equates in element #73 with the esoteric explanation to be reserved
for the few who choose for the subjects of their investigation the
dispositions of the soul {

ie. [#72, #63, #75, #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81]
as the lofty philosophy which investigates the events which take place in
the air , and the sublime nature of the beings which exist in heaven, which
mathematical science claims for itself as the most excellent part of natural
philosophy. Of the things 'which are perceptible only by the intellect, the
number seven is proved to be the only thing free from motion and accident;
but among things perceptible by the external senses, it displays a great and
comprehensive power, contributing to the improvement of all terrestrial
things.' [Philo, On Creation: XXXIV 101] ([#2])

}, and not the forms of the bodies. And thereby, in connection to an
explanation to be given to the multitude, connects 'the five cities of the
land of Sodom {their secret; their cement}' with a figurative representation
of the five outward senses which exist in us, the organs of the pleasures,
by the instrumentality of which all the pleasures whether great or small are
brought to perfect." [Philo , On Abraham, XXIX]


- dolf
- <>

From: ***@ArmyofGod.com
Date: 8 Oct 2005 13:19:09 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.

God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:22-27

V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.

V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature:

V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:8-10

V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
"Qolon" <***@iprimus.net> wrote in message news:***@news.iprimus.com.au...
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.

Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-

(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;

This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
material:

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.

Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.

(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.

Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.

I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.

- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR

"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
<***@hotmail.com>, Date: 8 Oct 2005 03:57:14 -0700]

From: "Peacenik" <***@hotmail.com>
Organization: SeedNet
Message-ID: news:di7sau$brs$***@news.seed.net.tw
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.

Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.

Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.

From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Message-ID: <news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.

From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.

Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."

"Richard Dawkins" <***@Hell.com> wrote in message news:8AG0f.53$***@news.uswest.net...
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!

Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.

Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!

Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.

The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"

http://www.tencommandments.org/
Barry OGrady
2005-10-10 07:16:35 UTC
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falsely claim to be Christian, in that they unlawfully seek to impose their
God-forsaken trash upon those who preceed them in the Kingdom of Heaven and
who are otherwise capable of articulating an alternate theology which is
robust and has the answers to truth which they can only feign--AS THOUGH OUR
PRAISE TO GOD IS SUB-ORDINATE TO SUCH PRETENDERS.
The quasi-anonymous below user is peddling the usual grab bag 'proof-texts'
of quasi-Christian hymeneal mystical values, which are the basis for the
State of Religion as the engagement of moral relativism, replacement
theology and antagonism to Seventh-day Sabbatarianism that seeks to ignore
alternate and pre-eminent religious claims to the contrary as Everlasting
Covenant/Gospel, by imposing "fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes
one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the
individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and therefore
Constitutional right.
That's religious vilification.
Post by Qolon
Philo of Alexandria rightly asks, "And what wonder is there if the living
God is beyond the reach of the comprehension of man, when even the mind that
is in each of us is unintelligible and unknown to us? Who has ever beheld
the essence of soul? The obscure nature of which has given rise to an
infinite number of contests among the sophists brought forward opposite
opinions, some of which are inconsisent with any kind of nature. It was,
therefore, quite consistent with reason that no proper name could with
propriety be assigned to him who is in truth the living God.
Do you not see that to the prophet who is really desirous of making an
honest inquiry after the truth, and who asks what answer he is to give to
those who question him as to the name of him who has sent him {ie.
Compare to: "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten-MONOGENES
{as gematric/isopsephy equivalent value (2 x 8) + 300 + (3 x 10) {ie.
HRUMACHIS = #330 as Ison(omia) - 'Equilibrium, equal distribution, balance,
equality of political rights'} + 7 = #353} Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he has declared him." [John 1:17-18]
}, he says, 'I am that I am' which is equivalent to saying, 'It is my nature
to be, not to be described by name.' [Exodus 7:17]. But in order that the
human race may not be wholly destitute of any appellation which they may
give to the most excellent of beings, I allow you to use the words Lord as a
name, the Lord God of three natures--of instruction, and of holiness, and
the practice of virtue; of which Abraham [#80, #53, #72, #32 - Natural
Guide/ The Virtue of Holiness, #16, #35, #75, #22, #43], and Isaac [#33,
#36, #23, #43 - Absolute Negation/ It's Universal Application, #67, #4, #1,
#21, #44] and Jacob [#28, #23, #55, #54 - Culturing Perspectives/ The
Cultivation of Intuition, #50, #27, #2, #42, #45] are recorded as the
symbols.
For this {ie. as the 22 generations from Adam to Jacob}, says he, is the
everlasting name, as if it has been investigated and discerned in time as it
exists in reference to us, and not in that time which was before all time;
and it is also a memorial not placed beyond recollection or intelligence,
and again it is addressed to persons who have been born, not to uncreated
natures." [Philo of Alexandria, 'On the Change of Names' 11-12, Yonge
1993:342]
Thus whilst Philo of Alexandria, expresses within the daemon correspondence
to the Angel of Sitael: Samek (#60), Yod (#10), Teth (#9) = [#79 -
Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations] as the equivalent of the
Latin: Laetabundus {God the hope of all creatures} Alt: Hacheshyah {Silence
of God}, that Eden {desire} is the habitation synonymous with joy within
inner being, from whence: "God cast out Adam {Taken from 4 corners; earthy;
red} [and Eve {Because she was the mother of all living}], and placed him
opposite the paradise of happiness; and he placed there the Cherubim and a
flaming sword, which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
[Genesis 3:24]" [Philo's Treatise of 'On Cherubim', 1].
[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture, #1, #23, #15, #62, #16]
#5 - Natural Guidance/ Function of Emptiness
#78 - Recognizing Fidelity/ Trust in Faith
#77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason
#14 - Metaphysical Issues/ Praising the Mysterious
#1 * To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations
#67 - Three Treasures
#41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
#19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity
vMeme Object Probability Function {Act of Nature}(
{Act of Nature}(
{Transforming Nature}
)
) // Strategic Plane Five: vOrange (#1)
I-Ching Hex: 58 - Joy
Tetragram: 24 - Joy
Such imagery of banishment from before the face of God, which Philo appears
to frequently deploy [cf: Adam, Cain, Hagar] as associations to both the
cosmological order, reason and the encyclical sciences, in that regard, is
consistent with the interpretation of 6th Century BCE Chinese philosopher
Lao Tzu understanding of the HSUAN-Mystery related to the 'creative aspect
"What has no name is the beginning of Heaven and Earth. What has a name is
the mother of the myriad creatures. Those without desires contemplate its
secrets. Those who have desires contemplate its periphery. These two emerge
together, but different in name. Being together, they are called 'Mystery.'
Mystery upon mystery, gateway to the myriad secrets." [Lao Zsu #1 - To Guide
with Names/ Reason's Realisation]
"And it follows of necessity that when the mind goes forth from any
imagination of God, by which it would be good and expedient for it to be
supported, then immediately, after the fashion of a ship, which is tossed in
the sea, when the winds oppose it with great violence, it is tossed about in
every direction {ie. Symbolic of wickedness agitating the soul, and the
other of virtue which creates for the soul a state of tranquility and
happiness, not meaning by happiness that effeminate luxury which is derived
from the indulgence of the irrational passion of pleasure, but a joy free
from toil and free from hardship, which is enjoyed with great tranquility},
having disturbance as it were for its country and its home, a thing which is
the most contrary of all things to steadiness of soul, which is engendered
by joy, which is a term synonymous with Eden {pleasure; delight}." [#69, #3,
#53, #13 - Status/ Loathing Shame, #63, #73, #24, #63, #17]
Philo is of course reliant upon an underlying Torah technology as encyclical
Kabbalistic hierarchical architecture as celestial order of Angels/Daemons
obtained from an annagrammation of the Biblcial text [Exodus 14:19-21] which
he asserts comprises a Solar/Chronos and deeming or reasoning rationale.
This encyclical architecuture, sustained by a jurisprudent usage of a number
schema impregnate his various treatises and their correspondence, support of
a self-evident claim of referential integrity and authority.
Philo suggests within element #52 of his treatise 'On Cherubim', that what
makes you effeminate is the embrace of the outward senses or sense
perception [#39, #39, #73, #52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin, #35,
#48, #79, #6, #61]. And which he in his treatise titled 'On Abraham',
further equates in element #73 with the esoteric explanation to be reserved
for the few who choose for the subjects of their investigation the
dispositions of the soul {
ie. [#72, #63, #75, #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81]
as the lofty philosophy which investigates the events which take place in
the air , and the sublime nature of the beings which exist in heaven, which
mathematical science claims for itself as the most excellent part of natural
philosophy. Of the things 'which are perceptible only by the intellect, the
number seven is proved to be the only thing free from motion and accident;
but among things perceptible by the external senses, it displays a great and
comprehensive power, contributing to the improvement of all terrestrial
things.' [Philo, On Creation: XXXIV 101] ([#2])
}, and not the forms of the bodies. And thereby, in connection to an
explanation to be given to the multitude, connects 'the five cities of the
land of Sodom {their secret; their cement}' with a figurative representation
of the five outward senses which exist in us, the organs of the pleasures,
by the instrumentality of which all the pleasures whether great or small are
brought to perfect." [Philo , On Abraham, XXIX]
- dolf
- <>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 13:19:09 -0700
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:22-27
V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.
V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
1 Timothy 1:8-10
V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
Organization: SeedNet
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/
Barry
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2005-10-28 04:02:19 UTC
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I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
Does anyone know what Dolf is trying to say?
I think Dolf is using one of those buzzword generators.
Post by Qolon
- dolf
Barry
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Andrealphus
2005-10-28 04:08:56 UTC
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Post by Qolon
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it
offensive to have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth
of Australia under Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an
Act to amend the Marriage Act 1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks
to impose "fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes one can
build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the
individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
Does anyone know what Dolf is trying to say?
I think Dolf is using one of those buzzword generators.
Who knows. The guy is an idiot and tosses around a lot of bullshit in an
effort to hide the fact that he's an idiot.

Know one really cares that much anyway.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
Diana BB
2005-10-28 07:14:15 UTC
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Post by Qolon
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
Does anyone know what Dolf is trying to say?
I think Dolf is using one of those buzzword generators.
Does anyone ever know what Dolf is trying to say?
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Qolon
- dolf
Barry
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Qolon
2005-10-28 15:49:55 UTC
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I thought it important to remind you since your fascist conduct conveys the
truth that ANZACS died in vain, is the view that if under the Australian
Constitution, God is my right, why then am I being subject to injury by
people of religion {ie. whether holding or not holding a lawful religious
belief or view}.

- dolf
Post by Barry OGrady
Does anyone know what Dolf is trying to say?
I think Dolf is using one of those buzzword generators.
Does anyone ever know what Dolf is trying to say?

QOLON NOTE:
Church Board & Church Pastor
Seventh-day Adventist Church

Sale Victoria 3850

25 October 2005

1. I have recently returned to the Wellington Shire region after an absence
of some 27 years.

2. It is unlikely though that I will again seek to attend the Seventh-day
Adventist Church or any other religious gathering, whilst the Seventh-day
Adventist Church remains reluctant to provide an apology for past instances
of child sexual abuse by a former elder of the church-a Mr. Bill Hughes,
since deceased.

3. The substance of the matter was conveyed several years prior at a meeting
convened at the Victorian Conference offices, Nunawading with Mr. Richard
Berry as head elder and retired clergy Mr. Dean Giles. At the time, there
was exhibited a vehement disdain for my life-circumstance which has, with
fidelity, been singularly of a homosexual orientation. And given that the
perpetrator of those alleged abuses had already seen his last days within
the comfort of a church based aged care facility; it simply provided further
opportunity for apathy as failure in giving adequate attention to my
complaint.

4. It is my experience after some 10 years of public Internet based
discourse within Seventh-day Adventist and other Christian identifying
www-based, list-server and newsgroup forums, that this unreasoned clime of
vehement disdain, societal exclusion and public excoriation isn't just a
parochial demur, but a pervading culture as antagonism being due to the
natural consensus as ill-informed presumption, that such values in varying
degrees are pre-requisite to any claim of religious belief.

5. The Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission had, with respect to a
complaint concerning the refusal of membership by the North Fitzroy
Seventh-day Adventist Church at a Board Meeting of 11 February 1998,
suggests that: "The reasons as to why your application was refused do
indicate that your sexual orientation was a factor. However, the Seventh-day
Adventist Church appears to be covered by an exception provided in section
75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995. This section allows the Church
to discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid injury to
the religious sensitivities of the people of the religion. The Church has
submitted that your position on homosexuality will divert members from the
purpose and goal of the church. It would appear that section 75(2)(b)
applies." [Letter from Diane Sisley, Chief Executive, Equal Opportunity
Commission of Victoria 26 April 2001]

6. My objection concerns not only the Constitutionality of such reasoning,
but the degree to which the free and lawful exercise of any discretion by
people of religion remains in accordance with the epigrammatic expression as
foundational principle as sovereign and autonomous right of our justice
system: 'If God is my right, why then am I being subject to injury by people
of religion?'

7. Firstly the consideration that religious belief, thought and conscience
as a sovereign and autonomous {ie. autos / one's true self, the soul + nomos
/ Torah; containing its own principles of self-governance} values expression
consistently understood by Seventh-day Adventists as Christian community of
faith being established upon the transcendent and chronological principle of
Nature known as the 7th day Sabbath of the Decalogue, are somehow
antagonistic to the natural, regulative and metempirical principles of good
governance as 'certain powers, functions, and authorities' declared to be
vested within 'the office of Governor General and Commander in chief over
Our said Commonwealth of Australia' and to whom, according to paragraph 8 of
the letters patent to the Australian Constitution of 1901, 'all other the
inhabitants of Our said Commonwealth [are] to be obedient, aiding, and
assisting', may be considered absurd.

8. Such a chronological expression of religious belief, gnosis and
cosmologic order as governance proposes not only a teleological argument for
the basis of our understanding of the existence of God, but conveys by
expression of a relationship between the LOGOS and INFINITY as the Common
Law (Koinos Nomos) of the Stoics, a universal Christological, taxonomical
and chronological statement which is intrinsic to and remains consistent
with the Scripture's underlying Genesis cosmology and cosmogony:

72J + 3(3²+1)/2 [2W1D] = 457 BCE
72J2W1D + 490 years = 33 CE

12 x 6J {an implied Wednesday 20 March equinox/new moon cycle as 294 year
'oth [24 x 7 x 13 = 2184] priestly cycle} = 72J as 472 BCE
72J + 9(9²+1)/2 = 103 BCE
72J + 10(10²+1)/2 = 33 CE

ARCH = 22/7 as 3W1D with an implied Wednesday 20 March equinox/new moon as
294 year 'oth [24 x 7 x 13 = 2184] priestly cycle
#[X] = + 9(9²+1)/2 as #369 with 7 x #41 centre (#41 = 13 to 17 September
2001)
TELOS = Solar eclipse Monday 25 December 2000 (122J3W1D) + 6 days = 20 x 6J
+ 2J + 3W1D (22 years)

- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/images/nous1.jpg>

Within DAOIST thought the great virtue of Heaven as Yang: male has mastery
over the great beginning of things [#32, #28, #14, #44 - Moderate Values/
Setting Up Precepts, #15 - Mastering Guiding Discourse/ The Revealers of
Virtue, #30, #44, #43, #36] and Yin: Earth as female brings things to
completion [#2, #47, #10, #50 - Fantasies of Avoiding Death/ The Estimation
of Life, #9 - The Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising Placidity, #47, #7,
#14, #77] is called 'generation' when things are Zhun [Birth Throes] born:

vMeme/Moment Kabbalistic Homoiotic Noumenon Entry: (33CE - INR)
#3 - Prescriptions for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet,
#20 - Left without Language/ Different From the Vulgar,
#52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin,
#73 - Employing Deeming/ Daring to Act,
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations,
#1 - To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation,
#16 - Being a Guide/ Returning to the Root,
#35 - Great Guiding Signs?/ Virtue of Benevolence,
#7 - Intentional Reversal/ Dimming Radiance

As number 'Zhuan' meaning to enumerate or calculate using the Kabbalistic
techniques of Notarikon and Gematria for the Latin: I (#9) N (#40) R (#80) =
129 % 81 = #48 - Forgetting/ Forgetting Knowledge as Jesus of Nazareth, King
of the Jews [Matthew 27:37; Mark 15:26; John 19:19; Luke 23:38] which
becomes embodied in them [#47, #68, #67, #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ The
Virtue of Gravity, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government,
#25, #52, #55, #3].

The usage of 81 elements to represent the calendar as 364.5 day (+
intercalation) appraisals occurred during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220
CE). The sifen (quarter remainder) calendar, which began about 484 BCE, was
the first calculated Chinese calendar, so named because it used a solar year
of 365.25 days, along with a 19-year = 235-month Rule Cycle, known in the
West as the metonic cycle. Thus the technique is perhaps older than its
articulation with the 'Canon of Supreme Mystery' (T'ai hsuan ching) by Yang
Hsung (53 BCE - 18 CE), which first appeared in draft form around 4 BCE.

8. Historically within Australia, there was not opposition to the inclusion
of a specific religious clause as expression of liberty that was adopted as
Section 116 of the Australian Constitution of 1901 as the foundational
document conveying the Principles of Natural and Regulative Philosophy
articulated by the Letters Patent to said Australian Constitution of 1901:

a) "The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion:
Nature contains Nature {Nature amended in its Nature},

b) or for imposing any religious observance: Nature rejoices in its Nature
{Act of Nature},

c) or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion: Nature surmounts
Nature {Form of Nature},

d) and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office
or public trust under the Commonwealth: Nature amended in its Nature
{Engendering Nature}" [Section 116 -- The Australian Constitution of 1901,
Chapter V - States, as in force on 1 July 1999]

9. A view could therefore be formed, that Section 116 of the Australian
Constitution of 1901 manifestly expressly prohibits any Australian
Government from establishing, imposing, prohibiting or ensuring compliance
to religious values such as the practice of peddling 'hymeneal mysticism and
Sunday Sacredness' as the malaise and complacency of a Religion of State
which advances a social agenda as claim to piety that is otherwise
indistinguishable from Adolf Hitler's religious philosophy as expressed by
his 4 Nuremberg Laws introduced from 1935, which gave legislative authority
to fascism. Anglican Archbishop Dr. Peter Jensen at the annual session of
the Sydney Diocese Synod held on 10 October 2005 advances such an
ecclesiastic social agenda when he falsely implies that Sunday as the basis
for 'Christian Fellowship', not only has sanctity but is a mandate: "Sunday
and Christian fellowship seems to be an optional extra".

10. Such sentiments are symptomatic of a dishonest, fraudulent religious
dialog of exclusion and irreconcilably against our sovereign, autonomous,
moral, metaphysical and therefore Australian Constitutional and Democratic
right. That the "invention and carry out of political Constitutions
independently of religion" is in point of fact shown to be a complete
fallacy by the historical reality of the Church of England Act No. 45/1854.
Which was an Act enabling the Bishops, Clergy and Laity of the United Church
of England and Ireland in Victoria to provide for the regulation of the
affairs of the said Church.

11. According to Georg Hegel's (1770-1841 CE) observations, this 'folly' as
the pretending to carry out political Constitutions independently of
religion arises in part due to, the Catholic confession, although sharing
the Christian name with the Protestant, not conceding to the State an
inherent Justice and Morality-a concession which in the Protestant principle
is fundamental. Therefore the tearing away of the political morality of the
Constitution from its natural connection, is necessary to the genius of that
religion, inasmuch as it does not recognize Justice and Morality as
independent and substantial-But thus excluded from intrinsic worth, torn
away from their last refuge, the sanctuary of conscience, the calm retreat
where religion has its abode, the principles and institutions of political
legislation are destitute of a real centre, to the same degree as they are
compelled to remain abstract and indefinite. [cf: Hegel 'Introduction - The
Philosophy of History', ISBN 0-87975-631-4, p 52]

12. The organization is no doubt aware of my capacity to articulate a
religious belief thought and conscience as values expression (see documents
on enclosed CD ROM titled 'GRAPPLE') represented mathematically by a
sevenfold vMeme/Moment Kabbalistic 9(92+1)/2 = #369 Matrix, 8th -
Transformative Plane as 'Heterosquare (Spirogyra Order)' and the 9th -
Autonomous Plane as Chinese Daoist 'Solar Year Mystery Transitions' of 4 BCE
as regime of religious/political governance deployed by the Han Dynasty of
206 BCE to 220 CE, being the basis for a theological, metaphysical
philosophical and chronological retort-A 369 day chronological and
mathematical matrix known from antiquity as the Merkabah (ie. Kabbalistic)
mystical (transcendent and metaphysical) foundation for a perennial
solar/lunar [ie. 9(92+1)/2 (#369) - 3(32+1)/2 (#15) = 354 lunar cycle] and
organizational philosophy uniting reason and faith and mechanism for
governance as the natural, regulative, metempirical and jurisprudent
philosophical principles underpinning our Australian Constitution and
legislative framework [#51, #66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/
Administration of Government, #31 - Military Strategies as Guides/ Quelling
War, #62, #40, #57, #21].

- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/images/nous.gif>

13. This vMeme / Moment Kabbalistic Paradigm is a biopsychological and
ethical theological model, which as homoiotic noumenon, is the
trans-experiential object onto which to map time-based phenomenon and offers
a heuristic for empirical inductive or metaphysical deductive intuition and
rational decision-making. As such an 'a priori' based teleological argument
transcends and negates any rational and un-substantiated claim to religious
and corporate belief that the practice of Institutional religious belief can
make.

14. Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminent and autonomous claim to a
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-

(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;

This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the Internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
material:

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.

Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the Internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.

(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-

(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.

15. Thus it raises the possibility, given the Victorian Civil and
Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) 17 December 2004 ruling [#72, #63, #75, #4 -
Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81] that an Evangelical and
Fundamentalist (ie. Pentecostal) Christian Community of Faith known as
'Catch the Fire Ministries' who also fielded an unsuccessful senate
candidate for the Family First party in the Federal Election of 9 October
2004, vilified Muslims.

16. And may therefore also provide a legal precedent that is sufficient to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians. Who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning
and derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.

17. Accordingly I look forward to having the following considerations being
addressed by the Church board of the Seventh-day Adventist Church:

a) A formal apology provided by the Seventh-day Adventist Church for their
failure as duty of care, to adequately investigate the misconduct of a
church elder engaging in sexually offensive behavior towards children.

b) My expression of the comprehensive theological metaphysical paradigm as
the basis of religious belief and gnosis, is compliant with the principles
of our Australian Constitution and legislative framework, therefore section
75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995 which 'allows the Church to
discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid injury to the
religious sensitivities of the people of the religion' cannot be said to
apply in the matter as consideration of intrinsic being.

c) Correspondence dated 26 April 2001 from Diane Sisley, Chief Executive,
Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission of Victoria, expressed the
view that ".the Church has submitted that my position on homosexuality will
divert members from the purpose and goal of the church." This is in fact a
slanderous and false characterization, which as fascist apologetics
expresses the Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission's essential
character.

Consequently I am seeking substantiation or retraction of the vexatious
claim made by the Seventh-day Adventist Church, "that my position on
homosexuality will divert members from the purpose and goal of the church."

18. As these matters will require a detailed consideration by the Church
Board in compliance to your rules of Association, I don't expect that you
will be able to respond by 30 April 2006. Following such time, should your
considerations be deemed fruitless and inadequate, further legal advice will
be sought with the view of advancing a claim related to duplicitous denial
of justice and an unconscionable infringement of autonomous and
Constitutional rights.

Yours Sincerely


- dolf
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/sybilline.html>
Midjis
2005-10-28 09:42:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by Qolon
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive
to have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia
under Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the
Marriage Act 1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose
"fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes one can build for
all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the individual`s
sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and therefore
Constitutional right.
Does anyone know what Dolf is trying to say?
I think Dolf is using one of those buzzword generators.
Based on the segment you have quoted here, dolf is saying nothing at all.
Qolon
2005-10-28 15:43:04 UTC
Permalink
I thought it important to remind you since your fascist conduct conveys the
truth that ANZACS died in vain, is the view that if under the Australian
Constitution, God is my right, why then am I being subject to injury by
people of religion {ie. whether holding or not holding a lawful religious
belief or view}.

- dolf

"Barry OGrady" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
Does anyone know what Dolf is trying to say?
I think Dolf is using one of those buzzword generators.

QOLON NOTE:
Church Board & Church Pastor
Seventh-day Adventist Church

Sale Victoria 3850

25 October 2005

1. I have recently returned to the Wellington Shire region after an absence
of some 27 years.

2. It is unlikely though that I will again seek to attend the Seventh-day
Adventist Church or any other religious gathering, whilst the Seventh-day
Adventist Church remains reluctant to provide an apology for past instances
of child sexual abuse by a former elder of the church-a Mr. Bill Hughes,
since deceased.

3. The substance of the matter was conveyed several years prior at a meeting
convened at the Victorian Conference offices, Nunawading with Mr. Richard
Berry as head elder and retired clergy Mr. Dean Giles. At the time, there
was exhibited a vehement disdain for my life-circumstance which has, with
fidelity, been singularly of a homosexual orientation. And given that the
perpetrator of those alleged abuses had already seen his last days within
the comfort of a church based aged care facility; it simply provided further
opportunity for apathy as failure in giving adequate attention to my
complaint.

4. It is my experience after some 10 years of public Internet based
discourse within Seventh-day Adventist and other Christian identifying
www-based, list-server and newsgroup forums, that this unreasoned clime of
vehement disdain, societal exclusion and public excoriation isn't just a
parochial demur, but a pervading culture as antagonism being due to the
natural consensus as ill-informed presumption, that such values in varying
degrees are pre-requisite to any claim of religious belief.

5. The Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission had, with respect to a
complaint concerning the refusal of membership by the North Fitzroy
Seventh-day Adventist Church at a Board Meeting of 11 February 1998,
suggests that: "The reasons as to why your application was refused do
indicate that your sexual orientation was a factor. However, the Seventh-day
Adventist Church appears to be covered by an exception provided in section
75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995. This section allows the Church
to discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid injury to
the religious sensitivities of the people of the religion. The Church has
submitted that your position on homosexuality will divert members from the
purpose and goal of the church. It would appear that section 75(2)(b)
applies." [Letter from Diane Sisley, Chief Executive, Equal Opportunity
Commission of Victoria 26 April 2001]

6. My objection concerns not only the Constitutionality of such reasoning,
but the degree to which the free and lawful exercise of any discretion by
people of religion remains in accordance with the epigrammatic expression as
foundational principle as sovereign and autonomous right of our justice
system: 'If God is my right, why then am I being subject to injury by people
of religion?'

7. Firstly the consideration that religious belief, thought and conscience
as a sovereign and autonomous {ie. autos / one's true self, the soul + nomos
/ Torah; containing its own principles of self-governance} values expression
consistently understood by Seventh-day Adventists as Christian community of
faith being established upon the transcendent and chronological principle of
Nature known as the 7th day Sabbath of the Decalogue, are somehow
antagonistic to the natural, regulative and metempirical principles of good
governance as 'certain powers, functions, and authorities' declared to be
vested within 'the office of Governor General and Commander in chief over
Our said Commonwealth of Australia' and to whom, according to paragraph 8 of
the letters patent to the Australian Constitution of 1901, 'all other the
inhabitants of Our said Commonwealth [are] to be obedient, aiding, and
assisting', may be considered absurd.

8. Such a chronological expression of religious belief, gnosis and
cosmologic order as governance proposes not only a teleological argument for
the basis of our understanding of the existence of God, but conveys by
expression of a relationship between the LOGOS and INFINITY as the Common
Law (Koinos Nomos) of the Stoics, a universal Christological, taxonomical
and chronological statement which is intrinsic to and remains consistent
with the Scripture's underlying Genesis cosmology and cosmogony:

72J + 3(3²+1)/2 [2W1D] = 457 BCE
72J2W1D + 490 years = 33 CE

12 x 6J {an implied Wednesday 20 March equinox/new moon cycle as 294 year
'oth [24 x 7 x 13 = 2184] priestly cycle} = 72J as 472 BCE
72J + 9(9²+1)/2 = 103 BCE
72J + 10(10²+1)/2 = 33 CE

ARCH = 22/7 as 3W1D with an implied Wednesday 20 March equinox/new moon as
294 year 'oth [24 x 7 x 13 = 2184] priestly cycle
#[X] = + 9(9²+1)/2 as #369 with 7 x #41 centre (#41 = 13 to 17 September
2001)
TELOS = Solar eclipse Monday 25 December 2000 (122J3W1D) + 6 days = 20 x 6J
+ 2J + 3W1D (22 years)

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Within DAOIST thought the great virtue of Heaven as Yang: male has mastery
over the great beginning of things [#32, #28, #14, #44 - Moderate Values/
Setting Up Precepts, #15 - Mastering Guiding Discourse/ The Revealers of
Virtue, #30, #44, #43, #36] and Yin: Earth as female brings things to
completion [#2, #47, #10, #50 - Fantasies of Avoiding Death/ The Estimation
of Life, #9 - The Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising Placidity, #47, #7,
#14, #77] is called 'generation' when things are Zhun [Birth Throes] born:

vMeme/Moment Kabbalistic Homoiotic Noumenon Entry: (33CE - INR)
#3 - Prescriptions for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet,
#20 - Left without Language/ Different From the Vulgar,
#52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin,
#73 - Employing Deeming/ Daring to Act,
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations,
#1 - To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation,
#16 - Being a Guide/ Returning to the Root,
#35 - Great Guiding Signs?/ Virtue of Benevolence,
#7 - Intentional Reversal/ Dimming Radiance

As number 'Zhuan' meaning to enumerate or calculate using the Kabbalistic
techniques of Notarikon and Gematria for the Latin: I (#9) N (#40) R (#80) =
129 % 81 = #48 - Forgetting/ Forgetting Knowledge as Jesus of Nazareth, King
of the Jews [Matthew 27:37; Mark 15:26; John 19:19; Luke 23:38] which
becomes embodied in them [#47, #68, #67, #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ The
Virtue of Gravity, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government,
#25, #52, #55, #3].

The usage of 81 elements to represent the calendar as 364.5 day (+
intercalation) appraisals occurred during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220
CE). The sifen (quarter remainder) calendar, which began about 484 BCE, was
the first calculated Chinese calendar, so named because it used a solar year
of 365.25 days, along with a 19-year = 235-month Rule Cycle, known in the
West as the metonic cycle. Thus the technique is perhaps older than its
articulation with the 'Canon of Supreme Mystery' (T'ai hsuan ching) by Yang
Hsung (53 BCE - 18 CE), which first appeared in draft form around 4 BCE.

8. Historically within Australia, there was not opposition to the inclusion
of a specific religious clause as expression of liberty that was adopted as
Section 116 of the Australian Constitution of 1901 as the foundational
document conveying the Principles of Natural and Regulative Philosophy
articulated by the Letters Patent to said Australian Constitution of 1901:

a) "The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion:
Nature contains Nature {Nature amended in its Nature},

b) or for imposing any religious observance: Nature rejoices in its Nature
{Act of Nature},

c) or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion: Nature surmounts
Nature {Form of Nature},

d) and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office
or public trust under the Commonwealth: Nature amended in its Nature
{Engendering Nature}" [Section 116 -- The Australian Constitution of 1901,
Chapter V - States, as in force on 1 July 1999]

9. A view could therefore be formed, that Section 116 of the Australian
Constitution of 1901 manifestly expressly prohibits any Australian
Government from establishing, imposing, prohibiting or ensuring compliance
to religious values such as the practice of peddling 'hymeneal mysticism and
Sunday Sacredness' as the malaise and complacency of a Religion of State
which advances a social agenda as claim to piety that is otherwise
indistinguishable from Adolf Hitler's religious philosophy as expressed by
his 4 Nuremberg Laws introduced from 1935, which gave legislative authority
to fascism. Anglican Archbishop Dr. Peter Jensen at the annual session of
the Sydney Diocese Synod held on 10 October 2005 advances such an
ecclesiastic social agenda when he falsely implies that Sunday as the basis
for 'Christian Fellowship', not only has sanctity but is a mandate: "Sunday
and Christian fellowship seems to be an optional extra".

10. Such sentiments are symptomatic of a dishonest, fraudulent religious
dialog of exclusion and irreconcilably against our sovereign, autonomous,
moral, metaphysical and therefore Australian Constitutional and Democratic
right. That the "invention and carry out of political Constitutions
independently of religion" is in point of fact shown to be a complete
fallacy by the historical reality of the Church of England Act No. 45/1854.
Which was an Act enabling the Bishops, Clergy and Laity of the United Church
of England and Ireland in Victoria to provide for the regulation of the
affairs of the said Church.

11. According to Georg Hegel's (1770-1841 CE) observations, this 'folly' as
the pretending to carry out political Constitutions independently of
religion arises in part due to, the Catholic confession, although sharing
the Christian name with the Protestant, not conceding to the State an
inherent Justice and Morality-a concession which in the Protestant principle
is fundamental. Therefore the tearing away of the political morality of the
Constitution from its natural connection, is necessary to the genius of that
religion, inasmuch as it does not recognize Justice and Morality as
independent and substantial-But thus excluded from intrinsic worth, torn
away from their last refuge, the sanctuary of conscience, the calm retreat
where religion has its abode, the principles and institutions of political
legislation are destitute of a real centre, to the same degree as they are
compelled to remain abstract and indefinite. [cf: Hegel 'Introduction - The
Philosophy of History', ISBN 0-87975-631-4, p 52]

12. The organization is no doubt aware of my capacity to articulate a
religious belief thought and conscience as values expression (see documents
on enclosed CD ROM titled 'GRAPPLE') represented mathematically by a
sevenfold vMeme/Moment Kabbalistic 9(92+1)/2 = #369 Matrix, 8th -
Transformative Plane as 'Heterosquare (Spirogyra Order)' and the 9th -
Autonomous Plane as Chinese Daoist 'Solar Year Mystery Transitions' of 4 BCE
as regime of religious/political governance deployed by the Han Dynasty of
206 BCE to 220 CE, being the basis for a theological, metaphysical
philosophical and chronological retort-A 369 day chronological and
mathematical matrix known from antiquity as the Merkabah (ie. Kabbalistic)
mystical (transcendent and metaphysical) foundation for a perennial
solar/lunar [ie. 9(92+1)/2 (#369) - 3(32+1)/2 (#15) = 354 lunar cycle] and
organizational philosophy uniting reason and faith and mechanism for
governance as the natural, regulative, metempirical and jurisprudent
philosophical principles underpinning our Australian Constitution and
legislative framework [#51, #66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/
Administration of Government, #31 - Military Strategies as Guides/ Quelling
War, #62, #40, #57, #21].

- <Loading Image...>

13. This vMeme / Moment Kabbalistic Paradigm is a biopsychological and
ethical theological model, which as homoiotic noumenon, is the
trans-experiential object onto which to map time-based phenomenon and offers
a heuristic for empirical inductive or metaphysical deductive intuition and
rational decision-making. As such an 'a priori' based teleological argument
transcends and negates any rational and un-substantiated claim to religious
and corporate belief that the practice of Institutional religious belief can
make.

14. Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminent and autonomous claim to a
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-

(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;

This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the Internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
material:

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.

Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the Internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.

(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-

(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.

15. Thus it raises the possibility, given the Victorian Civil and
Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) 17 December 2004 ruling [#72, #63, #75, #4 -
Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81] that an Evangelical and
Fundamentalist (ie. Pentecostal) Christian Community of Faith known as
'Catch the Fire Ministries' who also fielded an unsuccessful senate
candidate for the Family First party in the Federal Election of 9 October
2004, vilified Muslims.

16. And may therefore also provide a legal precedent that is sufficient to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians. Who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning
and derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.

17. Accordingly I look forward to having the following considerations being
addressed by the Church board of the Seventh-day Adventist Church:

a) A formal apology provided by the Seventh-day Adventist Church for their
failure as duty of care, to adequately investigate the misconduct of a
church elder engaging in sexually offensive behavior towards children.

b) My expression of the comprehensive theological metaphysical paradigm as
the basis of religious belief and gnosis, is compliant with the principles
of our Australian Constitution and legislative framework, therefore section
75(2)(b) of the Equal Opportunity Act 1995 which 'allows the Church to
discriminate against a person where it is necessary to avoid injury to the
religious sensitivities of the people of the religion' cannot be said to
apply in the matter as consideration of intrinsic being.

c) Correspondence dated 26 April 2001 from Diane Sisley, Chief Executive,
Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission of Victoria, expressed the
view that ".the Church has submitted that my position on homosexuality will
divert members from the purpose and goal of the church." This is in fact a
slanderous and false characterization, which as fascist apologetics
expresses the Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission's essential
character.

Consequently I am seeking substantiation or retraction of the vexatious
claim made by the Seventh-day Adventist Church, "that my position on
homosexuality will divert members from the purpose and goal of the church."

18. As these matters will require a detailed consideration by the Church
Board in compliance to your rules of Association, I don't expect that you
will be able to respond by 30 April 2006. Following such time, should your
considerations be deemed fruitless and inadequate, further legal advice will
be sought with the view of advancing a claim related to duplicitous denial
of justice and an unconscionable infringement of autonomous and
Constitutional rights.

Yours Sincerely


- dolf
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/sybilline.html>
The Secretary of HomInt3rn
2005-10-29 04:26:17 UTC
Permalink
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Post by Qolon
I thought it important to remind you since your fascist conduct conveys
the truth that ANZACS died in vain, is the view that if under the
Australian Constitution, God is my right, why then am I being subject to
injury by people of religion {ie. whether holding or not holding a lawful
religious belief or view}.
Never mind all that guff you posted below (and which I snipped), what are
you trying to say in *the above paragraph*??? "Lawful religious beliefs or
views"? What, you have *un*lawful religious beliefs or views? You're in the
wrong country, mate, it's that simple.
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant Cock-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
Midjis
2005-10-29 09:13:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Secretary of HomInt3rn
Never mind all that guff you posted below (and which I snipped), what
are you trying to say in *the above paragraph*??? "Lawful religious
beliefs or views"? What, you have *un*lawful religious beliefs or
views? You're in the wrong country, mate, it's that simple.
Qolon has long fancied himself the arbiter of right and wrong when it comes
to... well, everything. HE decides who can believe what, who can post to
this group, and what they can post. More than once he's brought the full
weight of his authority to bear on me and ordered me off the group.
Barry OGrady
2005-10-29 09:33:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Midjis
Post by The Secretary of HomInt3rn
Never mind all that guff you posted below (and which I snipped), what
are you trying to say in *the above paragraph*??? "Lawful religious
beliefs or views"? What, you have *un*lawful religious beliefs or
views? You're in the wrong country, mate, it's that simple.
Qolon has long fancied himself the arbiter of right and wrong when it comes
to... well, everything. HE decides who can believe what, who can post to
this group, and what they can post. More than once he's brought the full
weight of his authority to bear on me and ordered me off the group.
That's being kind. Dolf has had ISP accounts canceled in his attempts to
express his free speech without challenge.

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
The Secretary of HomInt3rn
2005-10-29 09:38:36 UTC
Permalink
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Post by Midjis
Post by The Secretary of HomInt3rn
Never mind all that guff you posted below (and which I snipped), what
are you trying to say in *the above paragraph*??? "Lawful religious
beliefs or views"? What, you have *un*lawful religious beliefs or
views? You're in the wrong country, mate, it's that simple.
Qolon has long fancied himself the arbiter of right and wrong when it comes
to... well, everything. HE decides who can believe what, who can post to
this group, and what they can post. More than once he's brought the full
weight of his authority to bear on me and ordered me off the group.
Wow, I guess I'd better stop believing stuff like this:

There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. There is no Erisian
Movement but The Erisian Movement and it is The Erisian Movement. And every
Golden Apple Corps is the beloved home of a Golden Worm.

and this:

All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in
some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some
sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and
meaningless in some sense.

At least, until he gives me *permission* to believe them!
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant Cock-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot; Cross-Poster for
Goddess
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
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