Discussion:
New standard from the west: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded 183 Times in one month
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ltlee1
2009-04-20 00:03:06 UTC
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http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-was-waterboarded-183-times-in-one-month/


"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
explains:

The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.

Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.

The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).

...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42. Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."


2005 Bradbury memo:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofinalredact30May05.pdf
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
2009-04-20 00:17:43 UTC
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"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
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ltlee1
2009-04-20 10:25:03 UTC
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On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.
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"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
2009-04-20 12:12:00 UTC
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Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
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http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
ltlee1
2009-04-20 12:36:03 UTC
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On Apr 20, 8:12 am, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
"Baptize" him 183 times in one month would do the cleansing. Right?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
2009-04-20 14:11:50 UTC
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On Apr 20, 8:12 am, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
"Baptize" him 183 times in one month would do the cleansing. Right?
Do you need a bath too?
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
AStext
2009-04-20 22:54:18 UTC
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On Apr 20, 8:12 am, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
"Baptize" him 183 times in one month would do the cleansing. Right?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.- Hide quoted text -
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Maybe KSM, the poor killer without a conscience that you are
infatuated with, should have been instead rendered to China as an
outsourcing, since they do these things so much better and for real?
With the added plus that it would never, ever be revealed to the
outside world.

But then, that wouldn't suit your obsessive anti western bigotry,
would it?
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
2009-04-21 08:16:36 UTC
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Post by AStext
Maybe KSM, the poor killer without a conscience that you are
infatuated with, should have been instead rendered to China as an
outsourcing, since they do these things so much better and for real?
With the added plus that it would never, ever be revealed to the
outside world.
That's actually a pretty good idea. I wonder if they'll take Malcum Fabian.
Post by AStext
But then, that wouldn't suit your obsessive anti western bigotry,
would it?
Arselifters and their dhimmis are like that.
--
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
AStext
2009-04-22 04:28:13 UTC
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On Apr 21, 6:16 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
Post by AStext
Maybe KSM, the poor killer without a conscience that you are
infatuated with, should have been instead rendered to China as an
outsourcing, since they do these things so much better and for real?
With the added plus that it would never, ever be revealed to the
outside world.
That's actually a pretty good idea. I wonder if they'll take Malcum Fabian.
We can only hope. Perhaps Rudd the Rude could arrange it with his
handler the Chinese propaganda minister?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
Post by AStext
But then, that wouldn't suit your obsessive anti western bigotry,
would it?
Arselifters and their dhimmis are like that.
He definitely seems like a dhimmi, the way he carries on quibbling and
carping and trying to excuse his masters for their atrocities.

But let's have more on the actual topic at hand, shall we?

(quote:)

The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands
by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that
the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader
Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding --
caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to
thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.

Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks
on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon,
you will know.”

According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department
memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the
thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to
use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a
building in Los Angeles.”

KSM was the mastermind of the first “hijacked-airliner” attacks on the
United States, which struck the World Trade Center in New York and the
Pentagon in Northern Virginia on Sept. 11, 2001.

After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially
cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda
leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named
Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by
the CIA. (Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other
“enhanced techniques” that included slapping, sleep deprivation,
dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but
not to water-boarding.)

This was because the CIA imposed very tight restrictions on the use of
waterboarding. “The ‘waterboard,’ which is the most intense of the CIA
interrogation techniques, is subject to additional limits,” explained
the May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo. “It may be used on a High
Value Detainee only if the CIA has ‘credible intelligence that a
terrorist attack is imminent’; ‘substantial and credible indicators
that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt
or deny this attack’; and ‘[o]ther interrogation methods have failed
to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for
preventing the attack.’”

The quotations in this part of the Justice memo were taken from an
Aug. 2, 2004 letter that CIA Acting General Counsel John A. Rizzo sent
to the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel.

Before they were subjected to “enhanced techniques” of interrogation
that included waterboarding, KSM and Zubaydah were not only
uncooperative but also appeared contemptuous of the will of the
American people to defend themselves.

“In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to
obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and
Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques,” says the Justice
Department memo. “Both KSM and Zubaydah had ‘expressed their belief
that the general US population was ‘weak,’ lacked resilience, and
would be unable to ‘do what was necessary’ to prevent the terrorists
from succeeding in their goals.’ Indeed, before the CIA used enhanced
techniques in its interrogation of KSM, KSM resisted giving any
answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, ‘Soon you
will know.’”

After he was subjected to the “waterboard” technique, KSM became
cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al
Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian
terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style
attack on Los Angeles.

The May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that details what happened in
this regard was written by then-Principal Deputy Attorney General
Steven G. Bradbury to John A. Rizzo, the senior deputy general counsel
for the CIA.

“You have informed us that the interrogation of KSM—once enhanced
techniques were employed—led to the discovery of a KSM plot, the
‘Second Wave,’ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked
airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles,” says the memo.

“You have informed us that information obtained from KSM also led to
the capture of Riduan bin Isomuddin, better known as Hambali, and the
discover of the Guraba Cell, a 17-member Jemaah Islamiyah cell tasked
with executing the ‘Second Wave,’” reads the memo. “More specifically,
we understand that KSM admitted that he had [redaction] large sum of
money to an al Qaeda associate [redaction] … Khan subsequently
identified the associate (Zubair), who was then captured. Zubair, in
turn, provided information that led to the arrest of Hambali. The
information acquired from these captures allowed CIA interrogators to
pose more specific questions to KSM, which led the CIA to Hambali’s
brother, al Hadi. Using information obtained from multiple sources, al-
Hadi was captured, and he subsequently identified the Garuba cell.
With the aid of this additional information, interrogations of Hambali
confirmed much of what was learned from KSM.”

A CIA spokesman confirmed to CNSNews.com today that the CIA stands by
the factual assertions made here.

In the memo itself, the Justice Department’s Bradbury told the CIA’s
Rossi: “Your office has informed us that the CIA believes that ‘the
intelligence acquired from these interrogations has been a key reason
why al Qa’ida has failed to launch a spectacular attack in the West
since 11 September 2001.”
ltlee1
2009-04-21 16:11:55 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
On Apr 20, 8:12 am, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
"Baptize" him 183 times in one month would do the cleansing. Right?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Maybe KSM, the poor killer without a conscience that you are
infatuated with, should have been instead rendered to China as an
outsourcing, since they do these things so much better and for real?
Don't just write "they do these things so much better," back it up
with evidences from China' internal doucments
Post by AStext
With the added plus that it would never, ever be revealed to the
outside world.
Please make up your mind.
Do you know "they do these things so much better" or not? If yes, say
no more about never be revealed to the outside side. If no, say no
more about "they do these things so much better."

.
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AStext
2009-04-22 04:20:42 UTC
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On Apr 20, 8:12 am, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
"Baptize" him 183 times in one month would do the cleansing. Right?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Maybe KSM, the poor killer without a conscience that you are
infatuated with, should have been instead rendered to China as an
outsourcing, since they do these things so much better and for real?
Don't just write "they do these things so much better," back it up
with evidences from China' internal doucments
Post by AStext
With the added plus that it would never, ever be revealed to the
outside world.
Please make up your mind.
Do you know "they do these things so much better" or not?  If yes, say
no more about never be revealed to the outside side. If no, say no
more about "they do these things so much better."
.
Post by AStext
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Stop blathering and go back to your usual newsgroups, the truth won't
bother you there, nor will I.
ltlee1
2009-04-22 10:00:41 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
On Apr 20, 8:12 am, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
"Baptize" him 183 times in one month would do the cleansing. Right?
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://youtu.be/_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Maybe KSM, the poor killer without a conscience that you are
infatuated with, should have been instead rendered to China as an
outsourcing, since they do these things so much better and for real?
Don't just write "they do these things so much better," back it up
with evidences from China' internal doucments
Post by AStext
With the added plus that it would never, ever be revealed to the
outside world.
Please make up your mind.
Do you know "they do these things so much better" or not?  If yes, say
no more about never be revealed to the outside side. If no, say no
more about "they do these things so much better."
.
Post by AStext
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Stop blathering and go back to your usual newsgroups, the truth won't
bother you there, nor will I.
Who is blathering here?
I present you facts from official American report. It is your choice
to respond or to ignore it if it upset you. However. if you choose to
discuss the issue, please respond with fact and logic.
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Petzl
2009-04-20 23:45:32 UTC
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On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
It's a disgrace that he wasn't hung by the neck till dead
Petzl
__
As *everyone knows* Islam is of course synonymous with terrorism
ltlee1
2009-04-21 01:01:16 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:12:00 +1000, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
It's a disgrace that he wasn't hung by the neck till dead
On what ground?
Post by Petzl
Petzl
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
2009-04-21 03:41:50 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:12:00 +1000, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
It's a disgrace that he wasn't hung by the neck till dead
On what ground?
Either at Guantanamo or on US soil. Why do you ask?
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"Silly old bugger!"
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responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
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AStext
2009-04-21 04:25:13 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:12:00 +1000, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
On Apr 19, 8:17 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Post by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
That's fantastic news! Thanks for reporting!
In what way the news is fantastic? Care to elaborate?
The filthy arselifter needed a wash.
It's a disgrace that he wasn't hung by the neck till dead
On what ground?
Post by Petzl
Petzl
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er, he's a mass murderer . .
AStext
2009-04-20 00:51:38 UTC
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http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
2005 Bradbury memo:http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofina...
My heart doth bleed for the poor murderer. It's just not fair, is it,
he should be free to kill and maim and terrorise, shouldn't he?
kangarooistan
2009-04-20 10:35:52 UTC
Permalink
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
They needed him to plead guilty . as they had no real evidence to
charge him with that would stand examination

Same with every Muslim terrorist

One day the public will work out that is was the CIA and Mossad behind
9/11 and Bali and London and Spain and Mumbai so called Muslim
terrorist attacks

Thank GOD western taxpayers are nearly all bankrupted and will soon
work out who the REAL terrorists are

kanga
=======
ÇDoügßT
2009-04-20 15:14:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by ltlee1
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-was-waterboarded-183-times-in-one-month/
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42. Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofinalredact30May05.pdf
Great news! Thanks for sharing! Allah fuckbar!
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
2009-04-21 03:41:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by ÇDoügßT
Post by ltlee1
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-was-waterboarded-183-times-in-one-month/
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42. Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofinalredact30May05.pdf
Great news! Thanks for sharing! Allah fuckbar!
Two thumbs up.
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- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
kangarooistan
2009-04-21 07:46:08 UTC
Permalink
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
2005 Bradbury memo:http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofina...
Bush must be water boarded 180 times a month until he admits he
ordered the CIA and Mossad to carry out the 9/11 attacks and the
Bali ,London Spain and Mumbai attacks for Israel

All western taxpayers must ALL be water boarded 180 times a month ,
until they admit they funded the REAL terrorists

It matters not what you feel think or want fran

the problem is between the people of the middle East

the Palestinians will NEVER accept the occupation of their lands by
European jews and their western christian funders

They know from last time this shit happened [ first crusades ] they
must wait until all western taxpayers are completely broke before they
expell the invaders , its no good expelling them until their funding
has all been used up , like in old fashioned siege warfare , its
funding the campaigns not military power that decides who wins , and
its never over until the funding runs out

Once the western taxpayers have bled to death , the invaders will ALL
be expelled

Just like last time

The UN achieved what Hitler failed to do

A final solution to the jewish problem , naturally all of Europe was
glad to pass the jewish problem off onto the Muslims , the solution
they wanted for centuries

They Sent the jews off to the newly captured territories and let the
Muslims worry about the jews , but the Muslims wont accept Europe's
problems and sooner or later the western taxpayers will need to fix up
the mess they created

President Amadinejad is right

The Jews should go back where they came from , and the christians
should find another solution to their problems , why should
Palestinians pay for christians and jews crimes

Palestine belongs to Palestinians and always has

Even in the christian and jewish bibles GOD threw the jews out in 596
BCE ,if GOD wants jews to live there he does not need western
taxpayers andthe UN to help him or thousands to die for jewish
hysterical mythology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity
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Israel shelled UK war graves in Gaza -
Telegraph20 Jan 2009 ...
Israeli shelling has caused heavy damage to the Commonwealth war
graves in Gaza City, where British and Australian soldiers were
buried ...
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/4299569/Israel-shelled-UK-war-graves-in-Gaza.html
-
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There was no nation called Israel until it was invented in 1948 by the
UN , except in mythical jewish fabricated history and their religious
biased books , historically fabricated to support their mythical
superiority in GODS plan

Western taxpayers can go on paying for jewish insanity , but sooner
or later Israel will be wiped from the map and Palestine will be
restored

Once western taxpayers "bleed" to death in endless un winnable wars
for israel , the invaders will AGAIN be driven out like in the first
Crusades , once there is no more money left to support the Crusaders
they were driven out of the middle East

and will be again

It took 200 years to bleed western taxpayers to their knees in the
first Crusader invasions

It has only been about 100 years since the latest Crusaders invaded
the middle east , and may take another 100 years to "bleed" western
taxpayers dry , and only then can world peace be returned

But sooner or later Israel and its western taxpayer funded supporters
will be driven from the middle East Again

President Amadinejad only upsets western leaders because he tells the
truth, its no wonder Israeli jews hate him

kanga
=======
kangarooistan
2009-04-21 19:16:43 UTC
Permalink
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
2005 Bradbury memo:http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofina...
If I invent a holohoax myth like the jews did , will the UN give me
your land , or let me steal your land ?

Then I could pass laws preventing you questioning my myth

And kill your children if they misbehave and bulldoze your house when
I need more land

I could lock you in jail and torture you for years without a trial and
water board you until you admit you are a terrorist so I can bomb
your friends towns

Then I could pretend to be really clever , because I would be really
rich , and as you would be really poor I could use that as proof you
are stupid and lazy and useless

Until you were able to organize a resistance and kill me , and take
it all back , and make my children pay for ever and ever , for my
crimes

Perhaps its not such a good idea after all

Wonder why the jews are so silly , and hate their children so much ,
no wonder GOD threw them out of the holy lands in 596 BCE


kanga
======
rst0wxyz
2009-04-21 19:22:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by kangarooistan
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
2005 Bradbury memo:http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofina...
If I invent a holohoax myth like the jews did , will the UN give me
your land , or let me steal your land ?
Then I could pass laws preventing you questioning my myth
And kill your children if they misbehave and bulldoze your house when
I need more land
I could lock you in jail and torture you for years without a trial and
water board you until you admit you are a terrorist  so I can bomb
your friends towns
Then I could pretend to be really clever ,  because I would be really
rich ,  and as you would be really poor I could use that as proof you
are stupid and lazy and useless
Until you were able to organize a resistance and kill me ,  and take
it all back ,  and make my children pay for ever  and ever ,  for my
crimes
Perhaps its not such a good idea after all
Wonder why the jews are so silly , and hate their children so much ,
no wonder GOD threw them out of the holy lands in 596 BCE
kanga
kangaroo, you speak the truth. Keep it up.
rst0wxyz
2009-04-21 19:34:00 UTC
Permalink
And who gives a damn about the holocaust?
Post by kangarooistan
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
2005 Bradbury memo:http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofina...
If I invent a holohoax myth like the jews did , will the UN give me
your land , or let me steal your land ?
Then I could pass laws preventing you questioning my myth
And kill your children if they misbehave and bulldoze your house when
I need more land
I could lock you in jail and torture you for years without a trial and
water board you until you admit you are a terrorist  so I can bomb
your friends towns
Then I could pretend to be really clever ,  because I would be really
rich ,  and as you would be really poor I could use that as proof you
are stupid and lazy and useless
Until you were able to organize a resistance and kill me ,  and take
it all back ,  and make my children pay for ever  and ever ,  for my
crimes
Perhaps its not such a good idea after all
Wonder why the jews are so silly , and hate their children so much ,
no wonder GOD threw them out of the holy lands in 596 BCE
kanga
kangaroo, you speak the truth.  Keep it up.- Hide quoted text -
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Prophet Mohamed the child Fucker
2009-04-22 01:10:06 UTC
Permalink
Holocaust ? is it about the locust s ?


empty locusts ?


I have never heard about the Holocaust ,


was Black Slavery a Holocaust ?
Post by rst0wxyz
And who gives a damn about the holocaust?
Post by kangarooistan
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-w...
"On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences
between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in
the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during
March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case
of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well
as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once
backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to
waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with
these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
...where authorized, it may be used for two "sessions" per day of up
to two hours. During a session, water may be applied up to six times
for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-
hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of
water appliaction. See id. at 42.  Additionally, the waterboard may be
used on as many as five days during a 30-day approval period."
2005 Bradbury memo:http://s3.amazonaws.com/propublica/assets/missing_memos/28OLCmemofina...
If I invent a holohoax myth like the jews did , will the UN give me
your land , or let me steal your land ?
Then I could pass laws preventing you questioning my myth
And kill your children if they misbehave and bulldoze your house when
I need more land
I could lock you in jail and torture you for years without a trial and
water board you until you admit you are a terrorist  so I can bomb
your friends towns
Then I could pretend to be really clever ,  because I would be really
rich ,  and as you would be really poor I could use that as proof you
are stupid and lazy and useless
Until you were able to organize a resistance and kill me ,  and take
it all back ,  and make my children pay for ever  and ever ,  for my
crimes
Perhaps its not such a good idea after all
Wonder why the jews are so silly , and hate their children so much ,
no wonder GOD threw them out of the holy lands in 596 BCE
kanga
kangaroo, you speak the truth.  Keep it up.- Hide quoted text -
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rst0wxyz
2009-04-23 23:28:18 UTC
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Then you are in the right spot.

You, too, komin, If you have nothing better to do than talking to
yourself on the internet about Chinese stealing your land, come and
help me bash Meichi cunt aka abianchen lying bitch on SCC.

On Apr 21, 6:10 pm, Prophet Mohamed the child Fucker
Holocaust   ?  is  it  about  the  locust  s  ?
empty  locusts  ?
I have  never  heard  about the  Holocaust ,
was  Black  Slavery   a  Holocaust  ?
Post by rst0wxyz
And who gives a damn about the holocaust?
rst0wxyz
2009-04-24 13:52:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by rst0wxyz
Then you are in the right spot.
You, too, komin, If you have nothing better to do than talking to
yourself on the internet about Chinese stealing your land, come and
help me bash Meichi cunt aka abianchen lying bitch on SCC.
On Apr 21, 6:10 pm, Prophet  Mohamed  the child  Fucker
Holocaust   ?  is  it  about  the  locust  s  ?
empty  locusts  ?
I have  never  heard  about the  Holocaust ,
was  Black  Slavery   a  Holocaust  ?
rst0wxyz
2009-05-04 03:45:03 UTC
Permalink
You, too, komin, If you have nothing better to do than talking to
yourself on the internet about Chinese stealing your land, come and
help me bash Meichi cunt aka abianchen lying bitch on SCC.

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