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Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-17 22:50:04 UTC
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Michael doesn't live in St. Lous. He lives in East Liverpool, Ohio.
Sometimes I wonder how cshenkie goes through life, misunderstanding
everything and talking nonsense all the time.
Projecting again?

The same way you go through life over-generalizing about Americans and
misrepresenting them.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-18 15:51:35 UTC
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I'm questioning your claim of expertise on American ketchup even though
you've never tasted it. That's just so silly and obviously wrong.
This is why he's now known as Trigger.
🤯
Or Fredo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredo_Corleone
"Fredo's primary weakness is his womanizing"
Well, if you're going to have a weakness, womanizing isn't such a bad
one, is it?
Spoken like a heedless male.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-18 15:52:59 UTC
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I'm questioning your claim of expertise on American ketchup even though
you've never tasted it. That's just so silly and obviously wrong.
This is why he's now known as Trigger.
🤯
Or Fredo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredo_Corleone
"Fredo's primary weakness is his womanizing"
Well, if you're going to have a weakness, womanizing isn't such a bad
one, is it?
That's not Fredo's only weakness..

I didn't click, but I bet you're an incel. Most trolls are.
Yes you fit that rather well, ya asexual Auztard.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-18 18:17:15 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 08:51:04 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
I'm questioning your claim of expertise on American ketchup even though
you've never tasted it. That's just so silly and obviously wrong.
This is why he's now known as Trigger.
🤯
Or Fredo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredo_Corleone
+1
The trollies are agreeing. Aww... :)
Glad you agree too, trollass.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-18 18:17:41 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 08:39:13 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:44:01 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
Gosh, I love American ketchup. I get the cheapest stuff I can get and
use it as a sweetener. It's great. Watch out for that banana stuff.

LOL, have you tried the Jufran (or UTC brand).  I'd think it would suit
you!  But anyways, the tomato ketchup would do to replace some of the
honey if it's too sweet/sticky with all honey.  It is cut a bit by the
other things used in the sauce.
I have tried Jufran. It's an interesting product.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/zhMdu1-6svY/m/NUKyzPMhpvsJ
Look at the number of missing members in that thread, dang!
Yep, trolls chase people away, Mr Christian.
Yes you have, Mr. Secular America-hater.
I like secular America a lot more than "Christian" America.
Amorality is your byword.
Petzl
2024-11-18 21:49:18 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:17:41 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
Post by Coogan's Bluff
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 08:39:13 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:44:01 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
Gosh, I love American ketchup. I get the cheapest stuff I can get and
use it as a sweetener. It's great. Watch out for that banana stuff.
http://youtu.be/CR43FANImW4
LOL, have you tried the Jufran (or UTC brand).  I'd think it would suit
you!  But anyways, the tomato ketchup would do to replace some of the
honey if it's too sweet/sticky with all honey.  It is cut a bit by the
other things used in the sauce.
I have tried Jufran. It's an interesting product.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/zhMdu1-6svY/m/NUKyzPMhpvsJ
Look at the number of missing members in that thread, dang!
Yep, trolls chase people away, Mr Christian.
Yes you have, Mr. Secular America-hater.
I like secular America a lot more than "Christian" America.
Amorality is your byword.
America's God is legally defined as the Christian God, look at the
date America in a Christian "Monoculture" not a "Multicuture"
This ninetieth day of November
in the year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four
--
Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
Rod Speed
2024-11-18 22:44:18 UTC
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America's God is legally defined as the Christian God,
Bullshit.

In fact the US constitution guarantees freedom
of religion and they aren't even stupid enough
to have a prefix that says anything about god.
Post by Petzl
look at the date America in a Christian "Monoculture"
More mindless crap with the red indians alone.
Post by Petzl
not a "Multicuture"
Wrong, as always
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-18 23:09:26 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
America's God is legally defined as the Christian God,
Bullshit.
1/2 credit, but our nation was founded on Christian laws.


n Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When
in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and
to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the
causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-
Rod Speed
2024-11-18 23:52:19 UTC
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Post by Citizen Winston Smith
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
America's God is legally defined as the Christian God,
Bullshit.
1/2 credit, but our nation was founded on Christian laws.
Bullshit
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
n Congress, July 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When
in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and
to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the
causes which impel them to the separation.
Says nothing about any CHRISTIAN god.
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
Except when they are black or red indian or chinese etc
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-
Except when they are black or red indian or chinese etc
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-19 00:08:15 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
Post by Petzl
America's God is legally defined as the Christian God,
 Bullshit.
1/2 credit, but our nation was founded on Christian laws.
Bullshit
Luzer!

https://store.americanvision.org/products/case-for-americas-christian-heritage

America’s original founding was rooted deeply in the things of Jesus
Christ and His kingdom. The original charter given to Sir Walter Raleigh
by Queen Elizabeth I in the 16th century was to establish “the true
Christian faith.” John Rolfe at Jamestown sought to “advance the Honor
of God and to propagate his Gospel.” The faithful Christians who wrote
the Mayflower Compact stated that their mission was “for the Glory of
God and advancements of the Christian faith.”



Supreme Court Justice Brewer (1837-1910) confirmed these facts and many
more that he gleaned from our nation’s original documents and referenced
in his 1905 book The United States: A Christian Nation:

In no charter or constitution is there anything to even suggest that any
other than the Christian is the religion of this country.… In short,
there is no charter or constitution that is either infidel, agnostic, or
anti-Christian. Wherever there is a declaration in favor of any religion
it is of the Christian.

Even some of our nation’s Founders who did not identify as Christians
could not escape the impact the Bible had on our nation’s founding and
the moral precepts that held the fledgling nation together. America’s
Christian heritage is writ large in its state Constitutions, charters,
laws, symbols, and repeated stated reliance on the overruling providence
of God.

It’s not enough, however, to relive history. There’s much work before us
to reset the foundation stones of a firm reliance on Divine Providence.
We need to heed the words of Benjamin Franklin who quoted Psalm 127:1
during the drafting process of the Constitution: “except the Lord build
the house they labor in vain that build it,” and “that without His
concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better,
than the Builders of Babel.”

The principles that were true and necessary centuries ago for building
nations are equally true and necessary today.

https://christinprophecy.org/articles/americas-christian-heritage/

Samuel Adams (1722-1803) — Governor of Massachusetts, signer of the
Declaration of Independence, and organizer of the Boston Tea Party:

A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely
overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common
enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when
they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties
to the first external or internal invader.1
Religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public
liberty and happiness.2
Benjamin Rush (1745-1813) — Signer of the Declaration of Independence,
attendee at the Continental Congress, physician, and first Surgeon General:

The only foundation for… a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without
this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty,
and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.3
Patrick Henry (1736-1799) — First governor of Virginia and member of the
Continental Congress:

The great pillars of all government and of social life [are] virtue,
morality, and religion. This is the armor… and this alone, that renders
us invincible.4
George Washington (1732-1799) — Commander in Chief of the Continental
Army, overseer of the Constitutional Convention, and first President of
the United States:

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports… in vain would that man
claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great
pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and
citizens…5
John Adams (1735-1826) — Member of the Continental Congress, one of the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence, and second President of the
United States:

We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human
passions unbridled by morality and religion… Our Constitution was made
only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the
government of any other.6
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) — Governor of Virginia, first Secretary of
State, principle author of the Declaration of Independence, and third
President of the United States:

No nation has ever yet existed or been governed without religion. Nor
can be. The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been
given to man, and I as chief Magistrate of this nation am bound to give
it the sanction of my example.7
James Madison (1751-1836) — Political philosopher, considered the
“Father of the Constitution” and the “Father of the Bill of Rights,”
member of the House of Representatives, and fourth President of the
United States:

We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the
power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of
our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self
government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves,
to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten
Commandments of God.8
A Continuing Concept
This concept of the inalienable interdependence of constitutional order
and Christian virtue was not just characteristic of our Founding
Fathers. It has continued to be emphasized throughout our history:

Noah Webster (1758-1843) — Considered the “Father of American Education”
and publisher of The American Dictionary of the English Language in 1828:

In my view, the Christian Religion is the most important and one of the
first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be
instructed… no truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian
Religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the
rights and privileges of a free people.9
John Quincy Adams (1767-1848) — American diplomat, member of the House
and Senate, and sixth President of the United States. On the occasion of
the celebration of the 45th anniversary of the Declaration of
Independence, he declared:

The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in
one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the
principles of Christianity.10
Daniel Webster (1782-1852) — United States Senator from Massachusetts
and Secretary of State:

No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion
must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and
privileges of a free people.11
To preserve the government we must also preserve morals. Morality rests
on religion; if you destroy the foundation, the superstructure must
fall. When the public mind becomes vitiated and corrupt, laws are a
nullity and constitutions are waste paper.12
William McGuffey (1800-1873) — American educator and author of the
McGuffey’s Reader, first published in 1836:

The Christian religion is the religion of our country. From it are
derived our prevalent notions of the character of God, the great moral
governor of the universe. On its doctrines are founded the peculiarities
of our free institutions.13
The New York State Legislature — In 1838 the New York State Legislature
declared:

This is a Christian nation. Ninety-nine hundredths, if not a larger
proportion, of our whole population, believe in the general doctrines of
the Christian religion. Our government depends… on that virtue that has
its foundation in the morality of the Christian religion.14
Andrew Jackson (1767-1845) — Victorious commander of American forces in
the Battle of New Orleans in 1815, military governor of Florida, and
seventh President of the United States. Speaking of the Bible, he said:

That Book, sir, is the Rock upon which our republic rests.15
Supreme Court of the United States — Case of the United States v. Church
of the Holy Trinity (1892):

No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation,
state or national, because this is a religious people. This is
historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present
hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation…These, and many
other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial
declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian
nation… We are a Christian people, and the morality of the country is
deeply engrafted upon Christianity.16
Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933) — Governor of Massachusetts, Vice President
of the United States, and 30th President of the United States:

The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the
teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if
faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our
country.17
The United States Supreme Court — Case of United States v. McIntosh (1931):

We are a Christian people, according to one another the equal right of
religious freedom, and acknowledging with reverence the duty of
obedience to the will of God.18
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945) — Governor of New York and 32nd
President of the United States:

We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation,
without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the
advances of the Republic. Where we have been the truest and most
consistent in obeying its precepts, we have attained the greatest
measure of contentment and prosperity. 19
Peter Marshall (1902-1949) — Scottish-American preacher, pastor of New
York Avenue Presbyterian Church in Washington, D.C., and Chaplain of the
United States Senate, in a prayer offered before the Senate in 1947:

May it be ever understood that our liberty is under God and can be found
nowhere else… We were born that way, as the only nation on earth that
came into being for the glory of God and the advancement of the
Christian faith.20
Earl Warren (1891-1974) — Governor of California and 14th Chief Justice
of the United States Supreme Court, in a Time magazine interview in
February of 1954:

I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing
that the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning
been our guiding geniuses… Whether we look to the first Charter of
Virginia… or to the Charter of New England… or to the Charter of
Massachusetts Bay… or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut… the same
objective is present… a Christian land governed by Christian principles.
I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the
knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it… I
like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian
religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm
can come to our country.21
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969) — Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in
Europe during World War II and 34th President of the United States:

Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an
American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first —
the most basic — expression of Americanism.22
Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) — Governor of California and 40th President of
the United States:

America needs God more than God needs America. If we ever forget that we
are “One Nation Under God,” then we will be a Nation gone under.23
Foreign Recognition
The French historian, Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859), visited the
United States in the early 1830’s. In 1835 he published the first of a
two volume study of this nation, titled, Democracy in America. He
revealed that the intertwining of Christianity with government was very
surprising to him:

Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the
country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I
stayed there, the more did I perceive the great political consequences
resulting from this state of things, to which I was unaccustomed.
In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit
of freedom pursuing courses diametrically opposed to each other; but in
America I found that they were intimately united, and that they reigned
in common over the same country… The Americans combine the notions of
Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is
impossible to make them conceive the one without the other.24
De Tocqueville’s traveling companion, Gustave de Beaumont (1802-1866)
was similarly impressed with the Christian foundation of American
government. He wrote:

Religion in America is not only a moral institution but also a political
institution. All of the American constitutions [national and state]
exhort the citizens to practice religious worship as a safeguard both to
good morals and to public liberties. In the United States, the law is
never atheistic…25
Contemporary Recognition
University of Houston political science professors Donald Lutz and
Charles Hyneman in 1983 published a monumental study that took them 10
years to bring together. They surveyed over 15,000 documents written by
our Founding Fathers between 1760-1805 and discovered that the Bible
was, by far, the most cited source, comprising 34 percent of all
quotations. In fact, the Bible was quoted four times more than any other
source.26

Significantly, the next most commonly cited sources were Barron
Montesquieu (1689-1755), William Blackstone (1723- 1780), and John Locke
(1632-1704). All of these men were strong adherents of natural law
philosophy and encouraged the incorporation of biblical law into civil law.

Lutz and Hyneman affirmed that the Pilgrims, the Puritans and the
constitutional framers all insisted on cementing the connection between
law and morals by infusing biblical precepts into the Declaration of
Independence, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

In 1982 Newsweek magazine published an article entitled, “How the Bible
Made America.” It concluded, “historians are discovering that the Bible,
perhaps even more than the Constitution, is our founding document.”27

Even contemporary American Jewish leaders have asserted their belief
that our nation is one that is based on Christian principles, and they
have expressed their appreciation for the fact that this foundation has
produced religious liberty for them.

Consider, for example, the viewpoint of Jeff Jacoby, a Jewish columnist
at the Boston Globe:

This is a Christian country — it was founded by Christians and built on
broad Christian principles. Threatening? Far from it. It is in precisely
this Christian country that Jews have known the most peaceful,
prosperous, and successful existence in their long history.28
Dennis Prager, a Jewish columnist and popular radio talk show host, has
warned:

If America abandons its Judeo-Christian values basis and the central
role of the Jewish and Christian Bibles (its Founders’ guiding text), we
are all in big trouble, including, most especially, America’s
non-Christians. Just ask the Jews of secular Europe.29
Don Feder, a Jewish columnist and long time writer for the Boston
Herald, expressed a similar viewpoint:

Clearly this nation was established by Christians… As a Jew, I’m
entirely comfortable with the concept of a Christian America.30
The choice isn’t Christian America or nothing, but Christian America or
a neo-pagan, hedonistic, rights without-responsibilities, anti-family,
culture-of-death America. As an American Jew… [I] feel very much at home
here.31
Michael Medved, a Jewish radio talk show host and columnist, agrees that
America is indeed a Christian nation:

The framers may not have mentioned Christianity in the Constitution but
they clearly intended that charter of liberty to govern a society of
fervent faith, freely encouraged by government for the benefit of all.
Their noble and unprecedented experiment never involved a religion-free
or faithless state but did indeed presuppose America’s unequivocal
identity as a Christian nation.32
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
n Congress, July 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and
equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle
them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they
should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Says nothing about any CHRISTIAN god.
Which God do you presume the framers had in mind fool?

Allah?
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
Except when they are black or red indian or chinese etc
All redressed and codified in subsequent Constitutional amendments, fool.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-
Except when they are black or red indian or chinese etc
All redressed and codified in subsequent Constitutional amendments, fool.
Rod Speed
2024-11-19 02:00:07 UTC
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Post by Citizen Winston Smith
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
America's God is legally defined as the Christian God,
Bullshit.
1/2 credit, but our nation was founded on Christian laws.
Bullshit
https://store.americanvision.org/products/case-for-americas-christian-=
heritage

Just because some fool claims something...
America=E2=80=99s original founding was rooted deeplyin the things of =
Jesus =
Christ and His kingdom.
The reality is that that includes the jewish god and its rules too.
The original charter given to Sir Walter Raleigh by Queen Elizabeth I =
in =
the 16th century was to establish =E2=80=9Cthe true Christian faith.=E2=
=80=9D

Irrelevant to the current law post the revolution and constitution.
John Rolfe at Jamestown sought to =E2=80=9Cadvance the Honor of God an=
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propagate his Gospel.=E2=80=9D The faithful Christians who wrote the M=
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Compact stated that their mission was =E2=80=9Cfor the Glory of God an=
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advancements of the Christian faith.=E2=80=9D
All irrelevant to the current law post the revolution and constitution.
Supreme Court Justice Brewer (1837-1910) confirmed these facts and man=
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more that he gleaned from our nation=E2=80=99s original documents and =
referenced =
All irrelevant to the current law post the revolution and constitution.
In no charter or constitution is there anything to even suggest that a=
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other than the Christian is the religion of this country.=E2=80=A6
The constitution doesnt even mention christian
and only uses the word religion twice and with
the first mention guarantees freedom of religion.
In short, there is no charter or constitution that is either infidel, =
=
agnostic, or anti-Christian. Wherever there is a declaration in favor =
of =
any religion it is of the Christian.
The constitution explicitly guarantees freedom of religion.

<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-19 22:11:24 UTC
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<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
I would fuck your entire life over in person, you mincing, senile old
trollshit.

You are loathed by all sentient beings, all.


https://store.americanvision.org/products/case-for-americas-christian-heritage

America’s original founding was rooted deeply in the things of Jesus
Christ and His kingdom. The original charter given to Sir Walter Raleigh
by Queen Elizabeth I in the 16th century was to establish “the true
Christian faith.” John Rolfe at Jamestown sought to “advance the Honor
of God and to propagate his Gospel.” The faithful Christians who wrote
the Mayflower Compact stated that their mission was “for the Glory of
God and advancements of the Christian faith.”



Supreme Court Justice Brewer (1837-1910) confirmed these facts and many
more that he gleaned from our nation’s original documents and referenced
in his 1905 book The United States: A Christian Nation:

In no charter or constitution is there anything to even suggest that any
other than the Christian is the religion of this country.… In short,
there is no charter or constitution that is either infidel, agnostic, or
anti-Christian. Wherever there is a declaration in favor of any religion
it is of the Christian.

Even some of our nation’s Founders who did not identify as Christians
could not escape the impact the Bible had on our nation’s founding and
the moral precepts that held the fledgling nation together. America’s
Christian heritage is writ large in its state Constitutions, charters,
laws, symbols, and repeated stated reliance on the overruling providence
of God.

It’s not enough, however, to relive history. There’s much work before us
to reset the foundation stones of a firm reliance on Divine Providence.
We need to heed the words of Benjamin Franklin who quoted Psalm 127:1
during the drafting process of the Constitution: “except the Lord build
the house they labor in vain that build it,” and “that without His
concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better,
than the Builders of Babel.”

The principles that were true and necessary centuries ago for building
nations are equally true and necessary today.

https://christinprophecy.org/articles/americas-christian-heritage/

Samuel Adams (1722-1803) — Governor of Massachusetts, signer of the
Declaration of Independence, and organizer of the Boston Tea Party:

A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely
overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common
enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when
they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties
to the first external or internal invader.1
Religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public
liberty and happiness.2
Benjamin Rush (1745-1813) — Signer of the Declaration of Independence,
attendee at the Continental Congress, physician, and first Surgeon General:

The only foundation for… a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without
this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty,
and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.3
Patrick Henry (1736-1799) — First governor of Virginia and member of the
Continental Congress:

The great pillars of all government and of social life [are] virtue,
morality, and religion. This is the armor… and this alone, that renders
us invincible.4
George Washington (1732-1799) — Commander in Chief of the Continental
Army, overseer of the Constitutional Convention, and first President of
the United States:

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports… in vain would that man
claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great
pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and
citizens…5
John Adams (1735-1826) — Member of the Continental Congress, one of the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence, and second President of the
United States:

We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human
passions unbridled by morality and religion… Our Constitution was made
only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the
government of any other.6
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) — Governor of Virginia, first Secretary of
State, principle author of the Declaration of Independence, and third
President of the United States:

No nation has ever yet existed or been governed without religion. Nor
can be. The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been
given to man, and I as chief Magistrate of this nation am bound to give
it the sanction of my example.7
James Madison (1751-1836) — Political philosopher, considered the
“Father of the Constitution” and the “Father of the Bill of Rights,”
member of the House of Representatives, and fourth President of the
United States:

We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the
power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of
our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self
government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves,
to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten
Commandments of God.8
A Continuing Concept
This concept of the inalienable interdependence of constitutional order
and Christian virtue was not just characteristic of our Founding
Fathers. It has continued to be emphasized throughout our history:

Noah Webster (1758-1843) — Considered the “Father of American Education”
and publisher of The American Dictionary of the English Language in 1828:

In my view, the Christian Religion is the most important and one of the
first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be
instructed… no truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian
Religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the
rights and privileges of a free people.9
John Quincy Adams (1767-1848) — American diplomat, member of the House
and Senate, and sixth President of the United States. On the occasion of
the celebration of the 45th anniversary of the Declaration of
Independence, he declared:

The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in
one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the
principles of Christianity.10
Daniel Webster (1782-1852) — United States Senator from Massachusetts
and Secretary of State:

No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion
must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and
privileges of a free people.11
To preserve the government we must also preserve morals. Morality rests
on religion; if you destroy the foundation, the superstructure must
fall. When the public mind becomes vitiated and corrupt, laws are a
nullity and constitutions are waste paper.12
William McGuffey (1800-1873) — American educator and author of the
McGuffey’s Reader, first published in 1836:

The Christian religion is the religion of our country. From it are
derived our prevalent notions of the character of God, the great moral
governor of the universe. On its doctrines are founded the peculiarities
of our free institutions.13
The New York State Legislature — In 1838 the New York State Legislature
declared:

This is a Christian nation. Ninety-nine hundredths, if not a larger
proportion, of our whole population, believe in the general doctrines of
the Christian religion. Our government depends… on that virtue that has
its foundation in the morality of the Christian religion.14
Andrew Jackson (1767-1845) — Victorious commander of American forces in
the Battle of New Orleans in 1815, military governor of Florida, and
seventh President of the United States. Speaking of the Bible, he said:

That Book, sir, is the Rock upon which our republic rests.15
Supreme Court of the United States — Case of the United States v. Church
of the Holy Trinity (1892):

No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation,
state or national, because this is a religious people. This is
historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present
hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation…These, and many
other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial
declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian
nation… We are a Christian people, and the morality of the country is
deeply engrafted upon Christianity.16
Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933) — Governor of Massachusetts, Vice President
of the United States, and 30th President of the United States:

The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the
teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if
faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our
country.17
The United States Supreme Court — Case of United States v. McIntosh (1931):

We are a Christian people, according to one another the equal right of
religious freedom, and acknowledging with reverence the duty of
obedience to the will of God.18
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945) — Governor of New York and 32nd
President of the United States:

We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation,
without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the
advances of the Republic. Where we have been the truest and most
consistent in obeying its precepts, we have attained the greatest
measure of contentment and prosperity. 19
Peter Marshall (1902-1949) — Scottish-American preacher, pastor of New
York Avenue Presbyterian Church in Washington, D.C., and Chaplain of the
United States Senate, in a prayer offered before the Senate in 1947:

May it be ever understood that our liberty is under God and can be found
nowhere else… We were born that way, as the only nation on earth that
came into being for the glory of God and the advancement of the
Christian faith.20
Earl Warren (1891-1974) — Governor of California and 14th Chief Justice
of the United States Supreme Court, in a Time magazine interview in
February of 1954:

I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing
that the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning
been our guiding geniuses… Whether we look to the first Charter of
Virginia… or to the Charter of New England… or to the Charter of
Massachusetts Bay… or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut… the same
objective is present… a Christian land governed by Christian principles.
I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the
knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it… I
like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian
religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm
can come to our country.21
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969) — Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in
Europe during World War II and 34th President of the United States:

Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an
American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first —
the most basic — expression of Americanism.22
Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) — Governor of California and 40th President of
the United States:

America needs God more than God needs America. If we ever forget that we
are “One Nation Under God,” then we will be a Nation gone under.23
Foreign Recognition
The French historian, Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859), visited the
United States in the early 1830’s. In 1835 he published the first of a
two volume study of this nation, titled, Democracy in America. He
revealed that the intertwining of Christianity with government was very
surprising to him:

Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the
country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I
stayed there, the more did I perceive the great political consequences
resulting from this state of things, to which I was unaccustomed.
In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit
of freedom pursuing courses diametrically opposed to each other; but in
America I found that they were intimately united, and that they reigned
in common over the same country… The Americans combine the notions of
Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is
impossible to make them conceive the one without the other.24
De Tocqueville’s traveling companion, Gustave de Beaumont (1802-1866)
was similarly impressed with the Christian foundation of American
government. He wrote:

Religion in America is not only a moral institution but also a political
institution. All of the American constitutions [national and state]
exhort the citizens to practice religious worship as a safeguard both to
good morals and to public liberties. In the United States, the law is
never atheistic…25
Contemporary Recognition
University of Houston political science professors Donald Lutz and
Charles Hyneman in 1983 published a monumental study that took them 10
years to bring together. They surveyed over 15,000 documents written by
our Founding Fathers between 1760-1805 and discovered that the Bible
was, by far, the most cited source, comprising 34 percent of all
quotations. In fact, the Bible was quoted four times more than any other
source.26

Significantly, the next most commonly cited sources were Barron
Montesquieu (1689-1755), William Blackstone (1723- 1780), and John Locke
(1632-1704). All of these men were strong adherents of natural law
philosophy and encouraged the incorporation of biblical law into civil law.

Lutz and Hyneman affirmed that the Pilgrims, the Puritans and the
constitutional framers all insisted on cementing the connection between
law and morals by infusing biblical precepts into the Declaration of
Independence, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

In 1982 Newsweek magazine published an article entitled, “How the Bible
Made America.” It concluded, “historians are discovering that the Bible,
perhaps even more than the Constitution, is our founding document.”27

Even contemporary American Jewish leaders have asserted their belief
that our nation is one that is based on Christian principles, and they
have expressed their appreciation for the fact that this foundation has
produced religious liberty for them.

Consider, for example, the viewpoint of Jeff Jacoby, a Jewish columnist
at the Boston Globe:

This is a Christian country — it was founded by Christians and built on
broad Christian principles. Threatening? Far from it. It is in precisely
this Christian country that Jews have known the most peaceful,
prosperous, and successful existence in their long history.28
Dennis Prager, a Jewish columnist and popular radio talk show host, has
warned:

If America abandons its Judeo-Christian values basis and the central
role of the Jewish and Christian Bibles (its Founders’ guiding text), we
are all in big trouble, including, most especially, America’s
non-Christians. Just ask the Jews of secular Europe.29
Don Feder, a Jewish columnist and long time writer for the Boston
Herald, expressed a similar viewpoint:

Clearly this nation was established by Christians… As a Jew, I’m
entirely comfortable with the concept of a Christian America.30
The choice isn’t Christian America or nothing, but Christian America or
a neo-pagan, hedonistic, rights without-responsibilities, anti-family,
culture-of-death America. As an American Jew… [I] feel very much at home
here.31
Michael Medved, a Jewish radio talk show host and columnist, agrees that
America is indeed a Christian nation:

The framers may not have mentioned Christianity in the Constitution but
they clearly intended that charter of liberty to govern a society of
fervent faith, freely encouraged by government for the benefit of all.
Their noble and unprecedented experiment never involved a religion-free
or faithless state but did indeed presuppose America’s unequivocal
identity as a Christian nation.32
Rod Speed
2024-11-20 01:43:11 UTC
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Citizen Winston Smith <***@example.de> wrote

<reams of your even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 16:44:56 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
they are black or red indian or chinese etc
Your evil will also be extinguished, know and sear in the pain of your
own lifetime of misdeeds.
Rod Speed
2024-11-19 17:50:07 UTC
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Post by Coogan's Bluff
Post by Rod Speed
they are black or red indian or chinese etc
Your evil will also be extinguished, know and sear in the pain of your
own lifetime of misdeeds.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys, god botherer.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:23:51 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 03:44:56 +1100, Coogan's Bluff
Post by Coogan's Bluff
Post by Rod Speed
they are black or red indian or chinese etc
Your evil will also be extinguished, know and sear in the pain of your
own lifetime of misdeeds.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys, god botherer.
What is it like to be reviled in every group you populate?

Is the satisfaction attention-driven? It must be.
Rod Speed
2024-11-20 01:44:54 UTC
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Coogan's Butt <***@park.invalid> shitted

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed
drunken psychotic fantasys, god botherer.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-18 18:27:03 UTC
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You understand the economics of the situation. That's good. You should
be able to see how everything flows forth from the economics in a
predictable manner. Rational, predictable, economics is good economics.
If people used their brain and bought the version without HFCS, like
Ed said, then the better version would be economically superior. But
sheeple will be sheeple. Chew, chew, chew.
If pigs could fly, we could use them as food delivery drones.
Sucrose is sugar. Fructose is sugar. Sugar is sugar. I don't have any
particular opinion on either. You certainly do. Why? Use your own words
- if that's even possible any more.
If you'd used your brain a bit more before you shoved things into your
pie hole, you might not have ended up with diabetes. Chew, chew, chew.
If you'd ever bothered to talk to the Creator you'd not be such a
creepy, hateful asshole about now.
%
2024-11-18 19:09:45 UTC
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Post by Coogan's Bluff
You understand the economics of the situation. That's good. You should
be able to see how everything flows forth from the economics in a
predictable manner. Rational, predictable, economics is good economics.
If people used their brain and bought the version without HFCS, like
Ed said, then the better version would be economically superior. But
sheeple will be sheeple. Chew, chew, chew.
If pigs could fly, we could use them as food delivery drones.
Sucrose is sugar. Fructose is sugar. Sugar is sugar. I don't have any
particular opinion on either. You certainly do. Why? Use your own words
- if that's even possible any more.
If you'd used your brain a bit more before you shoved things into your
pie hole, you might not have ended up with diabetes. Chew, chew, chew.
If you'd ever bothered to talk to the Creator you'd not be such a
creepy, hateful asshole about now.
so if i eat sugar than he's an asshole
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-21 18:44:36 UTC
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All these animals on one boat must have been carnage.
Learn:


Graham
2024-11-21 19:09:38 UTC
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Post by Coogan's Bluff
All these animals on one boat must have been carnage.
http://youtu.be/PeNOURXWCmM
Squit, twaddle and bunkum! A monument built by idiots to entertain
idiots.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-21 19:11:44 UTC
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Post by Graham
Post by Coogan's Bluff
All these animals on one boat must have been carnage.
http://youtu.be/PeNOURXWCmM
Squit, twaddle and bunkum!
Design, accomplishment, and success.
Post by Graham
A monument built by idiots to entertain idiots.
A closed mind like yours is never open to consideration, that must suck.
Graham
2024-11-21 20:25:51 UTC
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Post by Coogan's Bluff
Post by Graham
Post by Coogan's Bluff
All these animals on one boat must have been carnage.
http://youtu.be/PeNOURXWCmM
Squit, twaddle and bunkum!
Design, accomplishment, and success.
Post by Graham
A monument built by idiots to entertain idiots.
A closed mind like yours is never open to consideration, that must suck.
I have a open mind but not so open that my brains have fallen out as
they clearly have in your case.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-21 20:32:23 UTC
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Post by Graham
Post by Coogan's Bluff
Post by Graham
Post by Coogan's Bluff
All these animals on one boat must have been carnage.
http://youtu.be/PeNOURXWCmM
Squit, twaddle and bunkum!
Design, accomplishment, and success.
Post by Graham
A monument built by idiots to entertain idiots.
A closed mind like yours is never open to consideration, that must suck.
I have a open mind
No, for example you have raging TDS ( denialist malady) and it's not
even your own nation you obsess on.

That is evidence of a pre-judgment mania of sorts.
Post by Graham
but not so open that my brains have fallen out as
they clearly have in your case.
Yer gonna hate this:

https://uncanceled.news/scientists-have-deciphered-the-worlds-oldest-map-and-it-reveals-the-location-of-noahs-ark/

Scientists have recently unlocked the secrets of the world’s oldest map,
a 3,000-year-old clay tablet known as the Imago Mundi, which is believed
to show the location of Noah’s Ark. The ancient Babylonian artifact,
etched with cuneiform—a script using wedge-shaped symbols—has puzzled
archaeologists for centuries. Discovered in what is now Iraq in 1882,
the tablet is housed at the British Museum, where it has become one of
its famous collections.

The Imago Mundi depicts a circular world map, illustrating early
Babylonian ideas about the world’s creation. The map is thought to show
the entire known world at the time, with Mesopotamia at the bottom center.

This ancient Babylonian artifact deeply puzzled researchers for many years.

Gold Skyrocketed 51% During Trump’s First Term — Will It Do the Same in
His Second?
But now the code has been cracked, and the reverse side of the artifact
contains incredibly stunning information…

On the reverse side of the artifact, passages reportedly provide a guide
describing what a traveler would encounter on their journey, including a
path to “Urartu” and specific instructions on how to get there. One
passage says: “To the fourth, to which you must travel seven leagues.”
Another passage reportedly instructs those on the journey to go through
“seven leagues to see something that is thick as a parsiktu-vessel.”

The term “parsiktu” appears on other ancient Babylonian tablets,
referencing the scale of a vessel meant to withstand the legendary Great
Flood. Researchers believe that Urartu, also known as Ararat, is linked
to an ancient Mesopotamian poem recounting a family who, like Noah,
landed their ark to preserve life following the 150-day flood. As the
flooding ended, they were safely stationed at one of the peaks of
Urartu, which aligns with “Ararat,” the Hebrew term for the mountain
where Noah’s Ark is said to have come to rest after the flood.

I was floored when I first saw this.

According to Dr. Finkel, there is no doubt that Ararat “is the Hebrew
equivalent of the Assyrian ‘Urartu’”…

“The first place you come to is called ‘Urartu’, it’s drawn on the map.
Now, the interesting thing about that is that in the Bible Noah, in his
Ark, landed on a mountain where the name is ‘Ararat’ and ‘Ararat’ is the
Hebrew equivalent of the Assyrian ‘Urartu’. That’s quite a meaty thing,
quite an interesting thing to think about because it shows that the
story was the same, and of course that one led to the other but also,
that from the Babylonian point of view, this was a matter of fact
thing,” said Finkel.

He added, “If you did go on this journey, you would see the remnants of
this historic boat which saved all the life of the world for the
long-term future.”

This is one of the biggest archaeological bombshells in history, and the
British Museum has released a video in which Dr. Finkel shares more
details about this remarkable discovery.
jmcquown
2024-11-24 19:43:23 UTC
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Post by Graham
All these animals on one boat must have been carnage.
Squit, twaddle and bunkum! A monument built by idiots to entertain
idiots.
Posting squat is the only thing trolls are good for.

Jill
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:27:58 UTC
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I wonder if they can handle a Trump government.
No you do not "have to" - that's your choice to obsess over a nation not
your own, trollscum.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:28:53 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 09:43:01 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:16:51 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
"These claims have been debunked by numerous experts, including a
detailed forensic analysis conducted by the Netherlands State
Institute for War Documentation, which confirmed that the diary was
indeed written by Anne Frank, and the handwriting, ink, and paper were
consistent with the time period"
Sadly that doesn't erase the controversy over Levin's $50K settlement,
nor does it make the entry of the ballpoint pen to the milieu any less
likely to arouse suspicions among certain types.
These "types" are probably Holocaust deniers. They're not worth paying
attention to.
Says the lifetime Godwins Law award winner, it it to laugh and pity you
simultaneously, for you seek to wrap yourself in perceived piety whilst
dealing cards of deceit and hatred.
Your remaining time here is this realm will be far shorter than you can
admit, but you feel the dark shadow gaining on you and it will eclipse
and suffocate you.
So mote it be.
Take all the pills the doctor gave you, trollie, not just the ones
with pretty colours.
Take the karmic elevator down you have stepped into, it will be a free
fall of course.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:32:06 UTC
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Your boring ultra-white woman's
food
The racism is strong in this one...and the misogyny...
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:32:48 UTC
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places that are almost 100% white are a bit scary.
The lack of crime discomfits you of course, scumbag.
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:36:22 UTC
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Are you afraid of rancid oil?
Are you needing your scalp removed with a weed eater?
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-19 22:41:39 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:34:50 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
FFS, Carol posted a stir-fry recipe. WTH does the Diary of Anne
Frank have to do with it?
My bad. Bruce suggested East Liverpool, OH, is a hotbed of Klan
activity. Howell, MI, actually is, and it spiraled out of control
from there.
Stuff like that is why I removed him. It's a constant attempt to bring
in politics for him. 'D' has similar issues but I just ignore it.
No, cshenkie, you didn't killfile me for bringing up politics. I
disagreed with you too often. You have a really big ego for someone
who's always wrong about everything.
You got one right, amazingly enough!
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-20 16:02:31 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 09:45:25 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
This map shows groups that are not exclusively NAZI, but just
generalized hate and anti-government*.
https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
*Anti-government isn't just the dislike that we all feel for those
venal pocket-liners in the capital, but people who think government
is actively doing evil in everyone's life.
All I saw was a "DONATE!" link and a bunch of dots on a map.
Because you didn't want to understand the information. I get it.
You don't want to leave your comfortable bubble.
Proud Boys
are in Reno? They never make the news. First I heard of it.
Is there an Antifa, BLM, Occupy Wall Street equivalent to balance things
out, somewhere on the Net?
Why don't you investigate? You might learn something.
I think Leo's learning days ended around the mid 60s.
Yours linger on indefinitley...crayons?
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-22 20:10:23 UTC
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Remember, the Leftists are seeking constantly to expand their power base
through undemocratic means...!!!
🇺🇸 😎 🇺🇸
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GM
Damn, Do you think they will stage another coup attempt on.January 6 again?
They're too busy trying to light off WW3 for that action.
Hank Rogers
2024-11-22 22:47:23 UTC
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Remember, the Leftists are seeking constantly to expand their power base
through undemocratic means...!!!
🇺🇸 😎 🇺🇸
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GM
Damn, Do you think they will stage another coup attempt on.January 6 again?
They're too busy trying to light off WW3 for that action.
Yah, we just need to give ukraine to pootin. Appeasement worked great
for the UK 85 years ago, so it should work now. Especially since donald
and putin are best friends, so we know he can be trusted to honor any
treaties made.

Shit they are just another corrupt bunch of russians anyway, so let's
put all those damn communists together. And we should deport all the
damn democrats there too! Hell, maybe we could even get rid of some
blacks and mexicans in the same deal. And our women are getting too damn
uppity, so they should go to.

Exciting times for sure!
Coogan's Bluff
2024-11-22 23:46:28 UTC
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Post by Hank Rogers
Yah, we just need to give ukraine to pootin. Appeasement worked great
for the UK 85 years ago, so it should work now.
But Ukraine is a backwater shithole of no special strategic value, save
for its grain crop.

Learn.
Petzl
2024-11-23 03:02:11 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:46:28 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
Post by Coogan's Bluff
Post by Hank Rogers
Yah, we just need to give ukraine to pootin. Appeasement worked great
for the UK 85 years ago, so it should work now.
But Ukraine is a backwater shithole of no special strategic value, save
for its grain crop.
Learn.
It's main historical use is for other countries launching attacks on
Russia
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Petzl
Score So Far-

TRUMP:
-Unemployment Rate
-GDP
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-# Blacks Employed
-# Hispanics Employed
-# Women Employed

OBAMA:
-Slick Speaking
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-ISIS Wins
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Rod Speed
2024-11-23 06:17:32 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:46:28 -0700, Coogan's Bluff
Post by Coogan's Bluff
Post by Hank Rogers
Yah, we just need to give ukraine to pootin. Appeasement worked great
for the UK 85 years ago, so it should work now.
But Ukraine is a backwater shithole of no special strategic value, save
for its grain crop.
Learn.
It's main historical use is for other countries launching attacks on
Russia
Bullshit. its not how Hitler or Napoleon did it.
clams casino
2024-11-23 18:58:44 UTC
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I don't even remember what I said a week ago.
For some time it has been suggested that a form of creeping dementia was
to blame for some (if not all) of your absurdities here, thanks for
confirming.
clams casino
2024-11-23 21:04:33 UTC
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I think she's not as computer savvy as she wants to come across.
I think she knows some old shit that baffles a knave like you.
clams casino
2024-11-23 22:07:30 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:11:47 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
Fos, perhaps you should sign onto Medicare.gov and elect to only get
email notifications. Save a tree!
These mailings don't come from medicare. Sentara and Humana in my case.
Based on my 74yo husband, nope. Constant along with AARP which has
NOTHING a military retiree doesn't already have for free.
There you go again. While I agree AARP is useless, your military
retirement benefits via TriCare are irrelevant to most people here.
Jill, think about it. Not everyone can trim every post for what only
pertains to everyone. Medicare itself only pertains to USA RFC folks.
Hey, I have Medicare!
Not OURS, thankfully...

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/medicare
clams casino
2024-11-25 21:57:34 UTC
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A deal for what? A Medicare supplement? Which I'm not yet eligble for,
BTW. That's after I pay them for an annual subscription to a magazine
which gives me coupons to go out to dinner, for travel, hotel stays. In
places nowhere near where I live. I don't go out to diner. I don't
travel. No need to stay in a hotel. But they expect me to pay them for
a membership. NOPE. AARP is useless.
I joined AARP at fifty and paid my dues until they supported the ACA.
I dumped them, and it finally dawned on me that I was a member of a
retired persons union. Yuck! I'm so ashamed!
Fourteen years later, they still have my address. I still get junk mail
from them. They're simply a clearing house for medical insurance, at a
price to the member.
I thought they were the good guys. They ain't! Feel free to disagree.
leo
+1
Lobbying organization with sub-agenda.
Drain the swamp!
It's in the works.

Kill all your rabbits.
clams casino
2024-11-28 23:07:42 UTC
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You're going to get a lot more of those now that abortion's being made
harder and harder. All these fucked up unwanted children ending up on
welfare and involved in crime.
There you go again, wagging your disinformation at us again, it gets so
old...

1. Abortion is NOT "being made harder".

2. States are being enabled to do as they see fit to.

https://time.com/7093731/donald-trump-abortion-state-measures/

By Stephanie Lai / BloombergOctober 15, 2024 9:55 PM EDT

Donald Trump said some states that are restricting abortion rights are
being “too tough” and those measures should be rolled back, as he sought
to win over women skeptical about his approach to reproductive health care.

“It’s going to be redone. They’re going to, you’re going to, you end up
with a vote of the people,” Trump said at a Fox News-hosted town hall in
Cumming, Georgia on Tuesday. “They’re too tough, too tough. And those
are going to be redone because already there’s a movement in those states.”

The Republican nominee didn’t specify which states he was speaking
about, but cited Ohio as an example of a GOP-led state that voted to
expand abortion rights in a recent ballot measure.
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2024-11-28 23:38:56 UTC
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You're going to get a lot more of those now that abortion's being made
harder and harder. All these fucked up unwanted children ending up on
welfare and involved in crime.
There you go again, wagging your disinformation at us again, it gets so
old...
1. Abortion is NOT "being made harder".
2. States are being enabled to do as they see fit to.
"At least 14 states now have outright bans or restrictions on abortion
from conception. "
Which means at least 36 don't!
"The Southeast and parts of the Midwest have become "abortion
deserts," with few or no clinics operating legally. "
We have a great interstate highway system.
"California, New York, and Illinois have taken steps to increase
access by funding abortion services and welcoming out-of-state
patients."
Those states are the least well-run, most fucked up places in this
nation, save for Seattle and Portland.

All you really achieve here is confirming your own leftarded biases.
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2024-12-01 17:50:34 UTC
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You also mentioned working for employers that provide healthcare. Have
you never had a gap? Always worked for the same company?
Six weeks in 1977. I received no unemployment or health benefits. I was
young, healthy, unworried and motivated at the time.
Some of us worked for companies that were sold and moved, owner dies,
taken over by another and had gaps in coverage. ACA would take care of
that.
COBRA does that or did. ACA was not needed for serious people.
You make is sound so easy; glad it was for you. It isn't. I can tell
you stories about young, healthy, motivated people that did not fare as
well.
Leo doesn't care. He only cares about himself.
You are just unpleasant top to bottom.

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2024-12-01 20:11:13 UTC
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You also mentioned working for employers that provide healthcare.
Have
you never had a gap? Always worked for the same company?
Six weeks in 1977. I received no unemployment or health benefits. I was
young, healthy, unworried and motivated at the time.
Some of us worked for companies that were sold and moved, owner dies,
taken over by another and had gaps in coverage.  ACA would take
care of
that.
COBRA does that or did. ACA was not needed for serious people.
You make is sound so easy; glad it was for you.  It isn't.  I can tell
you stories about young, healthy, motivated people that did not fare as
well.
Leo doesn't care. He only cares about himself.
You are just unpleasant top to bottom.
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more people figure out the gerk
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2024-12-02 17:10:32 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 00:29:09 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
You're blaming Lyndon B. Johnson for how things are in 2024?
That's a stretch.
Jill
I wonder how many trillions of dollars of debt over the years have
built up due to LBJ's "war on poverty"?
He started most of the social welfare programs, such as food stamps.
Prior to that, poor people had to grow their own food and make things
they couldn't afford. Now they live in public assistance housing
with lots of freebees.
I kinda agree with you. It's been made too easy to stay on welfare.
And that's the fault of LBJ, who was president from 63 until 69.
Woman, you're thicker than a brick wall.
You're right, LBJ just got the entitlement ball rolling, downhill..over
every man, woman and child in America.

It took Dem complicitors in all branches of giverment to make it stick,
and a complicit leftard media.

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