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The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration laws,
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Dechucka
2020-02-10 23:49:17 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-people-cant-be-deported/11953012

The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.

Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.

Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.

But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Fran
2020-02-11 00:37:47 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-people-cant-be-deported/11953012
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 00:42:47 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the
case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.

Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 01:08:18 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Its actually about their claim that they cant be aliens under the
constitution.
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 01:15:39 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the
aliens powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading
of the case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant
a special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Its actually about their claim that they cant be aliens under the
constitution.
As stated in my OP. Try and keep up
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 01:46:07 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the
case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Its actually about their claim that they cant be aliens under the
constitution.
As stated in my OP.
Pity your later shit had nothing to do with it.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 02:05:18 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the
aliens powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my
reading of the case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to
grant a special status to a certain group of people in certain
situations.
Its actually about their claim that they cant be aliens under the
constitution.
As stated in my OP.
Pity your later shit had nothing to do with it.
How would you know?
I read the original articler, fuckwit.
You are on record as saying you don't read cites.
More of your bare faced lies. I JUST said
that ther ewas no point in reading the
shit that stupid cow cited AGAIN, fuckwit.
Fran
2020-02-11 02:50:01 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the
aliens powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading
of the case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Not born in Australia and yet don't bother to take out Citizenship.
That citizenship rule should apply equally to all. That was first
thought. I'll now spend some time giving it some more thought.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 03:33:32 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the
aliens powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading
of the case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant
a special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Not born in Australia and yet don't bother to take out Citizenship. That
citizenship rule should apply equally to all.  That was first thought.
I'll now spend some time giving it some more thought.
Cool thanks
Wotawonderfulworld
2020-02-11 05:01:13 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the
case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.

You either is or you ain't

And if they were going to deport him, does that mean he currently has
citizenship in another country ? Or are we just going to send him to
Somalia cause we can ? (Via the back door) ?
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 06:20:06 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the
case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.

Fuck all a full bloods anymore.
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And if they were going to deport him, does that
mean he currently has citizenship in another country ?
Yep.
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Or are we just going to send
him to Somalia cause we can ?
Nope.
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(Via the back door) ?
Nope.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 06:30:50 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are identified as
aborigines. For that reason, it really is as clear as that.
Post by Rod Speed
Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod. OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered
by the pretend aborigines.

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Rod Speed
2020-02-11 07:50:21 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are identified
as aborigines. For that reason, it really is as clear as that.
Not with the DNA it isnt.
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Post by Rod Speed
Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod.
None of those the HC decision is about are.
Post by Ned Latham
OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered
by the pretend aborigines.
Just because you arent a full blood doesn't make you a pretend abo.
jonz
2020-02-11 08:36:28 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are identified
as aborigines. For that reason, it really is as clear as that.
Not with the DNA it isnt.
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Post by Rod Speed
Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod.
None of those the HC decision is about are.
Post by Ned Latham
OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered
by the pretend aborigines.
Just because you arent a full blood doesn't make you a pretend abo.
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Siding with, (fine) yet you use derogatory terms to describe aboriginal ppl....stupid cunt you are!.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 09:40:01 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are identified
as aborigines. For that reason, it really is as clear as that.
Not with the DNA it isnt.
They can identify us in categories as fine as family, as diverse as
region, and as controversial as race.
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Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod.
None of those the HC decision is about are.
The one in teh news, you mean? Where that white man was exempted from
deportation even though he's an alien? Yair, you're right: they're all
over the place. But they're not aborigines.
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Post by Ned Latham
OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered by the pretend aborigines.
Just because you arent a full blood doesn't make you a pretend abo.
Oh, but it does[1]. With very few exceptions, membership of the tribe
depends on both birth and training, and those whose birth was outside
the rules didn't get the training. If they survived long enough, they'd
learn some stuff, but not the tribe's secret business.

They are rejected by the tribe. What ground is there for rejecting the
tribe's decision?

[1] With very few exceptions.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 18:44:08 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are identified
as aborigines. For that reason, it really is as clear as that.
Not with the DNA it isnt.
They can identify us in categories as fine as family,
as diverse as region, and as controversial as race.
But none of those Dutton wants
to kick out are full bloods.
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Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod.
None of those the HC decision is about are.
The one in teh news, you mean?
Yep.
Post by Ned Latham
Where that white man was exempted from
deportation even though he's an alien?
The HC has just rules that an abo cant be an alien.
Post by Ned Latham
Yair, you're right: they're all over the
place. But they're not aborigines.
The HC has just ruled that two of the three are.
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OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered by the pretend aborigines.
Just because you arent a full blood doesn't make you a pretend abo.
Oh, but it does[1].
Bullshit.
Post by Ned Latham
With very few exceptions, membership of the tribe
Very few of the abos are tribal abos anymore.
Post by Ned Latham
depends on both birth and training, and those whose
birth was outside the rules didn't get the training.
You don’t know that either with the one
that showed up here when he was 5.

Legally abos are entitled to leave the country
for a while just like people like you and I are.
Post by Ned Latham
If they survived long enough, they'd learn
some stuff, but not the tribe's secret business.
They are rejected by the tribe.
Irrelevant to whether they are aliens
under the constitution. They arent.
Post by Ned Latham
What ground is there for rejecting the tribe's decision?
Its irrelevant to whether they are aliens as
far as the federal constitution is concerned.
If they arent, they can't be kicked out.
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[1] With very few exceptions.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 19:19:53 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to
deport pez as he claims to be aboriginal? No seriously
I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are
identified as aborigines. For that reason, it really is as
clear as that.
Not with the DNA it isnt.
They can identify us in categories as fine as family,
as diverse as region, and as controversial as race.
But none of those Dutton wants to kick out are full bloods.
Irrelevant. The political and legal position privileges those who are
identified as aborigines. For that reason, you is or you ain't is a very
stark difference, and DNA *does* distinguish them definitively.
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Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod.
None of those the HC decision is about are.
The one in the news, you mean?
Yep.
Post by Ned Latham
Where that white man was exempted from > deportation even though he's
an alien?
The HC has just rules that an abo cant be an alien.
That's political correctness run amok. Rampant racism.
Post by Ned Latham
Yair, you're right: they're all over the
place. But they're not aborigines.
The HC has just ruled that two of the three are.
More rampant PC racism.
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Post by Rod Speed
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OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered by the pretend aborigines.
Just because you arent a full blood doesn't make you a pretend abo.
Oh, but it does[1].
Bullshit.
Wrong.
Post by Ned Latham
With very few exceptions, membership of the tribe
Very few of the abos are tribal abos anymore.
Wrong. Those who aren't tribal aboes aren't aboes.
Post by Ned Latham
depends on both birth and training, and those whose
birth was outside the rules didn't get the training.
You don't know that either with the one that showed up here when
he was 5.
Yes, I do. He's in a wrong skin group.
Legally abos are entitled to leave the country
for a while just like people like you and I are.
Irrelevant. This is about aliens.
Post by Ned Latham
If they survived long enough, they'd learn some stuff, but not the
tribe's secret business.
They are rejected by the tribe.
Irrelevant to whether they are aliens
under the constitution. They arent.
That decision is not based on the Constitution, rather, on what the
Politikal Korrektness Klub wish it to be.
Post by Ned Latham
What ground is there for rejecting the tribe's decision?
Its irrelevant to whether they are aliens as
far as the federal constitution is concerned.
If they arent, they can't be kicked out.
I didn't ask about that. I asked what ground is there for that.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 20:21:51 UTC
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Be interested what issues you see, not being able to
deport pez as he claims to be aboriginal? No seriously
I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
You either is or you ain't
Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The political and legal position privileges those who are
identified as aborigines. For that reason, it really is as
clear as that.
Not with the DNA it isnt.
They can identify us in categories as fine as family,
as diverse as region, and as controversial as race.
But none of those Dutton wants to kick out are full bloods.
Irrelevant.
Nope,. not with the silly line about DNA.
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The political and legal position privileges
those who are identified as aborigines.
But it isnt only the full bloods that are.
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For that reason, you is or you ain't is a very stark difference,
Only if you are actually stupid enough
to claim that only full bloods are abos.
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and DNA *does* distinguish them definitively.
Nope, only with full bloods.
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Fuck all are full bloods anymore.
They're not exactly scarce, Rod.
None of those the HC decision is about are.
The one in the news, you mean?
Yep.
Post by Ned Latham
Where that white man was exempted from > deportation even though he's
an alien?
The HC has just ruled that an abo cant be an alien.
That's political correctness run amok. Rampant racism.
Nope, just what the constitution says about aliens.
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Yair, you're right: they're all over the
place. But they're not aborigines.
The HC has just ruled that two of the three are.
More rampant PC racism.
Wrong, as always.
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OTOH they're pretty heavily outnumbered by the pretend aborigines.
Just because you arent a full blood doesn't make you a pretend abo.
Oh, but it does[1].
Bullshit.
Wrong.
Bullshit.
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Post by Ned Latham
With very few exceptions, membership of the tribe
Very few of the abos are tribal abos anymore.
Wrong.
Fact.
Post by Ned Latham
Those who aren't tribal aboes aren't aboes.
Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.

And the ones that arent tribal certainly arent
aliens even if a parent happens to be out of
the country at the time they are born, just
like with us non abos who were born here.
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Post by Ned Latham
depends on both birth and training, and those whose
birth was outside the rules didn't get the training.
You don't know that either with the one that showed up here when
he was 5.
Yes, I do. He's in a wrong skin group.
But not an alien.
Post by Ned Latham
Legally abos are entitled to leave the country
for a while just like people like you and I are.
Irrelevant.
Nope.
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This is about aliens.
Those arent aliens.
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Post by Ned Latham
If they survived long enough, they'd learn
some stuff, but not the tribe's secret business.
They are rejected by the tribe.
Irrelevant to whether they are aliens
under the constitution. They arent.
That decision is not based on the Constitution,
Wrong, as always.
Post by Ned Latham
rather, on what the Politikal Korrektness Klub wish it to be.
Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.
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Post by Ned Latham
What ground is there for rejecting the tribe's decision?
Its irrelevant to whether they are aliens as
far as the federal constitution is concerned.
If they arent, they can't be kicked out.
I didn't ask about that.
You have always been and always will be completely irrelevant.
What you may or may not have asked about in spades.
Post by Ned Latham
I asked what ground is there for that.
You have always been and always will be completely irrelevant.
What you may or may not have asked about in spades.
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2020-02-11 21:02:18 UTC
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What ground is there for rejecting the tribe's decision?
Its irrelevant to whether they are aliens as
far as the federal constitution is concerned.
If they arent, they can't be kicked out.
I didn't ask about that. I asked what ground is there for that.
You have always been and always will be completely irrelevant.
Wrong, As always.

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Rod Speed
2020-02-11 21:34:04 UTC
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Some donkey claiming to be
Ned Latham <***@woden.valhalla.oz>
spewed just the shit it always ends up with when
its got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.
Fran
2020-02-11 09:48:11 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the
case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
No, it's not possible to check whether one has Aboriginal ancestors from
a DNA test. It is possible to check parentage against specific people
but for that the DNA of the parents needs to be available.
Post by Wotawonderfulworld
You either is or you ain't
And if they were going to deport him, does that mean he currently has
citizenship in another country ? Or are we just going to send him to
Somalia cause we can ? (Via the back door) ?
There were 2 people involved. One was born in NZ and the other was born
in PNG. Neither had bothered to become Australian citizens in the time
that they lived here as adults (IIRC both came here as children -
certainly one of them did) but both say they have an Abroriginal parent.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 19:16:36 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the
case as it developed
IMO, there are a few issues with that decision.
It seems a logical result given the Mabo decision which seems to grant a
special status to a certain group of people in certain situations.
Be interested what issues you see, not being able to deport pez as he
claims to be aboriginal? No seriously I'd be interest.
Wouldn't they just do a DNA check, and that would tell either way.
No, it's not possible to check whether one has Aboriginal ancestors from
a DNA test. It is possible to check parentage against specific people
but for that the DNA of the parents needs to be available.
Post by Wotawonderfulworld
You either is or you ain't
And if they were going to deport him, does that mean he currently has
citizenship in another country ? Or are we just going to send him to
Somalia cause we can ? (Via the back door) ?
There were 2 people involved.  One was born in NZ and the other was born
in PNG.  Neither had bothered to become Australian citizens in the time
that they lived here as adults
The HC ruled that aboriginals don't have to, to be outside the aliens law


(IIRC both came here as children -
Post by Fran
certainly one of them did) but both say they have an Abroriginal parent.
Ördög
2020-02-11 00:54:55 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!

However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
--
Ördög
Welcome to real Hell on Earth! :)
That is when Lieberals and Countrymorons running the show.
They rain down on you *at your expense* hate, greed, bullying, nepotism
and plutocracy!
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 01:12:46 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because we can.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system
is incapable of dealing with them properly.
Yep, its about kicking them back where they came from.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons
like if their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of
a place to re-socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible
Not even possible. The most you can hope for is that
they give up their criminal behaviour as they get older.
Post by Dechucka
for a meaningful reintegration to society
Not even possible with the worst of them.
Post by Dechucka
to avoid the high rate re-offending which
cost all of us lots of money and pain.
Pity that isnt even possible.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 01:16:44 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because we can.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system
is incapable of dealing with them properly.
Yep, its about kicking them back where they came from.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons
like if their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of
a place to re-socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible
Not even possible. The most you can hope for is that
they give up their criminal behaviour as they get older.
by being rehabilitate in gaol.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 01:47:18 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because we can.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system
is incapable of dealing with them properly.
Yep, its about kicking them back where they came from.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons
like if their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of
a place to re-socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible
Not even possible. The most you can hope for is that
they give up their criminal behaviour as they get older.
by being rehabilitate in gaol.
Nope, they just stop doing it as they get older.

Sane thing happens even if they don’t get caught and jailed.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 01:59:42 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because we can.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system
is incapable of dealing with them properly.
Yep, its about kicking them back where they came from.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons
like if their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of
a place to re-socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible
Not even possible. The most you can hope for is that
they give up their criminal behaviour as they get older.
by being rehabilitate in gaol.
Nope, they just stop doing it as they get older.
Rehabilitation is the way to go if in gaol otherwise it is just
fermentation vessel for more criminal behaviou
Post by Rod Speed
Sane thing happens even if they don’t get caught and jailed.
In that case wouldn't it be better if they don’t get caught and jailed.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 02:07:37 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because we can.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system
is incapable of dealing with them properly.
Yep, its about kicking them back where they came from.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons
like if their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of
a place to re-socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible
Not even possible. The most you can hope for is that
they give up their criminal behaviour as they get older.
by being rehabilitate in gaol.
Nope, they just stop doing it as they get older.
Rehabilitation is the way to go if in gaol
Pity it isnt even possible.
Post by Dechucka
otherwise it is just fermentation vessel for more criminal behaviour
It always is that anyway, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Sane thing happens even if they don’t get caught and jailed.
In that case wouldn't it be better if they don’t get caught and jailed.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 02:17:03 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Sane thing happens even if they don’t get caught and jailed.
In that case wouldn't it be better if they don’t get caught and jailed.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
You said "Sane thing happens even if they don’t get caught and jailed."
which must be better than insane things happening if they caught and jailed.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 02:33:11 UTC
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Dechucka <***@hotmail.com> wrote

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belongs>
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 05:09:03 UTC
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The most you can hope for is that they give up their criminal
behaviour as they get older.
by being rehabilitate in gaol.
Nope, they just stop doing it as they get older.
Rehabilitation is the way to go if in gaol
Pity it isnt even possible.
Post by Dechucka
otherwise it is just fermentation vessel for more criminal behaviour
It always is that anyway, fuckwit.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Sane thing happens even if they don't get caught and jailed.
In that case wouldn't it be better if they don't get caught and jailed.
No. In gaol they're doing the time, not the crime.
Post by Rod Speed
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
You said "Sane thing happens even if they don't get caught and jailed."
That bit of bullshit is characteristic of you, Dopey. The characteristic
being your lack of character.
which must be better than insane things happening if they caught and jailed.
*A* sane thing, moron. Like they have a fit of intelligence and recognise
that doing crime risks their doing time.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 01:14:45 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship.
Totally agree
Post by Dechucka
Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because it makes the Federal Gov look decisive and tough.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Not sure about that.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
The problem with the system is that if enough money is put into actually
rehabilitate prisoners the neo-con shock-jocks and the opposition starts
to claim the we are pampering and pandering to criminals.
BTW there are some people who are so evil or so disruptive/done so much
damage to society that they should be locked up for good.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 01:45:06 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship.
Totally agree
Post by Dechucka
Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because it makes the Federal Gov look decisive and tough.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Not sure about that.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
The problem with the system is that if enough money is put into actually
rehabilitate prisoners
It isnt about money. It isnt even possible,
regardless of how much money is spent.
Post by Dechucka
the neo-con shock-jocks and the opposition starts to claim the we are
pampering and pandering to criminals.
Corse they would be.
Post by Dechucka
BTW there are some people who are so evil or so disruptive/done so much
damage to society that they should be locked up for good.
And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 02:02:07 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship.
Totally agree
Post by Dechucka
Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because it makes the Federal Gov look decisive and tough.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Not sure about that.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
The problem with the system is that if enough money is put into
actually rehabilitate prisoners
It isnt about money. It isnt even possible,
regardless of how much money is spent.
You can back this up or are you trumpeting your arse truths again
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
the neo-con shock-jocks and the opposition starts to claim the we are
pampering and pandering to criminals.
Corse they would be.
Why? Would you prefer that prisoners are brutalized in gaol in the hope
they'll learn their lesson.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
BTW there are some people who are so evil or so disruptive/done so
much damage to society that they should be locked up for good.
And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated.
You can back this up or are you trumpeting your arse truths again
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 02:20:16 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship.
Totally agree
Post by Dechucka
Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because it makes the Federal Gov look decisive and tough.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Not sure about that.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
The problem with the system is that if enough money is put into actually
rehabilitate prisoners
It isnt about money. It isnt even possible,
regardless of how much money is spent.
You can back this up
Yep, the stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
the neo-con shock-jocks and the opposition starts to claim the we are
pampering and pandering to criminals.
Corse they would be.
Why?
Because that’s the way it works, fuckwit.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
BTW there are some people who are so evil or so disruptive/done so much
damage to society that they should be locked up for good.
And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated.
You can back this up
Yep, the stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Dechucka
2020-02-11 02:24:57 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship.
Totally agree
Post by Dechucka
Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because it makes the Federal Gov look decisive and tough.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Not sure about that.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
The problem with the system is that if enough money is put into
actually rehabilitate prisoners
It isnt about money. It isnt even possible,
regardless of how much money is spent.
You can back this up
Yep, the stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
Really or is this more arse trumpeting
Post by Rod Speed
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
the neo-con shock-jocks and the opposition starts to claim the we
are pampering and pandering to criminals.
Corse they would be.
Why?
Because that’s the way it works, fuckwit.
Wow "because" what a profound argument, my kids gave that on up at 5.
Post by Rod Speed
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
BTW there are some people who are so evil or so disruptive/done so
much damage to society that they should be locked up for good.
And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated.
You can back this up
Yep, the stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
Your comment was "And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated." Prove
that nobody in jail can be rehabilitated
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 02:35:53 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship.
Totally agree
Post by Dechucka
Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
Because it makes the Federal Gov look decisive and tough.
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Not sure about that.
Post by Dechucka
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
The problem with the system is that if enough money is put into
actually rehabilitate prisoners
It isnt about money. It isnt even possible,
regardless of how much money is spent.
You can back this up
Yep, the stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
Really
Yep.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
the neo-con shock-jocks and the opposition starts to claim the we are
pampering and pandering to criminals.
Corse they would be.
Why?
Because that’s the way it works, fuckwit.
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Dechucka
BTW there are some people who are so evil or so disruptive/done so
much damage to society that they should be locked up for good.
And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated.
You can back this up
Yep, the stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
Your comment was "And none of those in jail can be rehabilitated." Prove
that nobody in jail can be rehabilitated
The stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 03:36:35 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
The stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
As per normal with your arse trumpet posts you're wrong.
https://www.encartele.net/2018/04/what-can-us-correctional-facilities-learn-from-scandinavian-jails/

BTW before you have a hissy tantrum and cut this remember everybody can
still see it.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 06:14:41 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
The stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
Post by Dechucka
you're wrong.
We'll see...
Post by Dechucka
https://www.encartele.net/2018/04/what-can-us-correctional-facilities-learn-from-scandinavian-jails/
Those are utterly bogus numbers. The reality is that
scandinavia is too stupid to even jail most criminals
and so their recidivism rate is useless to compare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4472929/

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
Dechucka
2020-02-11 06:27:52 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
The stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
 you're wrong.
We'll see...
https://www.encartele.net/2018/04/what-can-us-correctional-facilities-learn-from-scandinavian-jails/
Those are utterly bogus numbers.
They aren't
The reality is that
Post by Rod Speed
scandinavia is too stupid to even jail most criminals
and so their recidivism rate is useless to compare.
You were the one who raised Scandinnavia not me and you were shown to be
trumpeting out of your arse
Post by Rod Speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4472929/
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
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2020-02-11 07:48:14 UTC
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The stupid scandinavians are actually
stupid enough to try that and they get the
same recidivism rate that the countrys
that arent that stupid get.
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
Post by Dechucka
you're wrong.
We'll see...
Post by Dechucka
https://www.encartele.net/2018/04/what-can-us-correctional-facilities-learn-from-scandinavian-jails/
Those are utterly bogus numbers.
They aren't
Corse they are as my second link proves.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
The reality is that scandinavia is too stupid to even jail most criminals
and so their recidivism rate is useless to compare.
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4472929/
Fran
2020-02-11 02:55:39 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
We've done it before with some bloke who was born in ???, came here as a
toddler/baby and didn't even speak the language of the place he was born.


In general, I'd agree that we shouldn't dump crims on other countries
but then some of the crims, I'd say "bloody good, get them out of here
quickly" (eg some of the NZ thugs)
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 03:39:25 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
We've done it before with some bloke who was born in ???, came here as a
toddler/baby and didn't even speak the language of the place he was born.
Yep and there was some pommy bloke as well.
Post by Fran
In general, I'd agree that we shouldn't dump crims on other countries
but then some of the crims, I'd say "bloody good, get them out of here
quickly"  (eg some of the NZ thugs)
Problem is I wouldn't wish them on NZ either. If the are recent arrivals
piss them off but the cases were they have absolutly no ties worries me.
Fran
2020-02-11 03:46:27 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
We've done it before with some bloke who was born in ???, came here as
a toddler/baby and didn't even speak the language of the place he was
born.
Yep and there was some pommy bloke as well.
Post by Fran
In general, I'd agree that we shouldn't dump crims on other countries
but then some of the crims, I'd say "bloody good, get them out of here
quickly"  (eg some of the NZ thugs)
Problem is I wouldn't wish them on NZ either.
:-)) Well there is that. It's a perfectly lovely place. Trouble is,
some of those NZ thugs should not be here.

If the are recent arrivals
Post by Dechucka
piss them off but the cases were they have absolutly no ties worries me.
It worries me somewhat. In the case of the chap born in ??? who didn't
speak the language and whose crime was relatively minor (IIRC), it
worries me. In the case of the NZ thugs I'm thinking of, I wouldn't
give a shit. (But, given that they still had an NZ accent, I'd say they
still had ties there).

But that is the problem with all laws - blunt instrument.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 04:17:11 UTC
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Post by Fran
In general, I'd agree that we shouldn't dump crims on other countries
but then some of the crims, I'd say "bloody good, get them out of
here quickly"  (eg some of the NZ thugs)
Problem is I wouldn't wish them on NZ either.
:-))  Well there is that.  It's a perfectly lovely place.  Trouble is,
some of those NZ thugs should not be here.
I don't know how you do it but I suppose one has to try and figure out
which country is to blame.
If the are recent arrivals
Post by Dechucka
piss them off but the cases were they have absolutly no ties worries me.
It worries me somewhat.  In the case of the chap born in ??? who didn't
speak the language and whose crime was relatively minor (IIRC), it
worries me.  In the case of the NZ thugs I'm thinking of, I wouldn't
give a shit.  (But, given that they still had an NZ accent, I'd say they
still had ties there).
But that is the problem with all laws - blunt instrument.
Getting back to the HC I think I'm happy that our Aboriginal people do
have a special place in Aus even if born overseas. Still have problems
that a special class of citizen is created which I know is contradictory
Fran
2020-02-11 04:46:06 UTC
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Getting back to the HC I think I'm happy that our Aboriginal people do
have a special place in Aus even if born overseas. Still have problems
that a special class of citizen is created which I know is contradictory
Indeed. And I've begun to think that we've done that with
'aboriginality'.

I have a friend whose sister has become an aboriginal. When I expressed
surprise because I didn't know my friend was an aboriginal she said she
wasn't and nor was her sister but "some idiot in Walcha had recognised
that sister as being an aboriginal" and apparently that is all that is
required. (Perhaps it was Walgett rather than Walcha, but I'm sure you
get the point).

Have you read up on Bruce Pascoe? Lots of controversy there ATM.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/ancestry-squabble-damages-indigenous-cause-20200203-p53xb0.html
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/timeline-how-bruce-pascoe-became-aboriginal-or-not/news-story/7752a670bd176873e8a6094d35a5711c

I hate to say it, but Andrew Bolt looks like he might have a valid point.
jonz
2020-02-11 07:05:45 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-
people-cant-be-deported/11953012
Post by Dechucka
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Good idea!
However Australia should NOT deport anyone with demonstrably no
connection to another country other then some vague, inherited
citizenship. Why are we dumping our home grown criminals on other nations?
We've done it before with some bloke who was born in ???, came here as a
toddler/baby and didn't even speak the language of the place he was born.
In general, I'd agree that we shouldn't dump crims on other countries
but then some of the crims, I'd say "bloody good, get them out of here
quickly" (eg some of the NZ thugs)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Racial discrimination eh?...
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
It is not that our criminal justice system is incapable of dealing with
them properly.
Of course, there is that embarrassing matter of using the prisons like if
their were cages for brutal uncaring punishment, instead of a place to re-
socialise/rehabilitate offenders as much as possible for a meaningful
reintegration to society to avoid the high rate re-offending which cost
all of us lots of money and pain.
Petzl
2020-02-11 05:33:59 UTC
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The High Court found that Aboriginal people are exempt from the aliens
powers in the Constitution. Seems fair to me from my reading of the case
as it developed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/high-court-rules-aboriginal-people-cant-be-deported/11953012
The High Court has found Aboriginal people are exempt from immigration
laws, after considering the cases of two men facing deportation for
criminal convictions.
Two Indigenous men, Daniel Love and Brendan Thoms, have faced
deportation since failing their migration character tests as a result of
serving jail sentences.
Today the High Court found Aboriginal Australians were not subject to
the alien powers in the constitution and could therefore not be deported
under immigration law.
But the court stopped short of clearing Mr Love entirely, saying they
could not reach agreement on whether he was an Aboriginal person on the
facts stated in the case.
Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-02-11 05:49:45 UTC
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Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
Petzl
2020-02-11 06:41:29 UTC
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snip
Post by Petzl
Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge
Dechucka
2020-02-11 07:36:46 UTC
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Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
Petzl
2020-02-11 08:06:25 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
That's the/A problem there is no compulsion to have those claiming ABO
benefits to prove they are entitled to it
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge
Ördög
2020-02-11 08:47:26 UTC
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Petz
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Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
That's the/A problem there is no compulsion to have those claiming ABO
benefits to prove they are entitled to it
Be careful Petz dear, having what you wished for about to become a
reality.

Have you done that DNA test???
What if you do only to find that your ancestry includes a nice chunk of
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes too! Aren't you going to ban
yourself from OZ for a safe measure?

Or even worth having your undeserved benefits cut!

:P
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with idiots like Petz.
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 09:48:26 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
Petzl
2020-02-11 10:23:06 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
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cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam, in fact
the majority of people were Christian as it was controlled by Rome.
--
Petzl
For over 1,400 years or the beginning of Islam AD 622 year one of
Islamic calendar and Islamic world invasion,

Mohammad was Islams first "refugee", killing/enslaving/killing
everyone in Jewish city he fled too and welcomed him!

The major majority of "refugees" in the world are still Islamic,
Ördög
2020-02-11 11:28:27 UTC
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Petz

/snip/
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam, in fact the
majority of people were Christian as it was controlled by Rome.
Ahem! Rome????
Nope!
Thanks for confirming that you have flunked history in school.

I suppose you have never ever heard of the Byzantine Empire
and the Easters Orthodox Church.

Early Byzantine mosaics in the Middle East
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Byzantine_mosaics_in_the_Middle_East>

That is NOT leftist fake news but well documented history.

Go away, back to your goon-bag Petz. I can't figure out why do you even
bother making such irrational and uninformed assertions when you can
expect to be debunked in no time with 100% certainty.
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with idiots like Petz.
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 13:07:03 UTC
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Post by Ördög
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam, in fact the
majority of people were Christian as it was controlled by Rome.
Ahem! Rome????
Nope!
Thanks for confirming that you have flunked history in school.
I suppose you have never ever heard of the Byzantine Empire
and the Easters Orthodox Church.
Get your head out of your arse, Yap-Yap. The "Byzantine" Empire is the
rump of the Roman Empire. You know, what was left after the Huns and
various other nasties of your ilk destroyed the western half.
Post by Ördög
Early Byzantine mosaics in the Middle East
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Byzantine_mosaics_in_the_Middle_East>
You're a moron, Yap-Yap: Roman relics in the Middle East
https://www.bing.com/search?q=roman+relics+middle+east&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR
Post by Ördög
That is NOT leftist fake news but well documented history.
Same as the bing result above, you bumbling fuckwit, but not your
bullshit straw man.
Post by Ördög
Go away, back to your goon-bag Petz.
Practise what you preasch, lunatic. Get off the red cordial and back
on the lithium.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 18:47:41 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:48:26 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
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cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 19:30:00 UTC
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cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true. Overwhelming majority. Perhaps everyone, because of
the murderous bigotry of Christianity.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
Nope. It's true. Control over the East Roman Empire was exercised
from Constantinople, but it was still "controlled by Rome" in the
sense of being part of the Roman Empire.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 20:25:48 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Ned Latham
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true.
Nope, given the big boom in human populations since then.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true. Overwhelming majority.
BULLSHIT.
Post by Ned Latham
Perhaps everyone,
Nope, there were were plenty of non xtians then.
Post by Ned Latham
because of the murderous bigotry of Christianity.
Mindless silly stuff.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
Nope. It's true.
Bullshit.
Post by Ned Latham
Control over the East Roman Empire was exercised
from Constantinople, but it was still "controlled by
Rome" in the sense of being part of the Roman Empire.
But there were plenty of non xtians then,
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 21:07:01 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true.
Nope, given the big boom in human populations since then.
Irrelevant. His statement clearly states *before Islam*.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true. Overwhelming majority.
BULLSHIT.
Fact.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Perhaps everyone,
Nope, there were were plenty of non xtians then.
Wrong.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
because of the murderous bigotry of Christianity.
Mindless silly stuff.
It's Christianity, a monotheism; what do you expect?
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
Nope. It's true.
Bullshit.
Truth.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Control over the East Roman Empire was exercised
from Constantinople, but it was still "controlled by
Rome" in the sense of being part of the Roman Empire.
But there were plenty of non xtians then,
*Outside* the empire.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 21:37:41 UTC
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The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true.
Nope, given the big boom in human populations since then.
Irrelevant.
Nope.
Post by Ned Latham
His statement clearly states *before Islam*.
And there are far more xtians there now than there
were before the goat fucker showed up just because
of the immense population explosion.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true. Overwhelming majority.
BULLSHIT.
Fact.
BULLSHIT.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Perhaps everyone,
Nope, there were were plenty of non xtians then.
Wrong.
Fact.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
because of the murderous bigotry of Christianity.
Mindless silly stuff.
It's Christianity, a monotheism; what do you expect?
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
Nope. It's true.
Bullshit.
Truth.
Bullshit.
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Control over the East Roman Empire was exercised
from Constantinople, but it was still "controlled by
Rome" in the sense of being part of the Roman Empire.
But there were plenty of non xtians then,
*Outside* the empire.
Inside it too.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 22:16:32 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
Nope. It's true.
Nope, given the big boom in human populations since then.
Irrelevant.
Nope.
Post by Ned Latham
He clearly states *before Islam*.
And there are far more xtians there now than there
were before the goat fucker showed up just because
of the immense population explosion.
Wrong. Also irrelevant, since in context, Petzl's statement
is about the demographic change resulting from the Muslim
invasions.

----deenialist drivel snipped---
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
Control over the East Roman Empire was exercised
from Constantinople, but it was still "controlled by
Rome" in the sense of being part of the Roman Empire.
But there were plenty of non xtians then,
*Outside* the empire.
Inside it too.
Not after Christianity became the state religion.
Petzl
2020-02-11 19:57:41 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,

Mohammad was the first "refugee" his band of murdering thieves were
fleeing Mecca as and when the Meccan's became aware of them attacking
and plundering desert trade caravans.
They fled to Yathrib, a Jewish run city from around AD 610, Eventually
the Meccan's became aware that the head of these murdering thieves was
Mohammad who grabbed much of his loot and fled to Yathrib to avoid
being captured.
This was AD 622 where he joined his gang
(Moslems as they were called then, Aramaic, means Evil and unjust)
Within five years Mohammad and his followers Moslems had killed and or
enslaved the entire city. Renaming it Medina. Afterwards launch
attacks and taking the entire Arab Peninsular.
--
Petzl
For over 1,400 years or the beginning of Islam AD 622 year one of
Islamic calendar and Islamic world invasion,

Mohammad was Islams first "refugee", killing/enslaving/killing
everyone in Jewish city he fled too and welcomed him!

The major majority of "refugees" in the world are still Islamic,
Dechucka
2020-02-11 20:01:03 UTC
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There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
There were no Moslems in the world before Mohammad and no Christians in
the world before Christ. What is your point you mixed up little fellow?
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 20:06:03 UTC
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Post by Petzl
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
There were no Moslems in the world before Mohammad and no Christians in
the world before Christ. What is your point you mixed up little fellow?
You snipped it, you moron.
Ördög
2020-02-11 20:26:55 UTC
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There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
There were no Moslems in the world before Mohammad and no Christians in
the world before Christ. What is your point you mixed up little fellow?
Petz's point was that he know fuck all about history which he made up on
the run depending on the type of hole he dug himself into at any given
time.

Be it the Jews, the Muslims, the political Left or anyone else Petz hates
he is always ready to manufacture bizarre arguments to support that hate.

:(((
--
Ördög
Welcome to real Hell on Earth! :)
That is when Lieberals and Countrymorons running the show.
They rain down on you *at your expense* hate, greed, bullying, nepotism
and plutocracy!
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 21:12:34 UTC
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The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") Rwant to
be absolutely certain that we don't miss its ingnorance and
stupidity...
Post by Ördög
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
There were no Moslems in the world before Mohammad and no Christians in
the world before Christ. What is your point you mixed up little fellow?
Petz's point was that he know fuck all about history
What he wrote above is fact, you retard.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 20:29:19 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 05:47:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:48:26 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
There were more Christians in the Middle East before Islam,
Bullshit.
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
in fact the majority of people were Christian
Bullshit.
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Wrong given the population explosion since then.
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
as it was controlled by Rome.
Like hell it was when that goat fucker showed up.
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Wrong given the population explosion since then.
Post by Petzl
Mohammad was the first "refugee"
That goat fucker was no refugee.
Post by Petzl
his band of murdering thieves were fleeing Mecca
as and when the Meccan's became aware of them
attacking and plundering desert trade caravans.
Irrelevant to now many xtians there were in the middle east at that time.
Post by Petzl
They fled to Yathrib, a Jewish run city from around AD 610,
Eventually the Meccan's became aware that the head of
these murdering thieves was Mohammad who grabbed
much of his loot and fled to Yathrib to avoid being captured.
Irrelevant to now many xtians there were in the middle east at that time.
Post by Petzl
This was AD 622 where he joined his gang
(Moslems as they were called then, Aramaic, means Evil and unjust)
Within five years Mohammad and his followers Moslems had killed and or
enslaved the entire city. Renaming it Medina. Afterwards launch
attacks and taking the entire Arab Peninsular.
Irrelevant to now many xtians there were in the middle east at that time.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 21:19:31 UTC
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Post by Petzl
There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Wrong given the population explosion since then.
Use your brain. Idiot. There were more Christians *before* that.

The exploding population in that part of the world is Muslim.
Non-Muslim populations begin contracting once the Islamic
invasion reaches critical mass. Always.

----snip----
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 21:45:02 UTC
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There were more Christians in the Middle East *before Islam*,
Wrong given the population explosion since then.
There were more Christians *before* that.
You are wrong, as always, given the immense population explosion.
Post by Ned Latham
The exploding population in that part of the world is Muslim.
You are wrong, as always, since the time the goat fucker showed up.
Post by Ned Latham
Non-Muslim populations begin contracting
once the Islamic invasion reaches critical mass.
You are wrong, as always.
Post by Ned Latham
Always.
wrong, in your case.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 18:45:37 UTC
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The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
5 times a day, actually.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 19:21:41 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
5 times a day, actually.
Even in Middle Easter?
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 20:22:36 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Ned Latham
The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") flashes
Post by Ördög
Middle Easter (M U S L I M !!!!!!!) genes
So how does that work, Yap-Yap? Muslim genes turn to Mecca every
April?
5 times a day, actually.
Even in Middle Easter?
Them in spades.
Fran
2020-02-11 09:43:22 UTC
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Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
There is no DNA test that can tell what % of Aboriginal ancestry a
person has.
Petzl
2020-02-11 10:22:40 UTC
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Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
There is no DNA test that can tell what % of Aboriginal ancestry a
person has.
More "Fran" rubbish DNA is very accurate now
https://www.ancestry.com/lp/genetic-testing/ancestrydna-test-accuracy
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 18:44:49 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
There is no DNA test that can tell what % of Aboriginal ancestry a person
has.
Wrong, as always.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 21:09:08 UTC
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Post by Fran
There is no DNA test that can tell what % of Aboriginal ancestry a
person has.
Wrong, as always.
Yep RatShit you are as normal wrong with your arse trumpet comments. Yes
having a S2 mitochondrial genome proves that you have aboriginal
ancestors as it has only been shown in Aboriginals) but not having S2
does not prove you aren't of Aboriginal descent as it is a mitochondrial
genome.

Anyhow some comment from other scientists

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2019/03/16/no-dna-test-exists-aboriginality-scientists116
Mar 2019 - 6:02am
No DNA test exists for Aboriginality: Scientists
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 21:41:13 UTC
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The stupid cow spewed
Post by Fran
There is no DNA test that can tell what % of Aboriginal ancestry a
person has.
Wrong, as always.
<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>
Yes having a S2 mitochondrial genome proves that you have aboriginal
ancestors as it has only been shown in Aboriginals) but not having S2 does
not prove you aren't of Aboriginal descent as it is a mitochondrial
genome.
That aint the only sort of DNA, fuckwit.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 21:57:38 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Yes having a S2 mitochondrial genome proves that you have aboriginal
ancestors as it has only been shown in Aboriginals) but not having S2
does not prove you aren't of Aboriginal descent as it is a
mitochondrial genome.
That aint the only sort of DNA, fuckwit.
that is the ONLY marker for Aus Aboriginal heritage from what I've read.
If you know of others please post them here.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 22:54:05 UTC
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Yes having a S2 mitochondrial genome proves that you have aboriginal
ancestors as it has only been shown in Aboriginals) but not having S2
does not prove you aren't of Aboriginal descent as it is a mitochondrial
genome.
That aint the only sort of DNA, fuckwit.
that is the ONLY marker for Aus Aboriginal heritage from what I've read.
Then you need to read more, fuckwit.
Peter Jason
2020-02-11 20:34:45 UTC
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Post by Petzl
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth? This is the
ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 21:31:34 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls. All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 21:43:19 UTC
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How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls.
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain why
you'd want it.
Post by Rod Speed
All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 21:46:58 UTC
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Post by Peter Jason
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls.
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain why you'd
want it.
Post by Rod Speed
All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
Duh, but it wouldn’t SIMPLIFY THINGS CONSIDERABLY, fuckwit.
Dechucka
2020-02-11 21:54:23 UTC
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Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
Duh, but it wouldn’t SIMPLIFY THINGS CONSIDERABLY, fuckwit.
Yes it would because you'd know that the alleged father wasn't the one
the mother claimed it was. It wouldn't show that the alleged father was
a cuckold, go back and find out how babies are made
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 22:53:23 UTC
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Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
Duh, but it wouldn’t SIMPLIFY THINGS CONSIDERABLY, fuckwit.
Yes it would
Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.

All those sluts exposed on the birth of every bastard. Yeah, right.
Post by Dechucka
because you'd know that the alleged father wasn't the one the mother
claimed it was.
And that would complicate things considerably
over being able to pretend it was the brat of
the one you are shacked up with or married to ?

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
Peter Jason
2020-02-11 22:02:30 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Peter Jason
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls.
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain why you'd
want it.
Post by Rod Speed
All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
Duh, but it wouldn’t SIMPLIFY THINGS CONSIDERABLY, fuckwit.
Silly boy, what about the biometrics at airports?
Peter Jason
2020-02-11 22:01:57 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Peter Jason
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls.
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain why
you'd want it.
For simplicity. Disease tracking, ID,
I had trouble transferring money from one bank to another because my
old signature didn't match my current one. What a DRAG!
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
They all screw around. Tut! such naivete!
Dechucka
2020-02-11 22:11:35 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Peter Jason
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls.
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain why
you'd want it.
For simplicity. Disease tracking,
Would you really want to know that you were going to die from
Huntington's chorea at 30 from the moment you were born?
Post by Peter Jason
ID,
Easier just to put a tattoo on everybody's arm backed up by an implanted
microchip that could be read as you entered the building
Post by Peter Jason
I had trouble transferring money from one bank to another because my
old signature didn't match my current one. What a DRAG!
If the microchip reader fails that lift up your shirt sleeve and show
them your tattoo.
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 22:46:20 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain
why you'd want it.
For simplicity. Disease tracking,
Would you really want to know that you were going to die from
Huntington's chorea at 30 from the moment you were born?
Depends on how selfish you are. Would you, having Huntington's Chorea,
knowingly have children?

----snip----
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 22:59:42 UTC
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Post by Peter Jason
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls.
Why would anybody in their right mind want this. Please explain why
you'd want it.
For simplicity.
It would actually be for complexity with all those sluts.
Post by Peter Jason
Disease tracking, ID,
There might just be a reason we don't even fingerprint everyone.
Post by Peter Jason
I had trouble transferring money from one bank
to another because my old signature didn't
match my current one. What a DRAG!
Even more of a DRAG to have to get a new DNA test
and ensure that it really was your DNA sampled just
to transfer money from one bank to another.
Post by Peter Jason
Post by Dechucka
Post by Rod Speed
All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
DNA testing would actually show the mother had been screwing around.
They all screw around.
But with your stupid scheme that would be proven with that particular brat.
Peter Jason
2020-02-11 21:59:44 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Peter Jason
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls. All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
Are you speaking from experience?
Rod Speed
2020-02-11 22:55:46 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Peter Jason
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
How soon will Govt-funded DNA profile be done at birth?
They'd never have the balls. All those furiously
fucking pollys would be caught so easily.
Post by Peter Jason
This is the ultimate biometric & would simplify things considerably.
Like hell it would when the alleged father turns out to be a cuckold.
Are you speaking from experience?
Nope, from the amazing numbers who have discovered
that who they thought was their dad who isnt when they
do a DNA test. Its something like 30 fucking percent.
Petzl
2020-02-11 20:54:44 UTC
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Doubt if they would pass a DNA check to see if their aboriginality
claims can be verified
How would you know?. As an aboriginal can you tell across the internet?
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
DNA is very accurate now
https://www.ancestry.com/lp/genetic-testing/ancestrydna-test-accuracy
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-02-11 21:01:27 UTC
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DNA is very accurate now
https://www.ancestry.com/lp/genetic-testing/ancestrydna-test-accuracy
Do you think they may have a vested interest in claiming DNA test accuracy
Petzl
2020-02-11 21:37:22 UTC
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DNA is very accurate now
https://www.ancestry.com/lp/genetic-testing/ancestrydna-test-accuracy
Do you think they may have a vested interest in claiming DNA test accuracy
There is concern about privacy these DNA samples keep getting added to
their worldwide "marker" database, which makes them very accurate.
DNA markers can also be taken from bones of those centuries old.
--
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Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within
Dechucka
2020-02-11 21:50:48 UTC
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DNA is very accurate now
https://www.ancestry.com/lp/genetic-testing/ancestrydna-test-accuracy
Do you think they may have a vested interest in claiming DNA test accuracy
There is concern about privacy these DNA samples keep getting added to
their worldwide "marker" database, which makes them very accurate.
DNA markers can also be taken from bones of those centuries old.
They have a vested interest in claiming accuracy of their testing.
Interestingly the algorithms used match you with the DNA markers of
people TODAY not from centuries ages so may not be historically
accurate. Most accurate is mitochondrial DNA testing but as you know has
severe limitations
Ned Latham
2020-02-11 22:03:54 UTC
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Post by Petzl
DNA is very accurate now
https://www.ancestry.com/lp/genetic-testing/ancestrydna-test-accuracy
Do you think they may have a vested interest in claiming DNA test accuracy
There is concern about privacy these DNA samples keep getting added to
their worldwide "marker" database, which makes them very accurate.
DNA markers can also be taken from bones of those centuries old.
They have a vested interest in claiming accuracy of their testing.
The commercial practitioners do. So what?
Post by Dechucka
Interestingly the algorithms used match you with the DNA markers of
people TODAY not from centuries ages so may not be historically
accurate. Most accurate is mitochondrial DNA testing
Crap.
Post by Dechucka
but as you know has severe limitations
If you're talking about that steady rate nonsense, you got something
sort of right for once. Congratulations.
Ördög
2020-02-11 21:06:49 UTC
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Dechucka
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Petzl
Post by Petzl
A now simple DNA test (AU$70) can find and what percentage of
Aboriginal you are
Have you done this test on these people or is it just more lies and
speculation on your part?
DNA is very accurate now
YAWN!

Trying to sidestep the issue won't work this time Petz dear!
Answer the question! So have you done this test?
Or are you just lying full on as per usual.

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