Discussion:
Where is the fatwa against ISIS?
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Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-01 20:41:21 UTC
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"Fatwa.org.au (formerly: mufti-online.net) aims to provide easy access
to reliable and relevant answers to questions related to all aspects of
a Muslim's life. All answers and articles on Fatwa.org.au are written by
fully qualified muftis"
http://www.fatwa.org.au/

Important questions which are addressed:

1. Is the meat of kangaroo halal?

2. When I do wudu I feel gas (gastric) coming. Sometimes I control it
and sometimes it comes out without any sound or smell. I can't control
it as it is comes every 3 or 4 minutes. My question is that in that
situation will I do wudu again or one wudu is enough for one Salah.

3. Is income tax I pay to Indian government not equivalent prima facie
to zakat? If not, am I not burdened twice being a Muslim?

Important questions which are not addressed:

1. Is it permissible to support IS?
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
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The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(Loading Image...),
one (um) jumped-up twit

one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-01 20:55:59 UTC
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"Fatwa.org.au ... All answers and articles on Fatwa.org.au are written by
fully qualified muftis"
http://www.fatwa.org.au/
...
1. Is it permissible to support IS?
"Darulfatwa - Islamic High Council of Australia

If you require an Islamic Fatwa regarding a certain matter, please enter
your name, email address and send us your question. Darulfatwa shall
respond to you as soon as possible. Thankyou".
http://darulfatwa.org.au/en/Darulfatwa-The-Islamic-High-Council-of-Australia


Q. Is it forbidden to support ISIS?

While you're waiting, you can watch some Islamic videos...
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
dechucka
2015-03-01 21:12:02 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
"Fatwa.org.au ... All answers and articles on Fatwa.org.au are written by
fully qualified muftis"
http://www.fatwa.org.au/
...
1. Is it permissible to support IS?
"Darulfatwa - Islamic High Council of Australia
If you require an Islamic Fatwa regarding a certain matter, please enter
your name, email address and send us your question. Darulfatwa shall
respond to you as soon as possible. Thankyou".
http://darulfatwa.org.au/en/Darulfatwa-The-Islamic-High-Council-of-Australia
Why don't you ask them
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Q. Is it forbidden to support ISIS?
Fatwa issued already by Sheik Abdullah bin Bayyah
dechucka
2015-03-01 21:13:24 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
"Fatwa.org.au ... All answers and articles on Fatwa.org.au are written by
fully qualified muftis"
http://www.fatwa.org.au/
...
1. Is it permissible to support IS?
"Darulfatwa - Islamic High Council of Australia
If you require an Islamic Fatwa regarding a certain matter, please enter
your name, email address and send us your question. Darulfatwa shall
respond to you as soon as possible. Thankyou".
http://darulfatwa.org.au/en/Darulfatwa-The-Islamic-High-Council-of-Australia
Liar
Pelican
2015-03-01 21:17:00 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
"Fatwa.org.au ... All answers and articles on Fatwa.org.au are written by
fully qualified muftis"
http://www.fatwa.org.au/
...
1. Is it permissible to support IS?
"Darulfatwa - Islamic High Council of Australia
If you require an Islamic Fatwa regarding a certain matter, please enter
your name, email address and send us your question. Darulfatwa shall
respond to you as soon as possible. Thankyou".
http://darulfatwa.org.au/en/Darulfatwa-The-Islamic-High-Council-of-Australia
Liar
You will get RSI with that response to Foster.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-01 21:07:37 UTC
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"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.

The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.

The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.

The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'".

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-01 21:15:23 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty
Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-01 21:27:57 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same*
as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a
greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa.
And a call for a fatwa against ISIS, you label as "slander".

So by your own words, you regard Christmas as worse than ISIS.
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation
of it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with
an alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby
from a father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle
conception, and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
Blah blah bah. Still no fatwa from Australian sheikhs/mufti against ISIS.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
dechucka
2015-03-01 21:35:20 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same*
as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a
greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa.
And a call for a fatwa against ISIS, you label as "slander".
So by your own words, you regard Christmas as worse than ISIS.
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation
of it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with
an alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby
from a father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle
conception, and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
Blah blah bah. Still no fatwa from Australian sheikhs/mufti against ISIS.
a fatwa against ISIS has been issued and you claim they are binding.
Petzl
2015-03-02 01:01:49 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same*
as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a
greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa.
And a call for a fatwa against ISIS, you label as "slander".
So by your own words, you regard Christmas as worse than ISIS.
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation
of it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with
an alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby
from a father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle
conception, and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
Blah blah bah. Still no fatwa from Australian sheikhs/mufti against ISIS.
a fatwa against ISIS has been issued and you claim they are binding.
Rubbish no Fatwa against ISIS has ever been issued from Lakemba Mosque
or any Australian Mosque. The have sent Moslems to fight with and for
ISIS though. Actions speak louder than words.
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
Petzl
2015-03-02 00:54:47 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:27:57 +1100, Abominable Liar Party
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same*
as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a
greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa.
And a call for a fatwa against ISIS, you label as "slander".
So by your own words, you regard Christmas as worse than ISIS.
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation
of it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with
an alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby
from a father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle
conception, and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
Blah blah bah. Still no fatwa from Australian sheikhs/mufti against ISIS.
Pelican is another of ur Christian Nations “Sonderkommandos”

In WWII Jews did not fight back because the “Sonderkommandos” (who
were conscripted Jews) convinced other Jews they were going to be
looked after in camps by the nice peaceful Nazi people!
Australia the same is happening
Comparison between today’s Islamic sympathisers and WW2 Jewish death
camps.
http://youtu.be/gRLjNGhBTXg
--
Petzl
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.
But it cannot survive treason from within.
An enemy at the gates is less formidable,for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely,
his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,heard
in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor;
he speaks in accents familiar to his victims,
and he wears their face
and their arguments,he appeals to the baseness
that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation,
he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of the city,
he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to fear.
The traitor is the plague.--Marcus Tullius Cicero
dechucka
2015-03-02 00:59:08 UTC
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snip
In WWII Jews did not fight back because the "Sonderkommandos"
apart from the one that did. Your knowledge of history is on par with your
constitutional knowledge- nonexistent
Petzl
2015-03-02 01:17:28 UTC
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Post by dechucka
snip
In WWII Jews did not fight back because the "Sonderkommandos"
apart from the one that did. Your knowledge of history is on par with your
constitutional knowledge- nonexistent
Gobbelian denials
Pelican, dechucka are another of our Christian Nations
“Sonderkommandos”

In WWII Jews did not fight back because the “Sonderkommandos” (who
were conscripted Jews) convinced other Jews they were going to be
looked after in camps by the nice peaceful Nazi people!
Australia the same is happening
Comparison between today’s Islamic sympathisers and WW2 Jewish death
camps.
http://youtu.be/gRLjNGhBTXg
Petzl
--
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions, the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
geopelia
2015-03-01 22:32:44 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty
Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.

..............

Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.

But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
Pelican
2015-03-01 22:38:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty
Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-01 23:08:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become
a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the
*same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is
a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
Free to be a bigot.

How what you believe to be non-events can be contradicted by your
experience is interesting. Do you do time travel as well?

No need to answer. What are you on? Take it easy, don't O/D on it.
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
It means Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics and atheists celebrating
Christmas along with Christians.

Advice: Get a GPS device and figure out what country you're in.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-01 23:21:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become
a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the
*same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is
a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
Free to be a bigot.
How what you believe to be non-events can be contradicted by your
experience is interesting.
Who claimed a non-event? Just Foster lies and fuckwittery, again.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Do you do time travel as well?
No, BTFA.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
No need to answer.
Of course not.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
What are you on?
Projection.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Take it easy, don't O/D on it.
I might say the same, but I wouldn't mean it.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
It means Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics and atheists celebrating
Christmas along with Christians.
Just Foster lies and fuckwittery, again.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Advice: Get a GPS device and figure out what country you're in.
Take your own advice.

You really are a stupid, lying fuckwit.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-02 00:48:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become
a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the
*same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is
a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
Free to be a bigot.
How what you believe to be non-events can be contradicted by your
experience is interesting.
Who claimed a non-event? Just Foster lies and fuckwittery, again.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Do you do time travel as well?
No, BTFA.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
No need to answer.
Of course not.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
What are you on?
Projection.
Is that a new one?
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Take it easy, don't O/D on it.
I might say the same, but I wouldn't mean it.
The given is that you will *say* something. Why orifice you use is
arbitrary.
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
It means Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics and atheists celebrating
Christmas along with Christians.
Just Foster lies and fuckwittery, again.
The OP put it kindly.

"And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians".

Actually, it also insults atheists who respect the beliefs of others.

Which basically means that you're a stupid fuckwit.
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Advice: Get a GPS device and figure out what country you're in.
Take your own advice.
You really are a stupid, lying fuckwit.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
geopelia
2015-03-02 12:22:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty
Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
..............
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?

............
Everybody enjoying the celebration but leaving out the religious side.
Easter seems to be going the same way.
dechucka
2015-03-02 21:31:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
..............
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
buying lots of presents getting together with family getting drunk and
fighting. Vow never to see family do it all again next year
Pelican
2015-03-02 21:41:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same* as
congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a greater
sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than congratulating him
for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or committing fornication or
adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
..............
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
buying lots of presents getting together with family getting drunk and
fighting. Vow never to see family do it all again next year
It is good that you also support the fatwa.
dechucka
2015-03-02 22:39:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same*
as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a
greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
..............
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
buying lots of presents getting together with family getting drunk and
fighting. Vow never to see family do it all again next year
It is good that you also support the fatwa.
why would I support or not support a fatwa where I didn't ask for a ruling.
BTW can a old Shore boy ask for a fatwa?
Pelican
2015-03-02 22:47:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become
a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the
*same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is
a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
..............
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
buying lots of presents getting together with family getting drunk and
fighting. Vow never to see family do it all again next year
It is good that you also support the fatwa.
why would I support or not support a fatwa where I didn't ask for a ruling.
That's like asking whether you support your life when you didn't ask to be
born. There is a fatwa - you make a choice between supporting it, not
supporting it, or ignoring it.
Post by dechucka
BTW can a old Shore boy ask for a fatwa?
No. There is a special rule that prevents a old Shore boy asking for a
fatwa. It's in the Qu'ran.
Pelican
2015-03-02 21:42:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Post by Pelican
..............
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
............
Everybody enjoying the celebration but leaving out the religious side.
Easter seems to be going the same way.
dechucka
2015-03-02 22:40:27 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same* as
congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a greater
sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than congratulating him
for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or committing fornication or
adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
Pelican
2015-03-02 22:59:09 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same*
as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a
greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than
congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun revolves
around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions, or abortion,
or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to their own devices.
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone. They
most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they will insist on
it, and they will use force to have their way given half a chance. We have
seen it many times in the past, and we see it right now. People don't
change. In my view, people who hold to views about the real world that are
manifestly incorrect should be challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their
delusions.
dechucka
2015-03-02 23:18:31 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions, or
abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to their
own devices.
Why not?
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone. They
most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they will insist
on it, and they will use force to have their way given half a chance. We
have seen it many times in the past, and we see it right now. People
don't change. In my view, people who hold to views about the real world
that are manifestly incorrect should be challenged, vigorously. Or
treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be right. It
is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me why not let them
have their 'fun'
Pelican
2015-03-02 23:55:35 UTC
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Post by dechucka
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions, or
abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to their
own devices.
Why not?
See below.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone. They
most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they will insist
on it, and they will use force to have their way given half a chance. We
have seen it many times in the past, and we see it right now. People
don't change. In my view, people who hold to views about the real world
that are manifestly incorrect should be challenged, vigorously. Or
treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be right.
It is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me why not let
them have their 'fun'
The answer is clear. They insist that they are right, and that everyone
must comply. They never have just one peculiar belief. They always have a
constellation of beliefs, and at least some of them we must all adopt. So
far as being right is concerned, that is irrational. Right or wrong relates
to the real world. Religious belief depends on faith. The belief is not
subject to being right or wrong. In short, it's a psychiatric condition.

It's easily tested. Tell any group of people that you are the prophet of
any sky fairy you please. Believe it yourself. The only people you will
attract to your claims are nutters. You know it's so.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:04:36 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
snip
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions,
or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to
their own devices.
Why not?
See below.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone.
They most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they will
insist on it, and they will use force to have their way given half a
chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see it right
now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to views about
the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be challenged,
vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be right.
It is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me why not let
them have their 'fun'
The answer is clear. They insist that they are right, and that everyone
must comply. They never have just one peculiar belief. They always have
a constellation of beliefs, and at least some of them we must all adopt.
So far as being right is concerned, that is irrational. Right or wrong
relates to the real world. Religious belief depends on faith. The belief
is not subject to being right or wrong. In short, it's a psychiatric
condition.
Most people have no desire to impose their pov. Those that do are OK if they
shut up when told you are not interested. The one that I worry about are
those that try to make me live a life based on their book or use their book
for political reasons.
Post by Pelican
It's easily tested. Tell any group of people that you are the prophet of
any sky fairy you please. Believe it yourself. The only people you will
attract to your claims are nutters. You know it's so.
I do but just because their beliefs are different to mine is totally
irrelevant to me.
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:08:11 UTC
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Most people have no desire to impose their pov.
Then your life experience is different to mine.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:09:39 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Most people have no desire to impose their pov.
Then your life experience is different to mine.
Differences make this world an interesting place
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:22:15 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Most people have no desire to impose their pov.
Then your life experience is different to mine.
Differences make this world an interesting place
Certainly.
abelard
2015-03-03 00:11:15 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
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dechucka
2015-03-03 00:15:05 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
I believe both left and right have an ability to like tripe. One of my
favourite dishes at Yum Cha
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:23:56 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:26:57 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
Now you're against tripe. Which end of the boiled egg do you crack?
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:34:30 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
Now you're against tripe.
Not at all. There are many things I choose not to eat - chocolate-coated
cockroaches, McDonalds, etc.
Post by dechucka
Which end of the boiled egg do you crack?
I have one of my serfs de-shell my boiled eggs.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:37:16 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
Now you're against tripe.
Not at all. There are many things I choose not to eat - chocolate-coated
cockroaches, McDonalds, etc.
but that is not what you inferred in your tripe reply
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:44:01 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
Now you're against tripe.
Not at all. There are many things I choose not to eat - chocolate-coated
cockroaches, McDonalds, etc.
but that is not what you inferred in your tripe reply
The usual convention is that I imply, and you infer.

So far as tripe is concerned, I neither expressed a view for or against
tripe. What you might have inferred is neither here nor there. Your
inference was fact-free.
dechucka
2015-03-03 01:06:12 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
Now you're against tripe.
Not at all. There are many things I choose not to eat -
chocolate-coated cockroaches, McDonalds, etc.
but that is not what you inferred in your tripe reply
The usual convention is that I imply, and you infer.
So far as tripe is concerned, I neither expressed a view for or against
tripe. What you might have inferred is neither here nor there. Your
inference was fact-free.
but what I infer is my reality.Your comment "Best left for those lacking."
may of needed clarification as in those who like tripe are lacking in what?
'
Pelican
2015-03-03 01:39:14 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by abelard
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:55:35 +1100, "Pelican"
Right or wrong relates to the real world.
like right and left and like a taste for tripe
Best left for those lacking.
Now you're against tripe.
Not at all. There are many things I choose not to eat -
chocolate-coated cockroaches, McDonalds, etc.
but that is not what you inferred in your tripe reply
The usual convention is that I imply, and you infer.
So far as tripe is concerned, I neither expressed a view for or against
tripe. What you might have inferred is neither here nor there. Your
inference was fact-free.
but what I infer is my reality.Your comment "Best left for those lacking."
may of needed clarification as in those who like tripe are lacking in what?
This is known as nuance.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:38:42 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Which end of the boiled egg do you crack?
I have one of my serfs de-shell my boiled eggs.
but does it have freedom of choice to make the original crack at either end?
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:46:27 UTC
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Post by dechucka
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Which end of the boiled egg do you crack?
I have one of my serfs de-shell my boiled eggs.
but does it have freedom of choice to make the original crack at either end?
Strange though you may find it, I do not micro-manage the egg-cracking of my
serfs. They have quite a lot of autonomy. Incidentally, they are he or
she, not it.
dechucka
2015-03-03 01:07:59 UTC
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Post by dechucka
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Which end of the boiled egg do you crack?
I have one of my serfs de-shell my boiled eggs.
but does it have freedom of choice to make the original crack at either end?
Strange though you may find it, I do not micro-manage the egg-cracking of
my serfs.
I thought it may be important to you. 'Wars' have been fought over it in
fiction
Post by Pelican
They have quite a lot of autonomy. Incidentally, they are he or she, not
it.
Really? You bothered to notice?
Pelican
2015-03-03 01:39:48 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Which end of the boiled egg do you crack?
I have one of my serfs de-shell my boiled eggs.
but does it have freedom of choice to make the original crack at either end?
Strange though you may find it, I do not micro-manage the egg-cracking of
my serfs.
I thought it may be important to you. 'Wars' have been fought over it in
fiction
Post by Pelican
They have quite a lot of autonomy. Incidentally, they are he or she, not
it.
Really? You bothered to notice?
Nothing escapes me. Usually.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 02:46:44 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood
transfusions, or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy,
should be left to their own devices.
Why not?
See below.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone.
They most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they
will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way given
half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see it
right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be
right. It is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me
why not let them have their 'fun'
The answer is clear. They insist that they are right, and that everyone
must comply. They never have just one peculiar belief. They always
have a constellation of beliefs, and at least some of them we must all
adopt. So far as being right is concerned, that is irrational. Right
or wrong relates to the real world. Religious belief depends on faith.
The belief is not subject to being right or wrong. In short, it's a
psychiatric condition.
You are arrogant and completely wrong. Religious belief doesn't *only*
depend on faith, it also depends on interpretation.

People interpreted *real* events that took place 2,000 years ago in a
certain way. You may disagree with their interpretation but you cannot
say that the events were not real.

A scientist would examine the evidence, including writings and
archaeological evidence with high skepticism and would also reach
certain interpretations.

The latter is more likely to be correct but in case you are completely
ignorant, it isn't entirely inconsistent with the interpretation in the
writings. In fact, we have 4 books which corroborate the events which
adds considerable weight to it.

You OTOH are just a twot, farting his stupid opinion into the ether and
offending people at the same time. What for?

In short, you have a psychiatric condition.
Post by Pelican
It's easily tested. Tell any group of people that you are the prophet
of any sky fairy you please. Believe it yourself. The only people you
will attract to your claims are nutters. You know it's so.
What does that prove?

Nothing.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:13:54 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood
transfusions, or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy,
should be left to their own devices.
Why not?
See below.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone.
They most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they
will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way given
half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see it
right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be
right. It is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me
why not let them have their 'fun'
The answer is clear. They insist that they are right, and that everyone
must comply. They never have just one peculiar belief. They always
have a constellation of beliefs, and at least some of them we must all
adopt. So far as being right is concerned, that is irrational. Right
or wrong relates to the real world. Religious belief depends on faith.
The belief is not subject to being right or wrong. In short, it's a
psychiatric condition.
You are arrogant and completely wrong. Religious belief doesn't *only*
depend on faith, it also depends on interpretation.
People interpreted *real* events that took place 2,000 years ago in a
certain way. You may disagree with their interpretation but you cannot say
that the events were not real.
I say that some of the events are unlikely, some extremely unlikely, and
some are not at all credible.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
A scientist would examine the evidence, including writings and
archaeological evidence with high skepticism and would also reach certain
interpretations.
No doubt. What you mean by a "scientist", of course, is a person who
reaches conclusions based on evidence, where the conclusion can be proved or
disproved. The conclusion is not taken on faith.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
The latter is more likely to be correct but in case you are completely
ignorant, it isn't entirely inconsistent with the interpretation in the
writings. In fact, we have 4 books which corroborate the events which adds
considerable weight to it.
Utter bullshit.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
You OTOH are just a twot, farting his stupid opinion into the ether and
offending people at the same time. What for?
You are a stupid, lying fuckwit.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
In short, you have a psychiatric condition.
You are a psychotic nutter.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
It's easily tested. Tell any group of people that you are the prophet
of any sky fairy you please. Believe it yourself. The only people you
will attract to your claims are nutters. You know it's so.
What does that prove?
It proves that, if you run the story of the existence of a sky fairy today,
no-one would believe you. That's no-one.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Nothing.
See above.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 05:31:58 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood
transfusions, or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy,
should be left to their own devices.
Why not?
See below.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone.
They most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they
will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way given
half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see it
right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be
right. It is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me
why not let them have their 'fun'
The answer is clear. They insist that they are right, and that everyone
must comply. They never have just one peculiar belief. They always
have a constellation of beliefs, and at least some of them we must all
adopt. So far as being right is concerned, that is irrational. Right
or wrong relates to the real world. Religious belief depends on faith.
The belief is not subject to being right or wrong. In short, it's a
psychiatric condition.
You are arrogant and completely wrong. Religious belief doesn't *only*
depend on faith, it also depends on interpretation.
People interpreted *real* events that took place 2,000 years ago in a
certain way. You may disagree with their interpretation but you cannot
say that the events were not real.
I say that some of the events are unlikely, some extremely unlikely, and
some are not at all credible.
And some are likely & credible.
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
A scientist would examine the evidence, including writings and
archaeological evidence with high skepticism and would also reach
certain interpretations.
No doubt. What you mean by a "scientist", of course, is a person who
reaches conclusions based on evidence, where the conclusion can be
proved or disproved. The conclusion is not taken on faith.
That is precisely what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did.
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
The latter is more likely to be correct but in case you are completely
ignorant, it isn't entirely inconsistent with the interpretation in
the writings. In fact, we have 4 books which corroborate the events
which adds considerable weight to it.
Utter bullshit.
We don't have four books?

You obviously presented that argument to all four of your fuctioning
neurons.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:40:56 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood
transfusions, or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy,
should be left to their own devices.
Why not?
See below.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Experience tells me that such people do not let other people alone.
They most certainly do want other people to agree with them, they
will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way given
half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see it
right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Challenge them with facts. Remember the sky fairy believers may be
right. It is their choice and as long as they don't interfer with me
why not let them have their 'fun'
The answer is clear. They insist that they are right, and that everyone
must comply. They never have just one peculiar belief. They always
have a constellation of beliefs, and at least some of them we must all
adopt. So far as being right is concerned, that is irrational. Right
or wrong relates to the real world. Religious belief depends on faith.
The belief is not subject to being right or wrong. In short, it's a
psychiatric condition.
You are arrogant and completely wrong. Religious belief doesn't *only*
depend on faith, it also depends on interpretation.
People interpreted *real* events that took place 2,000 years ago in a
certain way. You may disagree with their interpretation but you cannot
say that the events were not real.
I say that some of the events are unlikely, some extremely unlikely, and
some are not at all credible.
And some are likely & credible.
Not the existence of a sky fairy, not a virgin birth, not a baby who is the
son of a sky fairy, and... (*) Enough of this religious bullshit!
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
A scientist would examine the evidence, including writings and
archaeological evidence with high skepticism and would also reach
certain interpretations.
No doubt. What you mean by a "scientist", of course, is a person who
reaches conclusions based on evidence, where the conclusion can be
proved or disproved. The conclusion is not taken on faith.
That is precisely what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did.
Well, they would be reliable witnesses of fact, wouldn't they! And which
bit of the above (*) do they support?
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
The latter is more likely to be correct but in case you are completely
ignorant, it isn't entirely inconsistent with the interpretation in
the writings. In fact, we have 4 books which corroborate the events
which adds considerable weight to it.
Utter bullshit.
We don't have four books?
You might have any number of fairy tales. The Jews do, as do the Moslems.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
You obviously presented that argument to all four of your fuctioning
neurons.
You really are a stupid, lying fuckwit, Foster.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-02 23:53:37 UTC
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"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not
become a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is
the *same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity,
which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah
than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions,
or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to
their own devices. Experience tells me that such people do not let other
people alone. They most certainly do want other people to agree with
them, they will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way
given half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see
it right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Tell us about your 'experience' that contradicts Christian beliefs.

What were your whereabouts in zero BC?

Stupid twonk.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:02:29 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not
become a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is
the *same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity,
which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah
than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions,
or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to
their own devices. Experience tells me that such people do not let other
people alone. They most certainly do want other people to agree with
them, they will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way
given half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see
it right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Tell us about your 'experience' that contradicts Christian beliefs.
I have not ever experienced anything that indicates that there is any sort
of sky fairy. I do not know anyone who has had such an experience. I am
told by those who profess a belief in a sky fairy that it's a matter of
faith. That's my experience that contradicts the belief in a sky fairy,
whether of a Jewish, Christian or Islamic flavour.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
What were your whereabouts in zero BC?
Stupid twonk.
You really are a stupid, lying fuckwit, Foster.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 02:51:00 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not
become a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is
the *same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity,
which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah
than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions,
or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to
their own devices. Experience tells me that such people do not let other
people alone. They most certainly do want other people to agree with
them, they will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way
given half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see
it right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Tell us about your 'experience' that contradicts Christian beliefs.
I have not ever experienced anything that indicates that there is any
sort of sky fairy. I do not know anyone who has had such an
experience. I am told by those who profess a belief in a sky fairy that
it's a matter of faith. That's my experience that contradicts the
belief in a sky fairy, whether of a Jewish, Christian or Islamic flavour.
So your argument is that your lack of experience disproves the existence
of a 'sky fairy'.

Well gee, I have no experienced space travel. I don't know anyone who
has. I am told by some that the whole moon trip thing was done in Hollywood.

Stupid twonk.
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
What were your whereabouts in zero BC?
Stupid twonk.
You really are a stupid, lying fuckwit, Foster.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:06:16 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the
congregation during prayers that they should not take part in
anything to do with Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their
rituals is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not
become a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is
the *same* as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity,
which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah
than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or
committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might
also indicate what specifically offended you.
Live and let live. Unless they try to make it compulsory or it affects you
That's like saying that flat-earthers, or people that think the sun
revolves around the earth, or people who object to blood transfusions,
or abortion, or believe in a flavour of sky fairy, should be left to
their own devices. Experience tells me that such people do not let other
people alone. They most certainly do want other people to agree with
them, they will insist on it, and they will use force to have their way
given half a chance. We have seen it many times in the past, and we see
it right now. People don't change. In my view, people who hold to
views about the real world that are manifestly incorrect should be
challenged, vigorously. Or treated for their delusions.
Tell us about your 'experience' that contradicts Christian beliefs.
I have not ever experienced anything that indicates that there is any
sort of sky fairy. I do not know anyone who has had such an
experience. I am told by those who profess a belief in a sky fairy that
it's a matter of faith. That's my experience that contradicts the
belief in a sky fairy, whether of a Jewish, Christian or Islamic flavour.
So your argument is that your lack of experience disproves the existence
of a 'sky fairy'.
No. I answered your query.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Well gee, I have no experienced space travel. I don't know anyone who has.
I am told by some that the whole moon trip thing was done in Hollywood.
And?
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Stupid twonk.
Yes, you are. Nothing new there.
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Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
What were your whereabouts in zero BC?
Stupid twonk.
You really are a stupid, lying fuckwit, Foster.
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 05:22:56 UTC
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Tell us about your 'experience' that contradicts Christian beliefs.
I have not ever experienced anything that indicates that there is any
sort of sky fairy. I do not know anyone who has had such an
experience. *I* *am* *told* by those who profess a belief in a sky fairy that
it's a matter of faith. That's my experience that contradicts the
belief in a sky fairy, whether of a Jewish, Christian or Islamic flavour.
So your argument is that your lack of experience disproves the
existence of a 'sky fairy'.
No. I answered your query.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Well gee, I have no experienced space travel. I don't know anyone who
has. I am told by some that the whole moon trip thing was done in Hollywood.
And?
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Stupid twonk.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFL!
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:26:10 UTC
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Tell us about your 'experience' that contradicts Christian beliefs.
I have not ever experienced anything that indicates that there is any
sort of sky fairy. I do not know anyone who has had such an
experience. *I* *am* *told* by those who profess a belief in a sky fairy that
it's a matter of faith. That's my experience that contradicts the
belief in a sky fairy, whether of a Jewish, Christian or Islamic flavour.
So your argument is that your lack of experience disproves the
existence of a 'sky fairy'.
No. I answered your query.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
Well gee, I have no experienced space travel. I don't know anyone who
has. I am told by some that the whole moon trip thing was done in Hollywood.
And?
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Stupid twonk.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROTFL!
PY?
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-02 23:50:04 UTC
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I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
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Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim by
'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of a
sky fairy'.

That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.

You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?

At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:06:09 UTC
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I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim by
'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of a sky
fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to Muslims
as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by your remarks
as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:07:40 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim by
'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of a sky
fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Fine and you have that right, a right that you should extend to others
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:21:32 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim by
'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of a
sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Fine and you have that right, a right that you should extend to others
It's not a right I have. It's a relationship to reality. It doesn't vary
with my beliefs.

You only have to look around to see the imposition of people's beliefs.
It's nothing new. What those nutters did in Paris not so long ago is
exactly the same as nutters do in the US to an abortion clinic. And nutters
have done and will do here when their cages are rattled. It's nothing like
live and let live. And it's not getting better. For a current, if trivial,
example, there are some nutters around who believe that forcing ISPs and
Telcos to retain metadata and phone calls will do something or other to help
the community. It's utter bullshit, but it's being given credence as if it
were true. There is no difference between belief in the reality of a sky
fairy (with all that implies) and belief in the utility of metadata/phone
calls (with all that implies). Fundamentally, it's a reliance on a belief
rather than facts. People who have beliefs that they want to enforce must
be challenged. They are challenged with reality, not with a pat on the
head. Follow?
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:25:46 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim by
'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of a
sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Fine and you have that right, a right that you should extend to others
It's not a right I have. It's a relationship to reality. It doesn't vary
with my beliefs.
Your reality, maybe not others.
Post by Pelican
You only have to look around to see the imposition of people's beliefs.
It's nothing new. What those nutters did in Paris not so long ago is
exactly the same as nutters do in the US to an abortion clinic. And
nutters have done and will do here when their cages are rattled. It's
nothing like live and let live. And it's not getting better. For a
current, if trivial, example, there are some nutters around who believe
that forcing ISPs and Telcos to retain metadata and phone calls will do
something or other to help the community. It's utter bullshit, but it's
being given credence as if it were true. There is no difference between
belief in the reality of a sky fairy (with all that implies) and belief in
the utility of metadata/phone calls (with all that implies).
Fundamentally, it's a reliance on a belief rather than facts. People who
have beliefs that they want to enforce must be challenged. They are
challenged with reality, not with a pat on the head. Follow?
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:31:12 UTC
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I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a
baby
from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Fine and you have that right, a right that you should extend to others
It's not a right I have. It's a relationship to reality. It doesn't
vary with my beliefs.
Your reality, maybe not others.
Post by Pelican
You only have to look around to see the imposition of people's beliefs.
It's nothing new. What those nutters did in Paris not so long ago is
exactly the same as nutters do in the US to an abortion clinic. And
nutters have done and will do here when their cages are rattled. It's
nothing like live and let live. And it's not getting better. For a
current, if trivial, example, there are some nutters around who believe
that forcing ISPs and Telcos to retain metadata and phone calls will do
something or other to help the community. It's utter bullshit, but it's
being given credence as if it were true. There is no difference between
belief in the reality of a sky fairy (with all that implies) and belief
in the utility of metadata/phone calls (with all that implies).
Fundamentally, it's a reliance on a belief rather than facts. People who
have beliefs that they want to enforce must be challenged. They are
challenged with reality, not with a pat on the head. Follow?
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share. There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
dechucka
2015-03-03 00:36:11 UTC
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Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then anyone
elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one defines reality of
course
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of those
who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs at the
opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
Pelican
2015-03-03 00:50:48 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then anyone
elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one defines reality
of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of those
who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs at
the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and having
a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
dechucka
2015-03-03 01:12:44 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then anyone
elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one defines reality
of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of those
who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs at
the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
dechucka
2015-03-03 01:13:55 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one defines
reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of those
who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs at
the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
And I should of added effects nobody
Pelican
2015-03-03 01:42:24 UTC
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Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try
to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs
at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
And I should of added effects nobody
No such individual.
Pelican
2015-03-03 01:41:45 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try to
enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one defines
reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of those
who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs at
the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
dechucka
2015-03-03 01:57:33 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try
to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we all
share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs
at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Pelican
2015-03-03 02:05:45 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try
to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we
all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs
at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
dechucka
2015-03-03 02:19:31 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't try
to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we
all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their eggs
at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
why did you do it?
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:14:30 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't
try to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we
all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their
eggs at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy and
having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
why did you do it?
What?
dechucka
2015-03-03 05:28:46 UTC
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Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't
try to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence we
all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their
eggs at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy
and having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the
other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
why did you do it?
What?
insult tree worshippers by calling them nutters? I know that we have
diiferent realities but I cannot see 'nutter' being a term of enderment or
even neutral
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:42:16 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't
try to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence
we all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different then
anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how one
defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs of
those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their
eggs at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy
and having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the
other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
why did you do it?
What?
insult tree worshippers by calling them nutters? I know that we have
diiferent realities but I cannot see 'nutter' being a term of enderment or
even neutral
So, do tell me. What do you call a person who worships a tree? Hmmm?
dechucka
2015-03-03 05:45:09 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However don't
try to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence
we all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different
then anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on how
one defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs
of those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their
eggs at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy
and having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the
other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
why did you do it?
What?
insult tree worshippers by calling them nutters? I know that we have
diiferent realities but I cannot see 'nutter' being a term of enderment
or even neutral
So, do tell me. What do you call a person who worships a tree? Hmmm?
dendrolatrites or druids maybe
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:52:13 UTC
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Totally agree the operative word being 'enforce'. However
don't try to enforce your 'reality' either
I don't have an idiosyncratic reality. It's the same existence
we all share.
So you are the one in step? My reality is certainly different
then anyone elses as I am an individual. Totally dependent on
how one defines reality of course
No.
Post by dechucka
Post by Pelican
There is nothing to enforce. I don't have to share the beliefs
of those who prefer a different world.
Exactly but insulting or hating someone because they crack their
eggs at the opposite end to you is ridiculous and illogical IMO.
There is a categorical difference between a belief in a sky fairy
and having a practice of cracking a boiled egg at one end or the
other.
Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the
individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
why did you do it?
What?
insult tree worshippers by calling them nutters? I know that we have
diiferent realities but I cannot see 'nutter' being a term of enderment
or even neutral
So, do tell me. What do you call a person who worships a tree? Hmmm?
dendrolatrites or druids maybe
All the major monotheistic religions regard them as deluded, for over 2,000
years.

Fast-forward to 2015, and answer the question.

Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 03:08:24 UTC
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Is there? It is a belief not founded in fact but important to the individual
You are welcome to offer prayers to whichever tree takes your fancy.
Thankyou but please don't abuse me for doing so
Why would I abuse a nutter who is so stupid as to believe in a tree god?
*His* tree god is a figment of *your* imagination.

Dear oh dear, you seem to have shot yourself in the foot.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 02:53:38 UTC
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I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own
condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.

EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?

You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:17:58 UTC
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I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.
EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?
You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
If I have offended anyone, anyone at all, they can go and fuck themselves
comprehensively. Anyone who is offended by anything they read on Usenet
needs a reality check.
dechucka
2015-03-03 05:30:19 UTC
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Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.
EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?
You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
If I have offended anyone, anyone at all, they can go and fuck themselves
comprehensively. Anyone who is offended by anything they read on Usenet
needs a reality check.
Whose reality?
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:44:59 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a
baby
from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.
EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?
You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
If I have offended anyone, anyone at all, they can go and fuck themselves
comprehensively. Anyone who is offended by anything they read on Usenet
needs a reality check.
Whose reality?
Are you offended by what you read on Usenet? If the answer is "yes", It's
not your reality. If the answer is "no", WTF did you ask the question?
dechucka
2015-03-03 05:47:08 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a
baby
from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.
EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?
You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
If I have offended anyone, anyone at all, they can go and fuck
themselves comprehensively. Anyone who is offended by anything they
read on Usenet needs a reality check.
Whose reality?
Are you offended by what you read on Usenet? If the answer is "yes", It's
not your reality. If the answer is "no", WTF did you ask the question?
because I'm not everyone
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-03 05:38:28 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.
EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?
You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
If I have offended anyone, anyone at all, they can go and fuck
themselves comprehensively. Anyone who is offended by anything they
read on Usenet needs a reality check.
You offended the OP, obviously calling Mary a 'trollop'.

You offend any intelligent person with your assertion that Mary made
claims about the son of God. Did you pull that from your bum?

You are grossly ignorant about the evidence of Christ's journey and
existence yet you are quite prepared to rubbish it.

In short, you're a moron.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:49:25 UTC
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Post by Pelican
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a
baby
from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
...
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
Stupid twonk. You claimed that the Immaculate conception was a claim
by 'some trollop' and the mother claimed that the baby was the 'son of
a sky fairy'.
That is not only grossly offensive, not only to Christians also to
Muslims as the OP pointed out. In fact, atheists would be offended by
your remarks as any decent person would be.
You're factually incorrect as well. Anyone heard of the 'Book of Mary'?
At best you're just a thick troll. Probably just thick.
I don't believe in fairy stories.
Mary (whom you refer to as 'the trollop') never claimed anything, you
thick moron.
EVER HEARD OF 'THE BOOK OF MARY'?
You need to apologise to people that you have offended.
If I have offended anyone, anyone at all, they can go and fuck
themselves comprehensively. Anyone who is offended by anything they
read on Usenet needs a reality check.
You offended the OP, obviously calling Mary a 'trollop'.
You offend any intelligent person with your assertion that Mary made
claims about the son of God. Did you pull that from your bum?
You are grossly ignorant about the evidence of Christ's journey and
existence yet you are quite prepared to rubbish it.
I made no comments about Christ's journey or existence. As usual, Foster,
you are a stupid, lying fuckwit.
Post by Abominable Liar Party
In short, I'm a moron.
Beyond doubt.
geopelia
2015-03-03 02:24:02 UTC
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"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations
of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
[However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the *same* as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.

...........
I thought it was you who wrote the piece "I support that fatwa" (above.)
That was extremely offensive to both Christians and Moslems.
And Catholics would be appalled.

If it wasn't you please accept my apologies. I can get lost sometimes as to
who wrote what.
..............
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
............
Everybody enjoying the celebration but leaving out the religious side.
Easter seems to be going the same way.
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:20:08 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Post by Abominable Liar Party
"THE Lakemba Mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning
followers it is a 'sin' to even wish people a Merry Christmas.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation
during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with
Christmas.
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the
foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding
others in esteem. [However] The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn
Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals
is forbidden, and if a 'Muslim who says this does not become a
disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the *same* as
congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a greater
sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than congratulating him
for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or committing fornication or
adultery'".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
I support that fatwa. Every religion should issue its own condemnation of
it. It's a commercial event pretending to have something to do with an
alleged occurrence 2,000 years ago when some trollop produced a baby from a
father who was not her husband. She claimed it was a miracle conception,
and the baby was the son of a sky fairy. Pull the other one.
..............
Don't mock any religion. You never know, perhaps there really is a God.
And to insult Mary and Jesus will offend Moslems as well as Christians.
Both are mentioned in the Koran.
I feel free to mock anyone who holds views that are contradicted by
experience.
......
Fair enough, but you shouldn't be so offensive about it.
Please indicate the way in which I have been offensive. You might also
indicate what specifically offended you.
...........
I thought it was you who wrote the piece "I support that fatwa" (above.)
That was extremely offensive to both Christians and Moslems.
What about Jews? I would be disappointed if Jews were not extremely
offended in the same way as Christians and Moslems.
Post by Pelican
And Catholics would be appalled.
If it wasn't you please accept my apologies. I can get lost sometimes as
to who wrote what.
..............
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
But Christmas is now a secular celebration anyway, for most people.
What does "secular celebration" mean in describing Christmas?
............
Everybody enjoying the celebration but leaving out the religious side.
Easter seems to be going the same way.
Byker
2015-03-01 23:44:00 UTC
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What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...


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2015-03-01 23:58:16 UTC
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U.S. suggests burying them at sea like Osama bin Laden,
I find it ironic that he was killed by seals and ended up with the seals
Petzl
2015-03-02 00:50:45 UTC
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Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
In WWII Jews did not fight back because the “Sonderkommandos” (who
were conscripted Jews) convinced other Jews they were going to be
looked after in camps by the nice peaceful Nazi people!
Australia the same is happening
Comparison between today’s Islamic sympathisers and WW2 Jewish death
camps.

Petzl
--
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions, the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Abominable Liar Party
2015-03-02 00:57:15 UTC
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Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out.
Over the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim
countries have refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in
Iraq but identified as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because
Muslim custom encourages respect for the dead and prompt burial. The
families of these dead ISIS members want to bury them but their
governments do not want to show any respect to ISIS at all. Some Western
nations have revoked the citizenship of men and women who were
identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have anything to do with the
deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be responsible for the
burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine for current or
future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at sea like
Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps
getting worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
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Someone's not thinking.

Set aside an island in the Mediterranean, call it 'Paradise' and
populate it with 63 succulent virgin pigs. Send the bodies there.

Not true Muslim sheikh would object to this as they have all publically
'condemned' ISIS as indulging in unislamic behaviour.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
abelard
2015-03-02 11:18:29 UTC
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Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
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Petzl
2015-03-02 11:26:25 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
Yep Moslem bodies will be quickly cleaned up by dung beetles.
--
Petzl
For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the worlds refugees!
Time to address the fact the problem is Islam.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy. Not confirmation of their delusions and as refugees made leave their delusions where they created them.
Fleeing from what they created!
The ONLY Nations mistakenly welcoming Moslems have a Christian history, not a Sharia history
dechucka
2015-03-02 21:32:06 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
Yep Moslem bodies will be quickly cleaned up by dung beetles.
you do a great job
Pelican
2015-03-02 21:44:26 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
Yep Moslem bodies will be quickly cleaned up by dung beetles.
you do a great job
Why gratuitously insult dung beetles?
geopelia
2015-03-03 02:50:00 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
Yep Moslem bodies will be quickly cleaned up by dung beetles.
you do a great job
Why gratuitously insult dung beetles?
................

Dung beetles are only interested in dung, not dead bodies. They roll a small
ball of dung around.
The Egyptians viewed them as scarabs, with the dung ball representing the
sun.

For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24 :28
Eagles? or Vultures?
Petzl
2015-03-03 04:20:50 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
Yep Moslem bodies will be quickly cleaned up by dung beetles.
you do a great job
Why gratuitously insult dung beetles?
................
Dung beetles are only interested in dung, not dead bodies. They roll a small
ball of dung around.
WRONG they eat mushrooms, decaying leaves and fruit and the remains of
dead Moslems.
Post by Pelican
The Egyptians viewed them as scarabs, with the dung ball representing the
sun.
For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24 :28
Eagles? or Vultures?
Depends where you die and what's around
--
Petzl
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.
But it cannot survive treason from within.
An enemy at the gates is less formidable,for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely,
his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,heard
in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor;
he speaks in accents familiar to his victims,
and he wears their face
and their arguments,he appeals to the baseness
that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation,
he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of the city,
he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to fear.
The traitor is the plague.--Marcus Tullius Cicero
Pelican
2015-03-03 05:24:04 UTC
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Post by Pelican
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
Yep Moslem bodies will be quickly cleaned up by dung beetles.
you do a great job
Why gratuitously insult dung beetles?
................
Dung beetles are only interested in dung, not dead bodies. They roll a
small ball of dung around.
The Egyptians viewed them as scarabs, with the dung ball representing the
sun.
For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24 :28
Eagles? or Vultures?
That one line post to which I responded was praising, in a fashion, the
poster who calls himself Petzl. Petzl is an incorrigible nutter. You
should understand the context of the comments, which was the insulting of
Petzl. Richly deserved, I might add.
Petzl
2015-03-03 05:41:55 UTC
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:24:04 +1100, "Pelican"
Post by Pelican
Post by Pelican
Why gratuitously insult dung beetles?
................
Dung beetles are only interested in dung, not dead bodies. They roll a
small ball of dung around.
The Egyptians viewed them as scarabs, with the dung ball representing the
sun.
For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24 :28
Eagles? or Vultures?
That one line post to which I responded was praising, in a fashion, the
poster who calls himself Petzl. Petzl is an incorrigible nutter. You
should understand the context of the comments, which was the insulting of
Petzl. Richly deserved, I might add.
You call a lot of people "nutters"?
Look at yourself at all?
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
dechucka
2015-03-02 21:31:53 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
you do a great job
Pelican
2015-03-02 21:43:30 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
What could be worse? Dead foreign ISIS members, as Iraq is finding out. Over
the last few months a growing number of Western and Muslim countries have
refused to accept the bodies of ISIS militants killed in Iraq but identified
as foreigners. This is a delicate matter because Muslim custom encourages
respect for the dead and prompt burial. The families of these dead ISIS
members want to bury them but their governments do not want to show any
respect to ISIS at all. Some Western nations have revoked the citizenship of
men and women who were identified as dying for ISIS and refuse to have
anything to do with the deceased ex-citizens. Iraq does not want to be
responsible for the burial of these creatures as it would create a shrine
for current or future Islamic terrorists. The U.S. suggests burying them at
sea like Osama bin Laden, with the proper Islamic prayers and a cleric in
attendance. This may be the best solution to a problem that keeps getting
worse as unwanted corpses continue to pile up...
the vultures and maggots will clear up the remains as they've
done for millennia
you do a great job
Credit where credit is due.
dechucka
2015-03-01 21:10:53 UTC
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Post by Abominable Liar Party
1. Is it permissible to support IS?
Read Sheik Abdullah bin Bayyah's fatwa on the issue, you claim fatwa's are
binding so you can now stop making an arse of yourself
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